snafu Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 I think hugo keeps forgetting that it wasn't Palin that wrote Alaska's constitution and that she was only upholding it. Alaskan's voted for it. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
eddo Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Geeeez what critics. I'm sure if I had to speak in front of a whole nation I would flub up too. that's why you didn't get my vote... Quote I'm trusted by more women.
hugo Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 I think hugo keeps forgetting that it wasn't Palin that wrote Alaska's constitution and that she was only upholding it. Alaskan's voted for it. It was her that increased taxes so every Alaskan could get a welfare check. I don't like like Republican socialism either. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 It seems more and more clear that your only intent is to be a disruptive element to hurt conservatives and help Liberals. Yes, that is why I spend so much time on this board with 10 active members eight of which would never change their mind on anything> Do ya actually believe your own tripe? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 I think hugo keeps forgetting that it wasn't Palin that wrote Alaska's constitution and that she was only upholding it. Alaskan's voted for it. I don't know snaf, it is pretty well known that Sarah was just following State law, hugo may be radical but he is not stupid, no, the more I watch how hugo operates I am starting to see a pattern that he just wants to disrupt any discussion that goes against liberal beliefs, consider that hugo is always right there attacking law enforcement, defending abortion, and now he is even trying to derail a thread that proves Obama is at least as bad as Bush in speaking without a teleprompter............. Why Sarah Palin, and why now? Because that seems to always work to take attention away from Hugo's buddy Obama. Start paying attention to what hugo decided to get explosive about, more often than not it is him defending something the liberals hold dear or defend like Ron Paul, the liberals love Ron Paul, if they love him, that alone should make us all run away from him, but there is hugo, cuddled up in their world parroting their talking points against the hated Sarah Palin. Anyway, back on topic, being as Obama does not allow unrehersed exposures like Bush and Clinton did, that tells me he is scared of his ability to speak, unlike Bush and Clinton who were very comfortable with who they were and what they said, sure Bush knew he messed up sometimes but he did not let that reality cause him to shelter and protect himself from making mistakes like Obama does. Obama is the most self-protective and secretive President we have ever had in recent times. Quote
timesjoke Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 It was her that increased taxes so every Alaskan could get a welfare check. I don't like like Republican socialism either. So she passed the law making the oil the property of the people hugo? Or did she instead only enforce a law? Big, big difference hugo, but your not allowing for that difference, your just spouting whatever the Obama administration tells you to say. Quote
hugo Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 So she passed the law making the oil the property of the people hugo? Or did she instead only enforce a law? Big, big difference hugo, but your not allowing for that difference, your just spouting whatever the Obama administration tells you to say. She changed the law, try reading sometime. She ain't gonna screw ya TJ. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 She changed the law, try reading sometime. She ain't gonna screw ya TJ. She did not change the law hugo, she renegotiated the value of property belonging to the people based on State law, there is a huge difference and your being unwilling to admit that proves your just an Obama administration parrot. I have a wonderful girlfriend hugo, why would I want her to screw me? Wait a minute, that is on the Obama talking points as well, your ordered to tell any man who likes Sarah Palin that he just wants to have sex with her, good to see your following Obama's orders and talking points to the letter Hugo, I knew you had it in you, lol. Quote
hugo Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 She did not change the law hugo, she renegotiated the value of property belonging to the people based on State law, there is a huge difference and your being unwilling to admit that proves your just an Obama administration parrot. I have a wonderful girlfriend hugo, why would I want her to screw me? Wait a minute, that is on the Obama talking points as well, your ordered to tell any man who likes Sarah Palin that he just wants to have sex with her, good to see your following Obama's orders and talking points to the letter Hugo, I knew you had it in you, lol. She changed the law. Try reading sometime. It does a brain good. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
snafu Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 She changed the law, try reading sometime. She ain't gonna screw ya TJ. Boy we can go around and around on that one can't we. Changed the law? Hehe... ok Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
hugo Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Palin, 44, proposed the tax increase Sept. 4, 2007, and called a special legislative session to pass it. At an Oct. 12 community meeting in Anchorage, Try reading sometime. It does a brain good. Integrity, my ass. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
ToriAllen Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 OK, I can't believe I'm sticking up for Bush, but that's not fair. He'd been clean and sober (so I have heard) for many many years before running for office. . . I think I caused Hell to freeze over....YES!!!! Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
phreakwars Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 You keep talking about Sarah Palin being socialist but you can't offer one single thing she has ever done that was socialist, Went to Canada to use their socialist medical care because care in the US was too expensive. Has a daughter using welfare medical benefits for the illigitimate child by studboy. Quoted in"The New Yorker Magazine,"of having been able to send a check for $1,200 to every man, woman and child in the state since, "Alaska is sometimes described as America's socialist state, because of its collective ownership of resources� . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Went to Canada to use their socialist medical care because care in the US was too expensive. Has a daughter using welfare medical benefits for the illigitimate child by studboy. Quoted in"The New Yorker Magazine,"of having been able to send a check for $1,200 to every man, woman and child in the state since, "Alaska is sometimes described as America's socialist state, because of its collective ownership of resources� . . lol, so she created the socialist system in Canada.......created the welfare programs.......and created the laws in Alaska giving the people possession of the resources..........all by herself, right? Why is it you guys in one hand try to make her sound stupid while at the same time you give her credit for things she had nothing to do with? Even if Sarah or one of her kids accepted a "welfare" like assistence that does not mean she would create or support new laws that would increase welfare. Sarah was one person, the laws giving possession of the States resources to the people were in place long before she ever took office, Sarah had nothing to do with those laws. All Sarah did was follow existing laws, she did not create any new laws handing over the oil to the people, you guys are smarter than this so you must be only pretending to not know the difference. But what I do know is hugo is saying the things Obama and other radical Liberals love to hear. Why attack Sarah? She is not in office, she cannot create policy. But still Obama and company including hugo put massive amounts of time into attacking her, she must be a threat to them and their plans to generate this kind of attention. Here is a little hint for you hugo, if Sarah really was a socialist, Obama and company would not be making her their top priority to attack. She is a threat to them, not a friend, and your putting down the one person that scares them, why would anyone who claims to have conservative beliefs want to protect the liberals from their fear? As I keep pointing out, just about everything you hate is what the liberals hate, your like two peas in a pod getting along great. Quote
