More ACORN madness

[timesjoke]

You know, folks, I am sick of this argument. We saw it coming, we knew it would get here, and we know it's never going to go away .. but it's tiring nonetheless.

 

This is nothing new. For decades the left has pulled out the race card whenever things start going the other way. The race card is so deeply ingrained in so many of these people that there is no way in the world they can keep from playing it. The social equation is so profoundly easy with them.

 

 

But I really think it is backfiring on them, Obama has been playing the race card over and over again for over a year now, always to block discussing things he cannot face.

 

 

But now the people are finally starting to get it, Obama and company are upsetting the moderates who are finally starting to see that people are not racists just because they do not agree with Obama.

 

 

 

 

I hope this is true, because things will finally be forced into real discussion and possible change........the change we were promised from the start.

[timesjoke]

Another ACORN office:

 

Second Video Shows ACORN Officials Helping 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' in Washington Office - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

 

 

"One day after two ACORN officials in Baltimore were fired for offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute to engage in child prostitution and a series of tax crimes, another secretly shot videotape has surfaced that shows the same couple getting similar advice from ACORN officers in Washington."

 

 

 

 

"The ACORN employee later suggests that O'Keefe, who said he had a budding political career, not linger at the house in case people "put the dots together" and leave him "smeared and tarnished" by his association with his prostitute girlfriend. She should keep her business "low key," the employee continued, saying "You have neighbors and they see stuff. Don't think that people won't get on the telephone and call Fox."

 

 

 

 

 

Call FOX?

 

It is incredible how these people see the only news group that would be interested in a crime is FOX news, is this even more evidence that everyone knows that all the other Networks have stopped reporting the news and are nothing more than extensions of the Democrat party?

[RoyalOrleans]

Association of Criminals Organized to Ruin the Nation

[timesjoke]

Association of Criminals Organized to Ruin the Nation

 

 

 

So your a racist

[phreakwars]

No TJ, it's the truth. Obama has NEVER played the race card, he is above that, NAME ONE TIME HE HAS EVER USED THE RACE CARD, but he does have people who will call it out when it's obvious as hell.

 

It's just disgusting, simply disgusting.

 

I love that hypocrisy used as justification saying "Well you guys did this and that and said this and that about Bush".

 

BULLSHlT, Bush had his chance, had strong support, he blew it by lying to Americans and killing troops.

 

I wonder, why is this attitude "GOVERNMENT IS BAD" something carried by alot of service men? Is it because you feel like an idiot being a patsy for the government? Government is bad.... unless of course they want you to kill someone for them.

 

If that's the case, I would have to agree. Ya sign up on the premise that your duty is to serve the country and protect the citizens only to be sent off to kill innocent people who have NOTHING to do with the terrorist attacks on our nation? Yeah I'd hate "BIG GOVERNMENT" too after that boondoggle, it makes you look like a fukking chump. Just like many of the Vietnam soldiers feel. But, of course, on principal, it doesn't matter that you were lied to, the President at the time was a Republican, so no reason to hold him accountable for abuse of government.

 

Obama on the other hand, can't make one move without someone screaming for his impeachment, calling him a Nazi socialist Muslim commie child indoctrinating Marxist, blah blah blah...

 

It's disgusting. As for your claim "people are waking up" ... waking up, or just getting dumber by the days? I vote for the later.

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[hugo]

No TJ, But, of course, on principal, it doesn't matter that you were lied to, the President at the time was a Republican, so no reason to hold him accountable for abuse of government.

 

Obama on the other hand, can't make one move without someone screaming for his impeachment, calling him a Nazi socialist Muslim commie child indoctrinating Marxist, blah blah blah...

 

It's disgusting. As for your claim "people are waking up" ... waking up, or just getting dumber by the days? I vote for the later.

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Bender is right. When GW was growing federal domestic spending at a faster rate than any President since LBJ, running huge deficits in times of prosperity, and expanding the federal government's role in education and healthcare where was the dissent from the vast majority of Republicans? Why did a Republican President and congress massively expand government?

[RoyalOrleans]

Bender is right. When GW was growing federal domestic spending at a faster rate than any President since LBJ, running huge deficits in times of prosperity, and expanding the federal government's role in education and healthcare where was the dissent from the vast majority of Republicans? Why did a Republican President and congress massively expand government?

