Tea Party Anyone?

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More fear and paranoia, it just never ends with you does it? But, it's to be expected from someone who subscribes to the fear and paranoia party of astroturf corporate tea party campaigns.

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Well I hope your right. For the your's and my children sake. I hope your right.

[phreakwars]

I know I'm right, do you know why... because so far the fear and paranoia crowd has been WRONG.

 

Wrong about the economy, wrong about Obama's ability to handle a crisis, wrong about his ability to negotiate with world leaders, just wrong all the way around.

 

Perhaps if the ones who are hollering and screaming would give the guy a chance, a benefit of the doubt, or in the very least CREDIT. There wouldn't be as much to worry about...

 

Look at the facts.. 98% of the people complaining (INCLUDING YOU) ARE GETTING A TAX CUT. The tax increase on the wealthy, is STILL LESS THEN WHAT IT WAS UNDER REAGAN...

 

What's the problem here?

 

He's bringing BALANCE to the American force... why on Earth would he WANT our economy to fail or want to tax the hell out of people? I really wish, ney.. HOPE people wake up and quit slamming the guy just because they didn't vote for him and see for themselves... HE'S ON YOUR SIDE.

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[snafu]

I know I'm right, do you know why... because so far the fear and paranoia crowd has been WRONG.

 

Wrong about the economy, wrong about Obama's ability to handle a crisis, wrong about his ability to negotiate with world leaders, just wrong all the way around.

 

Perhaps if the ones who are hollering and screaming would give the guy a chance, a benefit of the doubt, or in the very least CREDIT. There wouldn't be as much to worry about...

 

Look at the facts.. 98% of the people complaining (INCLUDING YOU) ARE GETTING A TAX CUT. The tax increase on the wealthy, is STILL LESS THEN WHAT IT WAS UNDER REAGAN...

 

What's the problem here?

 

He's bringing BALANCE to the American force... why on Earth would he WANT our economy to fail or want to tax the hell out of people? I really wish, ney.. HOPE people wake up and quit slamming the guy just because they didn't vote for him and see for themselves... HE'S ON YOUR SIDE.

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No I'm getting a few dollars in my pay check more but my health insurance is going up. A friend is retiring and her insurances is outrages! I'm hoping I read it wrong but it was $679 quarterly. She will only get less than half her pay now minus this.

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Her husband died and she is past retirement time and yet she can't afford to. She would have to find another job. SSN is upside down now 8 years to early. So forget about drawing from it.

[RoyalOrleans]

I know I'm right, do you know why... because so far the fear and paranoia crowd has been WRONG.

 

To paraphrase a previous post, Bendy: "Fear and paranoia is a tired ass excuse."

 

Oooooooo....

 

Wrong about the economy, wrong about Obama's ability to handle a crisis, wrong about his ability to negotiate with world leaders, just wrong all the way around.

 

I'll give you one out of the three. He handled the Somali pirate situation very well, but with the way he spoke about it he pulled the trigger(s) to end the situation. Oh... anyways.. good job.

 

Perhaps if the ones who are hollering and screaming would give the guy a chance, a benefit of the doubt, or in the very least CREDIT. There wouldn't be as much to worry about...

 

Giving someone credit is a higher honor, let's say, than giving someone the benefit of the doubt. Look at the operative words here; "credit" and "doubt". Banks don't lend money on a principle of a doubt and you don't recieve credit when your credit report is doubtful. Maybe you meant the operative word here to be "least".

 

So we're on to chance. I've given him a chance and right now with the woes that many Americans face these days, we (as a unified front) cannot bank on chance.

 

For all the problems America faces, its citizens do not have the time to give Obama a chance.

 

Americans should not just trust that Obama knows what he is doing. Political dithering should not be accepted on the basis that he eventually will get done what needs to be done. There are plans and policy proposals out there for doing what needs to be done now.

 

It does not make sense to give any president or leader no matter who he or she is a chance especially when giving that chance means letting a president or leader placate a public with wishful thinking, especially when it means brushing aside and hushing the populist rage that is currently inescapable in America.

 

 

Look at the facts.. 98% of the people complaining (INCLUDING YOU) ARE GETTING A TAX CUT. The tax increase on the wealthy, is STILL LESS THEN WHAT IT WAS UNDER REAGAN...

