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[timesjoke]

Really? Someone disagrees with you on occasion so you just put them on "ignore"? People don't live up to YOUR expectations, so you put them on "ignore"? You can't control how someone reacts to you, so you put them on "ignore"?

 

Seems like a yellow belly move to me.

 

Sure, we all have our disagreements here from time to time, but is it really necessary to just flat out ignore someone for it? Nobody's perfect. Man up, face the conflict, try to find a resolution, and if you absolutely can't then agree to disagree.

 

Ignoring is pretty sh!tty and cowardly, IMO.

 

An interesting point is about to be made, please pay attention everyone:

 

 

Please, stop quoting him in length. I got him on ignore. Answering the same question over and over bores me.

 

hugo has said several times that he has placed me on ignore in just the last couple days, did you say this to him?

 

Did you call hugo a coward?

 

Did you question his integrity?

 

Did you tell him to face the conflict?

 

 

 

Several of you have a huge double standard when it comes to me. I most likely will not put eddo on ignore because when he is not directly talking to or about me he is actually pretty funny and I like some of what he says but it seems his need to be ugly to me makes it impossible for him to ever treat me with even a shread of decency and can I be allowed to be human enough to not know how to deal with such things sometimes?

[mercury]

hugo is hugo... there's a different set of standards for sheep humpers

[timesjoke]

hugo is hugo... there's a different set of standards for sheep humpers

 

lol, okay, that was funny

[Ahhlee]

hugo has said several times that he has placed me on ignore in just the last couple days, did you say this to him?

 

Did you call hugo a coward?

 

Did you question his integrity?

 

Did you tell him to face the conflict?

 

 

 

Several of you have a huge double standard when it comes to me. I most likely will not put eddo on ignore because when he is not directly talking to or about me he is actually pretty funny and I like some of what he says but it seems his need to be ugly to me makes it impossible for him to ever treat me with even a shread of decency and can I be allowed to be human enough to not know how to deal with such things sometimes?

 

I missed over a week of interactions so I didn't realize hugo had put you on ignore.

 

I guess I think of us all as a group of friends here. And with any group of friends, sometimes there is conflict but 90% of the time there is great joy. I think to cast away that 90% and punish someone based on the 10% is sad, but that's just my take on it.

 

TJ, there are days you drive me absolutely crazy and I'm TEMPTED to put you on ignore, but I would never do it. It just wouldn't seem right.

[timesjoke]

I missed over a week of interactions so I didn't realize hugo had put you on ignore.

 

Well now you know, let's see you publically jump his azz like you do mine.

 

This is my point, your only now saying this because you like to defend eddo, whatever he does is okay and anything I do in opposition to eddo must be bad and punnished with a public display of scorn.

 

I really wish I could get a fair shake around here sometimes.

 

 

I guess I think of us all as a group of friends here. And with any group of friends, sometimes there is conflict but 90% of the time there is great joy. I think to cast away that 90% and punish someone based on the 10% is sad, but that's just my take on it.

 

But eddo's negativity to me is 100%, not 10%. Wez is 100% as well and that is why he is on my ignore list.

 

 

TJ, there are days you drive me absolutely crazy and I'm TEMPTED to put you on ignore, but I would never do it. It just wouldn't seem right.

 

 

You say tempted, I say considering, would that not be the same thing? I am saying the same as your saying but different words. Am I not allowed to be human and feel tempted to relieve a 100% constant negative and nasty element in my life?

 

 

Me and you have had both good and bad as well as indifferent times between us, there is some give and take involved so there is something for us to build on. I don't have that with eddo, eddo has nothing but contempt, vile, and ugly things to say to and about me, 100% hurtful and mean. What do I have to build on with him? I put Wez on ignore for the exact same reason, there is no possible future of anything positive between me and Wez so why waste my time and part of my life on something that can never have a shread of good from it?

 

 

I deserve to be dressed down and called a coward by you because I sometimes feel the constant flow of hate to be a tad tough to deal with?

 

I am not the kind of person to just sit there and be a punching bag for eternity.

[Ahhlee]

Well now you know, let's see you publically jump his azz like you do mine.

 

This is my point, your only now saying this because you like to defend eddo, whatever he does is okay and anything I do in opposition to eddo must be bad and punnished with a public display of scorn.

 

I really wish I could get a fair shake around here sometimes.

 

HUGO! You naughty little sh!t. Man up, take TJ off ignore and deal with him like the rest of us do.

