Palin to resign as Alaska governor

[emkay64]

I never did say to sell her home...I think 12 million on a home was premature given where she is politically...although now that you mention it...I actually think she could downsize. So yes...a smaller home is a fantastic idea TJ. Thanks for bringing it to light. If she ends up on the streets, well...that's just too fukkin bad...sounds like poor management to me.

[Chi]

Bender,

 

In one example you have something outside their control, a medical issue that was not expected. In the other you have the ability to stop the downward spiral just by letting go of pride.....an easy decision for me..

 

How about going the route of a healthcare system that will help you not go to a downward spiral when something unexpected happens? How about that? Stop with the hypocritical double-standard. We're unto you. And since when is getting taken to court expected?? Unless you know you're doing stuff you aren't supposed to be doing - hmm??

 

 

Chi, Emkay did say that Sarah had a 12 million dollar home to help her pay for her legal fees, you seemed to agree. Don't try to dodge that comment now..

 

Please, it's sad you being persistent with that. Admit you were wrong, grasping for straws and lied already. She told you herself she didn't say that, we can all see she didn't say that and I certainly did not agree with something she never said. How could I have?

 

Oh, and I never dodge anything, I might miss something but I never dodge anything intentionally. If I miss something just remind me and I will gladly answer.

 

Really? In this post alone:

 

I'd like to see all these fake claims. Where and what are all of these fake claims, TJ?

 

Why the hell would I volunteer to pay that lady's legal fees or any other stranger's?

 

Hm, maybe these are some of the 'frivilous' lawsuits that are being brought against her?

 

Also, did she ever return the 150 grand worth of clothes she bought during the campaigning with McCain??

 

The woman has money to throw away on useless crap like overpriced designer clothes, but is not willing to, to defend herself?

[timesjoke]

Medical Bills, legal bills, same thing. Just like people aren't expecting to get sick, people don't expect to get sued. The only difference is the medical bill problem is on a mass scale.

 

The point your refusing to address is you can't just stop cancer, the legal bills can be stopped if you let go of the pride.

 

How much is your pride worth Bender?

 

 

 

How about going the route of a healthcare system that will help you not go to a downward spiral when something unexpected happens? How about that? Stop with the hypocritical double-standard. We're unto you. And since when is getting taken to court expected?? Unless you know you're doing stuff you aren't supposed to be doing - hmm??

 

Wow, too many things wrong with that lumped together madness.

 

Staying on topic we can follow trends and see where one fake claim follows another. Sometimes you can see a trend and then you have to make a decision to stay doing the same thing and gettng the same results or just make a change.

 

 

Please, it's sad you being persistent with that. Admit you were wrong, grasping for straws and lied already. She told you herself she didn't say that, we can all see she didn't say that and I certainly did not agree with something she never said. How could I have?

 

Your now telling lies, not me. She just said it again, that Sarah should downgrade to pay for her legal bills. That is what she said and what she meant.

 

 

Really? In this post alone:

 

I'd like to see all these fake claims. Where and what are all of these fake claims, TJ?

 

From the same link we are talking about, click the link.

 

 

Why the hell would I volunteer to pay that lady's legal fees or any other stranger's?

 

Because your saying she should fight even if she does not have the funds so if your imposing that action on her then you should help pay for it. It is easy to say she should fight when your not the one paying millions of dollars to do so.

 

Hm, maybe these are some of the 'frivilous' lawsuits that are being brought against her?

 

Was that a question or an answer? Seemed to lack direction to me. You spoke about her costing money but you never mentioned how Sarah saved the State millions through things like getting rid of her private jet the State was paying to maintain for the previous Govenor.

 

Also, did she ever return the 150 grand worth of clothes she bought during the campaigning with McCain??

 

I don't know anything about clothes, and don't care either.

 

The woman has money to throw away on useless crap like overpriced designer clothes, but is not willing to, to defend herself?

 

And Mrs. Obama wearing $600 sneekers to volunteer at a soup kitchen is better?

 

I believe there is a huge difference between spending a grand for some glasses and spending a million dollars on legal fees. The cloths can be reused over and over again. The money spent defending against false claims is lost forever.......

 

 

Besides, one is by choice, the other is not. Should anyone who has purchased something "YOU" believe is overpriced be suddenly subjected to massive legal bills? They deserve to lose everything just because they have nicer clothes then you do?

[snafu]

Volunteer to pay her legal fees?

 

That's an asinine question! She's saying if she has nothing to hide she should fight. Politics always have a lot of intense personal scrutinizing. If she can't handle it...it's a good thing she's getting out. No one needs someone who bails when things get a little warm. She may have legal fees in around 1 million dollars, but she also has a 12 million dollar home. Perhaps she shouldn't be living so large already.

