Bob is a racist

[hugo]

The last time I argued with the wife I put a "Whites Only" sticker above the water dispenser on the fridge. She was not amused.

[hugo]

Hey TJ.. was it "legal" what "Americans" did to take away this country from those who lived here prior to Columbus "discovering" America? What makes it legal? Might = right?

 

They were annoying.

[wez]

The last time I argued with the wife I put a "Whites Only" sticker above the water dispenser on the fridge. She was not amused.

 

hahahahaha.. next time do it to the toilet too..

[wez]

They were annoying.

 

yeah.. stoopid idiots and their wholly sustainable way of life til the end of time deserved it..

[wez]

I think the great American draft dodging hypocrite John Wayne said it best.. Well.. second best to TJ of course..

I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves. ~ The Duke of Hypocrisy

We have people in Mexico who are poor and looking for a new life so they break into America illegally and take away from those who live here legally. ~ TJ, or else

I dunno TJ.. seems to me the Duke is calling you selfish and making a morally justified case for Mexicans to kill you.. go debate his corpse..

[ImWithStupid]

Isn't wez supposed to be in a tent on Mars?

[timesjoke]

 

 

What is, "unaccurate"?

Chi's word, not mine, I was asking her to explain but as usual, she never answers a question.

 

 

 

Wez, your funny dude, and as usual your posting just trying to pick a fight, I have learned you either don't understand things like a normal person or your just pretending not to understand just to again, pick fights, either way, trying to discuss anything with you is not really worth it.

 

In general I say yes, it was perfectly fine to take this land from the Indians, we can't be frozen into inaction by something like that, the Europeans were not moving into the Indian communities refusing to do their fair share to support themselves, they were self sufficient while the illegals are mostly on welfare and causing massive crime problems everywhere they gather, and again, most of the emergency room bills Obama was talking about is because of them, not Americans. The point is we are being invaded and the invaders are not even taking care of themselves, the money is gone, we no longer have the luxery of looking the other way. Decisions must be made and if some are too scared and timid to do what must be done, then at least step aside and stop being part of the problem with the stalling tactics like calling people racist.

 

 

 

You know Wez, I once asked you if you were so much against the use of force, would you call the police if someone had stolen from your home, you admitted you would call the police so clearly you are okay with the use of force as long as it is used for you and what you believe in, a true believer in it being wrong to use Government force would never believe using force is right, so in these discussions, your the one with issues, lol.

[eddo]

wow, you all took a trip to nonsenseville today, huh?

[timesjoke]

wow, you all took a trip to nonsenseville today, huh?

Gave us something to do

[builder]

 

Hey TJ.. was it "legal" what "Americans" did to take away this country from those who lived here prior to Columbus "discovering" America? What makes it legal? Might = right?

They didn't have a flag...

 

What a piss=poor excuse for a response that is Tori. They didn't have a flag???? Did they even know about flags? Jeezus lovaduck? Do you have any idea what it means to have a connection to the land your arse was born on?

[timesjoke]

What a piss=poor excuse for a response that is Tori. They didn't have a flag???? Did they even know about flags? Jeezus lovaduck? Do you have any idea what it means to have a connection to the land your arse was born on?

 

I think the real point is does it make any difference?

 

Should every scrap of land in the world that can show it was "once" owned by someone else not be able to be defended by it's current owner? Battles are fought and land is accuired or loss according to those battles, sure it is sometimes sad to accept it, but we should not be frozen into inactivity because of it.

[Chi]

This is old and so unaccurate, but I'm not even gonna waste my time arguing about dribble with hard headed people. Much like why I don't even bother arguing about the Arizona law. Hopefully people will see the err of their ways one day.

 

 

 

 

Why is it unaccurate or lame?

 

 

 

inaccurate. Sue me.

 

 

What is, "unaccurate"?

[Chi]

 

 

What is, "unaccurate"?

Chi's word, not mine, I was asking her to explain but as usual, she never answers a question.

 

 

 

Wez, your funny dude, and as usual your posting just trying to pick a fight, I have learned you either don't understand things like a normal person or your just pretending not to understand just to again, pick fights, either way, trying to discuss anything with you is not really worth it.

 

In general I say yes, it was perfectly fine to take this land from the Indians, we can't be frozen into inaction by something like that, the Europeans were not moving into the Indian communities refusing to do their fair share to support themselves, they were self sufficient while the illegals are mostly on welfare and causing massive crime problems everywhere they gather, and again, most of the emergency room bills Obama was talking about is because of them, not Americans. The point is we are being invaded and the invaders are not even taking care of themselves, the money is gone, we no longer have the luxery of looking the other way. Decisions must be made and if some are too scared and timid to do what must be done, then at least step aside and stop being part of the problem with the stalling tactics like calling people racist.

