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Posted

you. are. dense.

 

Well your entitled to your opinion but it seems to me that your only making excuses for your own horrible and nasty behavior eddo, so I don't believe anything you say now can be truly objective.

 

 

Who's complaining that you get involved in the attacks? Many, many of us are guilty of it- INCLUDING YOU. Part of the issue here is that you attack, and then pretend that you don't attack.

 

I actually don't ever attack (the way you do) but you always lie and say I do so I was trying to offer a new direction for the discussion to get away from your broken record by asking why you complain about one from me when you toss hundreds at me first?

 

 

What I mean by "the way you do" is you post something with the intent to cause harm first, and the topic is just the tool to cause harm. I take the topic at hand first and I may say something that could be seen as negative to someone but that was not my intent. To offer an example let's look at Ali's weight problems. When she made the thread talking about her getting the belt to help her lose weight, I mentioned that the belt only forces her to eat less, a thing she could do herself without the belt. You called that a viscious flame, Ali lost her mind, but what I said was the truth and I did not say it for the purpose to hurt her but to instead offer a factual point.

 

You, too, are a master of the flame. So quit acting like you're not.

 

lol, that is truly funny eddo.

 

I always avoided the flame sections eddo, I still remember how Ali challenged me to meet her in the flame war section at the jungle over and over again and I asked her and the rest of you to avoid such childish behaviors but you all insisted.

 

In fact I remember all of you cheering Ali on, you sang her praises and told of her epic battles with other people she had ripped apart before me and you all dared me to face her.

 

There was this awe you all showed her because you all feared her flame skills.

 

And I agree, Ali knows no limits, everything is fair game with her, family, friends, nothing is off limits when Ali is angry. So that raw hostility was seen as insurmountable by any challenger who were to face Ali. The reason so many before me were destroyed by Ali is they tried to match her ferocious style, and in that area, Ali has no match.

 

I do okay against Ali because I don't try to play her game. I don't try to rip her apart, I instead concentrate on her bahaviors that are the result of her anger, and just like you there is nothing you guys can say to get around that fact.

 

 

Your trying to harm, I'm just standing my ground, and in that there is a world of difference.

 

 

 

You are also a master of the chicken-sh!t excuses:

"I'm not gonna post a pic, cause you will be mean."

"I've got lots of friends that pm me in secret, but I won't tell you who they are and they won't get involved in any way publicly."

"I have my own board that I want to give you the members to, but not if you aren't gonna do things my way."

"My friends, who aren't members here and won't come here to verify anything I say, say you need professional help."

 

Believe what you want, I had similar replies to Ali's fake issue with "motorboating". Most people do not believe Ali believes a motorboat is opressive to all women everywhere in the world or out of line, it is just a form of sexual play and if people both like their play, who is Ali to flame them? Ali only took that possition to attack me on a personal level.....period.

 

 

As far as sharing my personal information......well sharing just a little has ended up with thousands of distortions and personal attacks based on twisting what I say into things I never said so where is my positive reinforcement to share more eddo?

 

Start being friendly to me and maybe I will open up more to you, but all you have ever shoed me is your intent to lie about me and what I say so I really see no positive for me in giving you more to distort.

 

 

 

again:

 

you. are. dense.

 

 

own your sh!t man. own it. You just about had it there, claiming that you attacked, but then you pussed out and backpedaled faster than Joe Wilson. own it. admit you do it too.

 

Then maybe we can get that support group going. :)

 

eddo, the difference is intent.

 

You, Ali, and Chi "WANT" to harm, I don't.

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Don't you have some churches to build?

 

 

Or perhaps there's some children somewhere that need saving.. or beating..

 

 

Maybe some water balloons to suck on or sumpin'? At 5 grand a pop you should be rooting on em all the fukkin' time.. Doesn't that sound much better than trying to convince a handful of people online that you're not insane?

 

 

Don't want her gettin' bored and go off and find another man to suck on your wallet like your other wife.. .. do ya?

 

 

excuse me.. ex wife .. ;) lol.. :) .. lol..

 

 

 

Just judging you by your standards.. right killer ;)

 

 

 

have a great night

 

:)

 

 

ps.. shut the f ck up before I get real ugly..

Posted

eddo, the difference is intent.

You, Ali, and Chi "WANT" to harm, I don't.

 

Not sure why you are draggin' Chi into this now, but again, I refer you to this:

 

please refer to this.

