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[ImWithStupid]

Voter fraud alert: Houseful of out-of-state Obama activists registered as Ohio voters, received absentee ballots

 

By Michelle Malkin • October 15, 2008 04:09 AM

 

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I strongly recommend that the Ohio Republican Party get on the case before it’s too late. Today’s the last day to challenge voters who registered early in Ohio before the run up to Election Day Here’s the stench: An entire houseful of young, non-Ohioan Democrat activists have used the Brownlee Avenue address to register themselves to vote in the Buckeye State and secure absentee ballots under extremely shady circumstances — all while mobilizing a large effort to register thousands of others for absentee and early voting.

 

The activists are leaders of a group called “Vote From Home ‘08.” The group is self-identified as having “extensive experience with political organizing, election administration, and Democratic politics.” They were hailed as the “Justice League” by a Daily Kos blogger. Their Facebook page brags: “Want to turn the Presidential election blue in a key swing state? Vote from Home is a political organization that was founded by a team of young people for the purpose of assisting, aiding, and tracking voters to elect progressive candidates to the White House. Encouraged by the excitement of the 2008 elections and the movement around the Democratic candidates, Vote From Home will be in Ohio seeking to deliver 10,000 votes to Democratic candidates statewide.”

 

My friends at Palestra.net, a network of young reporters who have been doing the voter and registration fraud reporting that the MSM has been slow to do, have a breaking investigative report on how several members of the Democrat Vote From Home team — all Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright, and Truman Scholars studying abroad — are turning up on Franklin County voter rolls despite having no bona fide residence in Ohio and admittedly having little to no knowledge about the state before descending on it in August to sign up other new voters in a rush to put 10,000 Obama supporters on the rolls.

Michelle Malkin Voter fraud alert: Houseful of out-of-state Obama activists registered as Ohio voters, received absentee ballots

[phreakwars]

Still haven't proven registration = vote.

 

Sorry, epic fail.

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[ImWithStupid]

Still haven't proven registration = vote.

 

Sorry, epic fail.

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Sorry. I forgot about that horrible affliction liberals have with being able to see what's spelled out right in front of them, but see things like Bush planning 9/11, Bush creating hurricane Katrina, and the Republicans stealing the 2000 and 2004 elections. Which have about as much credibility as man made global warming.

[ImWithStupid]

Just because one guy is saying something about getting rid of assault weapons yet again, doesn't mean it will happen, you have way too many right leaning DEMOCRATS in office that will never let that fly.

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Why not? It happened the last time we had a Democratically controlled Congress and White House, which also happened under the Clinton administration just like that lax in Military funding, cut and run mentality like that in Somalia which led them to claim the day we left as a national holiday as when they drove the Americans out of their country, and the breakdown of the intelligence community. Wow. I guess history does repeat itself. Usually doesn't happen this fast though.

 

Then again, with a cabinet full of Clinton's people what do you expect.

 

Worse than the Assault weapons ban would be Obama's buddy Rep. Boddy Rush from Chicago Illinois, (one of the the people he's never gone against before) idea of firearms legislation.

 

January 16, 2009

 

First guncontrol bill of 2009 HR45 federal Gun registration

 

Filed under: Gun Control � admin @ 11:22 am

Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (HR45 Introduced in House)

Full text here.

(a) Findings- Congress finds that–

(1) the manufacture, distribution, and importation of firearms is inherently commercial in nature;

(2) firearms regularly move in interstate commerce;

(3) to the extent that firearms trafficking is intrastate in nature, it arises out of and is substantially connected with a commercial transaction, which, when viewed in the aggregate, substantially affects interstate commerce;

(4) because the intrastate and interstate trafficking of firearms are so commingled, full regulation of interstate commerce requires the incidental regulation of intrastate commerce;

(5) gun violence in the United States is associated with the majority of homicides, over half the suicides, and two-thirds of non-fatal violent injuries; and

(6) on the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting.

