Liberal Race Baiters Reving Engines

[ImWithStupid]

Get used to it. We're going to have at least three more years of false racism claims.

 

FOX News: Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst last week drew new recriminations from his colleagues Tuesday, with a member of the Congressional Black Caucus suggesting that a failure to rebuke the South Carolina Republican would be tantamount to supporting the most blatant form of organized racism in American history.

 

In an obvious reference to the Ku Klux Klan, Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said Tuesday that people will be putting on "white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside" if emerging racist attitudes, which he says were subtly supported by Wilson, are not rebuked. He said Wilson must be disciplined as an example.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Congressman: People Will Wear "White Hoods" If Wilson Not Rebuked

[RoyalOrleans]

Yeah...

 

I saw that bullsh!t on the local news tonight. I hate Hank Johnson, have always hated Hank Johnson, and I hate his predecessor even worse (Cynthia McKinney).

 

One hell of a thing for a Buddhist to say... yes he is a Buddhist.

[timesjoke]

ATLANTA - Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act "based on racism" and rooted in fears of a black president.

 

"I think it's based on racism," Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. "There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

 

 

"Those kind of things are not just casual outcomes of a sincere debate on whether we should have a national program on health care," he said. "It's deeper than that."

[RoyalOrleans]

And just who didn't see all of this coming? Come on, folks! Having you been paying attention for the past 30 years? In virtually every state and community in this nation liberals have been blaming racism for any failure, miscalculation, controversy or outright act of corruption by black elected officials. There has been a standard operating methodology:

 

1. Black citizen elected to office.

 

2. Black official runs into opposition to policy objectives or has a problem with corruption.

 

3. Black supporters and Democrats blame the problems on race.

 

One-two-three. This scenario has been played out so many times in modern American history it would have been impossible to keep count. Now a black man has become president. Some fools thought that this would help our country move beyond racial division. Well --- perhaps it would have, if only evil white people had been smart enough not to object to anything this man might propose.

 

It didn't work out that way, so now the left and the media are finding racists under every bed, behind every utility pole and on every street in America. Newsweek Magazine even ran a totally absurd story about racism in babies ... putting a picture of a white infant on the cover with the title "Is your baby racist?" Read that story and you'll find that the authors think that it would be horrifying if a white child were to ever express pride in being white.

 

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Last year, before the election, some of us predicted that if (or when) Barack Obama became president that this would happen. We said that every time his policies met with opposition the left would start screaming racism. So what happened when we said that this would happen? Well ... you guessed it. We were called racists. You just can't imagine how surprised and shocked we were.

 

So .. here is what Jimmy Carter, Bill Moyers, Hank Johnson, much of the Washington and New York press corps, Newsweek Magazine and the brilliant thinkers on the American left would have you believe of Americans right now:

 

1. We would be more than willing to welcome cap-and-trade with open arms, even if we paid a thousand dollars or more extra every year for our energy use, if Barack Obama were only white.

 

2. We would be dancing in the streets celebrating the dawning of government control of our health care if only Barack Obama were white.

 

3. It would be just dandy if government bureaucrats rationed health care for our parents, as long as the president is white.

 

4. We would jump at the chance of the government owning ALL of the auto manufacturing companies .. not just General Motors ... if the president just didn't have dark skin.

 

5. We would applaud those ACORN workers giving tax avoidance advice to a pimp and his prostitute if the workers hadn't been black.

 

6. Most Americans - even ones that don't pay income taxes now - would be more than willing to give 70% of everything they earn to the federal government when asked ... so long as they are asked by a white president.

 

7. We would have been thrilled, I tell you ... THRILLED to have all of those Islamic goons being held at Guantanamo be not only released, but sent to be school resource officers at our local government schools, if only a white president put that plan in motion.

 

8. It would be OK if a white president stood back and allowed Iran to build its coveted nukes ... we're only unhappy about that because a black president is doing it.