 

 

 

You know Wez, I once asked you if you were so much against the use of force, would you call the police if someone had stolen from your home, you admitted you would call the police so clearly you are okay with the use of force as long as it is used for you and what you believe in, a true believer in it being wrong to use Government force would never believe using force is right, so in these discussions, your the one with issues, lol.

 

TJ you're full of sh t. Most immigrants that come here work their asses off more than the average American. Illegals aren't even entitled to public benefits. I'll maybe give you that hospitals aren't supposed to turn anyone away even if they are unable to pay, but most immigrants are so afraid to even go to the doctor or hospital because of their status that they will suffer with whatever they have until it gets too serious or will pay cash if they can.

 

People that have a problem with immigrants do so because they are bigoted and are afraid of their numbers and prevalance, not because anyone is taking anything away from them.

[eddo]

ummm, not quite accurate Chi.

 

 

Illegal Immigrants cost the state of Arizona approx 2.7 billion dollars every year- linky -(not to mention the $69 billion it cost the country between 1970 and 1996 - linky #2 with that number ever increasing each year since then)

 

Illegals may not be entitled to public benefits, but at least here in Arizona- they most certainly receive them. Food stamps, public education, that education in Spanish (requiring more teachers,) health care, and other things.

 

Many cities in AZ are "sanctuary cities"- meaning no one ever gets asked about immigration status. ever. if you can prove you have an address, then all public benefits are available to you.

 

 

Our state is going broke (see California for an example of what that looks like) and Illegal Immigrants leeching off our of state resources without paying back into the system thru payroll taxes and property taxes is a big part of the problem.

[timesjoke]

 

So who told you that besides your mommy? You misspelled disagree, positions and use the word 'your' incorrectly quite often as already pointed out by Em.

 

 

 

 

 

 

inaccurate. Sue me.

 

The point is if you want to be the word and spelling police you need to not be making these kinds of stupid mistakes yourself Chi.

 

 

 

TJ you're full of sh t. Most immigrants that come here work their asses off more than the average American.

 

For every hard working illegal that is making under the table money (not paying taxes), there are three to four dependents who are not working such as the children who get free schools and free lunches, etc.

 

Illegals aren't even entitled to public benefits.

 

As eddo pointed out, while by law their not entitled, all of them still get it mostly because social workers tend to be very far left liberals/socialists anyway and will never ask for proof of citizenship before giving them welfare.

 

I'll maybe give you that hospitals aren't supposed to turn anyone away even if they are unable to pay, but most immigrants are so afraid to even go to the doctor or hospital because of their status that they will suffer with whatever they have until it gets too serious or will pay cash if they can.

 

You obviously never spent time around emergency rooms where illegals tend to live. Hospitals do not call immgration, they know they will get paid by the government anyway (hense Obama talking about taxpayers covering the cost) and as long as their making money no big deal, so no, illegals are not scared to go to the doctor.

 

 

People that have a problem with immigrants do so because they are bigoted and are afraid of their numbers and prevalance, not because anyone is taking anything away from them.

And that right there is 100% proof that the story I posted is accurate.

 

I have nothing against these people because of their race, I have something against their actions to invade America and steal either directly or indirectly from hard working Americans and legal immegrants. We are broke Chi. We have no more money and we have to figure out ways to save money, trillions of dollars can be saved every year if we deal with the illegals, it is a business decision, a practical decision, and even a logical decision.

 

 

 

Only the most radical of socialists try to make this a race issue because they have no other way of defending their true belief that America should not have a border or laws against illegally coming here to get welfare.

[Chi]

What a piss=poor excuse for a response that is Tori. They didn't have a flag???? Did they even know about flags? Jeezus lovaduck? Do you have any idea what it means to have a connection to the land your arse was born on?

 

I think the real point is does it make any difference?

 

Should every scrap of land in the world that can show it was "once" owned by someone else not be able to be defended by it's current owner? Battles are fought and land is accuired or loss according to those battles, sure it is sometimes sad to accept it, but we should not be frozen into inactivity because of it.

 

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

[wez]

 

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

 

But.. but.. might only = right when it's in TJ's favor.. don't you understand gods plan?

[timesjoke]

 

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

Well race has nothign to do with it, why is it you far liberals always have to insert things like race into a discussion to try and derail it?

 

I said before, if we were being invaded by white Canadians we would still have the exact same problem of running out of money to pay for them Chi. That is the one thing you guys will never admit to.

