Tea Party Anyone?

[ImWithStupid]

I already laid out the facts, you just don't want to accept them, you'd rather sneer them away and blame it on some sort of left wing agenda from news agency's.. OK whatever.. not that I have ever heard any of what I posted on any of the aforementioned sites, but believe what you want... oops, I mean what you have been programmed to.

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Nothing you showed, proved anything about anything.

 

Show were anything you posted relates to the tea parties that happened back in February.

 

You can't because you're drinking the Daily Kos, Media Matters, MSLSD, Kool-aid, that I've proven to be lies over and over again.

 

Keep drinking.

 

The stuff you posted links too was a bunch of nonsense and even was related to Ralph Nader.

 

Like he's a small government, low tax guy.

 

Hahahaha

[phreakwars]

Ah, I see, so even though all those URL came from strangely the exact same I.P. address, and are funnily enough registered to the exact same organization which just happens to be a think tank created by gee, corporate tycoons, I have no proof..

 

Yeah, I want some of what your smoking.

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[ImWithStupid]

Ah, I see, so even though all those URL came from strangely the exact same I.P. address, and are funnily enough registered to the exact same organization which just happens to be a think tank created by gee, corporate tycoons, I have no proof..

 

Yeah, I want some of what your smoking.

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Same IP address as what? The thousands of independent Tea Parties across the nations or the one you posted.

 

I'm guessing the latter.

 

Keep it up. Some day you could wright for MSLSD.

 

Still proved NOTHING.

[phreakwars]

I guess it's all a big lie and left wing conspiracy... here's how it all went down...

 

Some left wing liberal hacker broke into the DNS database and changed the I.P. for all those "TEA PARTY" domains to all the same place, then, once he did that, he used his super leet hacker skills to change the domain name register to the names of CORPORATIONS... MAN was that liberal ever clever...

 

Man, who would have thought of that... find a grass roots campaign and all the url's you can about a tea party on the 15th, hack all the pages at all the ISP's holding the domains, and link them all together to companies and a think tank... man.. now that was one covert operation I tell ya.

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[ImWithStupid]

I guess it's all a big lie and left wing conspiracy... here's how it all went down...

 

Some left wing liberal hacker broke into the DNS database and changed the I.P. for all those "TEA PARTY" domains to all the same place, then, once he did that, he used his super leet hacker skills to change the domain name register to the names of CORPORATIONS... MAN was that liberal ever clever...

 

Man, who would have thought of that... find a grass roots campaign and all the url's you can about a tea party on the 15th, hack all the pages at all the ISP's holding the domains, and link them all together to companies and a think tank... man.. now that was one covert operation I tell ya.

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There are individual tea party campaigns all over the country that were started on Facebook and Myspace that have nothing to do with your "alleged right wing conspiracy" to give the rich more tax breaks.

 

Who sounds like the whacko?

 

The everyman who just wants smaller government and less deficit spending, or you who thinks there's a big corporate conspiracy to keep the rich, rich?

 

Sorry, but you lose.

 

You're the same people who claimed that Bush was paying off Wall Street because they were Republican fat cats.

 

That's a laugh. The people on wall street who made money and benefitted and keep benefiting from the government policies are Democrats. Just look at the Obama admin. Larry Summers, Obama himself with his advance so he can avoid getting his half a million after his tax plan goes in effect, etc...

 

Now as for the tea parties, nothing you poste links the thousands of tea parties to corporate sponsors nor does it show show where all the spontanious tea parties all over the country including those back in February was promoted by anyone or any corporate sponsor.

 

Keep up the left wing disinformation. Maybe you'll convince someone who really doesn't look at what you post or research and formulate their own opinion.

 

Good luck.

[phreakwars]

I won't dispute that yes there are individual tea parties out there who want the lower taxes, but that still doesn't sway from what these idiots are protesting about... LOWER TAXES FOR CORPORATIONS.