 

I think I may have posted these naughty little nibbly bits comparing G. Dubya to the Common Era's definition of "Liberal" (Perhaps Progressive Democrat?):

 

?Bush signed into law a campaign finance reform bill that is an affront to free speech. That's not very conservative.

 

 

? Bush, with Teddy Kennedy's help, pushed through the 'No Child Left Behind' act, which instituted unprecedented federal control over our school system. That's not conservative at all.

 

 

? Under President Bush, government spending has grown faster and government has grown larger than at any time in our history. An entirely new government agency has been created....The Department of Homeland Security. Growing government by leaps and bounds? Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave....and that's not very conservative.

 

 

? George W. Bush pushed and signed into law the prescription drug program for Medicare. This is billions and billions in new entitlement spending not even his fellow Texan LBJ could dream of. It was one of the single biggest expansions of welfare spending in decades. Not conservative.

 

 

? Bush's complete inaction on illegal immigration and his policy of looking the other way on border security and allowing as many illegal aliens in as want to come it not only outrageous, it's not conservative.

 

Buckley: Bush Not A True Conservative

 

And use the Common Era's definition of "conservative".

[Old Salt]

ACORN had been contracted to help do the 2010 US census. The census bureau just announced that they're breaking ties with ACORN. Probably had a lot to do with the hidden camera footage.

[timesjoke]

No TJ, it's the truth. Obama has NEVER played the race card, he is above that, NAME ONE TIME HE HAS EVER USED THE RACE CARD, but he does have people who will call it out when it's obvious as hell.

 

It's just disgusting, simply disgusting.

 

I love that hypocrisy used as justification saying "Well you guys did this and that and said this and that about Bush".

 

BULLSHlT, Bush had his chance, had strong support, he blew it by lying to Americans and killing troops.

 

I wonder, why is this attitude "GOVERNMENT IS BAD" something carried by alot of service men? Is it because you feel like an idiot being a patsy for the government? Government is bad.... unless of course they want you to kill someone for them.

 

If that's the case, I would have to agree. Ya sign up on the premise that your duty is to serve the country and protect the citizens only to be sent off to kill innocent people who have NOTHING to do with the terrorist attacks on our nation? Yeah I'd hate "BIG GOVERNMENT" too after that boondoggle, it makes you look like a fukking chump. Just like many of the Vietnam soldiers feel. But, of course, on principal, it doesn't matter that you were lied to, the President at the time was a Republican, so no reason to hold him accountable for abuse of government.

 

Obama on the other hand, can't make one move without someone screaming for his impeachment, calling him a Nazi socialist Muslim commie child indoctrinating Marxist, blah blah blah...

 

It's disgusting. As for your claim "people are waking up" ... waking up, or just getting dumber by the days? I vote for the later.

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Even you said us not agreeing with Obama's vision means we are racist Bender, sure you soft pan it but it is all designed to stop discussion because you can't face the actual questions.

 

 

 

Here again you dip into attacking Bush because you cannot answer the direct questions asked of you. I have put down Bush many times for the things he has done, I took issue all the time, funny that you "NEVER" find fault with anything Obama does. Your just an excuse machine.

[ImWithStupid]

No TJ, it's the truth. Obama has NEVER played the race card, he is above that, NAME ONE TIME HE HAS EVER USED THE RACE CARD, but he does have people who will call it out when it's obvious as hell.

 

It's just disgusting, simply disgusting.

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Sen. Barack Obama's chief strategist conceded that the Democratic presidential candidate was referring to his race when he said Republicans were trying to scare voters by suggesting Obama "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

Obama Aide Concedes 'Dollar Bill' Remark Referred to His Race - ABC News

 

 

You're right. It is simply disgusting that Obama played the race card and has allowed his surrogates to do so over and over since being elected, any time someone disagrees with him or his policy.

[timesjoke]

Is that not the point IWS?

 

Bender knows that Obama has made race comments before and certainly the Cop thing was entirely motivated by race, but my biggest point is the surrogates you mention. Hundreds of times close advisors and even his campaign workers would play the race card and Obama never came out against it.

