Obama sing along

[ImWithStupid]

Not EVERY ACORN worker is corrupt either IWS, that is my point but you have no problem painting them all as corrupt and needing to dismantle the entire group based on the actions of less than 1% of their people.

 

If me using more facts to say all Teachers push a Liberal agenda makes me a dumbass, then your a dumbass too for doing the same thing with less facts against "ALL" ACORN people.

 

Now even you embrace the double standards, lol.

 

 

And I never said EVERY ACORN worker was corrupt, dumbass. I believe the institution is nefarious.

 

It doesn't matter how many instances of teachers and teacher's unions pushing a liberal agenda. You're a dumbass because not EVERY teacher does and you can't tell the difference.

 

You can't have a double standard when comparing apples and oranges, dumbass.

[eddo]

All generalizations are false, including this one. ~ Mark Twain

 

Everybody loves generalizations!!!

 

- I dunno...

[timesjoke]

And I never said EVERY ACORN worker was corrupt, dumbass. I believe the institution is nefarious.

 

It doesn't matter how many instances of teachers and teacher's unions pushing a liberal agenda. You're a dumbass because not EVERY teacher does and you can't tell the difference.

 

You can't have a double standard when comparing apples and oranges, dumbass.

 

Do you think the Buildings of ACORN and the school buildings are corrupt?

 

Is there some outside element making these groups bad or is it instead the "PEOPLE" who are the members who make the group bad?

 

 

You want to pretend like the overal corruption of ACORN and Schools have nothing to do with the people and that is why your the dumbass, not me IWS.

 

 

 

It is like saying the Government is corrupt, but the politicians have nothing to do with it, lol. Your just not making any sense.

 

 

 

 

 

As I already pointed out and you ignored because it does not fit your desire, all of the teachers in this school knew what was happening and not one of them spoke out, went to the news or otherwise tried to protect these small children from Indoctrination, they stood by and did nothing so even if they are not directly doing the actions, "ALL" of the teachers are involved in the coverup.

 

 

 

Let me offer you another example you may be more likely to understand my point. A cop beats the crap out of a person without good cause. Nobody else in the department knows about what happened so they are not "all" involved at that time but the same officer admits to everyone in the department what he did and if they do not take action against him, then they all now share his guilt in what he did.

 

 

 

Teachers who are not directly involved in this Liberal agenda but who stay silent and do not fight against it are just as much a part of the result because their inaction was still an action that helped those who did.

[ImWithStupid]

Do you think the Buildings of ACORN and the school buildings are corrupt?

 

Is there some outside element making these groups bad or is it instead the "PEOPLE" who are the members who make the group bad?

 

 

You want to pretend like the overal corruption of ACORN and Schools have nothing to do with the people and that is why your the dumbass, not me IWS.

 

 

 

It is like saying the Government is corrupt, but the politicians have nothing to do with it, lol. Your just not making any sense.

 

 

 

 

 

As I already pointed out and you ignored because it does not fit your desire, all of the teachers in this school knew what was happening and not one of them spoke out, went to the news or otherwise tried to protect these small children from Indoctrination, they stood by and did nothing so even if they are not directly doing the actions, "ALL" of the teachers are involved in the coverup.

 

 

 

Let me offer you another example you may be more likely to understand my point. A cop beats the crap out of a person without good cause. Nobody else in the department knows about what happened so they are not "all" involved at that time but the same officer admits to everyone in the department what he did and if they do not take action against him, then they all now share his guilt in what he did.

 

 

 

Teachers who are not directly involved in this Liberal agenda but who stay silent and do not fight against it are just as much a part of the result because their inaction was still an action that helped those who did.

 

 

No dumbass. There are independent school districts all over the country. Once you get away from the left and right coast, there are many, if not most that do not push a liberal, progressive agenda, and some on the coasts, also.

 

To say that EVERY member of ACORN or teachers unions are, anything, is like saying that Government is corrupt, so that means the guy who works at the IRS center in Ogden, UT has to be corrupt also.

