Ahhlee Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I have no idea what your trying to imply RO? You taking a shot at me again? When have I ever taken a possition that people should be attacked if they say things I do not agree with? I have no idea even where your comment comes from. I am not taking up for anyone RO, you need to go read my posts and try to understand the words I have posted, I even said in my last I was hardly a fan of this woman but when free speach is only tolerated when the speaker is saying what you want to hear, that is not free speach. I have been very clear on this subject so there is no real honerable reason for your comment to me, your obviously just trying to start something. Oh. My. God. Here, TJ: . I got you the Gentle Glide pack, because clearly you have an exceptionally sensitive vagina. And before you start running your mouth....hell yes, this was an intentional flame. RO's comment was not. Learn the fucking difference. 1 Quote
Anna Perenna Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 The fact is the students had a right to protest. They have free speech too. I could be missing something. What was "threatening" besides a large crowd? Was there some lactating gal walking around topless? The pussification of America continues Patrick Henry "Give me liberty or give me death." Ann Coulter "I'm scared." Cheers Hugo. At no point in TJ's post did I read that any of the protesting students actually threatened violence. It was barely even implied. So it's a real shame that TJ based his indignation / argument around exactly that. This thread is yet another pointless 'debate', based on mere biased speculation, created by TJ simply to push his agenda. It should have been ignored, and relegated to oblivion post-haste. Yet, here we are again!! 1 Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
ImWithStupid Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 This thread is yet another pointless 'debate', based on mere biased speculation, created by TJ simply to push his agenda. It should have been ignored, and relegated to oblivion post-haste. Yet, here we are again!! Sadly though, even people like TJ have a right to free speech. 1 Quote
hugo Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Sadly though, even people like TJ have a right to free speech. Not on a private forum. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. --- I Amendment of the Constitution 1 Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Anna Perenna Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Sadly though, even people like TJ have a right to free speech. I know he's free to post whatever he likes. I just don't understand why people keep replying to his posts. :angry: :huh: Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
ImWithStupid Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Two points of notice... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. --- I Amendment of the Constitution ...and one person's rights end when they affect or violate the rights of another. The jackhole's speech can't interfere with another from exercising their right to free speech. (I don't know the whole story but their may have been an issue with the "peaceably assemble" part, also) Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 ...and one person's rights end when they affect or violate the rights of another. The jackhole's speech can't interfere with another from exercising their right to free speech. (I don't know the whole story but their may have been an issue with the "peaceably assemble" part, also) Here's the article... Heckler roughed up outside McCain rally After reviewing it again, the heckler did in fact infringe on Palin's speech with his own. And there is no doubt that he interceded on the right to peaceably assemble. I respectfully withdraw my remark concerning his rights being violated. As much as I hate Palin and McCain and the rest of the limp wristed centrists, they do in fact have rights. Even if they are hijackers of the Libertarian Tea Party movement. (Kind of always felt Republican to me anyways.) At any rate.... Just a couple side questions, not instigating any sort of to-and-fro argument over the First Amendment: Is all free speech about waiting your turn to speak? If the heckler had waiting in abeyance to speak his mind or when he was called on, used the same words, do you believe that he would've been met with force? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
ImWithStupid Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 Just a couple side questions, not instigating any sort of to-and-fro argument over the First Amendment: Is all free speech about waiting your turn to speak? If the heckler had waiting in abeyance to speak his mind or when he was called on, used the same words, do you believe that he would've been met with force? It's hard telling. I suppose it depends on his message. In my opinion, this is closer to violating someone's free speech rights... Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 It's hard telling. I suppose it depends on his message. In my opinion, this is closer to violating someone's free speech rights... That's probably closer to the point I was aiming, but I failed to put into words what was rolling around in my head. I will have to work on my flanking maneuvers. At any rate... free speech shall not be infringed except when you (after waiting your turn) speak against the establishment. Would you consider this a violation of the "redress of grievances"? Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
eddo Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 It's hard telling. I suppose it depends on his message. In my opinion, this is closer to violating someone's free speech rights... "Don't tase me Bro!!" classic freaking entertainment right there. 1 Quote I'm trusted by more women.