 

9. Deficits? We don't care about deficits! Make our children and grand children and great grand children pay through the nose for our president's spending habits ... just so long as the president isn't black.

 

10. Government pork? Like we actually care? Look ... you folks in Washington can spend all the money you want - how about more studies of the mating habits of Polish Zlotnika pigs? - just make sure it's not a black president who signs the spending bill into law.

 

11. We wouldn't care if all illegal aliens were counted twice in the next Census ... just so long as the president isn't black.

 

12. Those Black Panther thugs who threatened voters in Philly? The ONLY reason we're upset that they were given a pass is because Barack Obama is black.

 

13. Every single member of the president's cabinet could be a tax cheat as far as we're concerned ... just so long as the president is white.

 

14. Forced unionization? Bring it on! We love card check! We love the idea of union goons threatening and intimidating workers to sign a card saying they want to belong to a union! What we don't like is that a black president is pushing this idea.

 

15. Single-party talks with that Gargoyle that runs North Korea? It's about time we legitimized that little pipsqueak. We're only mildly upset here because the person who is doing that happens to be black.

 

16. More regulation of the finance sector? We could care less! For all we care you can nationalize the banks and decree that only the government can make home loans .. .and you can even apportion those home loans on the basis of race if you want to ... just so long as the president is white!

 

17. Minimum wage? Like we care about that? Raise it to $15 an hour if you want! Just give us our white president back.

 

Talk of the "lunatic fringe". Jesus Christ! They have us all pegged perfect.

 

DISCLAIMER: Please note the sarcasm. That is all.

[timesjoke]

17 great examples, but completely worthless to the excuse machines because they already know that none of it has to do with his color. They just can't offer reasonable debate to your 17 points, so off to discussion ending tactics they go.

 

 

You, IWS, and myself have made these points and others and up to right now, Bender even refuses to let himself see these points so he does not have to respond to them. It is just easier to claim none of these concerns even exist and block discussion with racist claims than to defend what they know cannot be defended.

[Ahhlee]

Excellent post, RO. Insightful and very true!!!!

 

You get an A++ today!

[RoyalOrleans]

What if Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, or Herman Cain elected president on 11/4/08?

 

Where would we be then?

 

Would either of these black men play the race card?

 

What if Condi Rice were elected president?

 

I would not doubt that the moonbats at the NAACP and their ilk, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et.al. would call them "Uncle Tom" or, in Condi's case "Mammy".

 

The opposition would not use race, they would be demonized for being capitalists, for being wealthy, for either running on the GOP or Libertarian ticket, and quite possibly for being Christian.

[phreakwars]

Carter, just like Van Jones, just telling it like it is.

 

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[timesjoke]

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The liberals had their share of nutjobs as well, Obama and his fellow radical liberals like you Bender are just using this as a way to dodge taking responsibility for their actions and beliefs.

 

 

 

Why don't you instead try to answer to RO's 17 points? If your as superior as you keep pretending to be you should be able to offer an explanation to all of them in just a few seconds.............unless you have no defense for them, and that would be my guess.

[phreakwars]

Answer them? OK fine. If Obama was white, you'd still see the Lunatic fringe try and blame him for some crime or other, just like the alleged Clinton cocaine ring, or Clinton murdering such and such. Hell then you have other Democrats as well. Every time a Democrat is in office, the lunatics come out bitching, and the domestic terrorists start their crap. Even more so with a black man in office.

 

I still wanna know where the outrage and protests were when The Patriot act was enacted, where was the outrage for the warrantless wire taps, where was the outrage when Habeus Corpus was tossed out?

 

I see protester signs talking about wanting freedom back. I say talk to the man who took em away, not the guy whos in office now.

 

How bout those taxes? Obama is taxing us to death? Wow, I had no idea there were so many chain smokers. He has not raised taxes, he even gave us all tax cuts.

