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[ImWithStupid]

You never offered a single qualifer, if you had put "in my world" before any of your comments then I would agree you limited your comment but you never did that so you were clearly trying to make it sound like "all" motorboat use fell in your description.

 

 

 

 

Semantics, you never offered a single qualifier that only "you" would see this as Humiliating, you instead offered that as all women in general.

 

 

 

 

You didn't say it was humiliating to "some" women, or just "you", you did not offer any exception in any way.

 

 

 

 

There is more than one way to mean "all" without using the actual word, one of them is to not offer any other alternative as you did with both your statements of fact that a motorboat was "humiliating"

 

 

 

Meant to humiliate a woman.

 

Not "some women". Not a "few women". Not any exception so your intent is to say "ALL".

 

 

So when Ali doesn't say "ALL" we should assume it's all, but when you make the claim of "ALL" we shouldn't take it literal?

[timesjoke]

So when Ali doesn't say "ALL" we should assume it's all, but when you make the claim of "ALL" we shouldn't take it literal?

 

Intent is intent.

 

I don't have a problem with you asking me to address my "all" comment, and in that sense I was wrong to use the word "all" without a qualifier and that is why I followed up and gave my reasons for saying "All" because in my mind, those being silent are just as bad as those who are driving this agenda.

 

 

I gave several examples to clarify my point but you ignored my clarifications so you could keep making the personal flames.

 

 

Ali never made a single exception in her saying that a motorboat is meant to "humiliate" and control women, not one.

[ImWithStupid]

Intent is intent.

 

I don't have a problem with you asking me to address my "all" comment, and in that sense I was wrong to use the word "all" without a qualifier and that is why I followed up and gave my reasons for saying "All" because in my mind, those being silent are just as bad as those who are driving this agenda.

 

 

I gave several examples to clarify my point but you ignored my clarifications so you could keep making the personal flames.

 

 

You gave a few examples out of thousands of school districts in the US. Many teachers don't follow your "radical liberal" claim and I gave examples.

 

Many teachers don't care about politics. Many administrations don't care about national politics.

 

What you can't seem to grasp is that just because a librarian in Idaho, who joins the NEA for protection from lawsuits, with only a desire to teach and help children, that doesn't make her a "part of the problem".

 

Just because a worker joins ACORN in Salt Lake City in an effort to help the downtrodden, and could care less about what happens in the national ACORN, doesn't make her corrupt.

 

There are so many branches and factions of the NEA, and many factions of ACORN that aren't political, in far reaching, pockets of the country, and have nothing to do with or care about the national agenda of these organization and only want to help people, to label them as so is a negligent claim (since you don't like the word ignorant).

 

Even though the overall, national, or nation wide slant of the NEA is left leaning, there are many school districts, and many more teachers who don't agree with the overall agenda.

 

It's your continued blanket claims of all of these people this, or most of these people that, with zero substantive backup that made me challenge you on this.

 

It's a pattern or behavior you seem to try to make fact, your opinion, without factual basis and the fact that you said it should be enough, that gets tiring.

[timesjoke]

You gave a few examples out of thousands of school districts in the US. Many teachers don't follow your "radical liberal" claim and I gave examples.

 

Many teachers don't care about politics. Many administrations don't care about national politics.

 

What you can't seem to grasp is that just because a librarian in Idaho, who joins the NEA for protection from lawsuits, with only a desire to teach and help children, that doesn't make her a "part of the problem".

 

Just because a worker joins ACORN in Salt Lake City in an effort to help the downtrodden, and could care less about what happens in the national ACORN, doesn't make her corrupt.

 

There are so many branches and factions of the NEA, and many factions of ACORN that aren't political, in far reaching, pockets of the country, and have nothing to do with or care about the national agenda of these organization and only want to help people, to label them as so is a negligent claim (since you don't like the word ignorant).

 

Even though the overall, national, or nation wide slant of the NEA is left leaning, there are many school districts, and many more teachers who don't agree with the overall agenda.

 

It's your continued blanket claims of all of these people this, or most of these people that, with zero substantive backup that made me challenge you on this.

 

It's a pattern or behavior you seem to try to make fact, your opinion, without factual basis and the fact that you said it should be enough, that gets tiring.

 

 

As I said, I agree you had a good reason to question of my use of "all". Even though you came out flamming me I ignored your flames and tried to clarify my possition on using the "all" claim.

 

 

Just being a member does not mean these people support the agenda of the majority of their group......but their "SILENCE" does Joe.

 

 

That is why I offered you the example of a dirty cop and the other cops covering up for the dirty cop means they are "all" just as guilty.

 

 

But your not interested in my possition or my clarifying, all you want is someone to flame, and I am an easy target, but why go for the easy target Joe? You could say I was Bin Laden and Ali, eddo, Chi, and RO would all jump on the band wagon and swear what you said was true because that is all any of you do these days.

 

 

As I pointed out, Ali did the same thing without the use of the word "all". You know that is true and you also know you nor anyone else said one word about her "generalized comment" because at it's core Ali's comment was only meant as a flame on me, and anything that is a flame on me is awsome to all of you.

 

 

Hypocrite

 

 

At least I made an honest attempt to ignore your flames to still discuss my point, none of you did, you never do.

[ImWithStupid]

As I said, I agree you had a good reason to question of my use of "all". Even though you came out flamming me I ignored your flames and tried to clarify my possition on using the "all" claim.

 

 

Just being a member does not mean these people support the agenda of the majority of their group......but their "SILENCE" does Joe.

 

 

That is why I offered you the example of a dirty cop and the other cops covering up for the dirty cop means they are "all" just as guilty.

 

 

But your not interested in my possition or my clarifying, all you want is someone to flame, and I am an easy target, but why go for the easy target Joe? You could say I was Bin Laden and Ali, eddo, Chi, and RO would all jump on the band wagon and swear what you said was true because that is all any of you do these days.

