Plastic surgery

[Ahhlee]

Sounds quaint and false to be honest.

 

If all your interested in is taking shots.....ok, when your ready to post with some thought let me know, your nicer to talk to in those times.

 

Ehhh...I'm seldom thoughtful or nice.

 

And feel free to ignore me if that's what you need to do. It's cool. I'm used to it.

[RoyalOrleans]

If they "need" a bigger breast to feed and live, then they will die waiting the thousands of years to get the bigger breast, that is as simple as I can make this concept, if your not able to grasp that very basic idea there really is no way for me to discuss it with you.

 

Ohhhhh I see what you are talking about.

 

(sarcasm)

 

What part of evolution do you not understand? I grasp your idea very well: you think that suddenly homo sapien erectus appeared out of nowhere. If that were the case, then we would not exist as a species today. Yesteryear's simian forebears were ill equpped to feed the species today.

[RoyalOrleans]

Sounds quaint and false to be honest.

 

If all your interested in is taking shots.....ok, when your ready to post with some thought let me know, your nicer to talk to in those times.

 

Ohh... yeah Mr. Kettle.

 

You do realize you are posting in Ali's thread, the thread we are mucking up?

 

Ali...

 

Sorry for fukken up your thread.

[Ahhlee]

Ohh... yeah Mr. Kettle.

 

You do realize you are posting in Ali's thread, the thread we are mucking up?

 

Ali...

 

Sorry for fukken up your thread.

 

It's fine, RO. It's not like I've never been a party to such shenanigans. No worries, whatsoever and I thank you for your consideration.

 

I do feel bad about all the fighting and derailing myself. I REALLY feel bad that emkay didn't want to stick around on account of it. So if I have offended anyone with my snarkiness as of late, I apologize.

 

Sometimes I live my life like a damn hurricane, and the aftermath is saddening.

 

I hope everyone has a safe and fantastic Labor Day weekend! Take care, all!

[eddo]

I, too, apologize for dragging this crud all over.

[timesjoke]

As do I, I was only trying to discuss that boobies confuse scientists too, lol.

 

 

I'm sorry Ali and emkay if I drove you away from this thread with my actions please accept my appoligies.

 

RO, I will gladly take this up in the other thread or drop it, let me know there if you want to keep it going.

 

 

 

 

 

Ali as I already said and want to get it back on topic:

 

I believe you should do what will make you happy. If you will have flabby flesh, it makes perfect sense that you would want to tighten that up a little.

 

I don't know how fast things are progressing for you, will this be soon or still way down the road?

[Ahhlee]

As do I, I was only trying to discuss that boobies confuse scientists too, lol.

 

 

I'm sorry Ali and emkay if I drove you away from this thread with my actions please accept my appoligies.

 

RO, I will gladly take this up in the other thread or drop it, let me know there if you want to keep it going.

 

 

 

 

 

Ali as I already said and want to get it back on topic:

 

I believe you should do what will make you happy. If you will have flabby flesh, it makes perfect sense that you would want to tighten that up a little.

 

I don't know how fast things are progressing for you, will this be soon or still way down the road?

 

Gee, could you ask that question with less tact or decorum?

 

I have 24 more lbs to lose before I hit the goal weight my doctor set for me. 36 if I want to hit a "magic" number on the scale that would make me happy, but if I start looking too gaunt then I'll stick with the original plan the doctor advised. I don't want to lose my curves!

 

The last 20 lbs to lose is always the most difficult, so I'm just going to have to work harder to do it. I'm thinking I can accomplish this by the new year or my birthday at the latest.

 

Depending on what happens with my business/moving/life in general, I'm hoping to have the surgery late spring if my doctor deems it necessary.

[Ahhlee]

I forgot to address this earlier and can't even recall which thread it was on or who mentioned it, but "motor boating" is NOT sexy to a woman. Not even remotely.

 

Personally, I want a man who knows what he's doing in bed. A MAN who desires to bring me as much pleasure as possible and treat me and my body with respect and even reverence. Some yokel who is going to do something as juvenille as make engine noises while he sprays spittle all over my breasts is a complete and utter turn off and doesn't deserve to be in my bed.

 

Just sayin'.

[timesjoke]

Gee, could you ask that question with less tact or decorum?

 

I guess I can't win for losing, lol.

 

I guess I didn't see a difference between the terms 'sagging skin' as you used in yoru first post and 'flabby flesh'. I certainly was not trying to be negative, in fact, the opposite, I was trying to be supportive.

 

 

 

I forgot to address this earlier and can't even recall which thread it was on or who mentioned it, but "motor boating" is NOT sexy to a woman. Not even remotely.

