Plastic surgery

[timesjoke]

Typical. So predictable. TJ - What you don't say and what you demonstrate speaks a lot more for you. Nobody buys that.

 

No your not able to offer a reply as to how you can be sure anything I post is the "real" me and that is my point.

 

 

You let your true intent out of the bag in the chat box, all you want to do is "toss darts" at whatever I post. There is nothing in it for me, so why dance to your tune Chi?

 

 

Will you completely stop all negative posts to and about me? Make that promise and then there is an upside for me, give me a reason there is a positive side to give you more of my personal information.

[Chi]

No your not able to offer a reply as to how you can be sure anything I post is the "real" me and that is my point.

 

 

You let your true intent out of the bag in the chat box, all you want to do is "toss darts" at whatever I post. There is nothing in it for me, so why dance to your tune Chi?

 

 

Will you completely stop all negative posts to and about me? Make that promise and then there is an upside for me, give me a reason there is a positive side to give you more of my personal information.

 

Hell no, no deal. The day you stop being a jackass is the day I quit being "negative" to you. The pluses will be more respect towards you for taking a step to backing what you say for once. And credibility. Take it or leave it. I'm guessing you'll leave it because you are more than looking for any excuse to punk out. Prove me wrong.

[timesjoke]

Hell no, no deal. The day you stop being a jackass is the day I quit being "negative" to you. The pluses will be more respect towards you for taking a step to backing what you say for once. And credibility. Take it or leave it. I'm guessing you'll leave it because you are more than looking for any excuse to punk out. Prove me wrong.

 

Nice try but you still cannot show how you can be sure any picture I post is real.

 

You even said you wanted to have everyone debate any picture I post to see if you believe it is me or not. Why would I willingly add to your constant stream of attempts to question my truthfulness?

 

 

Any picture I post you will claim is false, there is no possible way for me to gain anything positive so I see no reason to do it. Everything I post you claim is lie, why would I ever expect you to say a picture I post is any different?

[Chi]

Nice try but you still cannot show how you can be sure any picture I post is real.

 

You even said you wanted to have everyone debate any picture I post to see if you believe it is me or not. Why would I willingly add to your constant stream of attempts to question my truthfulness?

 

 

Any picture I post you will claim is false, there is no possible way for me to gain anything positive so I see no reason to do it. Everything I post you claim is lie, why would I ever expect you to say a picture I post is any different?

 

This is tiring. Eddo already named off a ton of ways to prove it. You can also take a picture with that day's newspaper next to you. Come on, stop with the lame excuses already.

[timesjoke]

This is tiring. Eddo already named off a ton of ways to prove it. You can also take a picture with that day's newspaper next to you. Come on, stop with the lame excuses already.

 

Right, I can get one of my buddies to hold a newspaper, what does that prove? Your dodging the point, anything I post cannot be "Proven" to be me, so trying to fall into your trap will end in me never meeting an endless stream of requested "proof" of who I am all without any chance of ever reducing any of the negative actions you constantly pour on me so where is the up side for me to jump through your hoops Chi?

 

 

 

The only reason you want my photo is to have something new to flame me about, period.

[eddo]

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meh, put up or shut up. Two options, do one.

[Chi]

Right, I can get one of my buddies to hold a newspaper, what does that prove? Your dodging the point, anything I post cannot be "Proven" to be me, so trying to fall into your trap will end in me never meeting an endless stream of requested "proof" of who I am all without any chance of ever reducing any of the negative actions you constantly pour on me so where is the up side for me to jump through your hoops Chi?

 

The only reason you want my photo is to have something new to flame me about, period.

 

I didn't even think of that. Interesting how your mind works. Alright, you win. But it speaks volumes and lines up with all your other craptalking. NONE OF IT CAN BE BACKED UP BY YOU. Period.

 

Oh, and after this, don't talk crap about Eddo or anyone else who at least has the backbone to post their pic.

[timesjoke]

Well I had no idea you were the boss of me eddo, well I suppose I will just continue to not see you as haivng any say in the matter and say again, show me the up side for me offering you guys more ammunition to flame me?

 

 

The only reason your so worked up to get my picture is to give you fresh material to flame me on, no matter what I post I will be attacked so why even do it?