 

1. We would be more than willing to welcome cap-and-trade with open arms, even if we paid a thousand dollars or more extra every year for our energy use, if Barack Obama were only white.

Probably more willing if you actually read the proposal instead of made up lies.

 

2. We would be dancing in the streets celebrating the dawning of government control of our health care if only Barack Obama were white.

What government control? Another lie and misconception

 

3. It would be just dandy if government bureaucrats rationed health care for our parents, as long as the president is white.

What rationed health care?

 

4. We would jump at the chance of the government owning ALL of the auto manufacturing companies .. not just General Motors ... if the president just didn't have dark skin.

99.98% of all companies are NOT governement owned, where the socialism here?

 

5. We would applaud those ACORN workers giving tax avoidance advice to a pimp and his prostitute if the workers hadn't been black.

Ah the ACORN conspiracy, carry on, that's quite boring

 

6. Most Americans - even ones that don't pay income taxes now - would be more than willing to give 70% of everything they earn to the federal government when asked ... so long as they are asked by a white president.

Yeah that 6% your paying now is killing you, not to mention the 1.45% for medicare, and 4.5% for social security. 70% my ass. MORE lies and distortion

 

7. We would have been thrilled, I tell you ... THRILLED to have all of those Islamic goons being held at Guantanamo be not only released, but sent to be school resource officers at our local government schools, if only a white president put that plan in motion.

MORE LIES

 

8. It would be OK if a white president stood back and allowed Iran to build its coveted nukes ... we're only unhappy about that because a black president is doing it.

More lies

 

9. Deficits? We don't care about deficits! Make our children and grand children and great grand children pay through the nose for our president's spending habits ... just so long as the president isn't black.

You should have said that 8 years ago when we had a surplus

 

10. Government pork? Like we actually care? Look ... you folks in Washington can spend all the money you want - how about more studies of the mating habits of Polish Zlotnika pigs? - just make sure it's not a black president who signs the spending bill into law.

More lies, and you forget the Repblicans are also big time porkers as well. Porky Conservative agenda projects contributed to the deficit as well

 

11. We wouldn't care if all illegal aliens were counted twice in the next Census ... just so long as the president isn't black.

Again more lies, does it ever end?

 

12. Those Black Panther thugs who threatened voters in Philly? The ONLY reason we're upset that they were given a pass is because Barack Obama is black.

Yep, Obama's fault

 

13. Every single member of the president's cabinet could be a tax cheat as far as we're concerned ... just so long as the president is white.

Nope, none on the Republican side is there, nope, none sitting in prison at this moment for it, is there?

 

14. Forced unionization? Bring it on! We love card check! We love the idea of union goons threatening and intimidating workers to sign a card saying they want to belong to a union! What we don't like is that a black president is pushing this idea.

MORE LIES

 

15. Single-party talks with that Gargoyle that runs North Korea? It's about time we legitimized that little pipsqueak. We're only mildly upset here because the person who is doing that happens to be black.

 

16. More regulation of the finance sector? We could care less! For all we care you can nationalize the banks and decree that only the government can make home loans .. .and you can even apportion those home loans on the basis of race if you want to ... just so long as the president is white!

Ah, you LIKE getting it in the ass from the financial sector, I see.

 

17. Minimum wage? Like we care about that? Raise it to $15 an hour if you want! Just give us our white president back.

Raised under Bush 2x, raised under Obama because it carried over from Bush.

 

Try something that isn't a lie, distortion, half truth, paranoia, fear mongering, or outright stupidity and then we'll talk.

 

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[phreakwars]

At least the teabaggers are starting to be a bit more honest.

 

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[RoyalOrleans]

Answer them? OK fine. If Obama was white, you'd still see the Lunatic fringe try and blame him for some crime or other, just like the alleged Clinton cocaine ring, or Clinton murdering such and such. Hell then you have other Democrats as well. Every time a Democrat is in office, the lunatics come out bitching, and the domestic terrorists start their crap. Even more so with a black man in office.

