Obama remark on black scholar's arrest angers cops

[timesjoke]

I don't give him any credit because his appology was only half way and at the end of everything he had to change the meaning of all his words by saying this:

 

"Because of our history...African Americans are sensitive to these issues."

 

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

 

This black man is staff at Harvard right? He has nothing to complain about. Obama has nothing to complain about, only in America can both these men enjoy these kinds of freedoms to succeed from nothing and still hate their own Country and put her down every chance they get.

 

Obama is no different then anyone else who plays the race card every time they turn around. Obama used the race card over and over again during his campaign to effectively stop all meaningful debate with him and he is using it now to excuse behavoir that is inexcusable by his good friend.

[eddo]

I don't give him any credit because his appology was only half way

 

as a not much of an Obama fan myself, I gotta ask:

 

Were you on the phone call between the cop and Obama? How do you know Obama only gave "half an apology?"

 

Obama's comment was stupid, but as many have pointed out- Bush said all kinds of stupid stuff. I thought it was stupid to overly- critique Bush's mis-speaks, and I think it's equally as stupid to do it to Obama.

 

Should he have said it? No.

 

Has he behaved in overtly racist actions that would lead one to believe that he is a racist at heart and therefore shouldn't be leading our country? No again.

 

Is it the end of the world because of what Obama said? Not even close.

 

Hell, I would be overly satisfied if Obama learns nothing more than to say "Ya know, I really don't know all about that situation, so I shouldn't comment" line from this. More people need to learn that line.

[Ahhlee]

as a not much of an Obama fan myself, I gotta ask:

 

Were you on the phone call between the cop and Obama? How do you know Obama only gave "half an apology?"

 

Obama's comment was stupid, but as many have pointed out- Bush said all kinds of stupid stuff. I thought it was stupid to overly- critique Bush's mis-speaks, and I think it's equally as stupid to do it to Obama.

 

Should he have said it? No.

 

Has he behaved in overtly racist actions that would lead one to believe that he is a racist at heart and therefore shouldn't be leading our country? No again.

 

Is it the end of the world because of what Obama said? Not even close.

 

Hell, I would be overly satisfied if Obama learns nothing more than to say "Ya know, I really don't know all about that situation, so I shouldn't comment" line from this. More people need to learn that line.

 

And after all, he's "only human".

[eddo]

And after all, he's "only human".

 

 

BLASPHEMY!!!!

 

[ImWithStupid]

The misconception here is that he "just said a dumb thing like Bush did".

 

When Bush had his line about ob/gyn's practicing their love with women, nobody was put in danger. I doubt that women quit going to their doctor because they were worried that he was going to have sex with them.

 

The problem I have is the negative effects it has already had on police just trying to do their jobs.

 

I personally have been accused, during traffic stops of stopping the vehicle because the person was black or Hispanic (the fact that they were going 80 in a 65 zone wasn't a factor in their race baiting minds).

 

Several of these times were at night in a car that passed my on the other side of a four lane divided highway. I told them that I didn't even know if it was a dog driving, let alone what color the driver was.

 

It is reinforcing that all you have to do is cry racism, then you get off and if this cop gets sued and sued successfully, what cop in his right mind will even want to do his job?

 

Like I said cops are already getting the line from people that the President said they didn't have to cooperate with the police.

 

It's dangerous, both to cops and civilians.

[eddo]

That is a valid point IWS, and one that you see more than I do.

[phreakwars]

I have watched IWS post bill after bill proving that they are doing a lot more than just complain but you wear your blinders and refuse to let yourself see anything but what you want to see.

 

 

Do you know what the difference is in HR3200 and the Republican plan?

 

The party who is proposing it. The wording is slightly different, but it's the same damn plan. Neither of which, are worth 2 shiits. They BOTH cater to Insurance companies and big pharma.

 

So yes, I think the Republican plan is crap, just as much as I think the Democrat plan is crap. Both sides suck the lobbyist balls and neither gives a damn about the concerns of American citizens.