[timesjoke]

I didn't even think of that. Interesting how your mind works. Alright, you win. But it speaks volumes and lines up with all your other craptalking. NONE OF IT CAN BE BACKED UP BY YOU. Period.

 

Oh, and after this, don't talk crap about Eddo or anyone else who at least has the backbone to post their pic.

 

Right, like you didn,t think of it as part of your plan to flame me no matter what I posted. Your not stupid, you know there is no way to be 100% sure the picture is real or not and you were counting on that to have more excuses to flame me, I am smarter than that Chi.

 

Conservative, not liberal.

 

 

And eddo can be posting pictures of his man lover, I don't know if that is him or not and even if it is, he is part of your sewing circle, he know he will be protected because those who would turn to that kind of flames is you guys.

[Chi]

Right, like you didn,t think of it as part of your plan to flame me no matter what I posted. Your not stupid, you know there is no way to be 100% sure the picture is real or not and you were counting on that to have more excuses to flame me, I am smarter than that Chi.

 

Conservative, not liberal.

 

 

And eddo can be posting pictures of his man lover, I don't know if that is him or not and even if it is, he is part of your sewing circle, he know he will be protected because those who would turn to that kind of flames is you guys.

 

Yes, you know it all. Don't know why I even attempted to pull one over the all knowing, all seeing, all future predicting Great non-liberal, but Conservative TJ:rolleyes:

[eddo]

And eddo can be posting pictures of his man lover, I don't know if that is him or not and even if it is, he is part of your sewing circle, he know he will be protected because those who would turn to that kind of flames is you guys.

 

yep, it very well could be.

 

But, it's not. and how do you know? well, you don't. because you won't.

 

See, many of us have taking the time to know and trust each other over the years. Sure we disagree at times, but we know each other away from here- because we want to. You have never wanted to be anything more than a troll, so that is how you get treated- and yes, you started it. You have looked down your nose at every one of us, all the while claiming how great and awesome you are- while offering zero proof to anyone of who or what you really are.

 

Ali and I have had fights. hell, the epic site tri-site wars pitted Ali and I against each other. Chi and I have had some pretty epic disagreements in the past.

But yet we moved through it.

 

You, however, say you want to move through it, and then at first chance- there you are looking down your nose at us- again with no proof of who you really are. You are arrogant, stubborn, and frankly, a whiner. I won't come right out and call you a liar, but your off site actions are certainly suspect. You are involved in anything and everything, and are an expert on everything under the sun.

You claim to be above name calling, but you are among the first to delve into it.

You claim to speak for men everywhere, but get upset when others make generalizations that include you.

You pick at people for their weight, but by your own admission, you too are obese.

You post over and over when people dodge questions, yet you dodge them all the time yourself.

You detest when people put words in your mouth, but you are the king of knowing what everyone else means and thinks when they post.

You are concerned about your pic being used to make attacks personal, but that is all you have done to me personally today- attacking my life, my work, and my weight.

 

So put up or shut up. or if you must- continue hanging around a place that by your own definition is nothing but ugly and negative to you (and in your own mind is of no fault of your own, I'm sure.) Troll away. Do not be confused- you are a troll. You have no desire to be part of the community here. You just want to fight and bicker. But really, be my guest. Eventually people will tire of the fights and either quit coming around and posting or the mods will do something to rectify the situation.

[ImWithStupid]

Why couldn't you scan in your driver's license along with a pic of you holding a current newspaper to show it's what you look like now?

 

Just a thought because I really couldn't give a sh!t if you post a pic or not.

[Chi]

Why couldn't you scan in your driver's license along with a pic of you holding a current newspaper to show it's what you look like now?

 

Just a thought because I really couldn't give a sh!t if you post a pic or not.

 

Let me give you a few of his predictable responses. We will still find a way to be negative and nasty about his picture and hurt his delicate sensibilities. Or we will say he paid off his cousin's baby momma's brother who works at the DMV with altering his DL or say he had his good looking friend pose with his DL and a newspaper:rolleyes:.

[Ahhlee]

I offered to let Ali stay with me, well not with me but in my river house, I really meant that and not just to try and be helpful but because to me, that is really the only way any of you would ever stop this BS game. But now that I think about it, Ali would never let go of the only tool of attack she still has. If suddenly I had a hard witness I am telling the truth, all of the flames would have to stop, and you guys love the flame game too much to ever willingly let it end.