 

There, are you happy?

 

 

But eddo's negativity to me is 100%, not 10%. Wez is 100% as well and that is why he is on my ignore list.

 

Now you're just exaggerating. Come on, TJ. Seriously.

 

 

You say tempted, I say considering, would that not be the same thing? I am saying the same as your saying but different words. Am I not allowed to be human and feel tempted to relieve a 100% constant negative and nasty element in my life?

 

Be tempted all you want! Be human. I'm just trying to talk you out of actually doing it is all. But if it's what you want to do, by all mean....ignore away!

 

 

 

Me and you have had both good and bad as well as indifferent times between us, there is some give and take involved so there is something for us to build on. I don't have that with eddo, eddo has nothing but contempt, vile, and ugly things to say to and about me, 100% hurtful and mean. What do I have to build on with him? I put Wez on ignore for the exact same reason, there is no possible future of anything positive between me and Wez so why waste my time and part of my life on something that can never have a shread of good from it?

 

Again, I think you are exaggerating. Why not give them another chance? Aren't friends worthy of being given another chance?

 

Sh!t, even MrsK and I came to terms at the Jungle and Hell didn't even have to freeze over first!

 

 

 

I deserve to be dressed down and called a coward by you because I sometimes feel the constant flow of hate to be a tad tough to deal with?

 

I am not the kind of person to just sit there and be a punching bag for eternity.

 

Breathe, TJ. Breathe, relax, put on your big boy underoos and jump back on your pony.

[timesjoke]

HUGO! You naughty little sh!t. Man up, take TJ off ignore and deal with him like the rest of us do.

 

There, are you happy?

 

lol, well that was hardly the treatment you gave me, no heart or passion like you gave me, but that is not really my point.

 

You said what you said not because of my considering to put eddo on ignore but because it was me and somehow I deserve to be treated much more harshly by you and a couple others for some reason.

 

 

 

Now you're just exaggerating. Come on, TJ. Seriously.

 

Go into look at all of eddo's posts and offer me a percentage of posts made by eddo about or to me that he says something nice in the last two years.

 

Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.

 

Be tempted all you want! Be human. I'm just trying to talk you out of actually doing it is all. But if it's what you want to do, by all mean....ignore away!

 

But you still called me a coward among other things for thinking about it.

 

 

 

Again, I think you are exaggerating. Why not give them another chance? Aren't friends worthy of being given another chance?

 

Wez has never been and never will be a friend of mine. He is just too far gone from reality to be allowed anywhere near my consideration.

 

 

eddo, the only problem I have with eddo is how he treats me, I never even mention his name and out of nowhere he slams me for one thing or another. eddo has certainly never tried to be friendly with me other then as far as he could get me to help him give Wez a hard time. Once Wez was no longer an issue, eddo has been completely nasty to me.

 

Sh!t, even MrsK and I came to terms at the Jungle and Hell didn't even have to freeze over first!

 

And I have held my hand out to eddo many times just to have it slapped away. I am happy just to have a truce, if he is so upset at me for some reason fine, just leave me alone.

[wez]

lol, well that was hardly the treatment you gave me, no heart or passion like you gave me, but that is not really my point.

 

You said what you said not because of my considering to put eddo on ignore but because it was me and somehow I deserve to be treated much more harshly by you and a couple others for some reason.

 

 

 

 

 

Go into look at all of eddo's posts and offer me a percentage of posts made by eddo about or to me that he says something nice in the last two years.

 

Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.

 

 

 

But you still called me a coward among other things for thinking about it.

 

 

 

 

 

Wez has never been and never will be a friend of mine. He is just too far gone from reality to be allowed anywhere near my consideration.

 

 

eddo, the only problem I have with eddo is how he treats me, I never even mention his name and out of nowhere he slams me for one thing or another. eddo has certainly never tried to be friendly with me other then as far as he could get me to help him give Wez a hard time. Once Wez was no longer an issue, eddo has been completely nasty to me.

 

 

 

And I have held my hand out to eddo many times just to have it slapped away. I am happy just to have a truce, if he is so upset at me for some reason fine, just leave me alone.

 

 

Baby Jesus Christ.. now you're fukking dragging my name in this post too?

 

Ya know.. you were doing so good.. go back to ignoring me.. will ya?

 

shakes BCAR's head ruefully..