(b) Sense of the Congress- It is the sense of the Congress that–

(1) firearms trafficking is prevalent and widespread in and among the States, and it is usually impossible to distinguish between intrastate trafficking and interstate trafficking; and

(2) it is in the national interest and within the role of the Federal Government to ensure that the regulation of firearms is uniform among the States, that law enforcement can quickly and effectively trace firearms used in crime, and that firearms owners know how to use and safely store their firearms.

© Purposes- The purposes of this Act and the amendments made by this Act are–

(1) to protect the public against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of qualifying firearms to criminals and youth;

(2) to ensure that owners of qualifying firearms are knowledgeable in the safe use, handling, and storage of those firearms;

(3) to restrict the availability of qualifying firearms to criminals, youth, and other persons prohibited by Federal law from receiving firearms; and

(4) to facilitate the tracing of qualifying firearms used in crime by Federal and State law enforcement agencies.

You see congress can not regulate anything but interstate commerce so they just declare the guns in our homes interstate commerce and now they can require them to be licensed.

`(aa) Firearm Licensing Requirement-

`(1) IN GENERAL- It shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to possess a qualifying firearm on or after the applicable date, unless that person has been issued a firearm license–

(a) In General- In order to be issued a firearm license under this title, an individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under subsection (b)) an application, which shall include–

(1) a current, passport-sized photograph of the applicant that provides a clear, accurate likeness of the applicant;

(2) the name, address, and date and place of birth of the applicant;

(3) any other name that the applicant has ever used or by which the applicant has ever been known;

(4) a clear thumb print of the applicant, which shall be made when, and in the presence of the entity to whom, the application is submitted;

(5) with respect to each category of person prohibited by Federal law, or by the law of the State of residence of the applicant, from obtaining a firearm, a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited from obtaining a firearm;

(6) a certification by the applicant that the applicant will keep any firearm owned by the applicant safely stored and out of the possession of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;

(7) a certificate attesting to the completion at the time of application of a written firearms examination, which shall test the knowledge and ability of the applicant regarding–

(A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;

(B) the safe handling of firearms;

© the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use;

(D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and

(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

(8) an authorization by the applicant to release to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant;

(9) the date on which the application was submitted; and

(10) the signature of the applicant.

So you have to apply to the new Obama anti gun att general to get permission to keep your gun.

So much for Obama not being anti gun Hu. I don’t see Obama saying he won’t pass this new democrat party bill.

This law is unconstitutional because guns in our homes are not interstate commerce 1 and 2 even if they were it violates your 2nd amendment right to have a gun if you can not pass the permit rules not to mention the huge fees they will charge to prevent you from applying.

SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.

(a) Submission of Sale or Transfer Reports- Not later than 14 days after the date on which the transfer of qualifying firearm is processed by a licensed dealer under section 922(bb) of title 18, United States Code (as added by section 201 of this Act), the licensed dealer shall submit to the Attorney General (or, in the case of a licensed dealer located in a State that has a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of this Act, to the head of the State agency that administers that system) a report of that transfer, which shall include information relating to–

(1) the manufacturer of the firearm;

(2) the model name or number of the firearm;

(3) the serial number of the firearm;

(4) the date on which the firearm was received by the transferee;

(5) the number of a valid firearm license issued to the transferee under title I of this Act; and

(6) the name and address of the individual who transferred the firearm to the transferee.

(b) Federal Record of Sale System- Not later than 9 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall establish and maintain a Federal record of sale system, which shall include the information included in each report submitted to the Attorney General under subsection (a).

© Elimination of Prohibition on Establishment of System of Registration- Section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the second sentence.

So just to make it worse the bill creates a national firearm database of all guns to be stored with the Attorney General.

 

http://www.guncontrolkills.com/351/guncontrol/first-guncontrol-bill-of-2009-hr45-federal-gun-registration/

 

 

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

 

 

No fear, no propaganda. Firearms registration laws have historically, every time, been the first step, whether meant to or not, to firearms confiscation.

[ImWithStupid]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L3kMuN8sjk]YouTube - Criminals For Gun Control part 1 Home Invasion[/ame]

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCezcAHXxRY&feature=related]YouTube - Criminals For Gun Control Part 2 - Carjacking[/ame]

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR47t0Qav10&feature=related]YouTube - Barack, Biden, and Bans On Guns[/ame]

 

Obama is for local bans on guns, registering firearms, and limiting the number of guns a person can purchase, wants to ban assault weapons, but claims to be pro Second Amendment.