 

Haha there isn't a a home in all of Alaska that cost that much. try 500,000.

[timesjoke]

Haha there isn't a a home in all of Alaska that cost that much. try 500,000.

 

Well......I thought Emkay had done some research and knew what she was saying, you mean she just made that number up?

[Chi]

Wow, too many things wrong with that lumped together madness.

 

Staying on topic we can follow trends and see where one fake claim follows another. Sometimes you can see a trend and then you have to make a decision to stay doing the same thing and gettng the same results or just make a change.

Try to make sense, man!

 

 

Your now telling lies, not me. She just said it again, that Sarah should downgrade to pay for her legal bills. That is what she said and what she meant..

 

Incorrect. She said that for the first time, not again. Lie #3.

 

From the same link we are talking about, click the link...

I will not click the link. Answer the question.

 

Because your saying she should fight even if she does not have the funds so if your imposing that action on her then you should help pay for it. It is easy to say she should fight when your not the one paying millions of dollars to do so.

She has the funds, we have already gone through this. Nice salary = her Nice salary = her husband, has equity in house, has enough money to splurge on unecessary expensive crap, yadda, yadda.

 

 

Was that a question or an answer? Seemed to lack direction to me. You spoke about her costing money but you never mentioned how Sarah saved the State millions through things like getting rid of her private jet the State was paying to maintain for the previous Govenor.

Yeah what intellect on her part, he was no longer governor. She tried to sell it on ebay unsuccessfully and then lost hundreds of thousands of dollars by selling it for much less than it was worth. I'm sure she only sold it because it must not have been big enough to fly her, her daughters, their friends and whoever else around... This one surely was (fits about 100 people aboard) - Tucson-based company delivers campaign jet to Palin | www.azstarnet.com ?

 

I don't know anything about clothes, and don't care either.

Of course not. Not in this instance when it's convenient.

 

 

And Mrs. Obama wearing $600 sneekers to volunteer at a soup kitchen is better? I believe there is a huge difference between spending a grand for some glasses and spending a million dollars on legal fees. The cloths can be reused over and over again. The money spent defending against false claims is lost forever.......Besides, one is by choice, the other is not. Should anyone who has purchased something "YOU" believe is overpriced be suddenly subjected to massive legal bills? They deserve to lose everything just because they have nicer clothes then you do?[/

It's not only better, but makes a huge difference when someone (like Michelle) is wasting such ridiculous amounts of THEIR own money -vs- tax payers money like Sarah Palin. Your own -vs- others/the state's = big difference.

[snafu]

Palin House:Sarah Palin?s House Built For Free? - Palin house is the drama of the day.The Palin family has a house worth $552,000 that is causing a bit of controversy. Palin house is located at Lake Lucille.It is a two-story, four bedroom, four bath home and ?Todd Palin said that he built the house with friends who were contractors.?But reports claim that the house was actually built by the Spenard Builders Supply that was hired for the $12.5 million Wasilla Sports Complex.To make a long story short Palin made Spenard Builders Supply build her house in order for them to obtain the big Sports Complex contract.

That?s all we have for now on Palin House:Sarah Palin?s House Built For Free?

 

 

Emkay was mistaken...

 

And I call bull . Spenard Builders are only a supply company. They also use contractors.

[emkay64]

Well......I thought Emkay had done some research and knew what she was saying, you mean she just made that number up?

 

Heehee.....I did! The sports complex cost 12 million. You sure got all bent though! How fun! 1000 points to Snaf for catching me! TJ doesn't believe anything that doesn't fit his warped agenda so....look forward to more lies and mind fukks TJ. You are so frikkin easy!

[hugo]

I screwed Sarah last week in a cheap hotel room in Bogata. She gives a lousy blowjob.

[snafu]

This is the same crap they went threw with Ted Stevens in which lost him the Senate seat but was later exonerated.

[hugo]

I never screwed Ted, Snafu is lying.

[emkay64]

This is the same crap they went threw with Ted Stevens in which lost him the Senate seat but was later exonerated.

 

Honestly I don't think she's done anything wrong. I think it's classic political mudslinging. Just too bad she can't take it. Politics cannot be her arena if her skin is so soft. She needs to leather up a bit lol.

[timesjoke]

Try to make sense, man!

 

Makes perfect sense, to those willing to pay attention

 

 

 

Incorrect. She said that for the first time, not again. Lie #3.

 

She said the the first time, the second time, and now it turns out her claim the house was worth 12 million was also a lie......lie, after lie, is your little world, not mine.

 

I will not click the link. Answer the question.