[Ahhlee]

lol, well that was hardly the treatment you gave me, no heart or passion like you gave me, but that is not really my point.

 

You said what you said not because of my considering to put eddo on ignore but because it was me and somehow I deserve to be treated much more harshly by you and a couple others for some reason.

 

 

I've never been one to dole out flowery, poetic sentiments, TJ. I guess I was simply trying to make a point and sometimes I can be rather direct when I do so. It's part of my abrasive, offensive charm.

 

If I hurt your feelings, then I apologize.

 

 

 

Go into look at all of eddo's posts and offer me a percentage of posts made by eddo about or to me that he says something nice in the last two years.

 

Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.

 

 

Well, I am done with work for the most part but I hardly think reading through 2 years worth of eddo's posts looking for comments that pertain to you seems like a reasonable way to spend my free time.

 

But I'm sure if I did feel that was necessary, I would find some good things expressed. I fail to believe his animosity toward you hits the 100% mark. Sorry.

 

 

 

 

But you still called me a coward among other things for thinking about it.

 

 

I said that I think simply ignoring someone is a cowardly ACT. That act doesn't necessarily define you as a person. It's simply one behaviorial trait that I find to be in poor taste.

 

 

 

Wez has never been and never will be a friend of mine. He is just too far gone from reality to be allowed anywhere near my consideration.

 

 

I used to think that way once. Now I happen to think wez is a pretty cool guy.

 

Never say never.

 

 

eddo, the only problem I have with eddo is how he treats me, I never even mention his name and out of nowhere he slams me for one thing or another. eddo has certainly never tried to be friendly with me other then as far as he could get me to help him give Wez a hard time. Once Wez was no longer an issue, eddo has been completely nasty to me.

 

 

When was the last time you sent eddo roses? How about wez?

 

 

 

And I have held my hand out to eddo many times just to have it slapped away. I am happy just to have a truce, if he is so upset at me for some reason fine, just leave me alone.

 

 

I'll admit that having your hand slapped when you try to reach out to someone hurts. But are you truly willing to receive eddo's truce without conditions?

 

If not, then you are both to blame for the bad blood between you.

 

And personally, I think anything can be resolved if both parties want it to be but again, that's just my opinion.

[Ahhlee]

I drink sweet tea, that is my main drink pretty much everywhere I go. Apple juice and orange juice for breakfast and if I have to, I will drink a sprite or other clear soda if nothing else is available, I love my home water but cannot drink city water and most bottled waters are crap.

 

I can't say for sure about your apple juice or orange juice because it depends on what brand you are purchasing, but the sweet tea and the sprite contain A LOT of refined sugar.

 

Weren't you the one insisting you could whip my fat ass into shape if I took you on as my personal trainer?

 

I guess for some, losing those extra pounds isn't always that simple, is it?

[timesjoke]

Ali, the round and round about eddo is simple, you can look for yourself or accept my word about what is happening (maybe I know what is being said because it is directed at me and you didn't even know Hugo had me on ignore so you obviously miss a lot) or you can believe that just because eddo is your friend, he could not possibly be capable of doing this........your choice of truth or blind support that makes you wrong, I can't make that choice for you, only you can make that choice.

 

 

All we do know for sure no matter what way you decide is your decision to call me a coward and stuff for considering to place eddo on ignore to get away from the constant stream of insults was not fair. You reacted only to defend eddo and would never and have never said similar things to people like hugo for doing the same things.

 

 

We still have a part hate relationship as your next post indicates where you seem to be holding some hard feelings from the past so it seems when the chance appears, you will still go overboard to berate me unlike you do with the rest of the members........I can accept that, and I hope we can one day get past that, but the only way to get past it is to call it for what it is.

 

 

I like you, your 95% great and only 5% bad so I would never not want to talk with you or be around you. The 5% keeps things interesting.

 

Eddo may not be 100% bad, but he is certainly 99% and that just seems like a tough thing to deal with sometimes.

 

 

 

 

I can't say for sure about your apple juice or orange juice because it depends on what brand you are purchasing, but the sweet tea and the sprite contain A LOT of refined sugar.

 

Weren't you the one insisting you could whip my fat ass into shape if I took you on as my personal trainer?

 

I guess for some, losing those extra pounds isn't always that simple, is it?

 

So you calling me obese? Don't you have to over a certain percentage of fat to be able to even get the surgeries like that? My offer was to help you lose weight, I never said to make you a skinny fencepost.