 

Even though their puny minds might tell them they are protesting lower taxes for themselves, the fact of the matter is, the only persons under the current administration who are paying higher taxes are the wealthy, and smokers.

 

But go ahead and convince yourself your right, the facts are the facts.

 

IT'S A CORPORATE TEA PARTY, and they invited a bunch of ignorant middle class folk to make it look legit.

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[RoyalOrleans]

IT'S A CORPORATE TEA PARTY, and they invited a bunch of ignorant middle class folk to make it look legit.

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What's the matter, Bendy? Are you sad that you didn't get an invite?

[ImWithStupid]

I won't dispute that yes there are individual tea parties out there who want the lower taxes, but that still doesn't sway from what these idiots are protesting about... LOWER TAXES FOR CORPORATIONS.

 

Even though their puny minds might tell them they are protesting lower taxes for themselves, the fact of the matter is, the only persons under the current administration who are paying higher taxes are the wealthy, and smokers.

 

But go ahead and convince yourself your right, the facts are the facts.

 

IT'S A CORPORATE TEA PARTY, and they invited a bunch of ignorant middle class folk to make it look legit.

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You still can't get past the MSLSD lie that these are just about taxes. The original hate wasn't about taxes, it was about too much spending and growth by the federal government. Taxes were an afterthought to most of the original tea parties.

 

You're right. Facts are facts and they aren't on your side of the argument about the origin of the tea parties.

[eddo]

You still can't get past the MSLSD lie that these are just about taxes. The original hate wasn't about taxes, it was about too much spending and growth by the federal government. Taxes were an afterthought to most of the original tea parties.

 

You're right. Facts are facts and they aren't on your side of the argument about the origin of the tea parties.

 

Obama supporters rarely let facts get in the way of a good argument...

[hugo]

All a corporation is is a business that is forced to incorporate by big government in order to be competitive. It provides most of us with jobs and all of us with goods and services. I personally think taking money from some and redistributing it is theft and immoral no matter who does it.

 

For your information most Americans have 401K's that suffer when taxes are raised on corporations, most Americans work for corporations and suffer greatly if that corporation is forced to downsize or go out of business. All Americans buy consumer goods the price of which includes the cost of taxes imposed on corporations.

 

Forgot to mention under our new socialist system when corporations fail the American taxpayer is now often forced to bail them out. We all got a strong interest that corporations are successful.

 

Lower taxes on corporations means more jobs, lower inflation and higher returns on investments..that is a good thing.

[phreakwars]

Correction. Lower taxes on corporations is SUPPOSED TO mean more jobs, lower inflation and higher returns on investments. Unfortunately, that isn't the case...

 

WHERE ARE THE JOBS ? Where is the lowered inflation, where are the investment returns? They were taken off shore so some rich guys could get even more tax breaks (unamerican tax cheats). It's high time they pay their dues.

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[hugo]

Correction. Lower taxes on corporations is SUPPOSED TO mean more jobs, lower inflation and higher returns on investments. Unfortunately, that isn't the case...

 

WHERE ARE THE JOBS ? Where is the lowered inflation, where are the investment returns? They were taken off shore so some rich guys could get even more tax breaks (unamerican tax cheats). It's high time they pay their dues.

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Just compare our unemployment rate with Europe's for the last 20 years and ask why we should copy Europe's model.

[snafu]

Correction. Lower taxes on corporations is SUPPOSED TO mean more jobs, lower inflation and higher returns on investments. Unfortunately, that isn't the case...

 

WHERE ARE THE JOBS ? Where is the lowered inflation, where are the investment returns? They were taken off shore so some rich guys could get even more tax breaks (unamerican tax cheats). It's high time they pay their dues.

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The more cooperations pay in taxes the more jobs will be outsourced.

[phreakwars]

The more cooperations pay in taxes the more jobs will be outsourced.

And the last 8 years of Bush tax cuts have proven the more tax breaks they are given the more they will outsource. Saying they will outsource if they have to pay more taxes is just a damn excuse.