 

Personally, I want a man who knows what he's doing in bed. A MAN who desires to bring me as much pleasure as possible and treat me and my body with respect and even reverence. Some yokel who is going to do something as juvenille as make engine noises while he sprays spittle all over my breasts is a complete and utter turn off and doesn't deserve to be in my bed.

 

Just sayin'.

 

That was me too, lol.

 

I guess to me whatever makes two people happy and excited is important, not any one set schedule of limitations. To me making my partner happy is just as important as making myself happy, even more sometimes and that should go both ways.

 

Tami might or might not like me doing a motorboat, she sure seems to laugh and have fun with the experience but is it possible that she can take enjoyment from the fact I like it? Is having fun together mean everything between two people is always equally enjoyable at all times or do we sometimes do things with each other for the shared experiences and get pleasure because the one we love is enjoying themselves?

 

 

 

I love to give Tami foot rubs. The experience of running my hands on her feet is not really that great all by itself, the feel of her back or other areas would be much more pleasurable if I was looking for my own enjoyment, but the pleasure I feel has nothing to do with my own sense of touch/cotact with her feet.

 

I feel pleasure looking at how good it makes her feel. Her reaction to me rubbing her feet is very much satisfying to me.

 

Sometimes mutual pleasure is not just about you.

[Ahhlee]

Sometimes mutual pleasure is not just about you.

 

I'm well aware of that concept and know how to give a man pleasure. Believe me.

[timesjoke]

I'm well aware of that concept and know how to give a man pleasure. Believe me.

 

Never said you didn't, but you did say that the motorboat was juvenille and my point is so what? If your partner likes it does it really hurt you to experience it and do you not gain pleasure from your partner having pleasure? If it is really about both of you why would you think a motorboat is bad? You ever do a wet raspberry on a tummy? It is pretty much the same thing.

 

 

Then again, maybe I am a tad juvenille, and damn happy to be that way if being an adult means I have to be worried that my partner is going to get huffy and offended over a motorboat, give me a lady who is willing to act like a kid sometimes any day

[RoyalOrleans]

“Idiots and lunatics see only their own wit.”

 

Francois de la Rochefoucauld

[hugo]

I'm well aware of that concept and know how to give a man pleasure. Believe me.

 

I'm from Missouri. Ya gottta show me.

[atlantic]

We all know how timesjoke feels about elective surgery, but it is fine and dandy for his wife to get a boob job.

 

 

 

I want to get Lasik to correct my vision... I can't see sh!t without my glasses or contact lenses. It would be of great benefit, because I am way too vain to be seen in public with glasses.

 

My sister had the procedure done a few months ago and now she has perfect 20/20 vision. Not all circumstances are the same nor does the end result come out the same, but I believe that my results would be very close to my sister's situation.

Really RO, I think most men who wear glasses are sexy.

[Old Salt]

Really RO, I think most men who wear glasses are sexy.

<big glasses-wearing grin>

[RoyalOrleans]

Really RO, I think most men who wear glasses are sexy.

 

I wear "Buddy Holly" glasses.

[atlantic]

I wear "Buddy Holly" glasses.

Even better

[Ahhlee]

Never said you didn't, but you did say that the motorboat was juvenille and my point is so what? If your partner likes it does it really hurt you to experience it and do you not gain pleasure from your partner having pleasure? If it is really about both of you why would you think a motorboat is bad? You ever do a wet raspberry on a tummy? It is pretty much the same thing.

 

 

Then again, maybe I am a tad juvenille, and damn happy to be that way if being an adult means I have to be worried that my partner is going to get huffy and offended over a motorboat, give me a lady who is willing to act like a kid sometimes any day

 

Motorboating should be reserved for lakes and strippers.

 

I'm not surprised you enjoy engaging in such a juvenille act that is meant to humiliate a woman sexually and keep her "under control". Not surpised at all.

 

I'm from Missouri. Ya gottta show me.

 

You don't pronounce is "Mi-zer-uh", do you? That's kind of a deal breaker for me....

[timesjoke]

Motorboating should be reserved for lakes and strippers.

 

I'm not surprised you enjoy engaging in such a juvenille act that is meant to humiliate a woman sexually and keep her "under control". Not surpised at all.

 

While I am not surprised that you are a prude and believe there is only one correct method of sex/mutual pleasure seeking......yours.

 

 

 

By the way, I remember this topic comming up on the Jungle where a discussion started about a 'goldfish' cracker was giving a motorboat......you didn't say it was juvenille then, but of course it was not me saying it was fun so your opinion was different then, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, how in the hell is a motorboat designed to keep women "under control"? If anything men wanting access to the woman for said pleasure seeking would keep the men under the control of women.