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[hugo]

So yes, I think the Republican plan is crap, just as much as I think the Democrat plan is crap. Both sides suck the lobbyist balls and neither gives a damn about the concerns of American citizens.

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Two damn commie partys.

[ImWithStupid]

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[ImWithStupid]

Obama's 'Recalibrated' Insult

 

By Jan LaRue

 

An apology it wasn't. After igniting a firestorm of criticism for racially profiling a white cop during Wednesday night's nationally televised press conference on "healthcare," President Barack Obama stammered his way through a statement on Friday afternoon:

"Because this has been ratcheting up and I helped contribute to ratcheting it up, I want to make clear that in my choice of words I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sgt. Crowley specifically and I could have calibrated those words differently."

Obama's statement Friday followed closely after several Cambridge area police unions held a press conference criticizing Obama and demanding his apology:

Whatever may be the history, we deeply resent the implications and reject any suggestion that in this case or any other case that they've allowed a person's race to direct their activities. However we hope they will reflect upon their past comments and apologize to the men and women of the Cambridge Police Department,"

[Dennis] 'Connor said

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Whatever he said in his phone call to Sgt. James Crowley, Obama didn't admit to the rest of us that he apologized for his ignorant, drive-by assault. He didn't say that he was "sorry" for "maligning" Crowley before the entire world for acting "stupidly" and for characterizing him as a racial profiler. He distanced himself from any concept of personal responsibility or regret, instead regretting how things turned out: "to the extent that my choice of words didn't illuminate, but rather contributed to more media frenzy, I think that was unfortunate."

 

Even worse, Obama took the opportunity to fire off a smaller caliber insult at Crowley and his fellow cops. After calling Crowley an "outstanding police officer and a good man, Obama again distorted the facts and criticized Crowley's arrest of Gates. Obama said: "I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station."

 

First of all, Gates wasn't pulled out of his home. Police reports state that Gates came out of the house after Crowley exited. Gates hasn't disputed any of the allegations in the reports.

 

Secondly, why is the presidential constitutional scholar relying on hearsay against an "outstanding police officer" after calling hearsay "unreliable" when it's used against suspected terrorists?

 

Just two months ago, using the U.S. Constitution as a prop, Obama made a speech about the due process rights of suspected terrorists under his administration: "We will no longer place the burden to prove that hearsay is unreliable on the opponent of the hearsay."

 

Why isn't Sgt. Crowley entitled to as much "due process" by Obama as Osama?

 

Call it damage control, taking the heat off, but not even the White House is calling Obama's statement an apology. Beltway pundits have a new word for it: "walk it back," away from the do-do, so to speak. Obama wants us to learn something:

 

My hope is, is that as a consequence of this event this ends up being what's called a "teachable moment," where all of us instead of pumping up the volume spend a little more time listening to each other and try to focus on how we can generally improve relations between police officers and minority communities, and that instead of flinging accusations we can all be a little more reflective in terms of what we can do to contribute to more unity.

 

Sgt. Crowley teaches a class on racial profiling to police officers. A fellow black instructor told the Boston Herald: "He's a very professional police officer and he's a good role model. Former police commissioner Ronny Watson, who is a person of color, hand-picked Sgt. Crowley. ... I presume because he would be the most qualified and most professional. He's a very good instructor. He gets very high reviews by the students."

 

Obama and his Harvard professor buddy should take advantage of the "teachable moment" by enrolling in Crowley's class. If they can pass the test on what constitutes racial profiling and apologize to a good cop, then they can buy him a beer.

 

If I'm giving the impression that the President of the United States is acting stupidly, let me calibrate my words. He is.

 

 

 

Jan LaRue is an attorney and a frequent contributor to American Thinker. Her husband is a retired cop -- a retired, insulted cop.

 

Page Printed from: American Thinker: Obama's 'Recalibrated' Insult at July 25, 2009 - 03:46:30 PM EDT

[Ahhlee]

The misconception here is that he "just said a dumb thing like Bush did".

 

When Bush had his line about ob/gyn's practicing their love with women, nobody was put in danger. I doubt that women quit going to their doctor because they were worried that he was going to have sex with them.