 

If your too lazy I can't help you, click the link if your curious, otherwise your just looking for any excuse to be negative.

 

 

She has the funds, we have already gone through this. Nice salary = her Nice salary = her husband, has equity in house, has enough money to splurge on unecessary expensive crap, yadda, yadda.

 

Okay, being as you claim she has plenty of money then prove it. Give us the numbers of her salary, the husbands salary and compare it to the million dollar cost so far.

 

The President makes $400,000 and even that is not enough to pay these kinds of legal fees.

 

 

Yeah what intellect on her part, he was no longer governor. She tried to sell it on ebay unsuccessfully and then lost hundreds of thousands of dollars by selling it for much less than it was worth. I'm sure she only sold it because it must not have been big enough to fly her, her daughters, their friends and whoever else around...

 

And your lack of giving her any credit where it is due is why everything you say is clearly based on your dislike of her and not anything else.

 

Those pretty girls who have great lives just piss you off right?

 

 

Of course not. Not in this instance when it's convenient.

 

I am a guy, I do not care about clothes, only women are stuck on clothing. Your jealous, I get it.

 

It's not only better, but makes a huge difference when someone (like Michelle) is wasting such ridiculous amounts of THEIR own money -vs- tax payers money like Sarah Palin. Your own -vs- others/the state's = big difference.

 

So now anyone who is paid from tax money is not spending their own money?

 

 

So when Obama spent $250,000 taxpayer dollars to take Michelle on a date to new york, how do you see that?

[emkay64]

"So when Obama spent $250,000 taxpayer dollars to take Michelle on a date to new york, how do you see that?"

 

My guess is you're jealous? Extreme penis envy? You're an enigma TJ.

[snafu]

I never screwed Ted, Snafu is lying.

 

Well somebody did I think we need a DNA sample from you:D We can match it up to the rape kit.

[timesjoke]

"So when Obama spent $250,000 taxpayer dollars to take Michelle on a date to new york, how do you see that?"

 

My guess is you're jealous? Extreme penis envy? You're an enigma TJ.

 

Now who is dodging.

 

You said Sarah spending tax payer money to buy personal designer clothes was bad, well how about blowing $250,000 tax payer dollars on one evening for a date? Obama is spending a lot more tax money on personal entertainment and junk then Sarah could ever dream of spending but for some reason you call her spending bad.......why is her lower spending bad but Obama's much greater spending good?

 

At least Sarah spent her money from her paycheck, Obama is spending money over and above his paycheck.

 

 

 

I am just asking for some balanced playing field from you and others. You can't call her money spent from her own paycheck as bad.

 

 

 

 

By the way, why did you lie about how much Sarah's home is worth?

 

It seems to me your the one who is jealous.

[emkay64]

Now who is dodging.

 

You said Sarah spending tax payer money to buy personal designer clothes was bad, well how about blowing $250,000 tax payer dollars on one evening for a date? Obama is spending a lot more tax money on personal entertainment and junk then Sarah could ever dream of spending but for some reason you call her spending bad.......why is her lower spending bad but Obama's much greater spending good?

 

At least Sarah spent her money from her paycheck, Obama is spending money over and above his paycheck.

 

 

 

I am just asking for some balanced playing field from you and others. You can't call her money spent from her own paycheck as bad.

 

 

 

 

By the way, why did you lie about how much Sarah's home is worth?

 

It seems to me your the one who is jealous.

 

"You said Sarah spending tax payer money to buy personal designer clothes was bad"

 

I never said that Chi did lol.

 

I lied because you can't be objective where she is concerned or for anything that doesn't back your claims TJ, and you assume I'm lying anyways. I've already said I have no issue with Sara...I said I doubt she has done anything wrong. The only thing I've said is that it's kinda disappointing she has backed down so easy.

 

Just as I've said I don't doubt the supreme court articles. I'm sure they may be true for some people. You are always going to hear about problems because happy health care stories don't sell newspapers. I told you about my personal experience...and said mine did not reflect that of the supreme court and neither have I had these complaints from family and friends. Because it doesn't back your government articles I must be lying.

 

There is no hope in having any kind of rationale with you. I may as well lie. Your buttons are so easy to push. Your best argument is that I'm jealous. I'm just going with the flow. I don't want your approval so it's fun to play with you in the mean time. You use so many "personal experiences" to back your arguments...i thought it was fair game...my mistake.

 

Anyways this all so redundant. I'm getting bored as I'm sure everyone else is. I can't keep saying the same thing over and over. Comprehension escapes you...I'm guessing Altzheimers?

[timesjoke]

"You said Sarah spending tax payer money to buy personal designer clothes was bad"

 

I never said that Chi did lol.

