Guest NewsBot Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Take responsibility for your education. Go to class and listen. Don't let failures define you.... By ANN SANNER More... Quote
Chi Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Take responsibility for your education. Go to class and listen. Don't let failures define you.... By ANN SANNER More... Oh no, the horror! I should have kept my children home today!!! Can't have them hearing messages 'brainwashing' them to be responsible, to do well and stay in school! Quote
eddo Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Given the political climate, I would feel better about having my child involved in this if I had a printed copy of the speech first. and that is mostly because I don't agree with much of what Obama wants to do with the country. From what I have read, this speech seems all on the up and up. I think it is good to have the President make non-politically driven (HAHAHA!!!) speeches to school children. I remember back in the day Nancy Regan doing the whole "Say No to drugs" bit, and how much of an impact it made on me. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
emkay64 Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Some people just like complaining and making protest signs. Must be all the glitter and sniffing of markers. Good grief...his speech sounded on point to me. Just many don't like him so they don't want to hear anything he has to say. If the message is great, I don't care who delivers it. What a bunch of uneducated morons. 1 Quote
atlantic Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I would much rather have President Obama speak to my son's class than to have my son come home with Mormon religious icon stickers on his schoolwork like he did last week. Quote Do the right thing!
emkay64 Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I would much rather have President Obama speak to my son's class than to have my son come home with Mormon stickers on his schoolwork like he did last week. What zee fukk!!! I concur! Quote
atlantic Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 What zee fukk!!! I concur! I was more than shocked, and hope I do not see anymore of those. We are Catholic and I prefer my son be raised that way. Quote Do the right thing!
emkay64 Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I was more than shocked, and hope I do not see anymore of those. We are Catholic and I prefer my son be raised that way. Religion is a touchy subject. We haven't really had any of that stuff show up in the school yet. Actually...after my last comment...I kinda re-thought lol. I think I'd be fine with it. My kids come home asking a lot of questions and it would be a good talking opportunity. There isn't any right or wrong religion...so I guess hearing about a bunch...they can make their own decisions later in life. As long as they weren't pushing for membership..or meetings etc...I'd be ok. That being said...last Christmas...the kids got to share their Christmas traditions...we have a lot of ethnicity in the school...and I loved the diversity in traditions. Although..."Black Peter"...scared them a little lol. Quote
atlantic Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Religion is a touchy subject. We haven't really had any of that stuff show up in the school yet. Actually...after my last comment...I kinda re-thought lol. I think I'd be fine with it. My kids come home asking a lot of questions and it would be a good talking opportunity. There isn't any right or wrong religion...so I guess hearing about a bunch...they can make their own decisions later in life. As long as they weren't pushing for membership..or meetings etc...I'd be ok. That being said...last Christmas...the kids got to share their Christmas traditions...we have a lot of ethnicity in the school...and I loved the diversity in traditions. Although..."Black Peter"...scared them a little lol. I like diversity as well, but I wonder what would be said if I sent him to school with Rosary beads. pssst: Don't use the name Peter around Ali it makes her giggle 1 Quote Do the right thing!
emkay64 Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Hmmm...I dunno what would happen? Rosary beads would be fine no? I don't see a big problem with that. If discussing mormonism is okay, then tolerance of ALL faiths should be practiced if they are bringing religion into the schools. LOL...Black Peter makes her giggle more! Quote
timesjoke Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Oh no, the horror! I should have kept my children home today!!! Can't have them hearing messages 'brainwashing' them to be responsible, to do well and stay in school! You most likely do not know that there were a lot of things dropped after people complained. The original speach Obama had planned to make included him asking the kids to get political and to help him (Obama) to make change happen. There were assignments like "how can you help Obama" and such. What he delivered was okay, but what he planned to deliver before the change was not okay. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Oh no, the horror! I should have kept my children home today!!! Can't have them hearing messages 'brainwashing' them to be responsible, to do well and stay in school! Your right. The Republicans should have behaved much more civil like the Democrats would do in this situation... when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue. Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after, not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported. With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'" Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. "The hearing this morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC," Ford began. "As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event." When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings | Washington Examiner Hold Congressional hearings and try to bring charges against Obama through the GAO. Fukkin' hypocrites. Quote