 

DUMBASS!

[eddo]

oh lookie!

 

A new day, and there is TJ telling us all how he knows how an entire group of peopel feel again.

 

 

 

 

 

shocker...

[ImWithStupid]

I think it's official...

 

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[timesjoke]

No dumbass. There are independent school districts all over the country. Once you get away from the left and right coast, there are many, if not most that do not push a liberal, progressive agenda, and some on the coasts, also.

 

To say that EVERY member of ACORN or teachers unions are, anything, is like saying that Government is corrupt, so that means the guy who works at the IRS center in Ogden, UT has to be corrupt also.

 

DUMBASS!

 

There are seperate Acorn offices as well, you keep trying to dodge the issue at hand of painting a group with an idea of them being something based on what we have seen some of them do and more important, what we do not see them do.

 

 

Part of what paints all of ACORN as bad is their reactions to these events at local offices, again out of 5 released videos, only 4 people have been released and two of them look to be comming back now so their refusal to take action to go after at theas the known problem people means they are all corrupt.

 

 

 

The same is true for schools, all schools in every district in America has made very liberal changes from one degree to another. If you would like to refute that please name the State you believe is completely free of Liberal changes I am mentioning and I will gladly show you some examples to prove your wrong.

[timesjoke]

oh lookie!

 

A new day, and there is TJ telling us all how he knows how an entire group of peopel feel again.

 

 

 

 

 

shocker...

 

More negative I see, all you ever post is attacks on me eddo, why is that?

 

 

And nobody had issue with several of us saying the entire group of Acorn was corrupt as I was pointing about IWS saying. The only problem any of you have is not what was said, but who said it....as you always seem to be.

[ImWithStupid]

There are seperate Acorn offices as well, you keep trying to dodge the issue at hand of painting a group with an idea of them being something based on what we have seen some of them do and more important, what we do not see them do.

 

 

You're right and I don't think EVERY ACORN office, office manager, employee, branch, etc... are nefarious.

 

I believe many aren't political in nature, many are doing a job because they want to help people, many don't care who the hell Wade Rathke or Dale Rathke were.

 

There are many parts of ACORN that does good things, but I believe the upper level of the organization is nefarious in their use of the power of the organization.

 

I didn't paint a group of people as anything. I gave my opinion of an organization, and the fact that you can't tell the difference is what keeps you proving over and over again that you are a DUMBASS!!!

 

Now if I said all people posting on this site that live in Florida are dumbass' because you live in Florida, post on here, and you're a dumbass, that would be what you did to EVERY teacher in the country.

[eddo]

More negative I see, all you ever post is attacks on me eddo, why is that?

 

yep, every single post I make is nothing but an attack on you...

 

and that wasn't an attack. It was a fact. I can state the facts any way I want, as long as they are facts, right fatty?

 

 

IWS is right. You're a DUMBASS

[timesjoke]

You're right and I don't think EVERY ACORN office, office manager, employee, branch, etc... are nefarious.

 

I believe many aren't political in nature, many are doing a job because they want to help people, many don't care who the hell Wade Rathke or Dale Rathke were.

 

There are many parts of ACORN that does good things, but I believe the upper level of the organization is nefarious in their use of the power of the organization.

 

I didn't paint a group of people as anything. I gave my opinion of an organization, and the fact that you can't tell the difference is what keeps you proving over and over again that you are a DUMBASS!!!

 

Now if I said all people posting on this site that live in Florida are dumbass' because you live in Florida, post on here, and you're a dumbass, that would be what you did to EVERY teacher in the country.

 

 

 

lol, so now your trying to change history like you never flammed ACORN in general.

 

 

I asked you to offer me an example of a school that was not being subjected to these general liberal agendas, I guess you refusing to offer an example is you admitting I am right but you just can't bring yourself to admit it with words.......and that makes you more angry for me to prove your a hypocrite willing to judge groups like Acorn and even Liberals in general but also put me down for doing the same thing with more evidence proving my point than you can show against ACORN.

