timesjoke Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Pregnant mother-of-13 says 'I will keep having babies until I have twins' | Mail Online To put the story short, this is a woman living mostly on public assistence who is having her 14th child and says she will keep on having more children until she has twins. "She said: 'All I've ever wanted is twins or triplets. It's my biggest wish, and I'm going to keep trying until I do it. 'It would be fantastic. In fact, I won't stop trying until I've done it. I love having babies - it's the most wonderful thing in the world.' " My question is why is the Government still rewarding this woman's bad behavior? She knows she can't afford to support her own children but she still gets pregnant every year and admits she is going to keep going until she has twins so my question is two parts........ 1- Should the Government take action to protect tax funds from people like this? 2- Is there any possible child welfare concerns with spitting out babies like a pezz dispenser when you don't even have bedrooms for the children you have? 1 Quote
emkay64 Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 I believe in mandatory sterilization for this maroon. She's stunned. Quote
eddo Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 I believe in mandatory sterilization for this maroon. She's stunned. I completely agree- but only because she is on gov't aid. if she could support them on her own, then have at it. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
RegisteredAndEducated Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 I completely agree- but only because she is on gov't aid. if she could support them on her own, then have at it. I could not have said it better myself. Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...
timesjoke Posted November 24, 2009 Author Posted November 24, 2009 I believe in mandatory sterilization for this maroon. She's stunned. There was a story I remember reading from Canda where a woman there had around 16 kids and they figued up the Canadian Government will pay her over a million dollars just for having babies. I wonder at why our society is paying people to behave poorly? We had a discussion of a story where a small group was paying girls (that had to be used for higher education) to not get pregnant, if you ask me......my tax dollar, I would rather pay the girl to get an education. In fact that is the only "welfare" I would agree with. Eliminate all programs that reward sitting at home making babies and instead give every child who can handle it a 4 year college education for free. Why? Because a better educated person is more likely to be more motivated, have a higher self-respect, and earn more money. That higher earner is paying a lifetime of taxes all based on the education he/she received and will pay back what was given them in time. Quote
snafu Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Well I would asume the goverment would ask who the father or fathers are and collect child support from them. She would then have to remburse the goverment.. Right? Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
hugo Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Maybe she will get her own reality show and get off the public dole. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 Well I would asume the goverment would ask who the father or fathers are and collect child support from them. She would then have to remburse the goverment.. Right? Assuming the father has a job.....or that the woman knows who the father is......even if she knows she could give false info knowing the support she will get from the Government will be better than what she will get from the piece of garbage she let get her pregnant. Sort of on topic for rewarding bad behavior, did you know "most" states allow women to trap men with fraud to get them to pay child support for a child that is not their child? Here is one popular scam: Woman knows of man who travels a lot and is out of town, she gives his name and a false address for him when she files for paternity/child support order with the courts. If the man does not find out about the order and files a appeal within 1 year of the original order, he can "NEVER" get that order changed even with DNA evidence proving he is not the father. This is possible in over 30 states including my own State of Florida. You know Hugo, I have real issues with these mothers who exploit their children on these reality shows like that kate plus 8 (not sure of the name, never watched it) where a woman basically ended her marriage on the reality show and had 8 children all mixed up with it. I can't imagine how many issues could spring up with kids in school and dealing with their train wreck lives exposed to everyone..... Quote
eddo Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 the article suggested that her live in "significant other" was the father of all the kids- the second one is named after him. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
hugo Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I wonder at why our society is paying people to behave poorly? We had a discussion of a story where a small group was paying girls (that had to be used for higher education) to not get pregnant, if you ask me......my tax dollar, I would rather pay the girl to get an education. In fact that is the only "welfare" I would agree with. Eliminate all programs that reward sitting at home making babies and instead give every child who can handle it a 4 year college education for free. Because a better educated person is more likely to be more motivated, have a higher self-respect, and earn more money. That higher earner is paying a lifetime of taxes all based on the education he/she received and will pay back what was given them in time. US Government: 71% percent of college graduates can't read proficiently nces.ed.gov ? The National Center for Education Statistics just released their latest survey of adult English literacy in the United States. According to the study, 95.4% of high school graduates and 71% of college graduates cannot read proficiently. This means they can't compute the cost per once of food or compare and contrast two op-eds, among other things. Got enough idiots with college educations already. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RegisteredAndEducated Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 . Got enough idiots with college educations already. US Government: 71% percent of college graduates can't read proficiently nces.ed.gov ? The National Center for Education Statistics just released their latest survey of adult English literacy in the United States. According to the study, 95.4% of high school graduates and 71% of college graduates cannot read proficiently. This means they can't compute the cost per once of food or compare and contrast two op-eds, among other things I hope that wasn't supposed to be ounce... Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...
eddo Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 I hope that wasn't supposed to be ounce... LMAO!!!! oops! That's like something I would do! Quote I'm trusted by more women.
hugo Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 I hope that wasn't supposed to be ounce... The author probably one of dem college graduates. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 . Got enough idiots with college educations already. Sounds more like a problem with horrible teachers and a lack of standards in our locations of learning then anything else. How could a school pass someone who can't read? But let me put it this way, an education could not hurt someone's chances either. certainly that is better than cutting checks for people to sit at home smoking pot and eating cheesy poofs? Quote
atlantic Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 My ? is why? I truly cannot understand people's selfishness. I also feel the government should not support such women. In every case I've known (and I mean every) the welfare mom was a ty mother, who not only did not provide food for their children or protection. They could care less about the kids. It seemed to me they were looking for a free ride. Now I'm sure this is not the case in every situation, unfortunately all the cases I've seen however. Also, if you cannot afford the kids, THEN STOP POPPING THEM OUT FOR F CKS SAKE. It is not fair to the children either. My mom was on welfare when I was a child. I was so embarrased I refused to eat free lunch. To me it was always a stigma and an embarrassment. Her parenting skills sucked ass too - but didn't stop her from getting her check every month - not that I ever saw any of it. NO the government should force these women to get a college education and deny any additional birth support and make sure the women know this will happen upon first enrolling. Otherwise, you simply have a reward system for bad parents. Quote Do the right thing!
timesjoke Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 It stands to reason if you tell people that they can make more money if they have more children, that "some" women will do exactly that. At the very least there should only be one payout amount, it is not fair to people who apply restraint to get paid less money then women who have no self control at all over their reproductive system. I hate welfare as it is anyway, but we should not be rewarding people who on purpose make their situation worse. I also believe anyone on public assistence should have to submit to drug testing so we can prove no tax funds are going to drug dealers. If you have plenty of money for drugs then you do not need welfare. 1 Quote
hugo Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I think merc said it best; "Kill all the welfare bums. Kill them all!" Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
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