 

I carry my 270 very well thank you very much. Size 40 pants at over 6 foot tall does not really make me fat. Sure I call myself a tad heavy because in my mind I still see the man who used to work out all the time and kept a sixpack for most of his life. My doctor is worried about my cholesterol, not my sugar intake. He told me he would feel better if I lost 15 pounds and I am considering it but people who used to work out heavy have the hardest time in controlling their weight, it is worse than thyroid problems.

 

Not an excuse, just a point.

 

 

But, yes I know sugar is bad, so is breathing lol.

 

Did you know the average home is more polluted than the middle of a big city during rush hour? Ever hear of Volatile Organic Compunds (VOC's)? If you have carpet, furnature, cabinets, varnished items, tile, most paints, etc....in your home then your breathing unhealthy chemicals every day.

 

I thought as most people do that my home was great, until I tested it and found out that over 90% of all homes have some form of toxic exposures they are dealing with.....did you know even most candles are extremely bad for you?

 

One candle can be as bad as eating a pound of fat for a month for your heart and other systems. Interesting to say the least, lol.

 

 

So there are many ways to be healthy, I am now looking for moderation, in most cases diets just do not work, it is changing lifestyle that works so that is why I am changing how I cook things like using my grill to cook most of the "bad" foods to let the greases drip off instead of eating them. We are looking for new rescipees that have less bad stuff in them like I love alfredo noodles but the sauce is very bad so we are doing more other things and avoiding them, I feel confident with small changes and keeping to them without doing anything drastic I will very slowly reduce my weight without making me feel like I am starving or really giving up much.

 

Small baby steps for change to be are the best and easiest to accept.

 

 

 

 

And I refuse to give up my tea, lol.

 

We do the 50/50 thing with real sugar and splenda, that is supposed to be a little better

[wez]

Ya know TJ.. I know you think it's normal to assume everyone is trampling over one another to be accepted by you and will do anything for your approval.. and that you think you have some right to judge everyone under the sun as good/bad.. except yourself, of course..

 

I'm here to tell you.. you are a dumbass.

 

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/free-for-all/30115-here-ya-are-tj-a-favor.html#post107055

[Ahhlee]

Ali, the round and round about eddo is simple, you can look for yourself or accept my word about what is happening (maybe I know what is being said because it is directed at me and you didn't even know Hugo had me on ignore so you obviously miss a lot) or you can believe that just because eddo is your friend, he could not possibly be capable of doing this........your choice of truth or blind support that makes you wrong, I can't make that choice for you, only you can make that choice.

 

 

All we do know for sure no matter what way you decide is your decision to call me a coward and stuff for considering to place eddo on ignore to get away from the constant stream of insults was not fair. You reacted only to defend eddo and would never and have never said similar things to people like hugo for doing the same things.

 

 

We still have a part hate relationship as your next post indicates where you seem to be holding some hard feelings from the past so it seems when the chance appears, you will still go overboard to berate me unlike you do with the rest of the members........I can accept that, and I hope we can one day get past that, but the only way to get past it is to call it for what it is.

 

 

I like you, your 95% great and only 5% bad so I would never not want to talk with you or be around you. The 5% keeps things interesting.

 

Eddo may not be 100% bad, but he is certainly 99% and that just seems like a tough thing to deal with sometimes.

 

 

Oh Sweet Jesus....fine, you're not a coward TJ. You are the bravest of the brave. The noblest of the noble. The cat's ass. The creme de la creme. Fuk!

 

Put people on ignore if you want to! It's a free site and a free country so do what you please. If ignoring someone is the best possible solution you can come up with to resolve a minor conflict, then have at it if that's what your heart desires.

 

It's simply not the course I would choose to follow. Sheesh.

 

 

 

 

So you calling me obese?

 

I have no idea what you are. That's between you and your doctor.

 

 

Don't you have to over a certain percentage of fat to be able to even get the surgeries like that?

 

Not necessarily. As I labored to point out previously, there are other co-morbidities that can be taken into consideration to be approved for gastric surgery. My doctor and I had a lengthy discussion about it and decided it would be a successful option for me....and it has.

 

 

 

My offer was to help you lose weight, I never said to make you a skinny fencepost.

 

What, were you going to stand on my back while I did pushups while barking orders and insults at me between bites of a Philly sandwich with extra cheese and big gulps of sweet tea?

