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Don't know if anybody heard about the controversy over this dance recital. A bunch of kids little girls bumping and grinding on stage to Beyonce.

 

WTF? :blink:

 

No way in hell would I let my daughter even dress like that, and it would be a very very cold day in hell before I would let her dance like that at home, much less, in front of an audience.

 

What were the dance instructors and parents of these kids thinking?

 

What's next, Kindergärtners pole dancing to Nine Inch Nail's Closer?

 

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The parents and instructors should be shot.

 

That statement above was a bit rash. Let me amend it. First subjects them to these torture methods:

 

Physical torture methods

Abacination

Beatings and physical violence

Blinding with light

Boiling

Bone breaking

Branding

Castration

Chinese water torture

Choking/Strangling

Crushing

Cutting

Denailing

Disfigurement

Drowning

Dunking

Electric shock torture

Tooth extraction

Flagellation

Flaying

Foot roasting

Foot whipping

Force-feeding

Garrotting

Genital mutilation/forced circumcision

Glasgow smile

Hamstringing

Kneecapping

Keelhauling

Mutilation

Oxygen deprivation

Picquet

Pitchcapping

Pressure points

Rat torture

Riding the Rail

Sexual assault

Sawing

Scalping

Scaphism

Sleep deprivation

Sound (extremely high volumes, dynamic range, low frequency, high pitched noise, intended to interfere with rest, cognition and concentration).

Starvation

Strappado/squassation (also known as "reverse hanging" and "Palestinian hanging")

Stress positions

Ta'liq hanging from a metal bar.

Tarring and feathering

Tickle torture

Water cure

Waterboarding

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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The parents and instructors should be shot.

 

That statement above was a bit rash. Let me amend it. First subject them to these torture methods:

 

Physical torture methods

Abacination

Beatings and physical violence

Blinding with light

Boiling

Bone breaking

Branding

Castration

Chinese water torture

Choking/Strangling

Crushing

Cutting

Denailing

Disfigurement

Drowning

Dunking

Electric shock torture

Tooth extraction

Flagellation

Flaying

Foot roasting

Foot whipping

Force-feeding

Garrotting

Genital mutilation/forced circumcision

Glasgow smile

Hamstringing

Kneecapping

Keelhauling

Mutilation

Oxygen deprivation

Picquet

Pitchcapping

Pressure points

Rat torture

Riding the Rail

Sexual assault

Sawing

Scalping

Scaphism

Sleep deprivation

Sound (extremely high volumes, dynamic range, low frequency, high pitched noise, intended to interfere with rest, cognition and concentration).

Starvation

Strappado/squassation (also known as "reverse hanging" and "Palestinian hanging")

Stress positions

Ta'liq hanging from a metal bar.

Tarring and feathering

Tickle torture

Water cure

Waterboarding

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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The outfits were a little provocative but I think the girls were talented dancers. I saw nothing wrong and I don't even think whores could dance that good. Funny thing, I just went to my five year old granddaughters dance and tap dance recital last night. They did a fantastic job and it was very well orchestrated. She was in a performance doing the song "Your a grand old flag" and I was proud of her.

"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller

 

NEVER FORGOTTEN

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Elvis the dancing whore!

 

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1815255454288225230#

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Elvis Presley appeared three times on the famous Ed Sullivan Show. Moralists pressured Sullivan to keep Elvis's suggestive hip movements from being filmed, so Sullivan ordered Elvis to be filmed from the waist up only.

"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller

 

NEVER FORGOTTEN

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I'll bet some of them young gals get abortions in the future.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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The outfits were a little provocative but I think the girls were talented dancers. I saw nothing wrong

Pedophiles think that way.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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The outfits were a little provocative but I think the girls were talented dancers. I saw nothing wrong and I don't even think whores could dance that good. Funny thing, I just went to my five year old granddaughters dance and tap dance recital last night. They did a fantastic job and it was very well orchestrated. She was in a performance doing the song "Your a grand old flag" and I was proud of her.

