Obama remark on black scholar's arrest angers cops

[hugo]

Fukk.... I was eating lunch.

 

Sorry about that.

[RoyalOrleans]

Sorry about that.

 

I made all this fried chicken and sliced up a watermelon.

 

I wonder if my black cop neighbor would enjoy some... he has a beautiful white wife and three darling children.

[timesjoke]

Fukk.... I was eating lunch.

 

 

 

Ya, the length hugo will go to so he can dodge a direct question has no limits.

[hugo]

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old rancher, who's hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Palin and her bid.

 

The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Palin is a 'Post Turtle'."

 

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'Post Turtle' was.

 

The old rancher said, "When you're driving down a country road you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'Post Turtle'."

 

The old rancher saw the puzzled look on the doctor's face so he continued to explain. "You know she didn't get up there by herself, she don't belong up there, and she don't know what to do while she's up there, and you just wonder what kind of dummy put her up there to begin with."

[timesjoke]

lol, now your spamming?

[hugo]

Pictures speak a thousand words and debating with imbeciles, such as yourself, is a joke. I am sure evreyone else understood the point behind the photos.

[timesjoke]

Pictures speak a thousand words and debating with imbeciles, such as yourself, is a joke. I am sure evreyone else understood the point behind the photos.

 

To avoid answering a direct question asked you over and over again.....but your too scared to answer. Avoiding things do not make them go away my socialist friend.

[RoyalOrleans]

Pictures speak a thousand words and debating with imbeciles, such as yourself, is a joke. I am sure evreyone else understood the point behind the photos.

 

At the cost of my lunch... loud and fukken clear.

[RoyalOrleans]

lol, now your spamming?

 

His spamming what?

[RoyalOrleans]

And my neighbor is black. I mean deep... almost purple black.

 

His children have Obama's skin tone.

 

I know his wife doesn't even look my way, either. Once you go black... you know the rest.

[timesjoke]

His spamming what?

 

Posting the same thing in more then one thread is what some call spamming.....

 

 

 

 

So enlighten me guys, hugo posts the picture of stacy wilson, a women who had her hand and head chopped off by a stalker. At the bottom of the picture hugo had the comment:

 

"He won't forget to put out the garbage again."

 

What exactly does that have to do with a professor shooting off his mouth to a cop or even resisting Government?

 

 

 

 

You know hugo, I have pinned you down here and at the jungle and each time you run away from direct questions and hide behind pure garbage.

 

Your just too much a coward to face the fact that your wrong. All cops are not bad and they do not deserve to be abused just because they work for the Government in a law enforcement capacity. With as critical as you are of police, I bet your the first one to dial 911 when your behind is too small to back up your big mouth, lol.

 

Talk crap and run to the cops when someone calls your bluff......yep, I know your type very well.

[hugo]

Decided not to engage in circular debates anymore. That ignore function comes in handy.

[RoyalOrleans]

Posting the same thing in more then one thread is what some call spamming.....

 

 

 

 

So enlighten me guys, hugo posts the picture of stacy wilson, a women who had her hand and head chopped off by a stalker. At the bottom of the picture hugo had the comment:

 

"He won't forget to put out the garbage again."

 

What exactly does that have to do with a professor shooting off his mouth to a cop or even resisting Government?

 

 

 

 

You know hugo, I have pinned you down here and at the jungle and each time you run away from direct questions and hide behind pure garbage.

 

Your just too much a coward to face the fact that your wrong. All cops are not bad and they do not deserve to be abused just because they work for the Government in a law enforcement capacity. With as critical as you are of police, I bet your the first one to dial 911 when your behind is too small to back up your big mouth, lol.

 

Talk crap and run to the cops when someone calls your bluff......yep, I know your type very well.

 

Your little soapbox, bully pulput style of address and redress is just as bad as Mr. Gates' little tirade, TJ.

 

Repeating yourself over and over and over and over... the Internet Police should be knocking your front door down.

[hugo]

Now, if I can just get the ignore function to work when the imbecile is quoted.

[RoyalOrleans]

Now, if I can just get the ignore function to work when the imbecile is quoted.

 

Ooops!

 

Terribly sorry about all that, old boy.

 

I should've edited the imbecile's post down to "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH".

[hugo]

Ooops!

 

Terribly sorry about all that, old boy.

 

I should've edited the imbecile's post down to "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH".

 

Since I cost ya your lunch I would say we are even.

[hugo]

Now that I no longer have to address the under 70 IQ group let me quote J.S. Mill from the first chapter of "On Liberty":

 

The object of this Essay is to assert one very simple principle, as entitled to govern absolutely the dealings of society with the individual in the way of compulsion and control, whether the means used be physical force in the form of legal penalties, or the moral coercion of public opinion. That principle is, that the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or collectively in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinions of others, to do so would be wise, or even right. These are good reasons for remonstrating with him, or reasoning with him, or persuading him, or entreating him, but not for compelling him, or visiting him with any evil, in case he do otherwise. To justify that, the conduct from which it is desired to deter him must be calculated to produce evil to some one else. The only part of the conduct of any one, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.

