Bob is a racist

[Chi]

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

 

 

You're close. If you go one or two steps back, you would find somewhere, somehow, a woman is at fault.

 

negative rep!!

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

 

 

You're close. If you go one or two steps back, you would find somewhere, somehow, a woman is at fault.

 

negative rep!!

 

Well that canceled out my positive rep... damnit

[hugo]

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

 

 

You're close. If you go one or two steps back, you would find somewhere, somehow, a woman is at fault.

 

negative rep!!

 

 

 

Well that canceled out my positive rep... damnit

 

There's more men here than women.

[ImWithStupid]

I think an open border is an awesome idea!!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RWtW0AjO7M

[Anna Perenna]

 

The thing that really annoys me about this (bullshit) issue is that everyone who came over on the Mayflower was an illegal alien. Everyone "legal" living in America today, except for Native Indians, is a descendant of an 'illegal immigrant'.

 

Wasn't America an un-discovered wilderness found completely unoccupied Anna?

 

Then, to add to the bullshit, you have bigots in denial like TJ who live to spread negative 'facts' about illegal immigrants to justify their own selfishness and hatred, and to try to breed it in others. How very UN-CHRISTIAN of him.

 

 

Hmmm, I was thinking I was the only one feeling this way. Thank-you.

 

You're welcome - great to see you posting on the boards! Hope to see more from you xx

[ImWithStupid]

In Anna's defense, well I'll just roll the video that illustrates the extent of her knowledge of the situation that Arizona and the US is going through...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQp8M0bkarM

 

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/06/24/county-supervisor-who-supports-boycott-doesnt-know-arizona-borders-mexico/

[Anna Perenna]

Please delete IWS..

 

I agree. Let's delete IWS. He's done enough damage around here. Time for him to go.

 

Cloaked? Phreak? Let's make this happen.

 

Hear hear.

 

I mean, it's bad enough that we have Tim James haunting the boards under the pseudonym of 'TimesJoke'.

 

But must we also endure the online persona of Sheriff Joe Arpaio?

 

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[eddo]

Please delete IWS..

 

I agree. Let's delete IWS. He's done enough damage around here. Time for him to go.

 

Cloaked? Phreak? Let's make this happen.

 

Hear hear.

 

I mean, it's bad enough that we have Tim James haunting the boards under the pseudonym of 'TimesJoke'.

 

But must we also endure the online persona of Sheriff Joe Arpaio?

 

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you had me until Joe Arpaio comment..

 

I'm a big fan of Sheriff Joe.

 

Sheriff Joe can moderate my board anytime!

[hugo]

A bit of history:

 

Operation Wetback

In 1949 the Border Patrol seized nearly 280,000 illegal immigrants. By 1953, the numbers had grown to more than 865,000, and the U.S. government felt pressured to do something about the onslaught of immigration. What resulted was Operation Wetback, devised in 1954 under the supervision of new commissioner of the Immigration and Nationalization Service, Gen. Joseph Swing.

 

Swing oversaw the Border patrol, and organized state and local officials along with the police. The object of his intense border enforcement were "illegal aliens," but common practice of Operation Wetback focused on Mexicans in general. The police swarmed through Mexican American barrios throughout the southeastern states. Some Mexicans, fearful of the potential violence of this militarization, fled back south across the border. In 1954, the agents discovered over 1 million illegal immigrants.

 

In some cases, illegal immigrants were deported along with their American-born children, who were by law U.S. citizens. The agents used a wide brush in their criteria for interrogating potential aliens. They adopted the practice of stopping "Mexican-looking" citizens on the street and asking for identification. This practice incited and angered many U.S. citizens who were of Mexican American descent. Opponents in both the United States and Mexico complained of "police-state" methods, and Operation Wetback was abandoned.

[builder]

A bit of history:

 

Operation Wetback

Opponents in both the United States and Mexico complained of "police-state" methods, and Operation Wetback was abandoned.

 

Imagine today's gov using the term in any proposed operation, Hugo? LOL.