 

Blah blah blah boring as the Acorn crap.

 

I still wanna know where the outrage and protests were when The Patriot act was enacted, where was the outrage for the warrantless wire taps, where was the outrage when Habeus Corpus was tossed out?

 

They fell on deaf ears.

 

I hate the Patriot Act. Loathe it. Of all Bush's fukk-ups, this is the grandmother of them all.

 

Still, I can't put blame squarely on Bush. We've been on a steady infringement of our basic rights since FDR.

 

I see protester signs talking about wanting freedom back. I say talk to the man who took em away, not the guy whos in office now.

 

Again, we can look back to FDR's New Deal and the sludge-filled downward spiral to our current President''s New Deal.

 

How bout those taxes? Obama is taxing us to death? Wow, I had no idea there were so many chain smokers. He has not raised taxes, he even gave us all tax cuts.

 

Who got the tax cuts?

 

Probably more willing if you actually read the proposal instead of made up lies.

 

I've read it and can't find a damn bit of good for the future of our economy in the proposal.

 

I can opine all day long about it, but you can interpret them as lies. Believe what you want, Bender, but get ready for a big fat "I told you so.".

 

I love gloating.

 

 

What government control? Another lie and misconception

 

Typical response.

 

Have you not read the bill yet?

 

What rationed health care?

 

Proponents of socialist healthcare here in the US virtually never cite any of the realities of any of the existing "socialist" systems, be it one in Canada, Sweden, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, etc. Their system is always based on some non-existent, utopian system where all the treatments and outcomes will of course be "fair and equal".

 

How can that possibly happen when by its very nature all services under such a system will have to be rationed? Its just common sense that any service, if its perceived to be free, is going to be exploited.

 

 

99.98% of all companies are NOT governement owned, where the socialism here?

 

Where did you get that statistic?

 

Yet we have government hacks who probably would have a tough time making it in the private sector are going to be telling business owners and managers what they can and what they cannot do in the operations of their businesses.

 

The definition of Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, SEVERE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REGIMENTATION, and forcible suppression of the opposition.

 

Ah the ACORN conspiracy, carry on, that's quite boring

 

Typical Bender. Would rather shrug it off than face the music.

 

Yeah that 6% your paying now is killing you, not to mention the 1.45% for medicare, and 4.5% for social security. 70% my ass. MORE lies and distortion

 

It is all killing me, because it is my money. Fukk Medicare and fukk Social Security... which are perfect examples of how the government takes a terrible idea and perverts it, bankrupts it, and then blames the other guy.

 

MORE LIES

 

More lies

 

Never mind the fact that I can come off as boorish and evasive, but I can't get around the fact that "more lies" constitutes debate.

 

You should have said that 8 years ago when we had a surplus

 

Yeah... that would've left them quivering in the wake. (rollseyes)

 

In spite of Clinton's "budget surplus", which refers to one column on the spreadsheet, the national debt grew under Clinton to nearly $6 trillion. You can look it up on the US Treasury website. Most people don't know what is referred to when politicians talk about the "budget surplus."

 

 

More lies, and you forget the Repblicans are also big time porkers as well. Porky Conservative agenda projects contributed to the deficit as well

 

Ohhh.... no! I have not forgotten the pork from the Republicans side of the aisle, either. And don't think for a second that I vote party lines just because I don't agree with you on every matter.

 

Again more lies, does it ever end?

 

If my statements scare you, perhaps you shouldn't answer them? TJ called you out on this list of mine, but I wasn't expecting a warm welcome.

 

Yep, Obama's fault

 

BAM! Yep... you told me.

 

Nope, none on the Republican side is there, nope, none sitting in prison at this moment for it, is there?

 

Ohh... it's the old "I know you are but what am I" axiom, is it?

 

Can you name any Republican in that last thirty years that wasn't a crook in some form or another?