 

 

If you guys want to invade and take over, at least support yourself in the process instead of acting like a cancer and killing the host your invading.

[Chi]

 

Exactly. So minorities are taking over in numbers, so deal with it! We're taking our land back.

Well race has nothign to do with it, why is it you far liberals always have to insert things like race into a discussion to try and derail it?

 

I said before, if we were being invaded by white Canadians we would still have the exact same problem of running out of money to pay for them Chi. That is the one thing you guys will never admit to.

 

 

If you guys want to invade and take over, at least support yourself in the process instead of acting like a cancer and killing the host your invading.

 

TJ - Let's not act like race is never an issue, okay? And what is this you guys bullshit? 1.) I'm not illegal 2.) I've always worked and supported myself and mine. Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

[emkay64]

Well Chi...Hispanic is one strike, Liberal is two (Liberal equals anyone in disagreement of TJ and his troglodytic views). You "guys" are either one or the other. I bet you throw your empty water bottles on the street, break into homes and do jobs most Americans think are unworthy of their skills. You guys...tsk tsk.

[timesjoke]

TJ - Let's not act like race is never an issue, okay? And what is this you guys bullshit? 1.) I'm not illegal 2.) I've always worked and supported myself and mine. Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

You guys as in liberals (and others) who turn everything into race baiting to divert attention away from the "real" problem, I had no idea you were hispanic, although "Chi" now makes sense.

 

I never said race "was never" an issue, I said it was not an issue now or with the current inability to pay for the 12 million illegals currently in America. We have a massive problem, it needs to be dealt with, sticking your head in the sand and pretending to not see the problem just because you want to defend your fellow hispanics is not going to fix this problem Chi. Where is your first loyalty Chi?

 

America or Mexico?

 

If your an American than be concerned with an American issue, if your a Mexican first then be proud that your invasion is going well and your infiltration of our political system has been so successful so far.

[Chi]

Well Chi...Hispanic is one strike, Liberal is two (Liberal equals anyone in disagreement of TJ and his troglodytic views). You "guys" are either one or the other. I bet you throw your empty water bottles on the street, break into homes and do jobs most Americans think are unworthy of their skills. You guys...tsk tsk.

 

You nailed it. I think I'll go kick a puppy now too for good measure.

[timesjoke]

Well Chi...Hispanic is one strike, Liberal is two (Liberal equals anyone in disagreement of TJ and his troglodytic views). You "guys" are either one or the other. I bet you throw your empty water bottles on the street, break into homes and do jobs most Americans think are unworthy of their skills. You guys...tsk tsk.

 

You nailed it. I think I'll go kick a puppy now too for good measure.

No, you wouldn't want to bruise the meat before cooking it, ruins the taste even with BBQ sauce.

[emkay64]

Well Chi...Hispanic is one strike, Liberal is two (Liberal equals anyone in disagreement of TJ and his troglodytic views). You "guys" are either one or the other. I bet you throw your empty water bottles on the street, break into homes and do jobs most Americans think are unworthy of their skills. You guys...tsk tsk.

 

You nailed it. I think I'll go kick a puppy now too for good measure.

No, you wouldn't want to bruise the meat before cooking it, ruins the taste even with BBQ sauce.

 

oooh an attempt at humor....

 

.

[Chi]

TJ - Let's not act like race is never an issue, okay? And what is this you guys bullshit? 1.) I'm not illegal 2.) I've always worked and supported myself and mine. Are you automatically classifying me as "you guys" because I'm Hispanic? Gee, I thought race wasn't the issue - ??

You guys as in liberals (and others) who turn everything into race baiting to divert attention away from the "real" problem, I had no idea you were hispanic, although "Chi" now makes sense.

 

I never said race "was never" an issue, I said it was not an issue now or with the current inability to pay for the 12 million illegals currently in America. We have a massive problem, it needs to be dealt with, sticking your head in the sand and pretending to not see the problem just because you want to defend your fellow hispanics is not going to fix this problem Chi. Where is your first loyalty Chi?

 

America or Mexico?

 

If your an American than be concerned with an American issue, if your a Mexican first then be proud that your invasion is going well and your infiltration of our political system has been so successful so far.

 

Eh sure, whatever, TJ. And yes, I'm such a liberal! If you really must know, my loyalty is to what is right. When something is wrong or unfair, it doesn't stop being that way just because I'm legal or Hispanic, black, white or purple. People don't come to this country to cause trouble, piss people off or mooch off of others, they come here to work, survive and try to obtain a decent life like everyone else. If people can't see that and choose to treat their fellow man a certain way, then so be it. Justice will just have to come at a price like it has many times in the past.