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[RoyalOrleans]

They were taken off shore so some rich guys could get even more tax breaks

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Have you ever tried to noodle out the thought processes behind wealth envy? Here, let me help you. Nobody likes to be told that they just haven't worked smart enough or hard enough to become wealthy. People don't want to accept the fact that they've made some pathetic decision in their lives that stood in the way of success and wealth. They don't want to be told they didn't pay attention to their education. They don't want to hear that they took a dead-end job and hung with it for years. They don't want to hear that they were too eager to punch out and head home after their required eight hours every day .. eschewing a bit of extra work that might have moved them ahead a few squares. People don't want to hear that all of the money they spent on booze, partying, bass boats, vacations, car payments and lifestyle might have been better invested for future returns.

 

In short .. so many people just can't bring themselves to accept the fact that it is they who have held themselves back. No. No way. It's not their fault they aren't rich. You can hear the thought process: "I'm a good person. I work hard. I put in my 40 hours a week. I pay my taxes. I coach little league. It's not my fault I'm not rich. Those rich people cheated. They have crooked lawyers. They cheat on their taxes. They've exploited people like me. They're may be poor but at least I'm honest. Those rich people are all crooks and they're holding the rest of us down.

 

Wealth envy should be eradicated from the face of the earth like the Jews of Old.

[RoyalOrleans]

And the last 8 years of Bush tax cuts have proven the more tax breaks they are given the more they will outsource. Saying they will outsource if they have to pay more taxes is just a damn excuse.

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Now just ask yourself .. what would you do if you were an employer and you felt that the Democrats were on the verge of passing the union's "card check" bill. Well .. I'll tell you what I would do. I would be looking at any automation that I could find that would reduce my workforce. I would then go with all of the offshore options I could find that would allow me to get rid of more employees. Then I would go to staffing agencies for the rest of my workforce. The people working in my place of business would not be working for me. They would be working for a staffing agency. If they want to unionize something, they can unionize the staffing agency. If the Democrats bring us "card check" along with an expansion of the Family Leave Act my guess is that there are a lot of employers out there who will do everything they can to get rid of employees.

 

Unions played a big part in destroying the big three automakers. Now they can play a similar role with your business. Aren't you workers glad you voted for Obama? You might have voted yourself right slap out of a job.

[phreakwars]

Wealth envy is a tired ass excuse. Has nothing to do with anybody going... GEE, IT AIN'T FAIR, THEY HAVE THIS OR THAT AND I'M SUFFERING. It has to do with a balanced economy. When the class pay rate is way off balance like it is, we get recession, job losses, and all the other nasty stuff we are seeing now, it's a very simple thing to explain. The regular class can't afford crap, so therefore the economy suffers and people start losing jobs and the cycle starts. That's all there is to it. Nothing wrong with being rich as hell and being greedy.. at least there isn't anything wrong with it until it starts affecting the overall economy, which it has. It's a lame and worn out excuse to say... OH YOUR JUST JEALOUS, or OH PEOPLE ARE JUST FREELOADERS AND WANT SOMETHING FOR FREE or that they want the government to hold their hand. That's absolutely wrong... what people want is a stable economy. Who wins and who loses can be sorted out later.

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[RoyalOrleans]

Wealth envy is a tired ass excuse. Has nothing to do with anybody going... GEE, IT AIN'T FAIR, THEY HAVE THIS OR THAT AND I'M SUFFERING. It has to do with a balanced economy.

 

I propose that everyone out there who hates the rich quit their jobs and go get one from a poor person.

 

When the class pay rate is way off balance like it is, we get recession, job losses, and all the other nasty stuff we are seeing now, it's a very simple thing to explain. The regular class can't afford crap, so therefore the economy suffers and people start losing jobs and the cycle starts. That's all there is to it. Nothing wrong with being rich as hell and being greedy.. at least there isn't anything wrong with it until it starts affecting the overall economy, which it has.