 

I can't either.

 

Thus, I am just as happy to point out the rogue's gallery of appointees made by Obama as I am any other president.

 

Name a President and I'm sure you can dig up some dirt on each one of their appointments.

 

MORE LIES

 

It would matter if you'd pay attention.

 

Ah, you LIKE getting it in the ass from the financial sector, I see.

 

Better to be ass-reamed by an investment that I made, despite advice not to proceed with said investment, than by the almighty Federal government who can do it with force. Gusto!

 

By the way.... ee no longer have a "Federal" government. We have a CENTRAL government, a tyrannical government, a FACIST government, call it what you like, but it is no longer in any way federal.

 

Raised under Bush 2x, raised under Obama because it carried over from Bush.

 

Again, preaching to the choir.

 

Advocates for the minimum wage increases love to use this phrase "the working poor." I'm sorry, folks but nobody in their right mind should expect for you to raise a family earning minimum wage. If you do, you are a low-life. You are a failure. "The working poor" is just a fancy way of masking that reality.

 

Try something that isn't a lie, distortion, half truth, paranoia, fear mongering, or outright stupidity and then we'll talk.

 

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Would you please elaborate, and to ad nauseum because I truly want to know, what it is I lied about. What it is I distorted? What it is I am fearmongering?

[timesjoke]

 

 

Typical Bender. Would rather shrug it off than face the music.

 

 

Would you please elaborate, and to ad nauseum because I truly want to know, what it is I lied about. What it is I distorted? What it is I am fearmongering?

 

I had to giggle at Bender's reply, instead of dodging every point one way, he did it many ways and never actually answered a single point in an honest way.

 

 

You told the truth, and they just can't face the truth.

[phreakwars]

Blah blah blah boring as the Acorn crap.

 

 

 

They fell on deaf ears.

 

I hate the Patriot Act. Loathe it. Of all Bush's fukk-ups, this is the grandmother of them all.

 

Still, I can't put blame squarely on Bush. We've been on a steady infringement of our basic rights since FDR.

So then where are these rights the black man took away that everyone is screaming about?

 

 

Who got the tax cuts?

YOU did. On April 1st. Easy to forget isn't it?

I've read it and can't find a damn bit of good for the future of our economy in the proposal.

 

I can opine all day long about it, but you can interpret them as lies. Believe what you want, Bender, but get ready for a big fat "I told you so.".

 

I love gloating.

Until it is so, it is fear mongering... fear of the black man

 

 

Typical response.

Have you not read the bill yet?

Yes I have, point out the governemnt control, what page, what section? I must have missed that somewhere after "IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE, KEEP IT."

 

 

Proponents of socialist healthcare here in the US virtually never cite any of the realities of any of the existing "socialist" systems, be it one in Canada, Sweden, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, etc. Their system is always based on some non-existent, utopian system where all the treatments and outcomes will of course be "fair and equal".

 

How can that possibly happen when by its very nature all services under such a system will have to be rationed? Its just common sense that any service, if its perceived to be free, is going to be exploited.

In other words, more fear mongering for something that doesn't exist. If I wanted rationing I merely need to turn to insurance companies. Show of hands of the number of people who have health care that only allows them to go to certain Dr's.

 

My uncle, who drives semi, gets his insurance from his employer. His wife recently needed some stones removed. He had to go to the next town over to have it done. If that ain't rationing, I don't know what is.

 

 

Where did you get that statistic?

Yet we have government hacks who probably would have a tough time making it in the private sector are going to be telling business owners and managers what they can and what they cannot do in the operations of their businesses.

 

The definition of Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, SEVERE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REGIMENTATION, and forcible suppression of the opposition.

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Typical Bender. Would rather shrug it off than face the music.

Nothing to face, but I'm glad the ACORN conspiracy keeps you ammused and gives you something to talk about.