 

Mill is following in the tradition of Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence and Madison, known as "The Father of the Constitution". You do not arrest someone, especially in their own home, for protesting the action of a government official. Whether it be the police officer at their door or the POTUS. You do not choke your maid for not starching your shirt, or stone your maid for not sweeping the floor or for blowing a camel. You do not behead a man for not taking out the garbage. You do not denose a man for stupidly playing with a chimpanzee. They may be all acts of irresponsibility, but they are not crimes deserving of either government imposed penalties or individually imposed violence. I respect no group more than police officers because the vast majority of them manage not to abuse the power placed in their hands. It is a tough job. Police officers, i.e. Crowley, sometimes slip up, to err is human.

 

And to the under 70 IQ group, Yo Mama.

[ImWithStupid]

And you again ignore, the repeatedly backed, constitutionally upheld, disturbing the peace and disorderly conduct laws that are legally on the books, and under which Officer Crowley, rightly and legally acted on.

 

If your beef is with the laws, I'll accept that, but if your beef is with Officer Crowley acting on the laws he swore to uphold, you're wrong.

[timesjoke]

And you again ignore, the repeatedly backed, constitutionally upheld, disturbing the peace and disorderly conduct laws that are legally on the books, and under which Officer Crowley, rightly and legally acted on.

 

If your beef is with the laws, I'll accept that, but if your beef is with Officer Crowley acting on the laws he swore to uphold, you're wrong.

 

He knows he is wrong Joe, that is why he dodges direct questions he knows will prove he is wrong.

 

I took him to task even with the same people he likes to quote and he runs away. I say people like hugo are the worse Americans to exist because he knows he is wrong, and he pushes his attitudes anyway.

 

When people are stupid, what do you say? When people are smart enough to know better and act stupid just to give them the appearance of justification, now that is what many would call evil.

[hugo]

And you again ignore, the repeatedly backed, constitutionally upheld, disturbing the peace and disorderly conduct laws that are legally on the books, and under which Officer Crowley, rightly and legally acted on.

 

If your beef is with the laws, I'll accept that, but if your beef is with Officer Crowley acting on the laws he swore to uphold, you're wrong.

 

You know better than I, IWS, that the police officer can use use his individual discretion in cases like this. Crowley could have walked away, since the only source of Gate's outrage, was Crowley's presence.

 

Clearly, disturbing the peace laws must be on the books, otherwise a neighbor blaring loud rap music could make my life a living hell. I firmly believe though that few arrests are made when an officer is called on a disturbing the peace call. Now, if the peace disturber refuses the officers request to stop his actions he will be arrested. So why do I think Gates should not have been arrested when Crowley requested Gates to shut up and Gates refused to do so? Mainly, because when I watch Cops (sorry, that is the best I can do) if the peace disturbance is caused by arguments between two individuals what the officer almost always does is get the individuals to seperate, to get one or both to return to their homes or somewhere else where they are no longer in the proximity of each other. Seldom is an arrest made. Crowley could have seperated the two parties in this disagreement quite easily. All he had to do was say. "Have a nice day, you raving lunatic" and leave. Crowley, was, most likely, not legally wrong, under current laws; he was wrong under my personal moral code, that emphasizes individual liberty and the Constitution as envisioned by our founding fathers, not the Constitution that the oligarchs in black robes have given us. Jefferson summed it up best "The government that governs best, governs least."

[timesjoke]

lol, and again only the officer's ability to walk away is all hugo will ever see. The individual is blameless, a government official is always to blame in his world.

 

I am now and will forever be a supporter of individual responsibility as was all of the people hugo claims to admire. Even his sig hold the truth of how personal responsibility is the key to a successful society....so why is it even hugo refuses to hold people responsible for their own actions? Why does hugo make excuses for a race pimp? Why does hugo believe that anything done to a police officer is reasonable?

 

With individual liberty comes individual responsibility, one is impossible without the other.

[eddo]

lol, and again only the officer's ability to walk away is all hugo will ever see. The individual is blameless, a government official is always to blame in his world.

 

I am now and will forever be a supporter of individual responsibility as was all of the people hugo claims to admire. Even his sig hold the truth of how personal responsibility is the key to a successful society....so why is it even hugo refuses to hold people responsible for their own actions? Why does hugo make excuses for a race pimp? Why does hugo believe that anything done to a police officer is reasonable?

 

With individual liberty comes individual responsibility, one is impossible without the other.

 

why are you more intent on making this about hugo than about the case itself?

[hugo]

why are you more intent on making this about hugo than about the case itself?

 

Please, stop quoting him in length. I got him on ignore. Answering the same question over and over bores me.

[timesjoke]

why are you more intent on making this about hugo than about the case itself?

 

He is the only guy saying the actions of the professor does not matter eddo. He says the officer should have walked away just because he is a government employee and deserves whatever abuse is piled on him.

 

 

I hate that in people like hugo. They know better, but they still impose all people doing a job for the Government as the bad guy and at the same time say anything done by the non-government person is completely blameless and justified because the police deserve that level of mistreatment.

 

 

People like hugo cause these things to happen eddo. Hugo is an enabler, he makes these things possible because without guys like hugo, there would be no sympathy for them, no audience, so they would stop doing it.

 

 

 

 

 

And Hugo, you never answered any direct question I asked, that is why I kept asking it over and over. You ran away like the coward you are, you know your wrong or you would have stood up and answered the question the first time I asked it of you.

[emkay64]

Fukkin pictures! Geez Hugo...