Minn. court rules for Franken in Senate fight

[timesjoke]

That's odd. My paycheck is from the taxpayers of Platte County, Nebraska, but I swear I pay state and federal taxes, that go outside of Platte County.

 

 

And your paid from tax dollars so it is a wash. You do not create "new" dollars is my point, your just recycling the same tax dollar. Many outside funds also come into Platte County I am sure.

 

Remove all private business and everything will collapse, we need private business to keep the economy going, that is the heart of our system. Government employees and welfare are exactly the same from the standpoint they do not support themselves, they need the "system" to provide for their existence.

 

 

On the other hand private business pays people to produce products and services that can exist without the Government being involved, so the money we generate means we are self-supportive.

[ImWithStupid]

And your paid from tax dollars so it is a wash. You do not create "new" dollars is my point, your just recycling the same tax dollar. Many outside funds also come into Platte County I am sure.

 

Remove all private business and everything will collapse, we need private business to keep the economy going, that is the heart of our system. Government employees and welfare are exactly the same from the standpoint they do not support themselves, they need the "system" to provide for their existence.

 

 

On the other hand private business pays people to produce products and services that can exist without the Government being involved, so the money we generate means we are self-supportive.

 

 

Whatever.

[phreakwars]

So did you save a big portion of that "decent money" just in case? Or did you spend it as fast as you made it?

 

Your story is a common one these days and I feel bad for all Americans who are in this situation but why should my tax dollars go to support your bad luck and lack of planning?

 

If that guy was so stupid and you are better then start your own business, if you can afford all the new taxes Obama will put on your back as a business owner that is. You say you worked 7 days a week sometimes and was so good then you simply pick up the pieces of the dropped customers and do it all yourself...maybe hire a couple other people to work for you that knew the clients and other aspects you do not understand.

 

Your way way behind me and far off buddy. I already have the franchise app in, have went up to the new location and checked out empty buildiings and cost analysis, and have already been looking for a new home to purchase. My plans are to open up my own business, but not in this town. Did I save a portion of that money or did I blow it?

 

Nigga, I never even needed the job when I first applied, I just wanted to get away from the kids for a few hours and worked out of my home. Now I'm plunking down some cash as part of a down payment on a $100,000+ investment? What the hell do YOU think?

 

I don't need your personal financial advice, and certainly not your assumptions of my financial situation. I was making a metaphorical statement on losing a job you idiot. Before the boss ran it into the ground, he offered to sell it to me, I declined because I won't assume debt, and this town sucks. I even had the mayor giving me info on places in this town, and to me, it's not worth it, I'm going somewhere that I actually want to retire in my old age... Okoboji.

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[timesjoke]

Your way way behind me and far off buddy. I already have the franchise app in, have went up to the new location and checked out empty buildiings and cost analysis, and have already been looking for a new home to purchase. My plans are to open up my own business, but not in this town. Did I save a portion of that money or did I blow it?

 

Nigga, I never even needed the job when I first applied, I just wanted to get away from the kids for a few hours and worked out of my home. Now I'm plunking down some cash as part of a down payment on a $100,000+ investment? What the hell do YOU think?

 

I don't need your personal financial advice, and certainly not your assumptions of my financial situation. I was making a metaphorical statement on losing a job you idiot. Before the boss ran it into the ground, he offered to sell it to me, I declined because I won't assume debt, and this town sucks. I even had the mayor giving me info on places in this town, and to me, it's not worth it, I'm going somewhere that I actually want to retire in my old age... Okoboji.

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And you make my point for me very well my friend.

 

You are doing what all people can do. Why are you so fast to bang on the Government welfare drum when your own life is one of taking care of yourself?

 

Are you one of 'those' liberals who blieve some people are too stupid to take care of themselves? Do you think there are some who cannot do as you do?

 

 

I don't see people that Way Bender. To me we are all equal and can do whatever we set our minds to do....the problem is motivation. Some are content with living lower in the status department as long as they can do so without putting forth any effort.