I tend to agree with you. The outfits themselves did not need to be two-piece, but the dancing was not booty dance. My daughter is in ballet and has to wear a tutu and do dancing that includes leg extensions and such. Of course having been to an actual school 'parent night' at a school that is 99% black in which they had real booty dancing to really provocative songs maybe what is making that video look tame to me.

Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. ;)

 

I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.:rolleyes:

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Pedophiles think that way.

Yes, but they would normally cover it up by listing the million ways they want to torture and kill the parents and instructors...

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Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. ;)

 

I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.:rolleyes:

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Yes, but they would normally cover it up by listing the million ways they want to torture and kill the parents and instructors...

Normally they work for the government and have the hots for VP candidates. Adults encouraging seven year olds to behave like strippers is just plain wrong.

 

Let me quote

 

No way in hell would I let my daughter even dress like that, and it would be a very very cold day in hell before I would let her dance like that at home, much less, in front of an audience.

 

What were the dance instructors and parents of these kids thinking?

 

What's next, Kindergärtners pole dancing to Nine Inch Nail's Closer?

 

That is pretty much what any normal parent would say.

 

I will bet the instructors are communists.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Normally they work for the government and have the hots for VP candidates. Adults encouraging seven year olds to behave like strippers is just plain wrong.

 

I agree, but I don't think that rose to the level of strippers. It was certainly beyond where I would go in certain parts, like the dips, but for the most part it was ballet type dance, jazzed up. Not to say I wouldn't have changed a few things here and there, but it could be worse.

Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. ;)

 

I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.:rolleyes:

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I'll bet some of them young gals get abortions in the future.

 

 

With the laws the way they are that adolescents can get abortions without parental consent I would have to agree with you.

"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller

 

NEVER FORGOTTEN

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Pedophiles think that way.

 

Did you just try to say snaf was a pedo because he did not condemn this the way you did?

 

 

I agree that the outfits were very bad and should have been different but the overall dance was not much different than what you would see in a ballet as Tori pointed out, I also agree with Tori where she pointed out the most likely pedo is one who hides behind loud and excessive outrage proclaiming various tortures and attacks they would like to perform on the parents showing that kind of "zero tolerance" face to the public while their private life is much, much different..........

 

 

 

Yes, it could have used some changes though, I remember the Maddona inspired shows kids did many years ago, they were much worse than this.

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Did you just try to say snaf was a pedo because he did not condemn this the way you did?

 

 

I agree that the outfits were very bad and should have been different but the overall dance was not much different than what you would see in a ballet as Tori pointed out, I also agree with Tori where she pointed out the most likely pedo is one who hides behind loud and excessive outrage proclaiming various tortures and attacks they would like to perform on the parents showing that kind of "zero tolerance" face to the public while their private life is much, much different..........

 

 

 

Yes, it could have used some changes though, I remember the Maddona inspired shows kids did many years ago, they were much worse than this.

 

All I said was pedos think that way. That does not mean everyone who thinks that way is a pedo. You do not think this is whack off material for scumbags who deserve, if not torture, long prison sentences? This is mild kiddie porn. Kiddie porn is wrong, case closed.

 

It is all about responsibility. We live in a world where videos are available to everyone at the click of a mouse. Be responsible, don't allow your children to be the victims of pedophiles. It is tamer material than this that may have gotten Jon Benet killed.

 

Our "conservatives" here think government should force grown women to be properly informed but believe parents protecting their daughters from pedophiles is going too far.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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This is one of my favorite movie scenes. I laughed so hard I nearly peed myself. She just did one or two suggestive moves and even those were clumsy. The parents were shocked but in the end they ended up supporting her right to be there with all those other little girls fixed up to be a pedo's dream. At least she looked normal. Now for the single ladies dance. I'd have taken my daughter right off that stage. Like hugo said that is pedo whack off material. In their sick mind they are trying to be alluring. It's much different when beyonce does it. At least she knows what she's putting out there.

