Guest NewsBot Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 NEW YORK (AP) -- The FBI arrested four men Wednesday in what authorities called a plot to detonate a bomb outside a Jewish temple and to shoot military planes with guided missiles.... By TOM McELROY More... Quote
phreakwars Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 But, but, Obama has made us LESS secure, we should be having terrorist attacks by now thanks to his incompetence and piss poor weak policy right? . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
snafu Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Thank God and George for the Patriot Act A? Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
phreakwars Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 You are truly sick in the head. More like thank good ole fashioned detective work. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 But, but, Obama has made us LESS secure, we should be having terrorist attacks by now thanks to his incompetence and piss poor weak policy right? . . Look at that. Another baseless comment without relevance. Officials told The Associated Press the arrests came after a nearly yearlong undercover operation that began in Newburgh. Quote
hugo Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Obama's plan to to shut down Guantanamo got voted down 90-6. i should say lack of plan, since he had no idea where to put the scumbags after shutting down their current abode. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
phreakwars Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Look at that. Another baseless comment without relevance. Really? From the Columbus Telegram Muslims fueled by hatred of America and Jews, they spent months scouting targets and securing what they thought was a surface-to-air missile system and powerful explosives _ all under the watch of an FBI informant. Yeah, Patriot Act at work my @ss. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Really? From the Columbus Telegram Yeah, Patriot Act at work my @ss. . . What the hell kind of leap is that? I didn't say anything about the Patriot Act. Your Obama reference was baseless and irrelevant. You know, the one I quoted. Quote
phreakwars Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Your right, I scrolled too far (SENSITIVE MIDDLE WHEEL), thought it was yours, wrong quote... was meant for snafu... MY BAD. Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
snafu Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Your right, I scrolled too far (SENSITIVE MIDDLE WHEEL), thought it was yours, wrong quote... was meant for snafu... MY BAD. And I'm sure they used surveillance also. They need prof and not by just and informant. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
phreakwars Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 I'm sure they did too SNAF. There are many other investigative options at one's disposal that were perfectly acceptable and widely used pre-patriot act. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 And I'm sure they used surveillance also. They need prof and not by just and informant. I'm sure they did too, but not warrantless surveillance. I doubt the Patriot Act had anything to do with it. Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 The Bill of Rights is MY Patriot Act. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
RoyalOrleans Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Thank God and George for the Patriot Act A? I love how all these "small-government" types (who never lifted a finger when Bush the Younger was expanding the powers of the government exponentially) NOW are reading Rand and acting like it's the gospel. I wonder how Ayn Rand would feel about the PATRIOT act? The point is that we have people who never cared for limited government now jumping on the bandwagon and acting like they have read Ayn Rand all along. Case in point - please don't call yourself a small/limited government type and say you back the PATRIOT Act (which is sort of "soft-fascism" with red, white, and blue ribbons wrapped around it!). To say "YES! Government please listen to my phone calls, read my emails, because I have nothing to hide!". Is like saying, "YES! Throw the shackles on my wrists and about my ankles! I am your subservient dog. I beg you to strip my civil rights as a patriot, as a citizen, and as a human fukken being.". Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
RoyalOrleans Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Obama's plan to to shut down Guantanamo got voted down 90-6. i should say lack of plan, since he had no idea where to put the scumbags after shutting down their current abode. I have two great suggestions for relocating the prisoners. Haiti or Berkeley. You choose. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
ImWithStupid Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I love how all these "small-government" types (who never lifted a finger when Bush the Younger was expanding the powers of the government exponentially) NOW are reading Rand and acting like it's the gospel. I wonder how Ayn Rand would feel about the PATRIOT act? I think some people were OK with the Patriot Act, and I myself didn't think it was a good idea, but I wasn't as worked up about it, because there was a sundown provision attached, like the assault weapons ban. The power grab and expansion of the executive branch in other areas under Bush and now ballooning under Obama doesn't have that restriction, yet. Quote
snafu Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I think the Patriot Act is and was essential in taking out insurgents and sleeper cells. We need the information it provides. The goverment is there to protect us not control us. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
RoyalOrleans Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I think some people were OK with the Patriot Act, and I myself didn't think it was a good idea, but I wasn't as worked up about it, because there was a sundown provision attached, like the assault weapons ban. Alot of people were OK with the Patriot Act, because they assume the government will do right by them. Then again, if you have nothing to hide... so be it. I, for one, have plenty to hide. The government doesn't need to know about my intimate conversations with Daisy on 1-900-HOT-SLUT. (rollseyesface) I'm not a opposed to certain aspects of surveilance, however I wholeheartedly, vehemently, and with a fukken passion stand behind MY rights under the Bill of Rights. The power grab and expansion of the executive branch in other areas under Bush and now ballooning under Obama doesn't have that restriction, yet. The expotential growth of our federal government is unconstitutional. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
RoyalOrleans Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I think the Patriot Act is and was essential in taking out insurgents and sleeper cells. We need the information it provides. The goverment is there to protect us not control us. Thus making the Second Amendment null and void? No. Double no. Who will protect me when the government seizes all that I have, all that I have worked for, for the glorification of its massive ego? I'd just assume die in a gunfight with actual criminals. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
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