 

 

 

My point in this is why should you or I pay massive increases in taxes just to take care of the lazy? Remove welfare and watch our illegal problem go away too because suddenly there are people who are willing to pick vegtables right here in America. That in turn makes more tax money on top of not paying it out for the welfare and suddenly we are back in the black as a Nation....and even if you wanted to make a national healthcare plan at that point, at least then we would have a way to pay for it where right now we can't.

[phreakwars]

And you make my point for me very well my friend.

 

You are doing what all people can do. Why are you so fast to bang on the Government welfare drum when your own life is one of taking care of yourself?

Because I grew up on welfare at one point, and know the reality of the situation for alot of people. The frustration some feel. I've seen people who worked hard their whole life, who were very charitable, who held that high and mighty attitude of "YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF". I watched them fall by fate and not their own doing, and watched how they couldn't claw their way back.

 

Are you one of 'those' liberals who blieve some people are too stupid to take care of themselves? Do you think there are some who cannot do as you do?

No, I'm one of those AMERICANS who believes in helping out my fellow American, and in doing so, I make myself better off.

 

I don't see people that Way Bender. To me we are all equal and can do whatever we set our minds to do....the problem is motivation. Some are content with living lower in the status department as long as they can do so without putting forth any effort.

Equal? what a crock. How about kids who were in the Special Ed classes? Who had some of the best educators, a good home, but still after many years of school have a hard time doing the simplest of tasks like reading. These types usually have careers in factories doing monkey work. They spend years doing this hard labor, and if one day, their company goes under, these people have no skills except the monkey skills they were trained to have... tell them.. "OH JUST GO OPEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT" You have no sense of reality dude. Everyone is NOT equal. It doesn't mean they deserve special treatment, but it does mean we are obligated to find a place for everyone. Even the monkey labor.

 

My point in this is why should you or I pay massive increases in taxes just to take care of the lazy? Remove welfare and watch our illegal problem go away too because suddenly there are people who are willing to pick vegtables right here in America. That in turn makes more tax money on top of not paying it out for the welfare and suddenly we are back in the black as a Nation....and even if you wanted to make a national healthcare plan at that point, at least then we would have a way to pay for it where right now we can't.

Your problem is you stereotype too many of your fellow countrymen as lazy, unmotivated, wanting to live off the system, and any other excuse you can think of to not have to help your fellow man. As for WHY SHOULD YOU have to pay? Well, simple answer, for the good of the pack.

 

The bold lion and the cunning wolf hunt in packs, they kill their prey, and other lion or wolf will come along and help eat and feast. The lion never rejects the person in the pack who didn't help catch they prey, why should we?

 

This self serving attitude of yours and many other conservatives MUST be a greed thing. It sure isn't a Christian thing because Jesus would NEVER approve of it. If you want to debate WHY SHOULD I DO THIS OR THAT. Don't ask me, ask Jesus, I'm betting he'll have the answer, and I'll bet even more, you'd rather not listen to that answer because it goes against the party line you like to tow.

 

In fact, as of late, EVERYTHING the Republicans want is something to tow the party line. Doesn't matter if you vote against your own well being. If it's the opposite of what the Democrats propose, it's what your for. If it's something Jesus would do, but is a Democrat plan, your against it anyway... just tow that line.... I'm looking forward to see how far it gets any of the Republican candidates in 2012'

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[timesjoke]

Because I grew up on welfare at one point, and know the reality of the situation for alot of people. The frustration some feel. I've seen people who worked hard their whole life, who were very charitable, who held that high and mighty attitude of "YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF". I watched them fall by fate and not their own doing, and watched how they couldn't claw their way back.

 

It is always their own doing, anyone can have bad things happen to them, but it is their choice to stay down. I have started over twice, I never took a dime from the Government and I never will because I am nobody's victim, I cannot be kept down.

 

 

No, I'm one of those AMERICANS who believes in helping out my fellow American, and in doing so, I make myself better off.

 

Only if "YOUR" doing the giving yourself. Charity is choice and when people see voluntary charity it actually builds community and a feeling of responsibility from those getting the help.

 

When the Government does it they create a trend of abuse that acutually hurts society.