hugo Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 One problem many minority students face is being accused of "acting white' if they study hard. No one is better positioned than Barack Obama to undermine that atttitude. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 One problem many minority students face is being accused of "acting white' if they study hard. No one is better positioned than Barack Obama to undermine that atttitude. While at the same time is enabling the mindset of being a victim of whitie with his calling the police stupid for doing their jobs. Obama plays the race card all the time, over and over during the campaign to avoid most of the questions of substance and even today where your considered a racist if your not blindly following his plan for America. If you ask me he is doing more harm by being a race pimp. Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iqsxCWjCvI&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Pres. Obama National Address to Students[/ame] Well .. he stuck to the script, and by last evening the people who had been in such a panic over the president's speech to the nation's school children were looking, shall we say, foolish. It was actually a very strong event for Obama. He got to deliver a good positive message to the nation's school children and, in the process, he got to embarrass his opponents. And he did deliver a strong message of personal responsibility, finishing school, getting an education, etc, because those are ideals that no one can take away from you. This is one of the few times I applaud President Obama for not pandering to his agenda and his consituency. One problem .. the teleprompter. Obama delivered the speech at some high school near Washington and, predictably, had to use teleprompter. This meant that he was either looking 45 degrees to the left or right, but never directly into the camera. Most of Obama's audience was out there on the other side of that TV camera, and that's where he should have been looking. Not once did he actually look the children in classrooms across America in the eye. Since we're talking Obama here, I just had to find a criticism. There are bigger fish in the frying pan: auto bailouts not going to be repaid, the grand stimulus bill's ineffectiveness, the government takeover of healthcare, the global warming bullsh!t, et. al. I can't hardly jump on board and criticize the president for delivering a positive message to government school children. 1 Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Chi Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Your right. The Republicans should have behaved much more civil like the Democrats would do in this situation... When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings | Washington Examiner Hold Congressional hearings and try to bring charges against Obama through the GAO. Fukkin' hypocrites. Again with the division crap. "Well, they did it fiiirst", very mature. I'm sure there were a lot of people who identify themselves as Republicans who weren't so ignorant, up in arms and making a big deal about nothing and let their kids see the speech. I haven't watched the speech yet, but whether or not he was looking at the camera, reading from a teleprompter, etc. he positively inspired a lot of kids. And that is the main point and all that matters. Quote
Ahhlee Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 One problem many minority students face is being accused of "acting white' if they study hard. No one is better positioned than Barack Obama to undermine that atttitude. That is very true. We have a black man leading the greatest nation in the world right now. There's no reason for minority children to think there is anything that can hold them back in life so long as they work hard and keep their goals in sight. Now, if we could only get a WOMAN elected as Chief of State...... 1 Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Again with the division crap. "Well, they did it fiiirst", very mature. I'm sure there were a lot of people who identify themselves as Republicans who weren't so ignorant, up in arms and making a big deal about nothing and let their kids see the speech. I haven't watched the speech yet, but whether or not he was looking at the camera, reading from a teleprompter, etc. he positively inspired a lot of kids. And that is the main point and all that matters. My point was that the Republicans didn't do it. Not who did what first. There was actually very little objection by Republicans once Obama took out his political ideology out of the equation. Nearly all the objections were from individuals, not actual elected Republicans, because they don't act like Democrats. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 That is very true. We have a black man leading the greatest nation in the world right now. There's no reason for minority children to think there is anything that can hold them back in life so long as they work hard and keep their goals in sight. Now, if we could only get a WOMAN elected as Chief of State...... I'm still hoping that women can lose their right to vote, let alone hold public office. Quote
hugo Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Now, if we could only get a WOMAN elected as Chief of State...... Let's not go too far here. Our real problem is our kids are being taught by members of a far left trade union for a dozen years. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Our real problem is our kids are being taught by members of a far left trade union for a dozen years. Take away the unions and you open the door to a better government run education system. If I am ever to have children of my own, I will definitely send them to private school. If it breaks the bank, if I have to work three jobs, etc... I won't let a government official indoctrinate my kid to a world of servitude and mediocrity. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Ahhlee Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Let's not go too far here. You're such an ass....LOL!!!! Our real problem is our kids are being taught by members of a far left trade union for a dozen years. Agreed! Naturally the majority are going to vote, lean and live left so as not to bite the hand that feeds them. Take away the unions and you open the door to a better government run education system. If I am ever to have children of my own, I will definitely send them to private school. If it breaks the bank, if I have to work three jobs, etc... I won't let a government official indoctrinate my kid to a world of servitude and mediocrity. Oh my God, I've said the exact same thing! Had I had children, I'd have wanted them to go to private school and I will work damn hard to supplement their education with exposure to as many principles, ideologies, religious beliefs, and cultures as possible. The more they know about the world, the WHOLE world, the better equipped they will be as adults. The idea of my kids "just gettin' by" turns my stomach. I'd want SO much more for them, the precious little darlings! My brother and his wife are sending their kids to our local school, but the nice thing is it's small enough and conservative enough that my niece and nephew won't fall through the cracks. Needless to say, I want more for them, too. Quote
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