 

I would sooner slit my own wrists, lie in the roasting, agonizing sun of the Sahara Desert and be torn apart alive...sunburned and bleeding....by a pack of jackals than stay at your river house.

 

Oh, keep your face private, TJ. When I come down to Georgia to tour my school, I'll not be inviting you along with the rest of us when I take everyone out for supper. I mean, we want to have a good time after all.

 

Besides, I'd hate for you to be seen in public with a fat ass like myself. You have a stellar reputation to uphold! And frankly, the thought of watching you throw yourself all over RO...since you are clearly a closet gay...doesn't sound too appealing.

 

So while you are protecting your face and privacy from God knows what or who, the rest of us will be enjoying ourselves immensely.....and NOT at the Outback since when I entertain friends, I like to treat them to someplace classy, not the fast-fukken-food of steakhouses.

 

My friends deserve the best.

[emkay64]

No bloomin' onions Ali?!!!!

[timesjoke]

yep, it very well could be.

 

But, it's not. and how do you know? well, you don't. because you won't.

 

See, many of us have taking the time to know and trust each other over the years. Sure we disagree at times, but we know each other away from here- because we want to. You have never wanted to be anything more than a troll, so that is how you get treated- and yes, you started it. You have looked down your nose at every one of us, all the while claiming how great and awesome you are- while offering zero proof to anyone of who or what you really are.

 

Ali and I have had fights. hell, the epic site tri-site wars pitted Ali and I against each other. Chi and I have had some pretty epic disagreements in the past.

But yet we moved through it.

 

You, however, say you want to move through it, and then at first chance- there you are looking down your nose at us- again with no proof of who you really are. You are arrogant, stubborn, and frankly, a whiner. I won't come right out and call you a liar, but your off site actions are certainly suspect. You are involved in anything and everything, and are an expert on everything under the sun.

You claim to be above name calling, but you are among the first to delve into it.

You claim to speak for men everywhere, but get upset when others make generalizations that include you.

You pick at people for their weight, but by your own admission, you too are obese.

You post over and over when people dodge questions, yet you dodge them all the time yourself.

You detest when people put words in your mouth, but you are the king of knowing what everyone else means and thinks when they post.

You are concerned about your pic being used to make attacks personal, but that is all you have done to me personally today- attacking my life, my work, and my weight.

 

So put up or shut up. or if you must- continue hanging around a place that by your own definition is nothing but ugly and negative to you (and in your own mind is of no fault of your own, I'm sure.) Troll away. Do not be confused- you are a troll. You have no desire to be part of the community here. You just want to fight and bicker. But really, be my guest. Eventually people will tire of the fights and either quit coming around and posting or the mods will do something to rectify the situation.

 

 

Well this is filled with lies and not really worth the time to line by line it so let me keep this short and to the point.

 

 

Everything you say is negative so why ever trust you?

 

Let's look at this one line because it is the one requiring the shortest reply to disprove it:

 

You pick at people for their weight, but by your own admission, you too are obese.

 

I never said I was obese, you said based on some chart I was obese for my height but you did not account for body mass and how muscle weighs more than fat. With no fat on me, none, I weighed 230 pounds. You ignore the facts and make up your own reality that are in fact lies to justify your hate and bad behaviors eddo.

 

Am I over weight? Yes, but I am a far cry from obese.

 

 

 

All I have ever done is be as honest as I can be, I can never prove something is true that you have made up your mind is false no matter what I do so I will not even try.

 

If all you want to see is the negative, then you will find it even if it is not there.

 

 

 

 

So why am I here? I don't know, maybe I like a challenge? Maybe I love the chance to face adversity and fight through it? You said you and Ali were in very bad times before, did you just run away or stick to it even if you were facing a very negative situation? I don't think I am a member here or anywhere else for any one reason, but I am not here for a dating service, lol.

 

I don't see anyone here as purly bad except Wez, and I don't think his childish behaviors are 100% his fault, but like humpty dumpty, that egg is broken and there is no hope for ever fixing it so I just feel it is better to ignore his pure garbage.