 

 

Equal? what a crock. How about kids who were in the Special Ed classes? Who had some of the best educators, a good home, but still after many years of school have a hard time doing the simplest of tasks like reading. These types usually have careers in factories doing monkey work. They spend years doing this hard labor, and if one day, their company goes under, these people have no skills except the monkey skills they were trained to have... tell them.. "OH JUST GO OPEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT" You have no sense of reality dude. Everyone is NOT equal. It doesn't mean they deserve special treatment, but it does mean we are obligated to find a place for everyone. Even the monkey labor.

 

Leave it to the liberal who cannot support his claims to resort to the 1% arguement.

 

Yes, about 1% of the polulation does fit into your description, but we have existing programs to take care of these people.

 

I am talking about the 99% of the polulation that are "capable" but lazy, and you darn well know that is what I was talking about, but you have no comeback for that now do you?

 

Again, these people "CAN" do just like you did "IF THEY ARE MOTIVATED" but they choose not to......why should we support the lazy and unmotivated?

 

 

Your problem is you stereotype too many of your fellow countrymen as lazy, unmotivated, wanting to live off the system, and any other excuse you can think of to not have to help your fellow man. As for WHY SHOULD YOU have to pay? Well, simple answer, for the good of the pack.

 

The bold lion and the cunning wolf hunt in packs, they kill their prey, and other lion or wolf will come along and help eat and feast. The lion never rejects the person in the pack who didn't help catch they prey, why should we?

 

This self serving attitude of yours and many other conservatives MUST be a greed thing. It sure isn't a Christian thing because Jesus would NEVER approve of it. If you want to debate WHY SHOULD I DO THIS OR THAT. Don't ask me, ask Jesus, I'm betting he'll have the answer, and I'll bet even more, you'd rather not listen to that answer because it goes against the party line you like to tow.

 

In fact, as of late, EVERYTHING the Republicans want is something to tow the party line. Doesn't matter if you vote against your own well being. If it's the opposite of what the Democrats propose, it's what your for. If it's something Jesus would do, but is a Democrat plan, your against it anyway... just tow that line.... I'm looking forward to see how far it gets any of the Republican candidates in 2012'

 

Well I laughed a lot in that one there Bender.....are you not the guy who said religion is bad? Using your own arguement that you hate everything associated with religion then you should also hate charity, being as only religious morals lead to giving of yourself.

 

You have no clue what it means to be a Christian, but let me educate you, we still help others even with the oppressive taxes because no matter what the Government does, they will always mess it up. Christians run soup kitchens and food banks why..........

 

Why Bender?

 

The Government has welfare programs so why do private Christians have to feed millions of people every year here in America that are hungry and the Government cannot help?

 

Because the Government does not have a clue on how to do these things, they just toss money at problems hoping some of it sticks and helps. The same is true with this healthcare, they will waste 90% of the funds they take in and be happy about the waste because it comes with more power for them.

 

At the end of the day Liberals only want control over the masses and controlling your healthcare certainly fits that agenda.

[phreakwars]

Again with the Alex Jones analogy's.

 

Liberals only want control over the masses

 

You still haven't answered the question... now why would they want that Alex?

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[timesjoke]

You still haven't answered the question... now why would they want that Alex?

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Why does anyone want power Forrest? Or do you prefer Mr. Gump?

 

If you stopped pretending not to understand these things it would be easier........but that is your game right? Post a lot of fluff and meaningless comments to keep the discussion away from the areas you don't have answers for fight?

 

 

Similar to what Ali has in her sig, We are promised equal opportunity, not equal results.

[phreakwars]

Again, he doesn't answer the question. Always good about spreading the Alex Jones gospel of the government (specifically liberals) wanting to rule peoples lives, never have a reason for it, they just do. It's just become so much of a common GOP mantra talking point, it has no substance, it's just something to say to try and defend your already illogical reasoning.

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[timesjoke]

Again, he doesn't answer the question. Always good about spreading the Alex Jones gospel of the government (specifically liberals) wanting to rule peoples lives, never have a reason for it, they just do. It's just become so much of a common GOP mantra talking point, it has no substance, it's just something to say to try and defend your already illogical reasoning.