 

This time read it and try to understand it, ok?

 

In your mind- you know our intent every time. Now, I cannot speak for Ali, or Chi, but I do not attack you all the time. I even showed you where I was one of the first to welcome you back when you first showed back up here. In your mind- you are always right about us, so there is no way I could every be nice to you. Sure, there are times I slam you- but I do it to everyone. But you can't take a joke. You refuse to take the effort to learn us.

 

 

 

and for the record- I could care less whether or not we ever become friendly, or if you ever share proof with us of who you really are. I only ever point it out to show you that you aren't as high and mighty as you think you are. Co-habitation is doable, but it'd be a whole lot easier if we didn't all think you were just here to be a jackass.

 

Ya know, if you tool half the energy that you spend looking down your nose at us and apply it to trying to actually get to know and understand us (this includes understanding our humor- which you are very bad at)- and things would all smooth out on their own.

 

Your choice.

 

Whatever.

I'm trusted by more women.
Posted

Not sure why you are draggin' Chi into this now, but again, I refer you to this:

 

She follows the attack line you and Ali have set up pretty well, especially when you two are already in the motion. She also has been one of the few who say I am telling lies about every aspect of my life as you do.

 

 

In your mind- you know our intent every time. Now, I cannot speak for Ali, or Chi, but I do not attack you all the time. I even showed you where I was one of the first to welcome you back when you first showed back up here. In your mind- you are always right about us, so there is no way I could every be nice to you. Sure, there are times I slam you- but I do it to everyone. But you can't take a joke. You refuse to take the effort to learn us.

 

So you do as I asked Ali to do and look at all your posts, just go back 50 posts and tell me how many of those have been nice eddo.

 

 

Maybe one, if that so how do you expect me to respond? The last time this subject came up you offered a positive reputation entry as your only example of being nice to me eddo. Nothing has changed sense then.

 

 

You even went on a tirade against my spelling eddo......until you messed up yourself (such as your use of "every" instead of "ever" I marked above. You mess up spelling too but only "I" get flammed for it. Why would you flame me for spelling? Why go out of your way to try and call me obese and such? Because all you want to do is attack, sometimes it is for the same reasons Ali does, to defend her friends, other times there seems to be no reason at all for it, you just seem to get off on it.

 

 

and for the record- I could care less whether or not we ever become friendly, or if you ever share proof with us of who you really are. I only ever point it out to show you that you aren't as high and mighty as you think you are. Co-habitation is doable, but it'd be a whole lot easier if we didn't all think you were just here to be a jackass.

 

Well I don't believe you eddo, and you have not offered me one reason to believe you would handle new information about me any better than what you already have. I am slammed almost every day by you and Ali when you twist what you do know into lies to flame me with. If you were not doing that I would gladly share more of myself with you guys but at this point, where is the positive for me?

 

 

If "all" of you thought I was a jackass I might believe I had part of the problem with this situation but I get a lot of feedback from people from things like Ali's fake indignation about the "motorboating" from people to prove to me I am not the one pushing this mess but it is instead you two who are pushing it.

 

 

I know, I know your usual line that I am a complete liar.....you know that adds to it, if your going to claim everything I say is a lie...why should I ever try to share with you eddo? There is no way I can ever prove anything to you to get you to stop your attacks because you like to do them too much.

 

 

That was one of the reasons I offered Ali my riverhouse, I don't mind helping good people I know would not mess the place up but more than that I saw a chance to finally shut you up with all your claims that I lie about everything. You have been a broken record calling me a liar for over two years as well........so again, where do I see anything positive from you? Do you think calling me a liar all the time will make me want to warm up to you?

 

 

Ya know, if you tool half the energy that you spend looking down your nose at us and apply it to trying to actually get to know and understand us (this includes understanding our humor- which you are very bad at)- and things would all smooth out on their own.

 

Your choice.

 

Whatever.

 

Oh don't play that understand your humor crap eddo, I have seen several times where all of you seem to have your moments of not understand each other's humor so you can just forget that crap.

 

I have asked you many times why I would ever expect humor from you in my direction and you do not answer......because you know you have never given me any reason to believe you would ever be friendly with me eddo.....never.

 

 

You mistake my humor as well eddo. I guess you have never taken the time to get to know me either right?

 

We are humans, we will miss things sometimes but if I miss something you and Ali will try to grind my bones into flour as punnishment when you misunderstand something I have said.