 

 

I love the way you always try to make women sound like completely weak victims of men when it is the average man who kept in his place by women, the old saying, "women have half the money and all the vagina" comes to mind....

[Ahhlee]

While I am not surprised that you are a prude and believe there is only one correct method of sex/mutual pleasure seeking......yours.

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You are SO off the mark on this one! Oooooooh....hahaha! wipes away a tear of laughter

 

 

 

By the way, I remember this topic comming up on the Jungle where a discussion started about a 'goldfish' cracker was giving a motorboat......you didn't say it was juvenille then, but of course it was not me saying it was fun so your opinion was different then, lol.

 

Uhhhh, yeah because it was MEANT to be juvenille and not an actual form of fukken foreplay.

 

 

 

By the way, how in the hell is a motorboat designed to keep women "under control"? If anything men wanting access to the woman for said pleasure seeking would keep the men under the control of women.

 

 

Humiliating your partner sexually gives you the upper hand in the relationship. Basic Psychology. You like to imply that no one else here took that course but you....so did you sleep through it or what?

 

 

 

I love the way you always try to make women sound like completely weak victims of men when it is the average man who kept in his place by women, the old saying, "women have half the money and all the vagina" comes to mind....

 

I love the way you never shut the fuk up.

[timesjoke]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You are SO off the mark on this one! Oooooooh....hahaha! wipes away a tear of laughter

 

If you really believe anything two consenting adults do for mutual pleasure is juvenille just because "you" find it offensive then yes, you are a prude because that really is what a true prude believes. It is not like prudes do not ever have sex, just that their only willing to have a very narrow avenue of sexuality considered as 'good' and will call everything else 'bad'.

 

I guess play acting and sex dates are also juvenille because it involves the imagination and 'play' leading up to and after the actual sex act itself.

 

 

Uhhhh, yeah because it was MEANT to be juvenille and not an actual form of fukken foreplay.

 

As I remember it the actual act was discussed as well and you never called it juvenille then, your only doing it now because "I" said I think it is cool to be able to do them, your still on your "support my buddy eddo" kick because he is angry with me, you have to be angry and over critical with what I say too.

 

 

I asked you if you had ever performed a wet rasberry on a tummy before and you did not answer, I see them both as pretty much the same, in fact a 'motorboat' style of both male and female oral stimulation can be fun as well, where your causing a lot of vibrations that bring pleasure to sensative areas.

 

 

With a woman a motorboat leads to oral stimulating of the breasts, I personally spend a lot of time in those areas and find all of it very pleasurable and have never had any woman say she thought it was demeaning or bad in any way until you just now.

 

 

 

Humiliating your partner sexually gives you the upper hand in the relationship. Basic Psychology. You like to imply that no one else here took that course but you....so did you sleep through it or what?

 

But that is in the mind of the people involved. Take S&M for example, is is the person receiving the pain that is actually in control, not the person giving it. Without true understanding of sexuality the prude will never be able to understand the realities.

 

Straight missionary possition sex is humiliating to a woman who feels they are a victim of men. No single act is demeaning to a woman who enjoys the act, she is a willing partner and feels enjoyment and satisfaction from the experience because true sex is a two way street, both equally giving and taking in the activities.

 

 

 

I love the way you never shut the fuk up.

 

Well I post as you do, to speak my mind. You can shut up too you know, it goes both ways.

 

My point is that every time you take a possition it is to try and show women as weak victims of men, why is it everything women volunteer to do it a man's fault? You blame everything from porn to now even a playful motorboat on men subjecting women to their control......can you not see a possibility that maybe some women may like a motorboat? That some women like to earn a living in the sex trade?

 

Not all women share your narrow view of mutual exploration/enjoyment/sex?

[snafu]

If your playing with your spouses tits and give her a raspberry in between she can either slap you up side the head or giggle and grab your nuts. It's all up to the people at play for god sakes.

[timesjoke]

If your playing with your spouses tits and give her a raspberry in between she can either slap you up side the head or giggle and grab your nuts. It's all up to the people at play for god sakes.

 

Exactly, thanks for that snaf.

 

To each their own, as long as they are not messing with the livestock, I mean that is just sick thinking what may have been happening to that steak before it made it to your plate...........

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Not all women share your narrow view of mutual exploration/enjoyment/sex?

 

Not all women like to be subjected to the fancies of a fullgrown manchild who thinks juvenile antics, a la motorboat, is a means of exploring sexuality.

[Ahhlee]

Not all women like to be subjected to the fancies of a fullgrown manchild who thinks juvenile antics, a la motorboat, is a means of exploring sexuality.

 

It's refreshing to hear from a MAN who has outgrown such frat boy games.

 

Thank you, RO.