 

 

Like Bender's comment:

 

 

Just like you can say... well, this by itself isn't a problem, but add up this and that and that, it leaves me suspicious, I have to say, sure maybe nobody flat out says anything racist, but add up this and this and that, and it all becomes VERY clear.

 

 

Obama does not flat out play the race card, but "NOT" putting down the claims of his surrogates is the same thing as saying it himself.

[RoyalOrleans]

While we are on the topic, everyone knows that the Asian woman who called a foot-fault on Serena Williams over the weekend is a die-hard racist and probably has a white sheet and hood in the back of her car.

[timesjoke]

While we are on the topic, everyone knows that the Asian woman who called a foot-fault on Serena Williams over the weekend is a die-hard racist and probably has a white sheet and hood in the back of her car.

 

Did Obama come out and call the judges 'stupid' yet?

 

 

 

 

EDIT

 

 

Back on topic, a third video was release this time in new york:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549903,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r2:c0.058140:b27703568:z0

 

 

 

 

The part I love is where the ACORN management says they are going to sue FOX and everyone else, how can you act that way when your busted with your hand in the cookie jar? They know they are dead wrong and yet they are comming out on the attack like they are the victim? Please.

[phreakwars]

Someone should have stopped Bush while they had the chance. Acorn has gotten out of control.

 

ACORN funding ? a Republican philosophy?

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[hugo]

I am becoming more and more convinced that...as long as we are stuck with the two main parties...we are best off with a Democratic President and a Republican congress. Republicans seem to fight big government programs proposed by Democrats.

 

Of course, the big problem is that the President picks the Supreme Court nominee and that is one area where GW did not do a bad job.

[timesjoke]

Someone should have stopped Bush while they had the chance. Acorn has gotten out of control.

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lol, you quote Julie Driscoll?

 

Talk about digging deep for some way to try and blame this on Bush.......and is that not the normal tactic? Never take responsibility for nothing, blame racists, blame Bush, blame anything but never, ever admit to doing anything wrong......that is the excuse machine (Bender) motto.

 

 

 

Bush was not a real Conservative, he screwed up many times in my opinion, but there was not one conservative in charge of the day to day operations and policy decisions of ACORN. The activities of ACORN are what is at issue, not where they got their start.

 

 

Think of it like the ACLU, the laws were written by many people, but it took the ACLU to twist laws so badly that having a nativity display is a crime but killing someone is not..........

[phreakwars]

Man, and you accuse ME of making excuses for Obama.

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[ImWithStupid]

Someone should have stopped Bush while they had the chance. Acorn has gotten out of control.

 

ACORN funding ? a Republican philosophy?

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the majority of the funding for ACORN took place under the executive guidance of none other than George W, according to the Congressional record. Every year during the Bush administration, ACORN Housing Corporation received more than $1 million (from 2001, when George Bush became president, until 2008, the Bush administration provided over $13 million to ACORN)

I didn't know that $13 million was a "majority" of $53 million.

[timesjoke]

Man, and you accuse ME of making excuses for Obama.

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I didn't make up any excuses, your again trying to shrug off all blame on other people, I fully admit your right that some of the funding came from the Bush administration...........but Bush was never directly involved with the management of ACORN, Obama was.

 

Not one Conservative ever managed or worked at any ACORN branch so they have had nothing to do with the way 'business' has been run in that arena.

 

 

The thing is you can never find fault in their actual actions but you find all kinds of fault in anyone who is not a Liberal. I have been a fairly strong supporter of Bush over his 8 years but I have also blasted him many, many times for doing things I knew was wrong. Not once have I ever felt the need to blindly support him just because he was a conservative.

 

Maybe because I never saw him as a true conservative or then again maybe it is because I do not blindly follow anyone, but you would never catch me making up excuses for his behaviors when I knew he was wrong. One great example is when he joined liberals in their desire to offer amnesty to all illegals. I ranted against that crap because I did not care what his party was, what he wanted was bad for the Country and did not address any of the problems at hand. Still today America's borders are unsecured and Obama is not going to do anything about that either.

[phreakwars]

Ha!! ACORN is crap, everyone knows it, you'd just rather conveniently forget it's not just Obama who was involved in them.

 

But, at least the ACORN scandal will keep the tea baggers pre-occupied for a while. Can't honestly say I know of anybody else who gives a crap.

