Budget deficit tops $1 trillion for first time

[ImWithStupid]

There are many threads on here about alleged programs that were eventually proved to be GOP lies and myths. So what are these CURRENT socialist programs that are being implemented right now as we type, be specific.

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I have gone over this time and time again on here. Find the posts yourself.

 

 

You obviously don't really read what is force fed to you so I refuse to do it again.

 

Happy hunting.

[phreakwars]

In other words, you can ramble on about all these alleged social programs that Obama is secretly implementing to screw the tax payers and enslave us and what have you, but you can't name a specific program that is currently being implemented so you'd rather tell me to go chase shadows of the past and find them.

 

Sorry but if there are such a thing as these socialist programs happening Fox News would have been all over that by now cutting it down instead of insinuating that "those evil liberals are scheming against America with this evil socialist plan". I'm just asking a very simple question, so what is this socialist program that is now in place. I don't need to look to see which "ALLEGED" social program was rumored to be happening. The proof is in the pudding, so surely you can name just one program of Obama's that is in place at this moment that is socialist.

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[phreakwars]

Here, I'll help ya get a head start on next week's complaint/conspiracy about the President.

 

PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

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[ImWithStupid]

In other words, you can ramble on about all these alleged social programs that Obama is secretly implementing to screw the tax payers and enslave us and what have you, but you can't name a specific program that is currently being implemented so you'd rather tell me to go chase shadows of the past and find them.

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No. In other words I already went over this back in February and explained all this when the Spedulous bill was a news topic and you only could spout this and that about obstructionist this and obstructionist that, and really didn't pay attention to what was said, because it was all spelled out for you then.

 

Of course by your own admission, you don't know much about politics, so I shouldn't be surprised.

 

By the way. Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't live and die by Fox News talking points like you do with MSNBC, HuffPo and Daily Kos, so I wouldn't have a clue what is or isn't said on there.

 

Oh yea, one more time that you tried to claim I said something I didn't say. At what point did I even mention the word "socialist".

 

Keep up the good work. You'll make it from the Daily Kos to a Keith Overbite writer yet.

[ImWithStupid]

Here, I'll help ya get a head start on next week's complaint/conspiracy about the President.

 

PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

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One more post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand but is some kind of left wing talking point, jab.

[phreakwars]

Still can't name that program, can ya.

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[ImWithStupid]

Still can't name that program, can ya.

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You mean name them "again" because I've already gone over this. The biggest one is health care, but there is all the "green" projects that are proving to be back ended.

 

Did you even look at the definition of stimulus? I bet not.

 

The president lied. Nothing about the "stimulus" bill was meant to imediately help the economy and dolts like you and your blind following ilk fell for it when people like myself said back in February it wasn't going to do what the lying president and his minions said and it has proven to be just as people like myself said. Not effective and not because it was a mistake but because it was never meant to do what they convinced people like yourself it would do.

 

Any buyers remorse from you sheeple yet? Acutally it's growing like a friggin' wild fire among those who can honestly admit it.

 

I get the feeling you don't fall in that category yet.

[phreakwars]

And your right, I'm dumb when it comes to politics, so enlighten me. I mean, I've heard all the complaints about all this big spending and you DID say:

 

I would so, love to hold your hand on this one and if I must I will. First look up the definition of "stimulus", then look at your own post that only 10% of the money has been spent and it's mostly back ended to fund programs that don't stimulate the economy, but support secular progressive programs, and try to put 2 & 2 together and figure out the cartoon.

So OK, the word socialist isn't there. So what are these secular progressive programs your so against that are happening now... There that better? I even quoted you this time so you can't deny you said it. My reference to you saying things about socialist programs, is your commentary in the past about this and that alleged evil the Democrats are plotting. So what are these secular progressive programs that are now in place? School me.

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[RoyalOrleans]

This is how your federal government believes we are going to get this economy back on track. It wants to spend stimulus money on preventing homelessness. Yes, seriously. That would be another $1.5 billion of your tax dollars to be distributed to communities around the country for the purpose of preventing homelessness. Here are some examples of projects that are being funded. You take a look and tell me if you think these are the people that you are going to be looking for when you need your next pay check.

 

?Fresno, California will be given $1 million to dismantle tent cities and move resident's into privately owned apartments.

?A nonprofit in eastern Idaho hopes to apply its stimulus funds toward one-time payments for rent or mortgages to those on the verge of losing their homes.

?Stockton, California plans to buy foreclosed houses and renovate them as affordable housing.

?Franklin County, Pa., will use stimulus money to help families with back rent and utilities, moving costs, short-term storage and credit repair.

?In Reading, Pa., a coalition for the homeless plans to provide short-term rent aid and landlord-tenant mediation to prevent evictions.

Now ... do you have any questions as to why this wonderful Obama generated stimulus program isn't working? How in the world does tearing down a tent city stimulate our economy?