 

 

Call me names if your childish nature requires it to feel better about yourself, but your still not addressing the issue of your double standard and how all schools do impose liberal agendas on their students. Yes, some greater than others, but all do this to some degree no matter where the school is.

[timesjoke]

yep, every single post I make is nothing but an attack on you...

 

 

IWS is right. You're a DUMBASS

 

 

No, just the posts you make about me are attacks, all of them.

[ImWithStupid]

lol, so now your trying to change history like you never flammed ACORN in general.

 

 

I asked you to offer me an example of a school that was not being subjected to these general liberal agendas, I guess you refusing to offer an example is you admitting I am right but you just can't bring yourself to admit it with words.......and that makes you more angry for me to prove your a hypocrite willing to judge groups like Acorn and even Liberals in general but also put me down for doing the same thing with more evidence proving my point than you can show against ACORN.

 

 

Call me names if your childish nature requires it to feel better about yourself, but your still not addressing the issue of your double standard and how all schools do impose liberal agendas on their students. Yes, some greater than others, but all do this to some degree no matter where the school is.

 

 

I do think ACORN is a nefarious organization. I don't think every employee is nefarious and never said so.

 

No double standard. No change in history. I'm just not a dumbass who can't tell the difference between labeling every member of a group with a narrow minded generalization and believing an organization can be nefarious, i.e. ACORN or teachers unions, without every member or employee being the same.

 

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EQUALS...

 

 

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[timesjoke]

Let's just take a look at the "safe schools czar" Kevin Jennings.

 

The only thing Jennings is famous for in schools for safety is for encouraging young boys into homosexuality. In his time as a school teacher and an advocate for teaching young boys about alternatave sexual lifestyles, he has been a steady critic of all religious groups and even spoke of his own drug abuse as a child like it was no big deal.

 

One of the groups Jennings helped to found was even revealed to be teaching specific homosexual acts to children in their school sponsored events like :

 

"Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's rectum or vagina) often gets a bad rap....[it's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode."

 

 

IWS, for you to claim that there is not at least a general Liberal push in the actionms of all schools shows you either have no clue as to what is really happening in the schools or your just making stuff up to take a shot at me.

[ImWithStupid]

I asked you to offer me an example of a school that was not being subjected to these general liberal agendas, I guess you refusing to offer an example is you admitting I am right but you just can't bring yourself to admit it with words.......

 

 

Florida school officials in prayer case could get jail time - CNN.com

 

 

Texas school district to let teachers carry guns | Reuters

 

 

The school district where my kids go, doesn't allow same sex couples to dances.

 

 

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EQUALS...

 

 

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[Ahhlee]

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[ImWithStupid]

IWS, for you to claim that there is not at least a general Liberal push in the actionms of all schools shows you either have no clue as to what is really happening in the schools or your just making stuff up to take a shot at me.

 

 

I never said that.

 

You're argument isn't "a general liberal push", you stated, "every teacher in America is purely radical liberal".

 

That's why you're a dumbass. You can't tell the difference.

[RoyalOrleans]

IWS, for you to claim that there is not at least a general Liberal push in the actionms of all schools shows you either have no clue as to what is really happening in the schools or your just making stuff up to take a shot at me.

 

I think IWS can use YOUR OWN WORDS to take a shot at YOU, dumbass.

 

Dumbass.

[Ahhlee]

I never said that.

 

You're argument isn't "a general liberal push", you stated, "every teacher in America is purely radical liberal".

 

That's why you're a dumbass. You can't tell the difference.