 

Corporations do not print money. Therefore, they must acquire it somewhere in order to pay their tax burdens. There are only three places corporations can collect that money:

 

PRICES of goods and services, which the consumers pay. Because there are more middle income and low income consumers than wealthy ones, that piece of corporate tax burden is most heavily levied against the middle and lower income consumers.

 

WAGES/SALARIES of corporate employees. Corporations can reduce what they pay in both wages and benefits to their employees to help pay their corporate taxes. Again, because there are more middle and lower income wage & salary earners, they bear the brunt of that portion of corporate taxes. Jobs can also be eliminated, saving the corporation 100 percent of the former employee's salary and benefits.

 

SHAREHOLDERS: Corporations can also use money that would otherwise go to shareholders (investors). Anyone who has a pension plan, a 401K, or an IRA is most likely to be a shareholder. So, corporate taxes raid our retirement funds. And since it is the rich who can more easily invest additional funds elsewhere, who do you suppose bears the heaviest burden on taxes taken from shareholders? Middle and lower income wage earners. This particular source of tax income also lowers the desirability of a corporation's stock, which in turn lowers the value of that stock, which in turn also reduces the value our our retirement funds. So, it is a double whammy for middle and lower income earners.

 

Additionally, more severe corporate tax burdens require corporations to spend more of their gross profits on tax compliance, because they must hire accountants and lawyers to ensure they do not inadvertently under pay their taxes. These costs, too, must be covered by a combination of the above three mentioned revenue sources.

 

Bottom line is that corporations are tax collectors. They do not have the ability to create money from thin air, so they must collect it from a combination of the above mentioned three sources. In all three cases, it is NOT the upper income earners who are most heavily burdened; it is the middle and lower income earners.

 

So, anyone who advocates for raising corporate taxes is really advocating for disproportionately raising the taxes of the middle and lower income earners.

[phreakwars]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOinq_IeCyY]YouTube - Countdown - Shuster cuts loose on the teabagging fools of the wild-eyed right...[/ame]

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[snafu]

Wealth envy is a tired ass excuse. Has nothing to do with anybody going... GEE, IT AIN'T FAIR, THEY HAVE THIS OR THAT AND I'M SUFFERING. It has to do with a balanced economy. When the class pay rate is way off balance like it is, we get recession, job losses, and all the other nasty stuff we are seeing now, it's a very simple thing to explain. The regular class can't afford crap, so therefore the economy suffers and people start losing jobs and the cycle starts. That's all there is to it. Nothing wrong with being rich as hell and being greedy.. at least there isn't anything wrong with it until it starts affecting the overall economy, which it has. It's a lame and worn out excuse to say... OH YOUR JUST JEALOUS, or OH PEOPLE ARE JUST FREELOADERS AND WANT SOMETHING FOR FREE or that they want the government to hold their hand. That's absolutely wrong... what people want is a stable economy. Who wins and who loses can be sorted out later.

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Greedy... Greedy talk about mantra's or catch phrases. I'm sure if you were rich you would hand out all of your money just to be fair right? Even steven right? You work and I'll watch your stuff for half OK?

[snafu]

Tell you Bender you greedy bastard. I'm sure you know some poor homless sole out there. Go give them half of you pay each week to him.

[phreakwars]

Considering I grew up poor and had jack.. yes I would, because I know I wouldn't miss it, and I know how much more it would help someone who wasn't.

 

That's what separates us... GREED, you are, I'm not.

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[snafu]

No better yet give him 80% of your check to him. Thats what the rest of those greedy bastards are doing.

[snafu]

Considering I grew up poor and had jack.. yes I would, because I know I wouldn't miss it, and I know how much more it would help someone who wasn't.

 

That's what separates us... GREED, you are, I'm not.

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Because you were poor doesn't make it right. Didn't you go out and get a job? Isn't the you worked for you earned?

[phreakwars]

More fear and paranoia, it just never ends with you does it? But, it's to be expected from someone who subscribes to the fear and paranoia party of astroturf corporate tea party campaigns.

 

It's not my fault your a sucker.

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