 

You're starting to get a clue as to why Barack's approval rating is heading steadily down, aren't you?

[timesjoke]

By the way, what tax cut were you talking about Bender?

 

The one where people who were already not paying taxes got more free money?

 

Reductions to people who already pay no tax is a sham move. Giving out a "free check" is more welfare.

[phreakwars]

This is how your federal government believes we are going to get this economy back on track.

 

•Fresno, California will be given $1 million to dismantle tent cities and move resident's into privately owned apartments.

•A nonprofit in eastern Idaho hopes to apply its stimulus funds toward one-time payments for rent or mortgages to those on the verge of losing their homes.

•Stockton, California plans to buy foreclosed houses and renovate them as affordable housing.

•Franklin County, Pa., will use stimulus money to help families with back rent and utilities, moving costs, short-term storage and credit repair.

•In Reading, Pa., a coalition for the homeless plans to provide short-term rent aid and landlord-tenant mediation to prevent evictions.

Now ... do you have any questions as to why this wonderful Obama generated stimulus program isn't working? How in the world does tearing down a tent city stimulate our economy?

 

You're starting to get a clue as to why Barack's approval rating is heading steadily down, aren't you?

 

So which of these plans for the stimulus are actually being implemented at this very moment? I just read where they want to use it for these things... has it ACTUALLY been used for these things?

 

Until it is, that is just hearsay and rumor.

 

By the way, what tax cut were you talking about Bender?

 

The one where people who were already not paying taxes got more free money?

 

Reductions to people who already pay no tax is a sham move. Giving out a "free check" is more welfare.

I see you never read the stimulus plan either Alex. It is published online in PDF for free ya know Mr. Jones.

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[timesjoke]

 

I see you never read the stimulus plan either Alex. It is published online in PDF for free ya know Mr. Jones.

 

lol, well being as not one Democrat read it before they signed it why should anyone else?

 

But yes I have read it and there is no "real" tax break in there.

 

 

Obama calls tax credits a tax reduction but by definition a tax is something that a person pays out of their pocket to support the functions of the Government. Almost all of the people who qualify for the tax credits pay no or little tax and those who do pay some tax take more out of the system than they pay in so even then they are not paying any taxes once the scale is applied to compare what they pay to what they use.

 

I see as usual you turn to name calling when you don't have facts, lol.

[phreakwars]

I don't have facts? And your the one saying:

 

Almost all of the people who qualify for the tax credits pay no or little tax

State your case there Alex. So which line on the Stimulus says/gives that? You said you have read it after all.

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[timesjoke]

That is true, most of the people who get these tax credits already pay little or no tax. That is not to say there are not exceptions, just that the majority are already not paying taxes. Do you really not understand that concept?

 

And my name is times or even Louis, any question using a different name will be ignored from now on. You would ban me if I was just as disrespectful as your being with the name calling. Your need to use insulting names proves you know your wrong.

[phreakwars]

That is true, most of the people who get these tax credits already pay little or no tax. That is not to say there are not exceptions, just that the majority are already not paying taxes. Do you really not understand that concept?

Sure I understand the concept, it's just not an accurate assessment. So back up what your saying. You can't and you know it. Just more fear and paranoia talking points that have no real merit. So come on, show me that line that gives all these freebies out like your claiming. Here I'll help ya out.

 

ReadTheStimulus.org

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[timesjoke]

No, you like to play stupid, just like when you claim Republicans have never offered their own ideas for things but I have seen IWS post over and over again alternative bills that you simply ignore and keep claiming they do not exist.

 

 

One example in the stimulus there is a one time payment of $250 to those on ssi and pensions. To qualify you had to be on one of these things by the end of 2008.

[phreakwars]

So show me that line, you say it's in there, shouldn't be hard to find.

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[timesjoke]

So show me that line, you say it's in there, shouldn't be hard to find.

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Your right, it is not hard so go find it. I would think you would want to be informed on these things. You have a link, go read. As IWS pointed out, at the time the thing was big news all sorts of these things from the bill were laid out clearly but now your pretending to never have heard about these things.

 

 

You play stupid too often to take you serious, you just try to push it far enough people give up with your silly denials of plain fact.

 

 

Well the payout I just mentioned did happen, I know hundreds of people who have showed me their check. Two people I know have the check in a frame with a newspaper headline talking aobut how much their $250.00 check cost the American taxpayer.

[phreakwars]

Your right, it is not hard so go find it. I would think you would want to be informed on these things. You have a link, go read. As IWS pointed out, at the time the thing was big news all sorts of these things from the bill were laid out clearly but now your pretending to never have heard about these things.

 

 

You play stupid too often to take you serious, you just try to push it far enough people give up with your silly denials of plain fact.

 

 

Well the payout I just mentioned did happen, I know hundreds of people who have showed me their check. Two people I know have the check in a frame with a newspaper headline talking aobut how much their $250.00 check cost the American taxpayer.

