snafu Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Gov. Sarah Palin is refusing to accept more than 30 percent of the federal economic stimulus money being offered to Alaska, including dollars for schools, energy assistance and social services The all-Republican Senate minority said that Palin is taking a wise course and it's important not to accept federal money that could end up costing the state in the long run. People would come to expect the programs and the state would have to pick up the tab to keep them going after the federal money ran out, said Palin and her allies. Palin rejects over 30% of stimulus money: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
RoyalOrleans Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Last I heard, Sonny Perdue is going to reject some, if not all, of the stimulus money. Never know with Sly Sonny! We'll see... Perdue: GA might turn down some stimulus money Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Ahhlee Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 I'll have to check what ND is doing. We've had an economic surplus so I'd like to hope we aren't looking for too many hand outs. Quote
eddo Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 I dunno abotu AZ. We have a Repub gov now, but man the old Gov left the stae in such a mess I don't know what to expect. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
RoyalOrleans Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 I dunno abotu AZ. We have a Repub gov now, but man the old Gov left the stae in such a mess I don't know what to expect. Are we talking Janet "From Another Planet" Napolitano? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
snafu Posted March 21, 2009 Author Posted March 21, 2009 These guys are taking some heat but I hope they stick to there guns on this. To hear Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell tell it, Palin's decision to refuse the money -- including $171.5 million for Alaska schools -- was more about calling timeout on a hasty spending process than flat-out rejecting the cash. "We want to have the public discussion on what do we do in two years when all of this money is gone," Parnell told reporters. Palin wants discussion on stimulus funds: Politics | adn.com Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
eddo Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 Are we talking Janet "From Another Planet" Napolitano? oh yeah. Napolitano couldn't balance a budget to save her life. It's no wonder Obama picked her... That's it Snaf. In 2 years this money will be gone. Who is gonna fund these new programs then? It's a very valid question, Good for Palin for thinking ahead for her state. I am curious though, as to why the other 70% is ok to take. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
phreakwars Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 The biggest single chunk of money that Palin is turning down is about $170 million for education, including money that would go for programs to help economically disadvantaged and special needs students.Isn't this the same broad who, during her campaign with McSame talked about special needs kids being oh so important and wanting to expand money for them (seeing how her own kid is retarded and all)? Now her excuse not to help them is some BS about "BIGGER GOVERNMENT"? Oh well... guess it's better to keep the Alaskans uneducated, you can get them to believe anything you want that way, just like Kentucky, Mississippi. Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and alot of the other red states... . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
snafu Posted March 22, 2009 Author Posted March 22, 2009 Isn't this the same broad who, during her campaign with McSame talked about special needs kids being oh so important and wanting to expand money for them (seeing how her own kid is retarded and all)? Now her excuse not to help them is some BS about "BIGGER GOVERNMENT"? Oh well... guess it's better to keep the Alaskans uneducated, you can get them to believe anything you want that way, just like Kentucky, Mississippi. Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and alot of the other red states... . . What part of stimulus don't you understand? Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
snafu Posted March 22, 2009 Author Posted March 22, 2009 Isn't this the same broad who, during her campaign with McSame talked about special needs kids being oh so important and wanting to expand money for them (seeing how her own kid is retarded and all)? Now her excuse not to help them is some BS about "BIGGER GOVERNMENT"? Oh well... guess it's better to keep the Alaskans uneducated, you can get them to believe anything you want that way, just like Kentucky, Mississippi. Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and alot of the other red states... . . Our education up here is just fine. She cut a pet project she loves but knows this should not be part of a STIMULUS PACKAGE! She also doesn't want the governmental bureaucracy that comes with the money. We need to take care of our own education and put in place a way to fund it for more than two years. We don't need the governmental sugar high. She will be a spokesperson for special needy children and education. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
RoyalOrleans Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Oh well... guess it's better to keep the Alaskans uneducated, you can get them to believe anything you want that way, just like Kentucky, Mississippi. Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and alot of the other red states... . . Lump Nebraska into that uneducated list of red states. 2008 Election Facts Issues of the Day: Economy- crash in stock market & home values; government bailouts and deficits;a loss of confidence in incompetent, greedy and/or criminal business leaders, politicians & regulators all contributing to a deep recession. Popular vote totals generally gathered from state Certificates of Ascertainment and/or results posted directly by individual states. McCain won Nebraska but Obama earned an electoral vote by winning the popular vote in the 2nd Congressional District. This marked the first time that Nebraska has split its electoral vote since it went to an allocated system in 1992. Obama received more votes than any candidate in history. The prior record, about 62 million votes, was set in 2004 by George W. Bush I guess that one electoral vote was from your district? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
phreakwars Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Nope, wish I could say it was. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
RoyalOrleans Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Nope, wish I could say it was. . . Your district is full of racists. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
RoyalOrleans Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 http://www.nmatv.com/video/1821/Governor-Palin-Rejects-12-of-Stimulus-Package Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
eddo Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Isn't this the same broad who, during her campaign with McSame talked about special needs kids being oh so important and wanting to expand money for them (seeing how her own kid is retarded and all)? Now her excuse not to help them is some BS about "BIGGER GOVERNMENT"? . So it's better to start a program that you have no idea how you are going to fund long term? Might want to pull your head out of Olberman's ass and talk a real look at why she turned it down. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