hugo Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Here is a little hint for you hugo, if Sarah really was a socialist, Obama and company would not be making her their top priority to attack. She is a threat to them, not a friend, and your putting down the one person that scares them, why would anyone who claims to have conservative beliefs want to protect the liberals from their fear? As I keep pointing out, just about everything you hate is what the liberals hate, your like two peas in a pod getting along great. She has basically been ignored by Obama. The media is doing it on their own. They do not like women and minority Republicans. There is nothing in Palin's background to give anyone any rational belief she is not a bigger socialist than GW Bush. We don't need another socialist Republican. We don't want one who loses 2012 either. She is a social conservative with strong appeal to only a small segment of the populace. She has no more chance of winning a general election than Ron Paul. There is a hell of a lot of difference between a Goldwater conservative and the social conservative that has taken over the Republican Party and ran this country into debt. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 He faked it so everyone would think he was just a "good ole' boy". Just like he fakes being a Texan. . . Just like Obama fakes being an American. <_< Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 She has basically been ignored by Obama. The media is doing it on their own. lol, right, just because he is not directly talking, that does not mean he is not behind it, the media does nothing on their own, the main Networks are completely in the bag for Obama, this thread is about how the media refuses to report on his many mistakes when they went out of their way to report on any single mistake by Bush thousands of times. You are also part of the Obama/Liberal manipulations hugo, they feed your circles with the very attacks you call your own against Sarah Palin, they are working from the inside of your groups maiing you an extension of their party. Libertarians have become a trojan horse, they divide so the Liberals can conquer. They do not like women and minority Republicans. In general true, but the way they deal with her is completely different than any other woman or conservative, why? Because she is a threat, they don't spend millions of dollars to go after someone they don't think can hurt them hugo. Quote
timesjoke Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 She is a social conservative with strong appeal to only a small segment of the populace Small? Almost all real and reasonable Conservatives love Sarah Palin, the only people who do not like her are liberals and radical groups like yours. Sarah Palin could easily win a Presidential bid against someone like Obama as long as the radicals like you don't poision the water. You guys cost us the last election, and you can do the same thing in the next election if you want to. She has no more chance of winning a general election than Ron Paul. Wow, just wow, current polls has her way, way above Ron Paul and she has not even declared she will run, Ron paul is the guy who only gets the support of radicals who want America to turn isolationist, everyone else would support Sarah. Hell, most Americans don't even know who Ron Paul is, sure they have heard the name but other than his claim that America is at fault for 9/11, I am sure few bothered to even look at anything else about him after that. I looked deeper just trying to be fair and that is when I uncovered his long set plan to turn America isolationist, then of course there was his newsletter with the racist stuff in it, Ron tried to claim he didn't know about it but the letter went out with his name on it, what idiot would not read every letter when it represents his name before letting it publish? There is a hell of a lot of difference between a Goldwater conservative and the social conservative that has taken over the Republican Party and ran this country into debt. In case you didn't notice, Barry Goldwater is not going to be running for office, neither is Ronald Regan, you need to wake up to the reality that we need to rebuild the conservative base and we do that not by embracing radicals who cannot win but by staying true to conservatives offing support and making more conservatives get involved. When a conservative sees the kind of vitriolic criticism you toss at good people, you turn them off, you turn them away, you hurt the cause you pretend to support. Quote
phreakwars Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 lol, right, just because he is not directly talking, that does not mean he is not behind it, Boy, you make about as much sense as that stupid bitch when she says "IF OBAMA COULD TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY HE WOULD" even though he has EXPANDED gun rights. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 lol, right, just because he is not directly talking, that does not mean he is not behind it, Boy, you make about as much sense as that stupid bitch when she says "IF OBAMA COULD TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY HE WOULD" even though he has EXPANDED gun rights. . . And if you don't think the leadership of the party is involved in the decisions of the party and it's extension with the media your the one who needs to get educated. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 even though he has EXPANDED gun rights. . . That's a pretty big misrepresentation. Quote
phreakwars Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 He DIDN'T sign a new law permitting guns in national parks? . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
ImWithStupid Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 He DIDN'T sign a new law permitting guns in national parks? . . Not intentionally. He signed a law reforming credit card companies, Republicans put the amendment in allowing guns in national parks, and after D.C. v. Heller, there isn't a legal basis not to allow guns in national parks. That's the only reason the amendment made it through. Quote
phreakwars Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Ya don't even wanna give the guy credit where credit is due. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 He DIDN'T sign a new law permitting guns in national parks? . . Okay, I am very hard on Obama in many ways, but I cannot be unfair. If you look at Obama's record he has two faces on this issue, Obama as a person wants severe gun control, you can see it directly in a few places but you can also read between the lines on a lot of what he says, for example we have this question asked of him: Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president? A: I don’t think that we can get that done. So Obama has been consistent in that while he may want severe gun control, he understands that doing something himself would not be a good idea and will avoid it. Obama has said many times he wants to go after illegal guns and I fully support that. Quote
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