But your sooo much smarter then I am, you even scooped me by knowing all about this nasty wasteful spending that I'm too stupid to realize. I'm sure glad there's people like you to set me straight, you have obviously went over everything with a fine tooth comb while my feeble minds sits in denial. So man, you would think someone that claims to know all about this and claim I'm the dummy would AT LEAST be able to reference this complaint somewhere on the actual stimulus.

 

I mean, your so strongly opposed to it, I would think you'd be able to tell me which page, which paragraph, everything I need to know and claim your well deserved victory over an idiot like me.

 

Like I told IWS.... SCHOOL ME. You obviously know all about it.

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[RoyalOrleans]

So which of these plans for the stimulus are actually being implemented at this very moment? I just read where they want to use it for these things... has it ACTUALLY been used for these things?

 

Until it is, that is just hearsay and rumor.

 

Well... let's just say I know a guy who knows this other guy who has a cousin in Oregon that received stimulus money to open an emu farm.

 

This guy happens to be Caribbean, too, with a red beard. He got him some stimulus money for being the sole Irish Caribbean emu farmer in the States.

 

Look... as much as it is all hearsay (heresy???) and bullsh!t, the fact that Obama is on the record as saying that there wouldn't be any pork in the INCREDIBLE GOATFUKK SPENDULOUS SWINDLE OF 2009, there was enough pork roasting in a pit to feed every fukken luau on Maui to Damned-if-I-know.

[phreakwars]

Well... let's just say I know a guy who knows this other guy who has a cousin in Oregon that received stimulus money to open an emu farm.

 

This guy happens to be Caribbean, too, with a red beard. He got him some stimulus money for being the sole Irish Caribbean emu farmer in the States.

 

Look... as much as it is all hearsay (heresy???) and bullsh!t, the fact that Obama is on the record as saying that there wouldn't be any pork in the INCREDIBLE GOATFUKK SPENDULOUS SWINDLE OF 2009, there was enough pork roasting in a pit to feed every fukken luau on Maui to Damned-if-I-know.

Yep, there sure as hell was, don't deny it. But it wasn't pork included into the stimulus, it wasn't as simple as a state going "OH I GET SOME MONEY, I'M GONNA DO THIS AND THAT AND THAT" If you think about it, that's partly the reason the stimulus is taking so long to get spent. Trying to sort out pet projects to actual economic stimulation. There sure were alot of big time pork dreams going through a few heads, both parties, and that was expected. But you need to get back to reality and understand just because such and such was boasting they wanna do this or that with the money, doesn't mean they are gonna get that money for their own personal toys.

 

NONE OF YA, have listed a currently running pet project from the stimulus, the reason being... THERE ARE NONE.

 

So from now on people, please, try complaining after the fact instead of fear mongering things that haven't happen. Quit being so negative.

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[RoyalOrleans]

Yep, there sure as hell was, don't deny it. But it wasn't pork included into the stimulus, it wasn't as simple as a state going "OH I GET SOME MONEY, I'M GONNA DO THIS AND THAT AND THAT" If you think about it, that's partly the reason the stimulus is taking so long to get spent. Trying to sort out pet projects to actual economic stimulation. There sure were alot of big time pork dreams going through a few heads, both parties, and that was expected. But you need to get back to reality and understand just because such and such was boasting they wanna do this or that with the money, doesn't mean they are gonna get that money for their own personal toys.

 

Then why include it in the bill?

 

Quit being so negative.

 

Hello Kettle.

[phreakwars]

They weren't included into the bill. Oh, that's right, I forgot, the Republicans never got a chance to actually read it. What they did have a chance to do with it, is skim through it and make up boogeyman horror stories about it. Sometimes I REALLY wonder how they come up with all these crazy notions about the stimulus, and also claim they never had a chance to read it. If you put two and two together, it makes perfect sense. Not only did they NOT read it, they never even tried. It's just easier to make up false talking points about something you've never read to your constituents.

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[phreakwars]

Be positive, support this, it's OUR taxpayer money, we should get the option to buy the stock.

 

OH NO, A HUFF POST link

House Dems To Geithner: Stop Backroom Deals With Wall Street

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[timesjoke]

Bender,

 

The "free checks" I mentioned did get paid out, the problem with the bill is it is so huge reading through thousands of pages to extract one section is close to impossible.

 

Remember, that was the reason Obama ordered them to sign it without reading it because America needed help right away to keep unemployment from rising above 8%.

 

The spending promised in the stimulus bill is still mostly not happening, I give you that much, but the programs that are promised are still included in the Bill and there is talk about a second stimulus bill, even pelosi has talked about it being possible.

 

If these projects are not going to be funded by the stimulus, then why not simply redirect the funds to where it is needed instead of talking about a second stimulus?