 

 

 

It is all killing me, because it is my money. Fukk Medicare and fukk Social Security... which are perfect examples of how the government takes a terrible idea and perverts it, bankrupts it, and then blames the other guy.

So where did you come up with the 70% number? Hell, you could go half that, and it's still inaccurate.

 

 

Ahh hell with the rest of this. It's all frikken lies, and distortions, nothing to substantiate anything but fear mongering.

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[RoyalOrleans]

Geezzz...

 

I know I am in great company when I am accused of fear-mongering because my opinion differs from theirs.

[phreakwars]

Not fear mongering? 70% taxes, rationing, government takeover?

 

Get real man.

 

I thought we were supposed to have that rationing and government takeover and all that other shiit when Clinton was in office. What happened to it?

 

Same damn fear mongering, different President.

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[phreakwars]

Oh, and I'm still waiting for that transition into Islam like was foretold as well.

[emkay64]

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[RoyalOrleans]

Not fear mongering? 70% taxes, rationing, government takeover?

 

Get real man.

 

I thought we were supposed to have that rationing and government takeover and all that other shiit when Clinton was in office. What happened to it?

 

Same damn fear mongering, different President.

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What happened to it?

 

It was all voted down. HillaryCare?

 

Yes, I agree same damn fearmongering. Welcome back, Carter.

[RoyalOrleans]

Oh, and I'm still waiting for that transition into Islam like was foretold as well.

 

Now you're just spitting out brag and abuse without even considering the shortfalls.

 

Your average idiot may buy into that bunk, but I don't believe he was that influenced by the religion of his father. He just carries the name, that's all.

[timesjoke]

 

In other words, more fear mongering for something that doesn't exist. If I wanted rationing I merely need to turn to insurance companies. Show of hands of the number of people who have health care that only allows them to go to certain Dr's.

 

My uncle, who drives semi, gets his insurance from his employer. His wife recently needed some stones removed. He had to go to the next town over to have it done. If that ain't rationing, I don't know what is.

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I will go ahead and field this one.

 

Do all doctors accept Medicaid?

 

No.

 

So if Obamacare is passed will all doctors accept that?

 

No.

 

The few doctors who will accept it will be flooded by people suddenly ready to use their 'free' medical entitlements. That will cause more rationing than we even see currently with Medicaid.

 

 

 

The real point is that the Government has done a horrible job with every entitlement it has ever operated, what makes anyone think this would be an exception to the rule?

[phreakwars]

Then give up those Military benefits TJ, seeing how there so horrible and all.

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[timesjoke]

Then give up those Military benefits TJ, seeing how there so horrible and all.

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Your such a broken record Bender.

 

I have never gotten medical treatment at a VA hospital Bender, they are idiots and the vast majority of the doctors are not capable of working on their own, it is the only job they can get.

 

 

This is what happens when the Government runs a medical provider and what we will get if Obamacare is passed.

 

 

 

But I do see you again dodged the point that severe rationing "must" happen under Obamacare, I believe you even agreed with that one time about three weeks ago, maybe it was snaf or Hugo who said it first and then you agreed to it, just like you agreed that Obamacare would one day eliminate all private insurance companies, as Obama himself has said he wants.

[phreakwars]

You trying to tell me you don't get TRICARE?

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[timesjoke]

You trying to tell me you don't get TRICARE?

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I'm not trying to tell you anything Bender, I actually said it. From the day I was released from military service, I have never set one foot inside any government medical facility for treatment (I have visited people) or used any government supplied medical care/coverage.

 

I have used various insurance coverage from employers and on top of that I have a seperate gap coverage that covers my deductables and even gave me a profit for each of my children being born because it reimbursed me for more than my copay and deductable for the hospital and doctors on each birth.

 

 

 

I would not trust anyone I loved to care from a doctor who would work for the Government if I had any other choice.

 

Emergency and nobody else is around, sure, sometimes you do not always have an option, but given a choice, no.