 

During the campaign Obama promised a tax cut to 95% of working families. This brought up the question of how you deliver tax cuts to people who don't pay income taxes .. and that includes about half of the 95% of Americans Obama was schmoozing. Now Obamabots are trying to get around this little factual inconvenience by reminding you that these people pay Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes. But wait a minute! I thought that money that goes to Social Security wasn't a tax, it's a contribution! What does it say on your paycheck? FICA? That's "Federal Insurance Contribution Act." This is really an insurance premium, not a tax, so what's really happening here is that Obama wants to give those more likely to vote for him a free ride for their Social Security. That turns Social Security into a pure welfare program. Ditto for Medicare.

 

What's the problem here?

 

So .. .when Obama says "tax cut," he really means "welfare check." A government handout. Your money seized from you and given to someone who didn't earn it ... or your children and grandchildren hit with a debt they'll have to repay later.

 

This is the new definition of a tax cut. And we have Barack Obama to thank for it, not to mention a compliant media ... a media that refuses to expose this government-speak.

 

He's bringing BALANCE to the American force... why on Earth would he WANT our economy to fail or want to tax the hell out of people? I really wish, ney.. HOPE people wake up and quit slamming the guy just because they didn't vote for him and see for themselves... HE'S ON YOUR SIDE.

 

The Age of Obama... gotta love it.

 

Of course Obama is on my side, my right side dipping his mits into my pocket, placating me with speech of wishful thinking with errr's and ahhh's a'flurry, and his left hand behind his back with his finger crossed.

 

I know a snake when I see one.

 

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others." Ayn Rand

[eddo]

Considering I grew up poor and had jack.. yes I would, because I know I wouldn't miss it,

 

No "would" crap. Either do it or don't. But don't play Obama and talk a good talk while delivering nothing.

 

I whole heartedly agree with RO.

[RoyalOrleans]

Considering I grew up poor and had jack.. yes I would, because I know I wouldn't miss it, and I know how much more it would help someone who wasn't.

 

That's what separates us... GREED, you are, I'm not.

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We are now living in a world where the government is expected to make sure that you can live a cushy lifestyle. The idea of personal success and hard work has been usurped by government entitlement programs. We're turning America into a giant assisted care living center.

 

Work? Are you kidding? More and more people think that the purpose of work is to improve lifestyle while government takes care of the basics. With a culture that is unwilling to work to get ahead, there will be no growth in this country.

 

I want to keep what I earn. If that makes me GREEDY, then fukkit I'm a greedy old bastard. Oh yeah... throw in bigot and hatemonger while you're at it.

[ImWithStupid]

I know I'm right, do you know why... because so far the fear and paranoia crowd has been WRONG.

 

Wrong about the economy, wrong about Obama's ability to handle a crisis, wrong about his ability to negotiate with world leaders, just wrong all the way around.

 

Perhaps if the ones who are hollering and screaming would give the guy a chance, a benefit of the doubt, or in the very least CREDIT. There wouldn't be as much to worry about...

 

Look at the facts.. 98% of the people complaining (INCLUDING YOU) ARE GETTING A TAX CUT. The tax increase on the wealthy, is STILL LESS THEN WHAT IT WAS UNDER REAGAN...

 

What's the problem here?

 

He's bringing BALANCE to the American force... why on Earth would he WANT our economy to fail or want to tax the hell out of people? I really wish, ney.. HOPE people wake up and quit slamming the guy just because they didn't vote for him and see for themselves... HE'S ON YOUR SIDE.

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First off, there is no way, yet, to know if he was wrong or right on the economy (I hope he's right, I doubt it, but I hope he is). The stock market is still fluctuating day to day by the news. The only reason the banks are now showing a profit is an accounting issue, because they finally quit using "mark to market" accounting on mortgages. The banks are still in just as bad of shape as they were a month ago.

 

The residential real estate problem is starting to level out, but we have yet to be hit with the commercial real estate collapse that many economists believe is coming.

 

What crisis has he handled?

 

What has he proven about handling world leaders. He had two goals at the G20. He walked away empty handed. North Korea is thumbing it's nose right at him constantly, and so is Iran.

 

Second part about taxes is just false. The Obama tax "cuts" ($13 a week this year, and down to $8 per week next year) will be gone and actually become a tax increase after the Bush cuts expire in 2010.

 

Reagan didn't raise taxes on the wealthy. He dropped the upper limit from 70% to 28%. Obama is raising it to 39%.

 

When Reagan did that, individual income tax revenues rose from $244 billion in 1980 to $446 billion in 1989. Nearly doubled revenue to the federal government.

[ImWithStupid]

It's damn near a miracle that tens of thousands of people were able to gather on the same day for a protest like this.