ImWithStupid Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Isn't this the same broad who, during her campaign with McSame talked about special needs kids being oh so important and wanting to expand money for them (seeing how her own kid is retarded and all)? Now her excuse not to help them is some BS about "BIGGER GOVERNMENT"? . . More liberal lies. Did you get this from Media Matters too. According to an April 2008 article in Education Week, Palin signed legislation in March 2008 that would increase public school funding considerably, including special needs funding. In particular, it would increase spending for certain special needs students that Alaska calls "intensive needs" (students with high-cost special requirements) from $26,900 per student in 2008 to $73,840 per student in 2011. That almost triples the per-student spending in three fiscal years. Palin's original proposal, according to the Anchorage Daily News, would have increased funds slightly more, giving intensive needs students a $77,740 allotment by 2011. Education Week: A second part of the measure raises spending for students with special needs [the intensive needs group] to $73,840 in fiscal 2011, from the current $26,900 per student in fiscal 2008, according to the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development. Unlike many other states, Alaska has relatively flush budget coffers, thanks to a rise in oil and gas revenues. Funding for schools will remain fairly level next year, however. Overall per-pupil funding across the state will rise by $100, to $5,480, in fiscal 2009. ... Carl Rose, the executive director of the Association of Alaska School Boards, praised the changes in funding for rural schools and students with special needs as a "historic event," and said the finance overhaul would bring more stability to district budgets. The issue is when the federal funding runs out in two years the state and local governments, who are already struggling, have to find a way to fund the programs. The same thing happened after Clinton's C.O.P.S program in the 90's. Departments hired extra officers under the grant and then two years later were either having hiring freezes when officers would retire not filling the position, pay freezes, tax increases or decreasing services. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Isn't this the same broad who, during her campaign with McSame talked about special needs kids being oh so important and wanting to expand money for them (seeing how her own kid is retarded and all)? Now her excuse not to help them is some BS about "BIGGER GOVERNMENT"? . . More liberal lies. Did you get this from Media Matters too. According to an April 2008 article in Education Week, Palin signed legislation in March 2008 that would increase public school funding considerably, including special needs funding. In particular, it would increase spending for certain special needs students that Alaska calls "intensive needs" (students with high-cost special requirements) from $26,900 per student in 2008 to $73,840 per student in 2011. That almost triples the per-student spending in three fiscal years. Palin's original proposal, according to the Anchorage Daily News, would have increased funds slightly more, giving intensive needs students a $77,740 allotment by 2011. Education Week: A second part of the measure raises spending for students with special needs [the intensive needs group] to $73,840 in fiscal 2011, from the current $26,900 per student in fiscal 2008, according to the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development. Unlike many other states, Alaska has relatively flush budget coffers, thanks to a rise in oil and gas revenues. Funding for schools will remain fairly level next year, however. Overall per-pupil funding across the state will rise by $100, to $5,480, in fiscal 2009. ... Carl Rose, the executive director of the Association of Alaska School Boards, praised the changes in funding for rural schools and students with special needs as a "historic event," and said the finance overhaul would bring more stability to district budgets. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html The issue is when the federal funding runs out in two years the state and local governments, who are already struggling, have to find a way to fund the programs. The same thing happened after Clinton's C.O.P.S program in the 90's. Departments hired extra officers under the grant and then two years later were either having hiring freezes when officers would retire not filling the position, pay freezes, tax increases or decreasing services. Quote
phreakwars Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Actually, no, I heard Palin repeat it over and over during the campaign. She'd say it as she was dragging her kid around like she actually cared. Nope, ain't gonna convince me otherwise, she's doing it for her own political ambitions. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
hugo Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Dumb broad; rips off the oil companies but won't take money from the feds. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
snafu Posted March 22, 2009 Author Posted March 22, 2009 Palin raised the notion of hiring more teachers, only to lay them off later. She also said some of the federal money has strings attached, such as the state having to adopt and police uniform building codes if it accepts energy efficiency money. Palin also mentioned the nation's multitrillion-dollar debt, saying, "We can't keep digging this hole." I think it is prudent of her to include the peoples idea's even if it means taking the money which I hope she dosn't. Protesters tell Palin take stimulus funds: Politics | adn.com Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
ImWithStupid Posted March 23, 2009 Posted March 23, 2009 Actually, no, I heard Palin repeat it over and over during the campaign. She'd say it as she was dragging her kid around like she actually cared. Nope, ain't gonna convince me otherwise, she's doing it for her own political ambitions. . . Sorry, I guess you watched way too, much MSDNC with Keith Olberman and didn't see that Palin already increased spending for special needs students before her child was born. Seriously though, aren't you sick of Kool-aid yet? Quote
snafu Posted March 23, 2009 Author Posted March 23, 2009 Actually, no, I heard Palin repeat it over and over during the campaign. She'd say it as she was dragging her kid around like she actually cared. Nope, ain't gonna convince me otherwise, she's doing it for her own political ambitions. . . Alaskan Natives are taken car of by the Alaskan Native Corp from contractual oil revenue and investments in that. They get free medical care in one of the most pristine and modern medical centers in America. The rest of the minorities have to deal with medical cost like the rest of America but we are a pretty rich state thanks to the people of Alaska to allow ourselves to open up our resources. We don't need the money but some states may. When Sarah was campaigning she was doing it for the country and not for a self sustained state. Big difference. 1 Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
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