 

Your right, my mistake, that was Chi, you just said she didn't deserve a nice home so she should take a step down.

 

I lied because you can't be objective where she is concerned or for anything that doesn't back your claims TJ, and you assume I'm lying anyways. I've already said I have no issue with Sara...I said I doubt she has done anything wrong. The only thing I've said is that it's kinda disappointing she has backed down so easy.

 

Just as I've said I don't doubt the supreme court articles. I'm sure they may be true for some people. You are always going to hear about problems because happy health care stories don't sell newspapers. I told you about my personal experience...and said mine did not reflect that of the supreme court and neither have I had these complaints from family and friends. Because it doesn't back your government articles I must be lying.

 

There is no hope in having any kind of rationale with you. I may as well lie. Your buttons are so easy to push. Your best argument is that I'm jealous. I'm just going with the flow. I don't want your approval so it's fun to play with you in the mean time. You use so many "personal experiences" to back your arguments...i thought it was fair game...my mistake.

 

Oh bull. Trying to tie in your lack in the medical debate is just childish. I had the facts, you had nothign but one person's experience. You cannot expect me to toss out all that data proving your wrong just because "YOU" say the suppreme court was wrong. If you want to discuss this go back to that thread and don't derail this one.

 

 

 

You said Sarah deserved to be taken down and she should not have a 12 million dollar home, that has nothing to do with me Emkay. I cannot make you post a lie, trying to say you lie because someone expects you to lie is just foolish.

 

 

I am not Mangiafuoco.

 

 

You do what you do, but at least you did admit to being a liar.

 

 

 

 

 

Emkay,

 

These kinds of discussions require a ceretain level of detachment and discussing "general" truths. You see to make everything personal and ignore the general truths for limited and rare personal observations. This is where we clash.

 

I will not ignore the facts and studies of the general discussion while you seem incapable of even seeing the studies. Hell you even claim they were never done if they do not agree with you as if there is a huge conspiracy to make you look bad or something.

[emkay64]

"You said Sarah deserved to be taken down and she should not have a 12 million dollar home"

 

Never said that lol...again...where did I say she deserved to be taken down! That's harsh. I never said she didn't deserve a multimillion dollar home I said a smaller one would suffice to cover bills, but that is moot isn't it? lol.

 

Find me those direct quotes....all of them...and be real verbose...because I do love seeing your epic responses!

[timesjoke]

Perhaps she shouldn't be living so large already.

 

 

I never did say to sell her home...I think 12 million on a home was premature given where she is politically...although now that you mention it...I actually think she could downsize. So yes...a smaller home is a fantastic idea TJ. Thanks for bringing it to light. If she ends up on the streets, well...that's just too fukkin bad...sounds like poor management to me.

 

First of all you played the 12 mil number very hard.

 

Your point was clear, why do you think she is "living so large"?

 

Large compared to who? You? Why is the way she lives or the amount her home is worth relivant to is someone should be crippled with unfair legal fees or not?

 

Do you believe the "rich" deserve anything that happens to them?

 

Or just her?

[emkay64]

Hmmm...those quotes do NOT reflect what you said I said...try again

[timesjoke]

Hmmm...those quotes do NOT reflect what you said I said...try again

 

Yes they do, as I told Chi, too late to try and reshuffle the deck.

 

Your need to lie about the worth of Sarah's home just adds to the fact that you were attacking her prosperity and saying she should not have what she has.

 

 

But again, why were you saying that?

 

 

Why are you jealous?

[hugo]

Sarah was a big spending liberal whose main claim to fame was taxing production, and eliminating jobs, so she could give every Alaskan a welfare check. Off with her head.

[emkay64]

Your need to lie about the worth of Sarah's home just adds to the fact that you were attacking her prosperity and saying she should not have what she has.

 

 

Oh TJ....

 

My lie was a little experiment at your expense. Sadly you didn't surprise me at all. Maybe next time puts on lab coat and glasses ....

 

So teste....I thought you liked "experiments".

[mercury]

I do, and why not, you believe people should sell their homes to pay for medical care. Remember in your own words. She can start over and rebuild.

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I do, too. I had to sell a ton of my sh!t to take care of my family... We're still kicking. We're still a family. We still have a home (we just don't own the structure). A life is more than a 12 million dollar house and just because you can't keep the 12 million dollar house IN the family doesn't mean you have failed at taking care of your family.

 

What's more important? Protecting the ownership of a pile of lumber and nails that's been valued at 12 million dollars? Or preserving the reputation, which provides for 12 million dollar homes for her family?? I'd vote for the reputation... I'm sure that house still carries a hefty mortgage and sucks up a lot of resources, which may not be able to be paid once her reputation is dragged through the mud.