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I did answer the question, why do all people/groups want power?

 

Your a smart guy so now your just playing stupid.

 

 

Even the most well intentioned Liberal/socialist looking for this power feels it is the way to make their plans happen for a socialist Nation with some misguided notion that they can create the perfect daycare center for all people but they are few to be sure.

 

Some most likely even believe in the mentality that anyone with money must have stolen it from the "little guys" and not really earned it.

 

Most are wanting the control to secure their own future, once they have the socialist programs in place, the masses will be voting away their "free" goodies if they vote for anyone else.

 

This is all mostly about buying votes.

[phreakwars]

I did answer the question, why do all people/groups want power?

 

Your a smart guy so now your just playing stupid.

BLAH BLAH BLAH...

There is only one problem with your conspiracy theory. We have always frequently elected and rotated our representatives.

 

Is my rep Ben Nelson a part of this conspiracy? Of course it's Obama now, but what about the guy before him? Or the guy before him, and etc, etc? Are they a part of the Free masons? Do they belong to the NWO too?

 

Yeah, I'm a smart guy, but gee call me dumb, but I just don't see any democratically elected group out there who wants to enslave me. Republican or Democrat.

 

Yeah, I'm dumb, so what's the motivation for enslaving the people... power?

 

Yes, enslave all Americans for a 6 year term in the Senate... sure, sure...

 

What's the agenda of this tyrannic group? Who funds them? Who's the mastermind?

 

I have all kinds of questions about your idiotic claim.

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[timesjoke]

Again your a smart guy pretending to not know how it works so your questions are not really honest.

 

There is more to the game than any one player or single term of office. Thier socialist agenda is the point and their motivations are their own but include a lot of money and power, sometimes power is like a drug.

 

Does the crack addict want to become addicted? Does the addiction make sense to the person who is not addicted?

 

I remember my senior year in High School where we went to the State championships and made it to the final game. We up to that point were truly flying high and it felt good, almost like mini gods of our little world and winning the State championship was the goal to set our names in history.

 

We lost big time, it was a terrible blow to our egos and our pride but we had accomplished more than one other team in all of Florida so it was still something to be proud of.

 

Today I am still a school booster and want our team to win as much as possible even though I am not on the field.

 

Am I in some grand conspiracy to help my chosen team win?

 

 

 

The Liberals/socialists are not so much involved in a conspiracy as much as a tactic. Once people are enslaved by their need for Government to live their lives for them, it is easier for them to get their "team" in place to keep the entitlements flowing to the purchased voters because there is an understanding that the "other team" will try and take away entitlements.

[phreakwars]

Still wanna know who "THEY" are. So your not with the team anymore but you want them to win. So what are you doing to ensure the win? Cheering for them? OOHH big conspiracy there.

 

And no, I'm not pretending to not know how it works. I wanna know how it works. Analogy's of your high school days are not anything close to your conspiracy theory claims.

 

You don't just say "'THEY" are out to take over our lives and generalize who "THEY" are.

 

So can you even name one member of the "THEY" who are trying to enslave us? I wanna know who the key players are.

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[timesjoke]

Well we can run in circles with your pretended ignorance of how it works but that will get us nowhere.

 

My highschool example was how it works, each "season" there can be different and same players on the field, but the goal is always the same.

 

 

Today it is Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reed, etc...... in ten years the names will change but the objective will remain the same. Baby steps on the road to socialist agenda.

[RoyalOrleans]

Well we can run in circles with your pretended ignorance of how it works but that will get us nowhere.

 

My highschool example was how it works, each "season" there can be different and same players on the field, but the goal is always the same.

 

 

Today it is Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reed, etc...... in ten years the names will change but the objective will remain the same. Baby steps on the road to socialist agenda.

 

In eight to ten years, it will probably be the Republicans to introduce more soft-despotism. More of the same; more spending to get us out of this so-called mess and less attention to the swelling of the federal government.

[timesjoke]

In eight to ten years, it will probably be the Republicans to introduce more soft-despotism. More of the same; more spending to get us out of this so-called mess and less attention to the swelling of the federal government.