 

 

respond to all of this if nothing else eddo

 

You think me stating facts is looking down my nose. Such as your being angry about me sticking up for MrsK where all this really started. You both said I was talking down to you because I did not understand the "history" with MrsK.

 

I didn't even know Ali and at that time I was at the Jungle because you invited me so I had a somewhat friendly relationship with you at that point.

 

I certainly did not know MrsK either so when you and Ali were ripping her apart, I had no dog in that fight eddo. There was no history of agression as we have now to motivate me to speak out against you so why do you think I defended MrsK?

 

 

Do you think I was trying to "start" a history of us being at each other's throats eddo? I saw how tenacious you were to flaming Wez and I was seeing how vicious Ali could be with what I saw her posting against MrsK so do you really believe I was motivated to get you mad at me eddo?

 

 

I really do not know what you think on this but all I do know is I saw two people (Ali and yourself) ripping apart another person and in my mind, no amount of history justified that leval of hatred and nasty actions so I spoke out against that kind of behavior........behaviors you and Ali have been subjecting me to ever sense. This "war" was started because I dared to question what you two were doing, you have been hostile to me in every way ever sense.

 

 

 

I know you two feel justified in what you do, otherwise you would not do it eddo, but I find it interesting you always fall back on excuses for your bad behaviors, you claim "history" justifies. Well I am sorry but I do not see it that way. Today you guys get along with MrsK, so I guess now she is a good person when before she was "bad" and deserved to be ripped apart? How do you make such swings in behaviors eddo? How can people be both completely bad and deserving of the worse treatment you can imagine and then transform into someone who is your friend? Was there a magic wand involved?

 

Did she "earn" to be considered a human being from you two in some way? What was it she did to change your opinion of her from evil beast that needed to be E-killed to a nice person who should be your friend?

 

 

Did she have to perform for you as your trying to make me perform for you eddo? Did she have to fulfill certain tasks and behave as you wanted her to behave to "purchase" decent trereatment from you two?

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Posted
So... I've been following this but who is MrsK?
Posted
So... I've been following this but who is MrsK?

 

A person on another forum this has all boiled over from. I was invited from here to go there by eddo and the first thing I was involved in was watching Ali and eddo rip into MrsK over her choice of husband who was in prison. I agree with both Ali and eddo that I at that time had no idea what was in their past in dealing with MrsK but that past was irrelivant to me because my point was based on their behaviors, not hers.

 

I felt there was no justification to ever treat another human being that way but for some reason Ali and eddo felt their past dealings with MrsK justified their actions.

 

When I asked them to enlighten me about their past dealings with MrsK they spoke of her being ugly to them in other discussions and how she treated them poorly...........

 

So that is when I made an observation that seems to be true about them both with me from that day to today......they were not attacking MrsK because of that topic but instead saw a chance to take some "revenge" against MrsK for what they saw as past misdeeds against them in other discussions.

 

That is why they kept talking about the "history" they had with MrsK, that "history" justified their desire for REVENGE just like that is their driving force to go after me now, it is all about them feeding their revenge monster.

Posted
Don't you have some churches to build?

 

 

Or perhaps there's some children somewhere that need saving.. or beating..

 

 

Maybe some water balloons to suck on or sumpin'? At 5 grand a pop you should be rooting on em all the fukkin' time.. Doesn't that sound much better than trying to convince a handful of people online that you're not insane?

 

 

Don't want her gettin' bored and go off and find another man to suck on your wallet like your other wife.. .. do ya?

 

 

excuse me.. ex wife .. ;) lol.. :) .. lol..

 

 

 

Just judging you by your standards.. right killer ;)

 

 

 

have a great night

 

:)

 

 

ps.. shut the f ck up before I get real ugly..

 

God Bless America

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Posted

I guess I don't really know enough about the situation to really respond... I just don't see why you are wasting your time with these people. You are obviously an intelligent man with a good head on your shoulders.

 

This "MrsK" seems very lucky to have you as a friend. I'm sure she thanks her lucky starts you are defending her honor.

Posted
I guess I don't really know enough about the situation to really respond... I just don't see why you are wasting your time with these people. You are obviously an intelligent man with a good head on your shoulders.

 

This "MrsK" seems very lucky to have you as a friend. I'm sure she thanks her lucky starts you are defending her honor.