 

It's easy for protests from those on the left, but most of the people at the tea parties, had to take off work.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I know I'm right, do you know why... because so far the fear and paranoia crowd has been WRONG.

 

Wrong about the economy, wrong about Obama's ability to handle a crisis, wrong about his ability to negotiate with world leaders, just wrong all the way around.

 

Perhaps if the ones who are hollering and screaming would give the guy a chance, a benefit of the doubt, or in the very least CREDIT. There wouldn't be as much to worry about...

 

Look at the facts.. 98% of the people complaining (INCLUDING YOU) ARE GETTING A TAX CUT. The tax increase on the wealthy, is STILL LESS THEN WHAT IT WAS UNDER REAGAN...

 

What's the problem here?

 

He's bringing BALANCE to the American force... why on Earth would he WANT our economy to fail or want to tax the hell out of people? I really wish, ney.. HOPE people wake up and quit slamming the guy just because they didn't vote for him and see for themselves... HE'S ON YOUR SIDE.

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HAHA!!! This is very funny. You are having fun with us. You're just playing devil's advocate, right. Nobody REALLY believes the crap your saying... Right???

 

Running around with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears screaming "Lalalala" is not going to help you see the truth around you.

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Just got back from Wasilla after sending in my tea bag to congress.

 

 

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I got there late so only about 50 people when I showed up.

Edited April 2, 2016 by rem

[phreakwars]

So how many showed up there to protest the tax rates Bush set in anyway?

 

They couldn't have been protesting Obama, he gave tax cuts..

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[RoyalOrleans]

So how many showed up there to protest the tax rates Bush set in anyway?

 

The Congressional Budget Office has produced a new set of statistics showing who pays what taxes in America. The lyin' left has seized on these statistics to say that the CBO figures show that the George Bush tax cuts shifted a good bit of the tax burden from the rich to the middle class.

 

Not so fast. Just in case you run across some of these news stories, and in case you actually believe that the federal income tax burden has been shifted from the rich to the middle class, there's something you need to know.

 

The media wanted to take these CBO numbers and report them in a way that would make the Bush tax cuts look bad. It's all part of the template. If you can spin a story so that it looks favorable to Obama or Kerry or Al Gore, and bad for Bush ... do it. How do you monkey with the CBO figures to accomplish this? Simple ... you include Social Security and Medicare taxes in your equation. The Bush tax cuts cut income tax rates, not Social Security or Medicare rates. The only fair way to report on how these tax cuts affected the various income levels would be to cite income tax rates only. Guess what? If you only include numbers from who is paying what federal income taxes you will find that the rich are paying a higher percentage of income taxes collected by the federal government now than they were before the tax cuts!!! Now those of you educated in government schools may think that it's impossible to cut tax rates on the rich and then have them pay an even higher percentage of the taxes. Try to think outside the government school box. It has been proven time and time again that when you lower tax rates on the rich ... when you allow the rich to keep a higher percentage of the money that they work for and earn ... they will work even harder to earn even more! As they work harder they end up paying more income taxes than before, even though their actual tax rate is lower.

 

It's simple. Reward the rich for their efforts, and they'll work even harder. The harder they work, the more taxes they pay. Now, after the tax cuts, they're shouldering an even higher percentage of the burden then before. This is a message the media doesn't want to convey, because it's a message that supports Bush's tax cuts. That's why they're playing with the numbers.

 

 

They couldn't have been protesting Obama, he gave tax cuts.

 

Barack Obama is well on his way to taxing the dog squeeze out of the achievers, the business owners, the wealthy - the people who create the jobs in this country. Starting in 2011, over the next 10 years, Obama is proposing almost $1 trillion in tax increases. And you wealth-envy types can rest your pretty little heads .. he is going to increase taxes on those evil rich people you so love to hate. Jake Tapper frome ABC News has the breakdown...

 

1) On households making more than $250,000:

 

$338 billion from turning back the Bush tax cuts.

$179 billlion by reducing the limits on itemized deductions

$118 billion by increasing capital gains taxes

Total: $636 billion/10 years

 

2) On evil businesses:

 

$17 billion comes from bringing back the Superfund taxes

$24 billion fromtreating tax carried-interest as income

$5 billion by codifying "economic substance doctrine"

$61 billion from repeal of the LIFO accounting practice

$210 billion from international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform

$4 billion - information reporting for rental payments

$5.3 billion from excise tax increases on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas

$3.4 billion from repealing the expensing of tangible drilling costs

$62 million from repealing the deductions for tertiary injectants

$49 million from repealing passive loss exceptions for working interests in oil and natural gas properties

13 billion by repealing manufacturing tax deductions for oil and natural gas companies

$1 billion by increasing to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers

$882 million through eliminating advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years

 

There are people who actually believe that Obama is going to succeed in his quest to return economic prosperity to our country through taxation. There are also people who believe that wet streets cause rain. These people are commonly called "idiots."