[hugo]

A bit of history:

 

Operation Wetback

Opponents in both the United States and Mexico complained of "police-state" methods, and Operation Wetback was abandoned.

 

Imagine today's gov using the term in any proposed operation, Hugo? LOL.

They were not real PC back then.

[builder]

 

They were not real PC back then.

 

But the general concept of the "wetback" remains?

[hugo]

 

They were not real PC back then.

 

But the general concept of the "wetback" remains?

 

While wetback is now considered an ethnic slur the disdain many Americans feel for hispanic illegals remains.

[builder]

 

 

While wetback is now considered an ethnic slur the disdain many Americans feel for hispanic illegals remains.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the border crossing issue is by no means new, and it's always been a two-way street, meaning if an American is fleeing the authorities, then it's a simple case of fleeing to Mehiko?

 

I recall movies from way back in the sixties depicting Americans heading to Mexico for a cheap paint job on the car, or a cheap head job from a whore.

 

The theme is recurrent in movies and sit-coms/serials; the hispanic gardener is screwing his employer's wife, or the rancher falls for his housekeeper, for example.

 

Has the "issue" suddenly exploded? Or has the build-up been gradual to the point where previous laissez-faire attitudes have evaporated?

[ImWithStupid]

While wetback is now considered an ethnic slur the disdain many Americans feel for hispanic illegals remains.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the border crossing issue is by no means new, and it's always been a two-way street, meaning if an American is fleeing the authorities, then it's a simple case of fleeing to Mehiko?

 

I recall movies from way back in the sixties depicting Americans heading to Mexico for a cheap paint job on the car, or a cheap head job from a whore.

 

The theme is recurrent in movies and sit-coms/serials; the hispanic gardener is screwing his employer's wife, or the rancher falls for his housekeeper, for example.

 

Has the "issue" suddenly exploded? Or has the build-up been gradual to the point where previous laissez-faire attitudes have evaporated?

 

Seriously? You're basing your knowledge of the border issue on old sitcoms and old Tom Cruise movies like "Losin' It".

 

Yes. The border issue is an even two way street. In the past there have been 20 million college kids and criminals running from the law that illegally crossed into Mexico to live and stay.

 

Like I said in another thread when you tried to bash TJ on comments about Australia, now you know how stupid you sound when commenting on US domestic and foreign policy, especially when nearly every comment or picture you post is about something that happened 5 to 10 years ago and is often something that is irrelevant because it was either factually incorrect when first brought up and still is, or has been proven incorrect over time.

[builder]

 

 

Seriously? You're basing your knowledge of the border issue on old sitcoms and old Tom Cruise movies like "Losin' It".

 

 

 

Never heard of it. The questions were directed to Hugo, but you seem to skim only what you want to read. Nothing unusual there.

 

Hope you enjoyed your "independence" day, Sitting Bull.

[ImWithStupid]

Seriously? You're basing your knowledge of the border issue on old sitcoms and old Tom Cruise movies like "Losin' It".

 

 

 

Never heard of it. The questions were directed to Hugo, but you seem to skim only what you want to read. Nothing unusual there.

 

Hope you enjoyed your "independence" day, Sitting Bull.

 

 

Talk about cherry picking parts of a topic.

 

Sitting Bull was Lakota Sioux.

 

My point was, yes. The issue has exploded. The majority of the estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens have crossed in the past 20 years when illegal immigration has far outpaced legal immigration.

[builder]

 

 

My point was, yes. The issue has exploded. The majority of the estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens have crossed in the past 20 years when illegal immigration has far outpaced legal immigration.

 

Twenty years? Obama has been in for two? And you blame him? That's my point.

[ImWithStupid]

My point was, yes. The issue has exploded. The majority of the estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens have crossed in the past 20 years when illegal immigration has far outpaced legal immigration.

 

Twenty years? Obama has been in for two? And you blame him? That's my point.