 

I guess leading by example is only something OTHERS should do, huh.

 

 

I carry my 270 very well thank you very much. Size 40 pants at over 6 foot tall does not really make me fat. Sure I call myself a tad heavy because in my mind I still see the man who used to work out all the time and kept a sixpack for most of his life. My doctor is worried about my cholesterol, not my sugar intake.

 

What do you think refined sugar does? Make big, bulging muscles? All it is good for is creating fat. I'm saying is that if your doctor said you should drop some extra weight, then refined sugar is not helping your cause.

 

 

 

He told me he would feel better if I lost 15 pounds and I am considering it but people who used to work out heavy have the hardest time in controlling their weight, it is worse than thyroid problems.

 

Not an excuse, just a point.

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhh bullsh!t. That's an excuse wrapped in a an alibi and shrouded in self-justification.

 

Funny how it's ok for your doctor to be sympathetic to your "unique" situation but mine, according to you, was enabling me.

 

 

 

But, yes I know sugar is bad, so is breathing lol.

 

Did you know the average home is more polluted than the middle of a big city during rush hour? Ever hear of Volatile Organic Compunds (VOC's)? If you have carpet, furnature, cabinets, varnished items, tile, most paints, etc....in your home then your breathing unhealthy chemicals every day.

 

I thought as most people do that my home was great, until I tested it and found out that over 90% of all homes have some form of toxic exposures they are dealing with.....did you know even most candles are extremely bad for you?

 

One candle can be as bad as eating a pound of fat for a month for your heart and other systems. Interesting to say the least, lol.

 

Uhhhh....ok?

 

 

So there are many ways to be healthy, I am now looking for moderation, in most cases diets just do not work, it is changing lifestyle that works so that is why I am changing how I cook things like using my grill to cook most of the "bad" foods to let the greases drip off instead of eating them. We are looking for new rescipees that have less bad stuff in them like I love alfredo noodles but the sauce is very bad so we are doing more other things and avoiding them, I feel confident with small changes and keeping to them without doing anything drastic I will very slowly reduce my weight without making me feel like I am starving or really giving up much.

 

Small baby steps for change to be are the best and easiest to accept.

 

Well, that's very interesting as well. I made healthy food choices before my surgery and exercised, but it wasn't enough. I was never a huge, binging eater so when I tried diets like Nutri-system they didn't work because the amount of food they recommended (reduced intake to result in weight loss) was roughly the amount I was already consuming so it was pointless for me to continue with their program.

 

I do understand the concept of restriction, so I tried medications to help me combat hunger when I severely reduced my caloric intake, but they left me feeling edgy and jittery. I'm very sensitive to medications and there was no way I was willing to take them over the long term.

 

Because of my sh!tty metabolism and family history, the doctor and I decided that gastric surgery would allow me to have the severe restriction I needed without constant hunger pangs that typically cause most diets to fail.

 

It's the best thing I've ever done.

 

 

I will very slowly reduce my weight without making me feel like I am starving or really giving up much.

 

What? You don't like giving up everything and feeling hunger pangs? Do you find that to be an uncomfortable experience?

 

All you need to do is practice a little self control. I'm sure the discomfort would go away in NO time.

 

 

And I refuse to give up my tea, lol.

 

Yet I was admonished because I said once in awhile I allow myself treats and I liked to drink beer on occasion. You told me that one treat and one beer was TOO MUCH if I was "serious" about losing weight.

 

Fukking hypocrite.

[timesjoke]

 

It's simply not the course I would choose to follow. Sheesh.

 

Because your always the one dishing out the abuse, you have never had to be constantly bombarded by it the way I am by people like eddo.

 

 

Not necessarily. As I labored to point out previously, there are other co-morbidities that can be taken into consideration to be approved for gastric surgery. My doctor and I had a lengthy discussion about it and decided it would be a successful option for me....and it has.

 

If your going to have a need for surgery to remove the flabby skin your severely over weight.

 

 

 

 

What, were you going to stand on my back while I did pushups while barking orders and insults at me between bites of a Philly sandwich with extra cheese and big gulps of sweet tea?

 

I guess leading by example is only something OTHERS should do, huh.

 

What idocy are you talking Ali? I am not obese, you think being 150 pounds overweight is the same as being 10 or 15 pounds?

 

 

 

What do you think refined sugar does? Make big, bulging muscles? All it is good for is creating fat. I'm saying is that if your doctor said you should drop some extra weight, then refined sugar is not helping your cause.