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[Chi]

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lol, right on!

[phreakwars]

Love that sign in the rear. America was built on the backs of poor people.

 

WHY STOP NOW?

 

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[RoyalOrleans]

It's perfectly alright for tens of thousands of illegal aliens to march in Los Angeles demanding rights and welfare. On the other hand, it is not fine and dandy for a few thousand unhappy taxpayers to protest, per the liberal mainstream media.

 

Yeah, right. The revolution might be sooner than I thought.

 

CNN Reporter at Chicago Tea Party: It's "Anti-CNN Since This is Highly Promoted By the Right-Wing, Conservative Network Fox"

 

Susan Roesgen's coverage for CNN should be right up your alley, Bender. She handled it, like most reporters of her ilk, rather clumsily. Say what you will, this woman is destined for mediocrity.

[phreakwars]

Why post the article when you can post the video?

 

I think she was talking about all the retards whoopin' and hollering and cursing and being just plain ignorant, that you could hear in the background.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0]YouTube - CNN Reporter Harassed at Chicago "Tea-Party"[/ame]

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[ImWithStupid]

At least she honestly admitted that she and CNN had a left wing agenda, and her approach that she was there to argue, not interview, was quite obvious.

[ImWithStupid]

Thread Derail Notice

 

Is it just me or is there something about Shepard Smith, like his eyes or eyelashes that is quite feminine?

[Chi]

Thread Derail Notice

 

Is it just me or is there something about Shepard Smith, like his eyes or eyelashes that is quite feminine?

 

IWS likes Shepard Smith's perty eyes....

[RoyalOrleans]

Why post the article when you can post the video?

 

I think she was talking about all the retards whoopin' and hollering and cursing and being just plain ignorant, that you could hear in the background.

 

YouTube - CNN Reporter Harassed at Chicago "Tea-Party"

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In order to promote my right wing, anti-government, racist agenda, I just had to route you to a conservative propaganda site.

 

(sarcasmface)(peternorthesquefacial)

[RoyalOrleans]

At least she honestly admitted that she and CNN had a left wing agenda, and her approach that she was there to argue, not interview, was quite obvious.

 

Oh yeah...

 

She went fishing and caught the biggest stuttering jackass-fish amongst the protesting rabble.

 

By the way, I was at the Atlanta Tea Party. I don't like tea, not even sweet tea and that's a southern specialty, but I do like protesting and arguing against this administration.

 

I prefer beer.

[ImWithStupid]

Why post the article when you can post the video?

 

I think she was talking about all the retards whoopin' and hollering and cursing and being just plain ignorant, that you could hear in the background.

 

YouTube - CNN Reporter Harassed at Chicago "Tea-Party"

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What wasn't shown, even though her agenda was obvious, was how she was challenged off CNN camera and couldn't defend her position...

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xWGvdRQ9Q]YouTube - Chicago Tax Day Tea Party - What CNN Did Not Show You Behind The Scenes - Reporter Owned 4/16/09[/ame]

 

 

It appears that CNN is just as much of a left wing, hack, "news" agency as NBC, MSLSD, HuffPo, Daily Kos, CBS, etc...

 

Shows that the tea parties aren't partisan like they want to portray, and totally defines and shines the light on the CNN agenda.

[ImWithStupid]

Again, what was amazing, was that amongst the couple of hundreds of thousands of people at hudreds or thousands of gatherings no news of violence, vandalism, or mayham.

 

Maybe it's because, unlike liberal protests, it's more likely that the people at the tea parties respect property because they too, have jobs, and property, unlike most liberal protests.

 

I also scoff and laugh at the claims of corporate backing. You hardly even saw a sign that wasn't handmade, unlike most liberal protests where it's all mass made signs and handed out to paid protesters like ACORN who now gets federal taxpayer funds to protest, so the left gets the largest corporate backing there is, the current, Fed Gov, DNC, Obama Continued Campaign Program, but the Tea Parties are supposedly backed by corporations.

 

Keep drinking the Kool-aid, the facts, stats, and history are on the side of the "radical right" at least as far as the Obama HSA is concerned.