 

 

There you go, once again, misrepresenting me. I blame the federal government. I've blamed the last administration and the one before. The current one is just as bad, or maybe worse. Never heard of one of the past ones holding border security hostage, while it's citizens are being murdered by the drug runners and criminals on the border, just so he can try to give voting rights to millions of potential followers.

[builder]

 

 

 

There you go, once again, misrepresenting me. I blame the federal government. I've blamed the last administration and the one before. The current one is just as bad, or maybe worse. Never heard of one of the past ones holding border security hostage, while it's citizens are being murdered by the drug runners and criminals on the border, just so he can try to give voting rights to millions of potential followers.

 

How does an illegal alien get to vote?

 

I've been of the opinion that the issue is more to do with there being no "checks and balances" on donations to election campaign funds. Silly me.

[ImWithStupid]

There you go, once again, misrepresenting me. I blame the federal government. I've blamed the last administration and the one before. The current one is just as bad, or maybe worse. Never heard of one of the past ones holding border security hostage, while it's citizens are being murdered by the drug runners and criminals on the border, just so he can try to give voting rights to millions of potential followers.

 

How does an illegal alien get to vote?

 

I've been of the opinion that the issue is more to do with there being no "checks and balances" on donations to election campaign funds. Silly me.

 

By granting amnesty.

 

What are you talking about on election campaign funds?

[builder]

 

 

What are you talking about on election campaign funds?

 

Drug money is as good as any money when it comes to electioneering.

 

What kind of auditing/declaration is necessary on donations to electioneering funds for either party's candidates?

 

None is the information I can access.

[ImWithStupid]

What are you talking about on election campaign funds?

 

Drug money is as good as any money when it comes to electioneering.

 

What kind of auditing/declaration is necessary on donations to electioneering funds for either party's candidates?

 

None is the information I can access.

 

 

 

http://www.fec.gov/p...html#Disclosure

[builder]

 

 

Drug money is as good as any money when it comes to electioneering.

 

What kind of auditing/declaration is necessary on donations to electioneering funds for either party's candidates?

 

None is the information I can access.

 

 

 

http://www.fec.gov/p...html#Disclosure

 

heheheheheh. Two hundred dollars. That is funny.

 

 

How many candidates do you think would stick to the letter of the law, IWS?

[builder]

Interesting link here

 

 

January 31, 2010|By David G. Savage

 

Reporting from Washington — The most heated controversy over the recent Supreme Court ruling striking down parts of the nation's campaign-funding laws has focused on whether the decision frees foreign corporations to pour money into American elections.

 

President Obama raised this specter Wednesday in his State of the Union address, saying the ruling would "open the floodgates for special interests -- including foreign corporations -- to spend without limit in our elections."

 

A day later, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said the president was "completely wrong." He said that a separate law strictly prohibits foreigners and foreign corporations from "any participation in U.S. elections, just as they were prohibited before."

 

Election-law experts say neither claim is quite correct. Although foreign corporations cannot directly put money into U.S. races under the ruling, their U.S. subsidiaries may.

 

The 5-4 decision in Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission struck down on free-speech grounds the long-standing federal and state laws that barred corporations and unions from spending money to elect or defeat candidates for office. The decision applied to all corporations, both for-profit firms and nonprofits.

 

"It means a U.S. subsidiary of a foreign corporation can now spend freely in U.S. elections," said Tara Malloy, a lawyer with the Campaign Legal Center in Washington.

 

Among the multinational companies with lobbying operations in Washington are Swiss drug makers, German manufacturers, Japanese and Korean automakers and British aerospace firms. Under FEC rules, a U.S. subsidiary of a foreign company could spend money on congressional races, but only if the subsidiary earned the money in the U.S. and its American employees decided on how to spend it.

 

The regulation says: "A foreign national shall not direct, dictate, control, or directly or indirectly participate in the decision-making process" for spending money on campaigns.

 

But many question whether the FEC could police election-spending decisions by multinational firms.

 

"We have a dysfunctional system currently," said Washington attorney Trevor Potter, a former FEC chairman. The agency has been evenly divided, with three Republican and three Democratic appointees, and has been unable to make decisions."