 

 

So the lowly guy who drives truck for some company in Idaho, that demands that if you want a job, you join the teamsters, should be held accountable for the actions of Jimmy Hoffa lending money to the mob in Las Vegas, even thought he has no idea his union dues are being used for that?

 

There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of teachers in the US, and to blame those that don't give a fukk about politics of the NEA as "part of the problem" but only do what they can to educate, not indoctrinate kids, is IGNORANT.

 

You have delusions of grandeur. Everyone else saw that you couldn't get through your thick skull what my point was, and believe me RO, Chi, eddo and even ali and I have had or rounds either here or at the jungle so quit your, attempts to play the fukkin marter already and accept that you act like an ass and people don't like it.

 

 

As I pointed out, Ali did the same thing without the use of the word "all". You know that is true and you also know you nor anyone else said one word about her "generalized comment" because at it's core Ali's comment was only meant as a flame on me, and anything that is a flame on me is awsome to all of you.

 

 

Hypocrite

 

 

At least I made an honest attempt to ignore your flames to still discuss my point, none of you did, you never do.

 

You make no sense in your argument as usual, but not always. The whole motorboat thing happend when I wasn't even frequenting the board and didn't really care, but your claim that when she didn't use an absolute qualifier should be interpreted as an absolute qualifier, but when you did use an absolute qualifier but we shouldn't have thought it was one, is easily observed as a BS ploy to make yourself not look like a tool, a 5th grade Obama song singer could have pointed it out.

[timesjoke]

 

So the lowly guy who drives truck for some company in Idaho, that demands that if you want a job, you join the teamsters, should be held accountable for the actions of Jimmy Hoffa lending money to the mob in Las Vegas, even thought he has no idea his union dues are being used for that?

 

 

Bad comparison, your example assumes the driver knows nothing about what is happening, that is not the same thing as what is happening in our schools Joe.

 

Take this video for example, are you trying to tell me that you think only one or two teachers knew about what was happening?

 

Even the school board is only upset at the video being released, not what the teachers have done.

 

 

 

There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of teachers in the US, and to blame those that don't give a fukk about politics of the NEA as "part of the problem" but only do what they can to educate, not indoctrinate kids, is IGNORANT.

 

They are "part of the problem" if they know about what is happening and turn a blind eye to it Joe.

 

And I thought I was a dumbass, your confusing me with all the changes of flames, tell me again why you need to lean on the flame crutch.........?

 

 

You have delusions of grandeur. Everyone else saw that you couldn't get through your thick skull what my point was, and believe me RO, Chi, eddo and even ali and I have had or rounds either here or at the jungle so quit your, attempts to play the fukkin marter already and accept that you act like an ass and people don't like it.

 

While you could not get it through your thick skull what my point was?

 

You have been joining in on the gangbangs on me at the jungle and even on the free speach forum where you said I was a child molester Joe, you have a long history of being part of the estrogen mafia and attacking me for the sake of attacking me......no reason required.

 

 

 

You make no sense in your argument as usual, but not always. The whole motorboat thing happend when I wasn't even frequenting the board and didn't really care, but your claim that when she didn't use an absolute qualifier should be interpreted as an absolute qualifier, but when you did use an absolute qualifier but we shouldn't have thought it was one, is easily observed as a BS ploy to make yourself not look like a tool, a 5th grade Obama song singer could have pointed it out.

 

She did use an absolute Joe.

 

Show me where there was any limit to this statement:

 

I'm not surprised you enjoy engaging in such a juvenille act that is meant to humiliate a woman sexually and keep her "under control". Not surpised at all

 

Ali said the act was meant to humiliate a woman. She made no exceptions, no exclusions and you know my point is valid, but it is me making it so no big deal right?

[ImWithStupid]

Bad comparison, your example assumes the driver knows nothing about what is happening, that is not the same thing as what is happening in our schools Joe.

 

Take this video for example, are you trying to tell me that you think only one or two teachers knew about what was happening?

 

Even the school board is only upset at the video being released, not what the teachers have done.

 

 

 

 

 

They are "part of the problem" if they know about what is happening and turn a blind eye to it Joe.

 

And I thought I was a dumbass, your confusing me with all the changes of flames, tell me again why you need to lean on the flame crutch.........?

 

 

 

 

While you could not get it through your thick skull what my point was?

 

You have been joining in on the gangbangs on me at the jungle and even on the free speach forum where you said I was a child molester Joe, you have a long history of being part of the estrogen mafia and attacking me for the sake of attacking me......no reason required.

 

 

 

 

 

She did use an absolute Joe.

 

Show me where there was any limit to this statement:

 

 

 

Ali said the act was meant to humiliate a woman. She made no exceptions, no exclusions and you know my point is valid, but it is me making it so no big deal right?

 

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[timesjoke]

More running away I see there Joe.

 

You offer a bad example but you call me names?

 

I took responsibility for my improper usage of the word "all" without also offering my reasons, I accept that I should have included my point that even the few teachers who did not want to push this agenda are still in on the mess because they are sitting back being silent, refusing to fight against it.

 

 

I thought you would understand my dirty cop example where everyone knows about him but they all stay silent making them just as guilty, either you cannot see past your need to flame me and understand my example or your intentionally ignoring my clarification because you have a thorn in your paw.....I do not know what one, but either way I did what I feel was right to set my possition right and I know I am not the one who started out flamming......that was you.

[Ahhlee]

TJ, could you answer one question for me honestly? Because I'm dying to know.....do you truly not see that what you are doing leaves your arguments wide open and vulnerable to opposition or are you simply doing it to be an ass?

 

I really, really would love to know.

 

Still waiting.