 

Sorry, it's impossible to be both.

[phreakwars]

Jesus, does it ALWAYS have to be fear and paranoia with Conservative types?

 

"WELL IT HAPPENED BEFORE, AND SO YADDA YADDA YADDA"

 

What's with always ASSUMING one administration is gonna be the same as the next?

 

Again, you have way to many moderate Democrats who WON'T support a ban. In fact, you have plenty of them who are pissed off about it screaming about these LIBERAL types always trying to run interference on true Democrats.

 

I mean hell, what did you last post? I bunch of worn out stats that don't mean JACK or are relevant to the HERE AND NOW issue. Then proclaim... WELL Blair Holt says this and this...

 

WHO CARES... Blair Holt doesn't run congress.

Case in point, the King George/Republican plan for our social security.. Did people automatically assume that ALL Republicans thought this was a great idea? NO that wasn't the case. And you didn't have "FEAR AND PARANOIA" with people going "THE REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA DO THIS AND THIS AND THAT NOW". No, it wasn't like that at all. If anything, it was debated and deemed a very stupid idea. And subsequently tossed in the trash (thank god).

 

I'm gonna have to keep notes on all the fear and paranoia so I can look back to the nay sayers and say "WHERE ARE THE GUNS THAT WERE TAKEN, WHERE IS THE DEPRESSION, WHERE ARE THE HIGHER TAXES YOUR PAYING, WHERE IS THE SOCIALISM, WHERE IS THAT TERRORIST ATTACK YOU WERE SO CONVINCED WE WERE GONNA HAVE".

 

Come on now, reality check, the world isn't like that, and yes, even those so called evil politicians aren't like that. In general, every time you get some blow hard in the media who proclaims he knows how things are gonna end up, they end up being more wrong about it then the guy who takes a chance and is optimistic. Don't care if they are Liberal or Conservative.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpYHL5wvD1A]YouTube - How Wrong are TV Pundits?[/ame]

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[ImWithStupid]

Then explain to me what happened in 1993 when the Democratic controlled Congress and the Democratic President, who by the way wasn't as anti-gun as the current administration, passed and enforced the Clinton Assault Weapons ban.

 

I guess that was just fear and paranoia, and didn't really happen either.

[phreakwars]

That was 1993, this is 2009. some things DO change.

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[ImWithStupid]

That was 1993, this is 2009. some things DO change.

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Many things don't.

 

In 2004 the same people were pissed the Bush didn't extend this law.

 

Democrats Push G.O.P. On Extending Weapons Ban

 

Published: May 15, 2003

 

 

Democrats challenged President Bush today to overcome resistance in his party to extending an assault weapons ban due to expire next year.

''If the bill dies, we will lay it at the president's doorstep,'' Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said a day after the House majority leader, Tom DeLay, told reporters that the 1994 law banning the manufacture of 19 types of common military-style assault weapons would not be renewed.

Senator Schumer said the gun bill would be an issue in the 2004 election, a development that could pose problems for Democrats who represent districts with strong sentiments for gun rights.

Democrats Push G.O.P. On Extending Weapons Ban - New York Times

 

Chuck Schumer hasn't backed down nor has many other of Obama's Liberal Democratic buddies. This is the least of the worries...

 

Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Urban Policy

 

Some things get worse. Translation, outlaw assault weapons and make it so all guns must be registered.

[phreakwars]

Well, I guess were gonna have to see who's right here... being a Democrat myself, I'm not worried one bit.

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[phreakwars]

TheHill.com - Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban

 

There are things much more important to contend with in America then guns.

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[RegisteredAndEducated]

TheHill.com - Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban

 

There are things much more important to contend with in America then guns.

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it's a slippery slope. There is nothing we should worry about more than guns. Except maybe free speech. And censorship like the "fairness doctrine" or whatever name they're trying to give it nowadays.