More Global warming lies not to believe in

[phreakwars]

Antarctica is heating up fast, a Kansas researcher and other scientists warn - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee

 

Keep telling yourself it's not happening, maybe if you repeat it enough it will be true?

 

Damn lying liberals.

 

Crazy people, it even snowed during the stupid global warming summit, the world is NOT warming.

 

LIES, ALL LIES !!

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[hugo]

Guess what? It is gonna continue to warm with global warming agreements that exclude China and India from any responsibility. Do you think we should impose heavy economic strife on American producers while the Chinks continue to steal American jobs?

[phreakwars]

Guess what? It is gonna continue to warm with global warming agreements that exclude China and India from any responsibility. Do you think we should impose heavy economic strife on American producers while the Chinks continue to steal American jobs?

Your solution?

 

How about we just open our arms for the rapture already, and make a few bucks in the mean time?

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[ImWithStupid]

How about proving that it's man made before ruining the economies of western civilization?

[hugo]

Your solution?

 

How about we just open our arms for the rapture already, and make a few bucks in the mean time?

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The fact is we cannot stop global warming without China and India sharing resposibility. Otherwise global warming continues and the trade deficits and the US unemployment rate grows.

[phreakwars]

The fact is we cannot stop global warming without China and India sharing resposibility. Otherwise global warming continues and the trade deficits and the US unemployment rate grows.

Yes, I understand that, the question was, what would be YOUR solution?

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[phreakwars]

How about proving that it's man made before ruining the economies of western civilization?

Does it even matter if it's man made or not? Surely you can agree if it is happening, efforts must be made to deal with it if it's gonna happen quicker then once thought.

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[ImWithStupid]

Does it even matter if it's man made or not? Surely you can agree if it is happening, efforts must be made to deal with it if it's gonna happen quicker then once thought.

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Yea, it matters. If it's a natural Earth/Sun cycle based on lack of sun spots like many astrophysicists and climatologist suggest, then all the trillions of dollars would be a waste.

[snafu]

I'm sure man made emissions can't be helping but I think it is part of earths cycle that can't be stopped. And hugo has a point about China and Russia. We can't clean up the air by ourselves.

 

 

Global Warming and Ozone Depletion

[ImWithStupid]

Ask yourself this. Why won't Al Gore debate "climate change" with any dissenting scientists?

 

He's been challenged by several and has even been challenged by the President of the Czech Republic, but he refuses.

 

Maybe it's because he owns a company that trades in "carbon credits" and just like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson if people stop supporting his cause, he loses money.

 

It's hard to trust someone who has such a large financial interest in keeping the fear/paranoia alive. Especially after so much of his so called "proof" has been shown to be manipulated or flat out lies.

[hugo]

Yes, I understand that, the question was, what would be YOUR solution?

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The solution is to tell the Chinks and Injuns we will cut off trade unless they agree to the same CO2 release standards that we do.

[snafu]

Just throwing out.

 

 

Kofi Annan today slammed global warming skeptics as being "out of step" and "out of time," but how will altering human activity halt climate change when the evidence clearly indicates that the sun itself and not SUV's is heating up the entire solar system?

 

 

SUV's On Jupiter?

[ImWithStupid]

Just throwing out.

 

 

 

 

SUV's On Jupiter?

 

 

I've been saying there's as much evidence about solar cycles as anything else for years.

 

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

 

Kate Ravilious

for National Geographic News

 

February 28, 2007

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural?and not a human-induced?cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

 

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Solar Cycles

Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.

Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.

"Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said.

By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars.

Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

[eddo]

I've been saying there's as much evidence about solar cycles as anything else for years.

 

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

 

you dumba$$, that's the republicans fault too.

 

 

 

geeze...

[Old Salt]

Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.

Heretic!!!!!

 

Burn him at the stake!!!! (Oh, wait.... That would contribute to greenhouse gases. :o)

[hugo]

If the left would allow the US to build nuclear power plants that would sure help reduce CO2 emissions.

[hugo]

2008: Another Grim Year for the Global Warmers

By Michael R. Fox Ph.D., 1/2/2009 10:45:23 AM

The year 2008 marked the tenth consecutive year of no global warming. This is not widely reported or known. In fact the Earth has been cooling for the last 6 years.

 

Richard Lindzen

 

A profound analysis of the global warming issues including huge political issues was written and presented in August this year by Dr. Richard Lindzen, climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). (Climate Science by Richard Lindzen - EcoWorld). He asks two very important questions:

 

 

1. Has the global warming alarm become the goal itself, instead of the result of scientific research?

 

2. Is climate science really designed to answer questions or promote political goals?

Too often we witness climate alarmism being promoted while solid science is ignored, misrepresented, or downplayed. This makes great fodder for scary movies, scary news articles, and scary documentaries, but it is still bad science.

 

We also note that the nearly $5 billion/year being spent on global warming research is buying a lot of name-calling, ad hominem attacks, and all around nastiness by many of the indentured recipients of that money.

 

Such behavior certainly is not scientific. In fact it inhibits the progress of science, and the intelligent formulations of science and energy policies. If half the participants are ignored by the science journals, insulted with ad hominem attacks by the promoters, and ignored and dismissed by the media, then the simple and rational scientific processes are stopped.

 

Lindzen describes the origins of global warming alarm, the political agenda of the alarmists, their intimidation tactics, and the reasons for their success. Also, in painstaking detail, he debunks their key scientific claims and counterclaims. This Lindzen paper, although quite lengthy, is must reading for all decision makers, energy policy makers, and their staffs. Of course it would also help if the entire US population and the media read it as well, to help them understand the unscientific political processes taking place right before their eyes.

 

Les Kinsolving

 

Writer Kinsolving reports more of the bad news (Al Gore: The real Flat Earther ). As Dr. David Gee at the University of Uppsala Sweden asks "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?"---Geologist Dr. David Gee, chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress, has authored 130-plus peer-reviewed papers, and currently is at Uppsala University of Sweden. As if this weren?t bad enough, the list of credentialed skeptics is growing by leaps and bounds.

 

Kinsolving provides a number of other important quotations from the scientists who don?t accept the dogma of man-made global warming:

 

 

1. "I am a skeptic. ... Global warming has become a new religion." ? Nobel Prize winner for physics Ivar Giaever.

 

2. "Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time." ? Solar physicist Dr. Pal Brekke, senior adviser to the Norwegian Space Centre in Ohio.

 

3. "It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." ? U.S. government atmospheric scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

 

4. "After reading (U.N. IPCC Chairman) Pachauri's asinine comment (comparing skeptics to) Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet." ? Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs.

 

5. "All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinkers and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead." ? Geophysicist Dr. Phil Chapman, an astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, serving as staff physicist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

 

6. "The (global warming) scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds." ? Award-winning paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

 

7. "Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the U.N.-IPCC. ... The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium ... which is why 'global warming' is now called 'climate change.'" ? Climatologist Dr. Richard Keen of the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at the University of Colorado.