 

Thinking two can play at the "sign in as a guest" game there TJ?

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Guest I <3 fake titties
Posted
I guess I don't really know enough about the situation to really respond... I just don't see why you are wasting your time with these people. You are obviously an intelligent man with a good head on your shoulders.

 

This "MrsK" seems very lucky to have you as a friend. I'm sure she thanks her lucky starts you are defending her honor.

 

 

Yeah.. real lucky.. too bad within' days of "defending her honor".. she couldn't stand him..

 

 

Kinda hard to call the 1st 8 innings when it's in the bottom of the ninth...

 

 

Why not come out and befriend TJ for us.. please..

 

 

That.. or shut the hell up...

Posted
Thinking two can play at the "sign in as a guest" game there TJ?

 

 

lol, it is not me, ask IWS or Bender to check the ip from the post.

 

 

I was actually not a good friend for MrsK either, that was my point, I had no dog in that fight and was posting my opinion based purely on how I saw it as unfair and unreasonable to rip MrsK apart just because Ali and eddo were looking for revenge.

 

Actually if you think about it, eddo was the only guy I really knew there so if anything I would be more prone to lean to supporting eddo in that situation but their behavior was so over the top I really had no choice but to tell it for what it was.

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This site is so full of histility and anger... Please don't mistake Timesjoke for me. Not that I dislike him, I don't really know him. It's so unfair to watch all of these terrible attacks against him though. And that MrsK. person sounds like a wretched ingrate!

 

If she didn't thank heavens for a friend like you then she didn't deserve you!

Posted
And that MrsK. person sounds like a wretched ingrate!

 

 

Yeah, she can be a real bitch.

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Posted

So this whole thing started because this MrsK person is a bitch! And everyone is taking out on this poor guy TimesJoke?

 

Why? Please Explain!

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Posted
So this whole thing started because this MrsK person is a bitch! And everyone is taking out on this poor guy TimesJoke?

 

Why? Please Explain!

 

No.. you're confused. Ali's a bitch. Eddo's an asshole. MrsK is their victim and TJ's a hero.

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Posted
Well I am befuddled now. Why were "Ali" and "Eddo" attacking that woman? She is obviously a problem if she is incessantly under attack! "TimesJoke" was only trying to help and then she turned on him too. I bet if "Ali", "Eddo" and "TimesJoke" all got together and thought about it, they would realize this "MrsK" is a force of freakish nature. She sounds like a hag!
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No.. you're confused. Ali's a bitch. Eddo's an asshole. MrsK is their victim and TJ's a hero.

 

In fact, I think he was just nominated for a Congressional Medal of Honor.

Guest Secret admirer..
Posted
So this whole thing started because this MrsK person is a bitch! And everyone is taking out on this poor guy TimesJoke?

 

Why? Please Explain!

 

Well.. ya see.. everyone here has an internal failing that compels them to want to hurt people.. except TJ of course.. he's the only that cares about this site.. the last hope at salvation..

 

sigh.. he's so dreamy..

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Well.. ya see.. everyone here has an internal failing that compels them to want to hurt people.. except TJ of course.. he's the only that cares about this site.. the last hope at salvation..

 

sigh.. he's so dreamy..

 

I bet he's nominated for People's Sexiest list this year, too. I'll cry if he doesn't take the top spot.

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Posted

I just don't understand all of this hostility and hatred. Why torture "TimesJoke" this way? He seems all right. More attacks and more rudeness! I don't think I can stand by and allow you people to attack him this way. After watching this post I think it is deplorable the way you all mistreat one another.

 

TimesJoke: I wish you all the luck in the world. But this is just to painful to observe any longer.

Posted
No.. you're confused. Ali's a bitch.

 

Truest statement I've read all day. :)

 

 

 

And I would like to make a public apology to hugo. I thought people who put others on "ignore" were kind of cowardly to do so...

 

...I was WRONG!

 

I can see how the ignore feature could be a useful tool and will most likely be utilizing it myself in the very near future.

 

I concede to your wisdom in this matter, hugo. Are we still friends? Am I still your favorite fatso? ;)

Guest Don't make me hurt you
Posted
I bet he's nominated for People's Sexiest list this year, too. I'll cry if he doesn't take the top spot.

 

Stay away from TJ, bitch!!!!! He's mine!

Guest hurt me please
Posted

 

What you don't know, is that if you hurt me, it'll just make me hotter for him.

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