 

Certainly possible, I agree that many Republicans are no longer trying to be conservative and are instead almost Democrats in their out of control spending. The only real salvaging element with most of them is they still support State rights and that is one of my big things with Government.

 

I really wish a real conservative party can rebuild from the ashes, either taking back the Republican party or making a new party based on conservative values and not selling out our values just to try and appease the latest fads in government.

[phreakwars]

Today it is Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reed, etc.....

Oh, THESE are the people trying to enslave us, I see.

 

You are a fukking nut dude. Any elected official you don't like MUST be trying to enslave us? And, a few more years down the line, if say we happen to get another official you DO like... oh no, not them, they saved the fukking world.

 

What a complete crock of shiit. I'm supposed to believe that these people are somehow part of the elite underground of disidents who came from all corners of America to band together with the ideal of bringing us down to enslave us, that they have no motivation for wanting to help people. They want to fukking enslave us and ... and... and??? What? Make us work for the poor?

 

And again, I'm not pretending ignorance, I am ignorant, so explain it to me Alex. How does this all work? Enlighten me to the evils your delusional fukking mind thinks is happening.

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Hay I like Biden. He cracks me up.

[ImWithStupid]

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[timesjoke]

Oh, THESE are the people trying to enslave us, I see.

 

You are a fukking nut dude. Any elected official you don't like MUST be trying to enslave us? And, a few more years down the line, if say we happen to get another official you DO like... oh no, not them, they saved the fukking world.

 

What a complete crock of shiit. I'm supposed to believe that these people are somehow part of the elite underground of disidents who came from all corners of America to band together with the ideal of bringing us down to enslave us, that they have no motivation for wanting to help people. They want to fukking enslave us and ... and... and??? What? Make us work for the poor?

 

And again, I'm not pretending ignorance, I am ignorant, so explain it to me Alex. How does this all work? Enlighten me to the evils your delusional fukking mind thinks is happening.

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My name is not Alex first of all, try to get some of these thing straight, lol.

 

I am done on this line, I pointed it out very well for anyone with a basic understanding of english and politics, your feigned ignorance is no longer funny so I will leave it there.

 

 

I will close with a simple concept:

 

You either earn your way through life, or you don't.

[wez]

I will close with a simple concept:

 

You either earn your way through life, or you don't.

 

 

Really? What a f ckin' genius..

 

Funny thing about that is some people who don't live like Royalty by merely being born only to be oogled and admired by morons such as yourself because they have money.. others who earn their way through life live in squalor and struggle everyday doing essential jobs only to be called lazy welfare bums by morons such as yourself because they don't earn enough to pay for basic living expenses..

 

Either way.. you're a moron..

 

 

You've inspired me to mind boggling revelations..

 

 

You either breathe.. or you don't.

[phreakwars]

The commercial that makes TJ cry.

 

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[timesjoke]

Cry hell, is that what a liberal would do is the situation were reversed so you think that is what a Conservative would do?

 

No, we keep up the pressure, make our possitions known and offer our views anyway and when we are shown to be right and our predictions ring true, you guys are proven to be what we say you are.

 

Look at Canada, the liberals/socialists had a death grip on Canada but in recent years conservative leaders have been comming to the front because the people are tired of being ripped apart by people who claim to be "helping" them.

 

 

I do like the last part of your movie, they have nobody to blame now.

 

When Obama took office he ran on a lot of promises all based on knowing what the job was, it was lame to after the fact lean on the crutch of "I inherited" it. Of course he inherited the small part of it, that is what he was campaigning on to be able to fix. Obama has made it worse but is still crying about how he "inherited" this or that......well time to stop crying and be responsible.

 

Obama knew what the challenges were before taking office, he now has the power to do anything he wants to do. No more excuses. Everything that happens now is 100% his fault.

 

Obama thinks it is great having this unstoppable power?

 

Now the public knows he has limitless power, so if he does not produce fast and great results, the public might just decide to hold him accountable because before he had excuses, now he does not.

[phreakwars]

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[timesjoke]

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Back at you big guy, when your crying from all the "I told you so" comments from people like me when your guy falls flat on his face in utter failure.