"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." -Goethe

 

Bigotry: Because everyone different from you deserves to be gutted with scrap metal.

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I agree with Snaf...I was impressed by the spins and thought they did a good job. I wasn't a huge fan of the lady marmelade outfits, but I thought it was pretty good. Also..if your daughter is in dance classes, then get used to the provocative outfits :p

 

Awww and ....I loved Little Miss Sunshine.

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I agree with Snaf...I was impressed by the spins and thought they did a good job. I wasn't a huge fan of the lady marmelade outfits, but I thought it was pretty good. Also..if your daughter is in dance classes, then get used to the provocative outfits :p

 

 

Lesbo pedos think that way.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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All I said was pedos think that way. That does not mean everyone who thinks that way is a pedo.

 

No, you as usual always try to demonize those who do not take the radical and 'knee-jerk' possitions you do. Your entitled to your opinions but you never believe other people are entitled to theirs so you try to "punnish" them.

 

You do not think this is whack off material for scumbags who deserve, if not torture, long prison sentences? This is mild kiddie porn. Kiddie porn is wrong, case closed.

 

No, in fact I do not think this would even be close to kiddie porn, my time working with the Guardian ad Litem has show me the difference and how easy it is for child molesters to get what they want, they do not need this kind of thing to feed their fantacies Hugo. Of course your over reaction to this might mean you already know exactly how easy it is to get that stuff don't you hugo?

 

 

It is all abour responsibility. We live in a world where videos are available to everyone at the click of a mouse. Be responsible, don't allow your children to be the victims of pedophiles.

 

Responsibility hugo? Your the guy who was preaching that the professor who screamed at cops should not be punnished right? That the adult should not be held responsible for his own actions because cops are an agent of the Government and deserve to be abused? You were also defending people from showing more responsibility tword their reproduction so obviously sometimes your okay with turning off responsibility.

 

 

Spinning our wheels on things that are not at that high of a level is taking time away from real harms hugo...is that your intent? Get people worried about a show like this and they don't have the time to go after the real filth that is out there? Misdirection hugo?

 

 

Real concerned parents and community minded people trying to protect children have gotten involved with things like "Jessica's Law" as we did here in Florida hugo, we pettition our law makers, we visit our capitals, we even work with other liked minded people in other States to get similar laws passed in other places I even worked with some people in your State of Texas on their law Hugo, I believe your state suppreme court shot down part of the law though......how much of that have you done hugo? We you involved in pushing for "Jessica's Law"?

 

 

 

 

Like Tori said, usually those being the most outlandish in their violent opposition on something is usally hiding something about themselves.

 

 

It is tamer material than this that may have gotten Jon Benet killed.

 

And tell me Hugo, what violent movie, sexual dance video, or video game inspired Hitler?

 

I agree that sick people will look for material to feed their sickness, but they were already sick to start with to even look for the material. The material does not transform a good person into a sick person hugo, while a sick person is not cured by not letting kids dance in stupid costumes. As I said before, sure this was not thought out very well, but it is not kiddie porn, your over reacting and I wonder why..........

 

 

 

Our "conservatives" here think government should force grown women to be properly informed but believe parents protecting their daughters from pedophiles is going too far.

While your advocating censorship hugo?

 

Why are you going off the deep end on this dance if not to make the case to block it and things like it hugo? How do you protect children from pedophiles by complaining about this dance hugo? Your not making any sense at all hugo. I can see complaining a little, but your long past showing concern and your running down the road to nuclear explosion over something that most pedophiles would not even notice hugo.

 

 

 

A "real conservative" knows feigned concern when we see it, and your showing it right now hugo.

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It is whack off material for pedophiles. That is obvious no matter what mr "experience" says. Good parents do not allow their children to be fodder for pedophiles. We can have responsibility without law enforcement, TJ. That is what you , a big government conservative, cannot understand. I do not think there should be laws governing every behavior I find wrong, unlike you, TJ. If you encourage your young daughters to bump and grind in two piece outfits I would have to reconsider your custodial rights.

