phreakwars Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 How many defense attorneys know their client is guilty but still defend them? I'm gonna go with 100% . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 How many defense attorneys know their client is guilty but still defend them? I'm gonna go with 100% . . Yea but I bet they don't hang out with their clients. Obama knows of the shady practices of ACORN and SEIU and has had them in the White House helping to make policy decisions. Obama knew of Van Jones' radical past, he knew of Rev. Wrights radical black liberation theology of his church, which is about black socialist revolution. Quote
phreakwars Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Hey now, Reagan had them in the White House helping too. Like I said before. It's so easy to slam Obama for it, but even easier to forget others who were involved with them. And I also don't recall hearing anything about Obama hanging out with his reverened. Yet another guilt by association. I have friends that smoke pot and sell drugs, I know all about it, does that make me guilty even though I am not around when they are doing it? In my eyes, ain't my damn business what their doing with their business. That's not why they are my friends. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Barack Obama has attended Wright's sermons for over twenty years. By his own admission, Obama consults with Wright before making any "bold political decisions." Obama calls Wright his "spiritual advisor." He calls Wright one of his prime mentors. Obama got the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope," from a Wright sermon of the same name. He says that Wright was extremely important in shaping his life and his views. Obama and his wife were married by Rev. Wright. Reverend Wright baptized Obama's daughters. Barack Obama donated over $20,000 to Wright's church in 2006. Before being thrown under the bus when it was politically expedient, Rev. Wright was on his campaign religious advisory board. The church website said it was based on black liberation theology. Obama isn't an idiot. He knew what that meant and what the church and Rev. Wright were all about. Quote
timesjoke Posted September 15, 2009 Author Posted September 15, 2009 I'm not disagreeing with you here, but plead your case against Bender. Make a list of a few things that Bush did during his presidency, explain why you dislike them, and their repercussions. I already gave one very big example and there are many other examples such as not doing the invasion of Iraq correctly as in shutting down the borders to prevent what happened with most of the insurgency being caused by outside help from places like Iran. As commander in chief he bears a lot of that blame. Bender, What did Bush lie about? If your talking about WMD's in Iraq how can you say he lied? He had no way of having "Independent knowledge" outside the intelligence community and even Both Clintons admitted that the information mateched information they were aware of during his presidency. There was no lie there, unless your saying everyone was in on the lie including the clintons: "The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002 Quote
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Obama.... had a reverend who said God Damn America Bush....Lied, soldiers died Obama....was a jr lawyer in a case for ACORN Bush...... Lied, soldiers died Obama..... Had tea once with Bill Ayers Bush..... Lied, soldiers died . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Obama.... had a reverend who said God Damn America Bush....Lied, soldiers died Obama....was a jr lawyer in a case for ACORN Bush...... Lied, soldiers died Obama..... Had tea once with Bill Ayers Bush..... Lied, soldiers died . . Once again, completely inaccurate. Obmama did much more than that for ACORN, did much more than have tea with Bill Ayers, and Rev. Wright did more than just say God damn America. Minimizing and ridicule. Weak. I've posted dozens of posts with explanations of my statements on each person here for over a year. Not gonna post them again. Quote
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Obama did this, Obama did that. So lets lay it on the line here.. What exactly is he guilty of? Knowing people? Ohh, major crime there. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 What was the lie Bender? Why is it you dodge every direct question asked of you while everyone else here always answers every question or request you make? As I already pointed out, it is not any "ONE" association that shows Obama for who he truly is, it is the many, many associations and comments that show this. You ever hear the old saying "birds of a feather flock together"? 'Judge me by the people who surround me' - Barack Obama His own words Bender. We look to who he has surrounded himself with his entire life and we see radical after radical who believe in everything from 9/11 being an inside job to forced abortions being reasonable. We see race pimps and anti-Government wackos. Quote
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 What's with you accusing me of dodging question? WHAT QUESTION? Edit: You mean what did Bush lie about? WMD's Sent troops to war under false pretenses. He should be sent to Hauge and executed for war crimes. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Bush was so full of it, the best strategy for Dems to win the election was to simply show this to the Republicans who were thinking of making the same mistake over again. [attach=full]2515[/attach] . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 What's with you accusing me of dodging question? WHAT QUESTION? Edit: You mean what did Bush lie about? WMD's Sent troops to war under false pretenses. He should be sent to Hauge and executed for war crimes. . . A lie means Bush knew there were no WMD's....how do you think he knew better than the intelligence agencies Bender? "The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002 Even both Clintons agreed with the data, how can you say Bush lied when even they agreed with everything Bush said? Quote
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Clinton didn't send troops in though. Bush did. Bush Lied, soldiers died. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Getting back on Topic. FAUX NEWS is too stupid to realize when someone from ACORN is fukking with them... HILARIOUS [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wVZJdBCQxY]YouTube - Caught in a Smear - Fox's Advocacy Nets Another Victim: Fox's Credibility[/ame] Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Clinton didn't send troops in though. Bush did. Bush Lied, soldiers died. . . Sending troops or not does not change the words to lie Bender. So if Bush lied, so did both Clintons and many other liberals: "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002 "The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002 "The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002 So did all these people lie too? 1 Quote
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war. Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
eddo Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war. Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible. . . Good thing Obama is gonna pull them all out immediately after he becomes president. oh wait.... 1 Quote I'm trusted by more women.
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war. Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible. . . Yes they did Bender. All of them voted on the action in support of it. Bush could not send troops into war without the Congress. But the point was your claim of a lie, I offered you liberal after liberal including Bill Clinton all supporting what Bush said, so did everyone lie or not Bender.....why do you always dodge direct questions? 1 Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Doesn't matter, none of them sent troops into a false war. Bloods on Bush's hands, doesn't matter what anybody else said, Bush is the one who is ultimately responsible. . . Really? I'm pretty sure Congress voted to allow Bush to act on Iraq and all of those people quoted, except Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy voted for it. The President couldn't have gone in without Congress' approval. 1 Quote
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Congress was LIED TO by Bush & Co.. Can't blame congress. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Congress was LIED TO by Bush & Co.. Can't blame congress. . . Again, you keep talking about a lie, what lie are you talking about Bender? Instead of the dodging how about we narrow this down to the point of what was the lie? Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton both had the same access to information that Bush had and both of them agreed with what Bush said so how can you claim Bush lied? Do you think Bush was smarter than everyone else and was capable of reaching a different conclusion than they did when shown the same information? Quote
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 "As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998 "Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration?s policy towards Iraq, I don?t think there can be any question about Saddam?s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002 Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64]YouTube - Gore criticizes Bush for ignoring Iraq's ties to terrorism[/ame] Quote
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