 

But whatever keeps your conspiracy filled mind happy when it comes to the President, carry on with the boring ACORN complaints.

 

If it's true you criticized Bush, then where were the screams of outrage back then? Seems to me the screamers were too busy patting the guy on the back to be outraged.

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[timesjoke]

Ha!! ACORN is crap, everyone knows it, you'd just rather conveniently forget it's not just Obama who was involved in them.

 

But, at least the ACORN scandal will keep the tea baggers pre-occupied for a while. Can't honestly say I know of anybody else who gives a crap.

 

But whatever keeps your conspiracy filled mind happy when it comes to the President, carry on with the boring ACORN complaints.

 

Obama is the product of many corrupt groups from his long involvement in that church to the Chicago machine to ACORN, etc.....

 

 

As I said before, any one association, even two, but group and person after person keeps comming up that show Obama is truly part of this mindset of corruption.

 

If it's true you criticized Bush, then where were the screams of outrage back then? Seems to me the screamers were too busy patting the guy on the back to be outraged.

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If?

 

I was then and I am now completely against many things Bush has done, too bad you can't ever say the same thing about Obama, your 100% excuse machine for your messiah.

[RoyalOrleans]

I was then and I am now completely against many things Bush has done, too bad you can't ever say the same thing about Obama, your 100% excuse machine for your messiah.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you here, but plead your case against Bender. Make a list of a few things that Bush did during his presidency, explain why you dislike them, and their repercussions.

[emkay64]

ACORN MADNESS!!!! I just keep thinking about rabid squirrels.

[phreakwars]

I know I have no clear complaints about Bush until after his second term when it was painfully obvious he broke the law, destroyed the constitution, and caused the unnecessary death of thousands of troops. That just really didn't sit to well with me.

 

Had he NOT lied, then I wouldn't look at those troops deaths as something that was in vein.

 

I don't have any other complaints really about the job he did, I mean I thought he would do well enough that I even voted for him the first time. I had no problem with the tax cuts... er that is until I found out they went to the rich. I wouldn't have had problems with that either if the rich would have kept their end of the bargain and used it to expand and create jobs.

 

At least that was the reasoning we were all fed as to why giving them the tax cuts made good sense. But they never did it, they used those cuts to make themselves richer and piss on AMERICA.

 

After all that, all we heard about were the rich needing bailed out and Bush giving them welfare checks.

 

Obama on the other-hand, has been criticized before he even got elected.

 

If you want me to complain about Obama, give me something legitimate that I would need to complain about besides his choice of Reverend or his previous job as an attorney with acorn. Why stretch it out and make it into something it's not?

 

Obama is the product of many corrupt groups from his long involvement in that church

That's kind of stretching it a bit don't ya think? That's like saying all the parishioners in a church who followed a priest convicted of fondling little boys are just as guilty.

 

That's lunacy that makes no sense.

 

Same thing with ACORN. Obama was their (jr.) lawyer at one time... whoopy, does that mean Eric Rudolph's lawyer was a terrorist too?

 

This guilt by association lunacy is quite ridiculous.

 

Since then, the www has been filled with all kinds of unsubstantiated "theorys" about everything.

 

You call THAT defending Obama? I call it not playing into the conspiracy's. Hell if I was to believe that, I might as well believe the 9/11 conspiracy and the JFK conspiracy's, and etc, etc...

 

And TJ WONDERS why I call him ALEX.

 

I say it's a damn shame the Republican party has been taken over by conspiracy theorists.

 

They brought us Reagan, and we all prospered, then after that...ugh!!

 

Ever notice the new wave Republican tries to draw on Reagan... more like envoke Reagan, but fail at accomplishing anything remotely close to his policys.

 

I say it's because they are too occupied with the conspiracy's and complaint's to even try making a difference.

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[eddo]

 

That's kind of stretching it a bit don't ya think? That's like saying all the parishioners in a church who followed a priest convicted of fondling little boys are just as guilty.

 

 

If the parishioners knew the priest was fondling the boys then yes, they are just as guilty.

 

Obama knew, and stuck around, Rev Wrights views. Supposedly he knew about ACORN and their shady practices (he should have, if he was their attorney) and he stuck around them.

 

That's the difference.