 

Jon Benet may well be dead because her parents thought dressing their daughter like a whore was cute.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Some people say it isn't bad? What about some of those lil girls dipping and gyrating their hips like a sex act. That is just obscene for a kid.

As for hitler. They didn't have videos like we do but he sure had his methamphetamine. And we all know that sh t makes people crazy as hell. Hitler wasn't so much interested in females as far as I know as drugs and power.

"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." -Goethe

 

Bigotry: Because everyone different from you deserves to be gutted with scrap metal.

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Some people say it isn't bad? What about some of those lil girls dipping and gyrating their hips like a sex act. That is just obscene for a kid.

It is pretty obvious, ain't it. It is sad we have "conservatives" cheering on the slutilization of unaware seven year olds.

 

No way in hell would I let my daughter even dress like that, and it would be a very very cold day in hell before I would let her dance like that at home, much less, in front of an audience.

 

What were the dance instructors and parents of these kids thinking?

 

What's next, Kindergärtners pole dancing to Nine Inch Nail's Closer?

 

The words of a responsible parent.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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It is whack off material for pedophiles. That is obvious no matter what mr "experience" says. Good parents do not allow their children to be fodder for pedophiles. We can have responsibility without law enforcement, TJ. That is what you , a big government conservative, cannot understand. I do not think there should be laws governing every behavior I find wrong, unlike you, TJ. If you encourage your young daughters to bump and grind in two piece outfits I would have to reconsider your custodial rights.

 

Jon Benet may well be dead because her parents thought dressing their daughter like a whore was cute.

 

Spoken from "YOUR" experience hugo? You think it looks good to wack off to?

 

Now your questioning my parenting skills because I don't go off the deep end over somethiong this small? hugo I have represented children who were made "stars" of home porn movies by their own parents and they were selling those movies to hundreds of other people. If a Pedo wants kiddie porn, he can easily get it, they do not need to look at this dance video to get their jollies. I never said this was "good" just not to the level of kiddie porn as your trying to make it seem.

 

 

Why do you need to make such nasty and personal attacks on people if they do not agree with you hugo?

 

 

 

 

 

Some people say it isn't bad? What about some of those lil girls dipping and gyrating there hips like a sex act. That is just obscene for a kid.

 

Never said it wasn't bad, just not "AS BAD" as hugo is trying to paint it all things considered.

 

Have you ever been to a real ballet Ren? I thought the costumes were worse than the dancing on a sexual level but yes, I agree that a couple of the moves were also too much, the entire display was not something I would have approved of if my child was in that dance troop, but my point was that is was not porn as hugo keeps trying to paint it. As usual these discussion with hugo tend to be about the radical side. Most of us agree this was not good, we just have the ability to see that no everything is a capital offence.

 

 

As for hitler. They didn't have videos like we do but he sure had his methamphetamine. And we all know that sh t makes people crazy as hell. Hitler wasn't so much interested in females as far as I know as drugs and power.

 

I agree Ren, my point was that monsters have always existed, and a sane person is not going to turn a pedo just watching this dance video.....

 

 

 

 

I really do not understand hugo's reaction to this, unless he found himself thinking bad thoughts and is trying to blame the video for what he thought.......no way of knowing for sure.

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The only explanation I can find for TJ's acceptance of kiddie porn is he is a pedophile who molests his own children.

 

What a scumbag!

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The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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The only explanation I can find for TJ's acceptance of kiddie porn is he is a pedophile who molests his own children.

 

What a scumbag!

 

See?

 

What is the real justification for someone who would say such things? Hugo even attacked my mother right after he found out she had died.

 

 

I will steal from someone else for my reply to this horrible accusation from hugo.

 

 

"You are what you hate, that is why you hate it." You spend so much time accusing other people of being a pedophile and being all worked up over watching girls dance that there is a very high possibility that it is you who holds these beliefs and your trying to project your own sickness onto other people.

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