 

You're right, of course, but you're wasting your keystrokes by arguing with a:

 

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Stonewall Techniques:

 

1. Denial: (Complete Denial, Virtual Denial, Selective Denial)

2. Diversion: (Deflection, Avoidance, Counterattack)

3. Disguise: (Explanation, Qualification, Obfuscation)

 

 

1. Denial - A refusal to grant the truth of a statement or allegation

 

A. Complete Denial - A complete or blanket denial of all charges

B. Virtual Denial - Denial of entire charge because of a partial

inaccuracy in charge

C. Selective Denial - Denying parts of a charge because of an inaccuracy

in the charge and then ignoring all other aspects

 

 

2. Diversion - A turning aside or altering of the course of questioning

 

A. Deflection - To redirect line of questioning to avoid answering in

response to uncomfortable facts

B. Avoidance - Ignores question; reinterprets question; gives answer

to the questions as he would have liked it asked

C. Counterattack - Withering retort directed at questioner; hopes to

to make questioner look foolish or petty by exchange

 

 

3. Disguise - Camouflage of facts which a witness must readily concede

 

A. Explanation - Drown out uncomfortable admissions with self-serving

or irrelevant static

B. Qualification - minimize or soften admission by qualifying it or

mitigating it in some way

C. Obfuscation - To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to

perceive or understand - Cloud issues, Muddy waters.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

And now this post is officially derailed...

 

TJ, I'm not one who gets in and attacks anybody... Why is it that every single time you are rebuked, it's a personal attack and you have to flood the post with irrelevant crap to prove a point that has nothing to do with the rebuke?

 

I don't get it... He reminds me of another member that frequented some old boards and has been to this one. Need me to vague that up some?

[mercury]

That's kinda like saying all men are pigs....

 

Did I hear TJ say "Oink"?

[timesjoke]

I never said that.

 

You're argument isn't "a general liberal push", you stated, "every teacher in America is purely radical liberal".

 

That's why you're a dumbass. You can't tell the difference.

 

 

Okay, maybe now you can get past your need to dissagree just because it is me saying this.

 

 

You agree there is a general liberal puch in all schools, now that is at least a small step on your part to seeing the truth, now let's see if I can get you to take the next step.

 

 

 

How does this happen if other teachers are fighting against it? That is where your missing the boat either intentionally or because your just brainwashed to blindly accept anything done by a teacher.

 

Even the few teachers who are not directly doing these actions are at the very least keeping their mouths closed about this and that makes them part of the problem.

 

 

 

 

 

Ali, interesting that if I post something you perceive as negative on one of your threads about you....you cry like a big baby and ask for my posts to be moved but you don't seem to have any problems with making a pure flame post about me in my thread.

 

 

Whay happened to your claim of wanting to keep the mess off the regular forum?

[mercury]

all I can see on my screen is:

 

"Oink. OInk oinkoinkoink oink oink oink. Squeeeaaaaal. Oink. Squeal, oink, oink."

 

any one else having the same problem?

[Ahhlee]

Ali, interesting that if I post something you perceive as negative on one of your threads about you....you cry like a big baby and ask for my posts to be moved but you don't seem to have any problems with making a pure flame post about me in my thread.

 

 

Whay happened to your claim of wanting to keep the mess off the regular forum?

 

I never asked for anyone to remove anything. Your accusation is absolutely false.

 

My replies here have been completely in line with the topic of the thread. If you are seeing a personal attack against yourself, your family, your dog, or any of your other latest and greatest achievements then you are both sorely mistaken and mentally unbalanced.

 

You're seeing "pure flames" where there are none.

 

If you'd like to continue this dialogue, then let's head on down to the free for all.

[timesjoke]

And now this post is officially derailed...

 

TJ, I'm not one who gets in and attacks anybody... Why is it that every single time you are rebuked, it's a personal attack and you have to flood the post with irrelevant crap to prove a point that has nothing to do with the rebuke?

 

I don't get it... He reminds me of another member that frequented some old boards and has been to this one. Need me to vague that up some?

 

So IWS comming out calling me a dumbass then everyone else piling on is "my" fault?

 

 

I said all teachers are pushing the liberal agenda because even if their just being silent, they are contributing to the problem. I offered examples like cops who cover up the abuse of a cop are also guilty of the abuse as well to try and help IWS understand my point but he is intentionally ignoring the point just to justify his original need to flame me.