 

The problem I have is the negative effects it has already had on police just trying to do their jobs.

 

I personally have been accused, during traffic stops of stopping the vehicle because the person was black or Hispanic (the fact that they were going 80 in a 65 zone wasn't a factor in their race baiting minds).

 

Several of these times were at night in a car that passed my on the other side of a four lane divided highway. I told them that I didn't even know if it was a dog driving, let alone what color the driver was.

 

It is reinforcing that all you have to do is cry racism, then you get off and if this cop gets sued and sued successfully, what cop in his right mind will even want to do his job?

 

Like I said cops are already getting the line from people that the President said they didn't have to cooperate with the police.

 

It's dangerous, both to cops and civilians.

 

That's true, IWS. Obama's trigger response is likely to have long term implications that you and your fellow officers are going to have to deal with...and that sucks.

 

But don't worry. I'm sure that when Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson jump on the band wagon, they'll do whatever they can to ease tensions and not rile things up further.

[snafu]

as a not much of an Obama fan myself, I gotta ask:

 

Were you on the phone call between the cop and Obama? How do you know Obama only gave "half an apology?"

 

Obama's comment was stupid, but as many have pointed out- Bush said all kinds of stupid stuff. I thought it was stupid to overly- critique Bush's mis-speaks, and I think it's equally as stupid to do it to Obama.

 

Should he have said it? No.

 

Has he behaved in overtly racist actions that would lead one to believe that he is a racist at heart and therefore shouldn't be leading our country? No again.

 

Is it the end of the world because of what Obama said? Not even close.

 

Hell, I would be overly satisfied if Obama learns nothing more than to say "Ya know, I really don't know all about that situation, so I shouldn't comment" line from this. More people need to learn that line.

 

You know it doesn't matter. The cop was doing his job. Obama should'nt have stuck his nose in it at all. He's made our CIA, FBI, our Military and now our cops jobs even that much harder.

[phreakwars]

2 points to be made... first of all, you reap what you sow. If SOME police weren't so damn racist against blacks and hispanics in the first place over the last couple centuries, we wouldn't have a world where even an educated black man can even get paranoid about why he is being questioned by an officer. 2nd, While I don't think the cop was a racist, he did use a tactic to try and relinquish this mans rights by trying several times to coax him outside his home. I find it very improbable the officers story about not being able to hear or relay info to ECC because of Gate's yelling. I have used those same type of communication devices myself, which I am assuming are the ones that clip on your shoulder. I have used them in the loudest of conditions where you could hardly hear your own voice and still you could hear and send your message crystal clear. So I for one, don't buy the cops explanation. I contend he was trying to provoke Gates outside to yell so that he COULD arrest him for disturbing the peace. I'd actually like to hear the tapes of that to confirm this cops story... Bet we don't get to hear those, even though it has been confirmed these tapes exist. If this makes it harder on law enforcement now, don't blame the black man or Hispanic, blame your racist brothers in arms from times gone by for putting this type of paranoia into peoples heads. Hell, you can visit PoliceCrimes.com Forum ~ :: View Forum - Police Videos for your one stop shop of policemen being racist just in the YouTube era. Watch some of the clips posted then ask yourself again why blacks and other races would be paranoid about police.

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[snafu]

2 points to be made... first of all, you reap what you sow. If SOME police weren't so damn racist against blacks and hispanics in the first place over the last couple centuries, we wouldn't have a world where even an educated black man can even get paranoid about why he is being questioned by an officer. 2nd, While I don't think the cop was a racist, he did use a tactic to try and relinquish this mans rights by trying several times to coax him outside his home. I find it very improbable the officers story about not being able to hear or relay info to ECC because of Gate's yelling. I have used those same type of communication devices myself, which I am assuming are the ones that clip on your shoulder. I have used them in the loudest of conditions where you could hardly hear your own voice and still you could hear and send your message crystal clear. So I for one, don't buy the cops explanation. I contend he was trying to provoke Gates outside to yell so that he COULD arrest him for disturbing the peace. I'd actually like to hear the tapes of that to confirm this cops story... Bet we don't get to hear those, even though it has been confirmed these tapes exist. If this makes it harder on law enforcement now, don't blame the black man or Hispanic, blame your racist brothers in arms from times gone by for putting this type of paranoia into peoples heads. Hell, you can visit PoliceCrimes.com Forum ~ :: View Forum - Police Videos for your one stop shop of policemen being racist just in the YouTube era. Watch some of the clips posted then ask yourself again why blacks and other races would be paranoid about police.