 

 

When You speak about or to me, that is 100% ugly, I don't know why but anyone interested in the truth does not have to take my word for it can simply look for themselves. So the way you treat me is not in question, the only question to everyone on this board is 'why'? I am sure you feel justified but where does the drive to be ugly come from?

 

I am not Mangiafuoco eddo, you do what you want to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ali,

 

My offer was sincere, you seem to put extra work into holding onto grudges Ali, I will not give up though, because in my heart, there is no room for grudges or hate.

 

 

My hand is out to you if you ever want to take it.

 

 

 

But I think I know why you really don't want me at your party, your scared my dancing will show you up too much, I understand

[RoyalOrleans]

My hand is out to you if you ever want to take it.

 

Ohh... you're a fukken prince.

 

You extend your hand in friendship, kindness, and whatever reason bloats your ego; I see one claw of a self-righteous troglodyte.

[timesjoke]

Ohh... you're a fukken prince.

 

You extend your hand in friendship, kindness, and whatever reason bloats your ego; I see one claw of a self-righteous troglodyte.

 

lol, well as I keep pointing out, those who only want to see the worse, will always find it, even if it is not there.

[mercury]

You're taking us to Applebee's aren't you?

[Ahhlee]

Ali,

 

My offer was sincere, you seem to put extra work into holding onto grudges Ali, I will not give up though, because in my heart, there is no room for grudges or hate.

 

 

My hand is out to you if you ever want to take it.

 

 

 

But I think I know why you really don't want me at your party, your scared my dancing will show you up too much, I understand

 

 

The martyr act doesn't become you, nor will it work on me.

 

I want nothing from you, TJ. I'm not willing to pay the toll you require to be your "friend" because I have a sneaking suspicion that the cost is too high and is set up to be paid in infinite increments.

 

 

 

Ohh... you're a fukken prince.

 

You extend your hand in friendship, kindness, and whatever reason bloats your ego; I see one claw of a self-righteous troglodyte.

lol, well as I keep pointing out, those who only want to see the worse, will always find it, even if it is not there.

 

 

I think RO is seeing right through your transparency with his Buddy Holly spectacles. Your actions are self-serving and not intended whatsoever to make true amends.

 

 

 

You're taking us to Applebee's aren't you?

 

 

I was thinking Arby's. We'll sneak some booze in under our jackets.

[timesjoke]

The martyr act doesn't become you, nor will it work on me.

 

I want nothing from you, TJ. I'm not willing to pay the toll you require to be your "friend" because I have a sneaking suspicion that the cost is too high and is set up to be paid in infinite increments.

 

The only cost would be to finally put an end to all these claims about me not being honest, I will admit to that much of a personal agenda to offer you this but more than that I really do not mind helping anyone I believe I can trust.

 

 

You see Ali, unlike yourself I do not try to imply your bad as a person just because I do not like some of the things you do or say against me. I know most of your actions are a misguided form of severe and sometimes exaggerated need to be protective of your circle of friends.

 

Similar to how some gay men exaggerate the 'female' persona in their attempt to overcome their lack of being a "true" girl.

 

 

So I know you will not trash or othewise cause harm to my property and in fact after I made you the offer the first time I told Tami that if you did decide to take me up on my offer, that you would find some way to pay me back in an original way because I sense that is just how you would respond. I even went so far as to guess that you would try to make it very personal if you could.

 

 

But I still say you really don't want me at your party because I will show you up too much on the dance floor, believe me you are not the first lady to think it unfair that such a handsome and sexy man like me can also dance so well and get a little Intimidated from that

 

 

 

I think RO is seeing right through your transparency with his Buddy Holly spectacles. Your actions are self-serving and not intended whatsoever to make true amends.

 

Just like a few days ago he said many of you only dissagree with me because you think it is a kind of fun exploit or game for you. RO is always all over the place, one minute one guy, the next minute a completely different guy. He even admits to likeing to come start fights, I take him at face value, whatever face he is showing that day is how I will deal with him.

 

I like a lot of what he says but other times he is full of gas, just like me sometimes, maybe that is why he is infatuated with me, I can't help it, I have a lot of people fawning over me these days

[snafu]

I like a lot of what he says but other times he is full of gas, just like me sometimes, maybe that is why he is infatuated with me, I can't help it, I have a lot of people fawning over me these days

 

They do seem to flock around you. You must be something special to get all this attention.