 

Sugar is potential energy that burns off fast, an active person will burn off refined surgar almost completely, but if your already severely over weight then yes, it is more harmful because your already stressing your system as it is. In face, many very fat people get diabetes as a result and many of those get over diabetes when they lose the excessive weight.

 

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhh bullsh!t. That's an excuse wrapped in a an alibi and shrouded in self-justification.

 

Funny how it's ok for your doctor to be sympathetic to your "unique" situation but mine, according to you, was enabling me.

 

Your massively overweight Ali. You cannot compare yourself to someone who is not.

 

I guess you don't know that most people with thyroid problems easily get past it with medication.

 

 

Well, that's very interesting as well. I made healthy food choices before my surgery and exercised, but it wasn't enough. I was never a huge, binging eater so when I tried diets like Nutri-system they didn't work because the amount of food they recommended (reduced intake to result in weight loss) was roughly the amount I was already consuming so it was pointless for me to continue with their program.

 

Diets never work. Look at the nutri-system commercials, they show someone lost 30 pounds and in small letters they say "results not typical".....what....losing weight is not typical?

 

Of course not, you have to change your lifestyle, a "diet" is you punnishing yourself, putting your mouth on restriction and it never works for the very obese.

 

I do understand the concept of restriction, so I tried medications to help me combat hunger when I severely reduced my caloric intake, but they left me feeling edgy and jittery. I'm very sensitive to medications and there was no way I was willing to take them over the long term.

 

Because of my sh!tty metabolism and family history, the doctor and I decided that gastric surgery would allow me to have the severe restriction I needed without constant hunger pangs that typically cause most diets to fail.

 

The problem is your hand bringing food to your mouth, I'm sorry to be blunt but your little attempt to try and make us sound the same is lame to the extreme. I am about to turn 44 years old and have a few extra pounds, I am not obese.

 

But, yes my own extra weight is because of the same reason, my hand puts food into my mouth, that is my fault, we are just talking much different degrees and mine is not dangering my health, yours was.

 

What? You don't like giving up everything and feeling hunger pangs? Do you find that to be an uncomfortable experience?

 

All you need to do is practice a little self control. I'm sure the discomfort would go away in NO time.

 

Yet I was admonished because I said once in awhile I allow myself treats and I liked to drink beer on occasion. You told me that one treat and one beer was TOO MUCH if I was "serious" about losing weight.

 

Fukking hypocrite.

 

Stop feeling sorry for yourself Ali, your better than this.

 

You were severely over weight, I am not, my colesterol was high and now I have it down below what my doctor wants me to keep it......I am healthy, I am active, and I keep myself checked on a regular basis.

 

 

I will do what I need to do and if I need to make a drastic loss of weight for my health I will do that because I have the will power to do what I "need" to do, but I see no reason to make drastic moves when I am healthy and not in danger.

 

 

 

 

You were in severe danger, for many years, your situation is nothing like mine. So your solutions are nothing like mine.

 

 

 

But, I am not saying your a bad person for getting the belt Ali, I was talking as a devil's advocate to show that surgery is a big, big step. You did what you feel is right and I support you on that, I don't think your a bad person for not having the ability to do this on your own, at least you were able to admit to yourself that you had an issue you could not handle and got the help you needed........I respect that more than you might think.

 

The important thing is to know that your going to finally get down to a healthy weight, your life expectancy is going to go way up with this and that is a good thing. Your self esteem is going to go way up because of this and that is a good thing. Your food bill is going way down and that is a good thing. I am sure the plus sizes cost more so your going to spend less on clothes.

 

Looks to me like everything in your life is going to get so much better by losing the weight, so good job, I'm proud of you for doing what you had to do.

 

 

 

Fukking hypocrite.

 

Should I return the insults? Treat you the way you treat me? Maybe some fat jokes or talk about the muppet characters?

 

Maybe instead I will just say that I forgive you and maybe you can forgive me some day.

[eddo]

Baby Jesus Christ.. now you're fukking dragging my name in this post too?

 

Ya know.. you were doing so good.. go back to ignoring me.. will ya?

 

shakes BCAR's head ruefully..

posted just so TJ can see it.

 

 

 

wow, I had no idea I was such a hot topic in this thread/post, that I have yet to even reply too.