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Well you can go one step farther and blame the racist brothers in arms that feel every thing done to them is because of the their race or creed. It's a two way street bro and I agree with you. So when do we meet in the middle?

[snafu]

And I think that's the Trillion dollar question.

[phreakwars]

Well you can go one step farther and blame the racist brothers in arms that feel every thing done to them is because of the their race or creed. It's a two way street bro and I agree with you. So when do we meet in the middle?

Honestly, I think we will meet that middle ground once everyday average citizens get along with each other and each race (FAT CHANCE THIS LIFETIME). Until then, the guys that are gonna get the blunt end of the racial frustrations and tensions, are unfortunately, gonna be our law enforcement.

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[snafu]

Honestly, I think we will meet that middle ground once everyday average citizens get along with each other and each race(FAT CHANCE THIS LIFETIME).....

 

Sad but true. This is what I hate about our so called human society.

[hugo]

Honestly, I think we will meet that middle ground once everyday average citizens get along with each other and each race (FAT CHANCE THIS LIFETIME). Until then, the guys that are gonna get the blunt end of the racial frustrations and tensions, are unfortunately, gonna be our law enforcement.

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In the long run the ones who are suffering most are minority children who are being taught they cannot succeed. Therefore, they don't.

[RoyalOrleans]

What I don't understand, Gates walks with a cane. Yet he was forcing the door open with his shoulder.

 

Perhaps Gates carries the cane as a fashion accessory of sorts?

[ImWithStupid]

What I don't understand, Gates walks with a cane. Yet he was forcing the door open with his shoulder.

 

Perhaps Gates carries the cane as a fashion accessory of sorts?

 

 

Actually he broke his hip in a football injury.

[Guest FuglyStick]

Yeah, sorry, Off Topic Forum, but I have no interest in participating in a community with dumbasses who refer to the President as the "messiah." Sorry, but you all enjoy yourselves

[ImWithStupid]

Yeah, sorry, Off Topic Forum, but I have no interest in participating in a community with dumbasses who refer to the President as the "messiah." Sorry, but you all enjoy yourselves

 

 

Thanks for checking us out. It's probably for the best. If your skin is that thin, then you probably wouldn't have enjoyed this place.

[RoyalOrleans]

Actually he broke his hip in a football injury.

 

I was going to say breakdancing.

[Chi]

Yeah, sorry, Off Topic Forum, but I have no interest in participating in a community with dumbasses who refer to the President as the "messiah." Sorry, but you all enjoy yourselves

 

Oh boohoo, whatever will we do now??!!?

[Chi]

I don't give him any credit, blah, blah, blah...

 

Good thing your credit doesn't matter.

 

as a not much of an Obama fan myself, I gotta ask:

 

Were you on the phone call between the cop and Obama? How do you know Obama only gave "half an apology?"

 

Obama's comment was stupid, but as many have pointed out- Bush said all kinds of stupid stuff. I thought it was stupid to overly- critique Bush's mis-speaks, and I think it's equally as stupid to do it to Obama.

 

Should he have said it? No.

 

Has he behaved in overtly racist actions that would lead one to believe that he is a racist at heart and therefore shouldn't be leading our country? No again.

 

Is it the end of the world because of what Obama said? Not even close.

 

Hell, I would be overly satisfied if Obama learns nothing more than to say "Ya know, I really don't know all about that situation, so I shouldn't comment" line from this. More people need to learn that line.

 

Thank goodness for good sense and fair judgement.