RoyalOrleans Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 "Don't tase me Bro!!" classic freaking entertainment right there. I'm getting a t-shirt made with that exact quote. 1 Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
timesjoke Posted April 5, 2010 Author Posted April 5, 2010 Cheers Hugo. At no point in TJ's post did I read that any of the protesting students actually threatened violence. It was barely even implied. So it's a real shame that TJ based his indignation / argument around exactly that. This thread is yet another pointless 'debate', based on mere biased speculation, created by TJ simply to push his agenda. It should have been ignored, and relegated to oblivion post-haste. Yet, here we are again!! Then you did not read it: A spokesman for the organizers said Coulter was advised against appearing after about 2,000 "threatening" students crowded the entrance to Marion Hall, posing a security threat. "It would be physically dangerous for Ann Coulter to proceed with this event," said conservative political activist Ezra Levant inside the hall. "This is an embarrassing day for the University of Ottawa and their student body . . . who chose to silence her through threats and intimidation." A protest organizer, international studies student Mike Fancie, said he was pleased they were able to stop Coulter from speaking. Do you think just casual comments by the group would have been considered a security risk? Ann was able to talk at two other locations in Canada without the threats and risk of harm, why was this one place different? You know my dear, if you think the kinds of discussion topics I make are pointless, show me how it is done and stop pointing your finger. I am glad to be your student if your willing to show me through example. 1 Quote
hugo Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Then you did not read it: Do you think just casual comments by the group would have been considered a security risk? Ann was able to talk at two other locations in Canada without the threats and risk of harm, why was this one place different? You know my dear, if you think the kinds of discussion topics I make are pointless, show me how it is done and stop pointing your finger. I am glad to be your student if your willing to show me through example. Why don't you tell us what that threatening action of the students was? Sorry, sounds like the security guys wanted to take the night off to me. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Why don't you tell us what that threatening action of the students was? Sorry, sounds like the security guys wanted to take the night off to me. Threatening was in quotations. Coulter was in immediate danger from Canadians. (sarcasm) 1 Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Coulter was in immediate danger from Canadians. (sarcasm) Obviously you have never been on the receiving end of an emkay left hook. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
emkay64 Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Obviously you have never been on the receiving end of an emkay left hook. Damn right yo! Don't be messin' with us...cuz we CARAZAY!!!! 1 Quote
ImWithStupid Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Coulter was in immediate danger from Canadians. The only phrase heard less often, "...was in immediate danger from the French". 1 Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Canadian threats of violence: "Ann, ya gorby! You know, Ann. We don't really like your tone, you know, eh? So, yah, let's have a Molson." 1 Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
emkay64 Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Canadian threats of violence: "Ann, ya gorby! You know, Ann. We don't really like your tone, you know, eh? So, yah, let's have a Molson." I'll give you a point for your use of the term "Gorby"...but you've used "eh" entirely too often, and no good Canadian drinks Molson..we know better. This may be better..."Anne ya Gorby, you got more lip on ya than a coal pail. Why don't you take a header back south eh? Let's go to Timmy Ho's for a double double." or if it's later in the day... "Let's head over to the Lick-Bo and pick us up a tipper and a two-four". or most likely..... "This chick is brutal, let's go nab a deego!" 1 Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 I'll give you a point for your use of the term "Gorby"...but you've used "eh" entirely too often, and no good Canadian drinks Molson..we know better. This may be better..."Anne ya Gorby, you got more lip on ya than a coal pail. Why don't you take a header back south eh? Let's go to Timmy Ho's for a double double." or if it's later in the day... "Let's head over to the Lick-Bo and pick us up a tipper and a two-four". or most likely..... "This chick is brutal, let's go nab a deego!" Dually noted, Em. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 When the hell are the Canadians, English, Aussies and Yankees gonna learn to speak English? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RegisteredAndEducated Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 When the hell are the Canadians, English, Aussies and Yankees gonna learn to speak English? agreed Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...
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