 

Here, lets make things better:

TJ, I <3 you. You are my favorite. You are the best friend a guy could have. I want to have a sex change so you will marry me. I only wish I could make babies with you. Please don't ever change.

[Ahhlee]

TJ - Again, and as usual, you didn't comprehend a goddamn thing I said. Not that it should surprise me.

 

You have it set in your mind what you THINK my situation was without taking into consideration, whatsoever, what it really was.

 

Whatever.

 

I'm going to go down a hammock full of brownies, a keg of beer and 29 Philly sandwiches with extra cheese....like I did ALL THE TIME, ALL DAY LONG before my surgery....to make myself feel better.

 

Let the fat jokes commence!

[mercury]

can I steal a few brownies before you hoover them all down?

[eddo]

I am 6' 2" and 270 pounds, I have the linebacker build with a little more gut than would seem healthy, and I agree, lol.

 

I am not obese,

 

...

 

I am not obese.

 

Calculate your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator

I hate to get nit picky, but actually at 6'2" and 270, you are technically obese. That gives you a Body Mass Index of 34.7, and anything over 30 is considered obese.

 

If you want to be not obese, lay off the sweet tea and Philly Cheese-steaks until you get down to 234.

 

 

have a nice day.

[Ahhlee]

can I steal a few brownies before you hoover them all down?

 

Fuk no. I'm a binger! The only thing I'm capable of doing is bringing food to my mouth with my hands.

 

If only I had been a big, strong, awesome, super amazing body builder. Then any extra weight I carry would be completely acceptable and "understandable".

 

Gee whiz. Sucks to be me.

[mercury]

dammit....

[Ahhlee]

And TJ, I never told you that your solution had to be the same as mine. My situation was a unique one, just as you claim yours is.

 

I think it's absolutely amazing that you took me to task for things that you are doing yourself.

 

God, you'd be a lot more pleasing of a person if you'd actually practice what you LOVE to preach...and preach....and preach...and....

[Chi]

Calculate your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator

I hate to get nit picky, but actually at 6'2" and 270, you are technically obese. That gives you a Body Mass Index of 34.7, and anything over 30 is considered obese.

 

If you want to be not obese, lay off the sweet tea and Philly Cheese-steaks until you get down to 234.

 

 

have a nice day.

 

That's if he's even being honest about the height and weight. Cuz with him, you never know...

[timesjoke]

If you want to be not obese, lay off the sweet tea and Philly Cheese-steaks until you get down to 234.

 

 

have a nice day.

 

Your such a dumbass, really you need to always try and be ugly no matter even if you have to be completely stupid in the process.

 

Do you know what my body mass is? Did you know dense muscle weighs more than fat? Hell my calves are 19 inches around, I have a huge amount of muscle mass from all the weight training I used to do, yes I am losing some of that mass now that I am not working out the same as I used to but it is still there and I have some fat on top of it.

 

 

234? lol, I was 230 without a speck of fat on me eddo, you just have no clue at all in life.

 

 

If you even had a clue about how these things were calculated you would have asked questions instead of looking so incredibly stupid.

 

 

 

And TJ, I never told you that your solution had to be the same as mine. My situation was a unique one, just as you claim yours is.

 

I think it's absolutely amazing that you took me to task for things that you are doing yourself.

 

God, you'd be a lot more pleasing of a person if you'd actually practice what you LOVE to preach...and preach....and preach...and....

 

So your saying I am carrying over a hundred pounds of pure fat?

 

You cannot compare me who is not dangeriously obese to yourself who is, two completely different worlds and degrees of overweight. Your situation required drastic action to save your life, mine does not.

 

It is like the difference between driving 5 miles over the speed limit and drivinf a hundred miles an hour over the speed limit, the element of possible harm is my point.

 

 

That's if he's even being honest about the height and weight. Cuz with him, you never know...

 

So your calling me a liar again?

 

What is it with you guys?

 

If I wanted to lie would I have admitted to any extra weight? Your being stupid now too, but usually your not this bad, eddo yes, all he cares about is being hateful, but I have seen a different side with you, don't drop down to eddo's level.

[eddo]

Your such a dumbass,

 

name calling?? Really? I thought you were above that?

 

 

So your calling me a liar again?

 

Why not? You do it to everyone else..

 

Don't like the way that medicine tastes?

[emkay64]

I freaking hate the word "obese"...like looking in a mirror isn't hard enough let's just add a disgustingly grotesque word to the mix walks away grumbling .