Bob is a racist

[timesjoke]

Oh TJ..I'm wrong all the time. I'm cool with that. I'm just never going to like you is all.

But why get so emotional about things emkay?

 

Why can't we share our thoughts without you taking everything so deeply and personal that you have to get mad at me? We sometimes agree on things too, I guess I just don't understand the costic way a couple of you behave sometimes. I can easily see where you don't agree because I often do not agree with you, but I have never felt anger ofter readung a post you had made no matter how misguided or biased it obviously was.

[eddo]

Idk who was giving negatives on snaf and tj's posts... and you're entitled to your opinion... but those guys are right. nice feel good story hugs... but that doesn't make it right. illegal is still illegal.

Chi and emkay have been running around giving me negative rep on all my posts recently, I lost over a hundred rep points because the system let's them vote over and over again abusing the system.

 

I don't really care though, just another example of how you have to be politically correct or the liberals will try to punnish you any way they can.

 

 

Should we call you a waaaa-mbulance?

 

I negative rep you everytime I see you go off topic and start your crying/rehashing of old crap/throw your own pity party as an excuse to label everyone. Even if you add a good point to the end of it- you get the negative rep (of course, you aren't the only one I do this too, but I do find myself needing to do it to you more than anyone else.) I'm so tired of it all...

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Idk who was giving negatives on snaf and tj's posts... and you're entitled to your opinion... but those guys are right. nice feel good story hugs... but that doesn't make it right. illegal is still illegal.

Chi and emkay have been running around giving me negative rep on all my posts recently, I lost over a hundred rep points because the system let's them vote over and over again abusing the system.

 

I don't really care though, just another example of how you have to be politically correct or the liberals will try to punnish you any way they can.

 

 

Should we call you a waaaa-mbulance?

 

I negative rep you everytime I see you go off topic and start your crying/rehashing of old crap/throw your own pity party as an excuse to label everyone. Even if you add a good point to the end of it- you get the negative rep (of course, you aren't the only one I do this too, but I do find myself needing to do it to you more than anyone else.) I'm so tired of it all...

 

Yeah... I see where you're coming from. I do the same thing.

[eddo]

 

The economy is not the way it is because of illegals. It is the way it is because of the mismanagement and greed of corrupt politicians and corporate heads. Also because of this war. So let's not use a group of people as a scapegoat, which really is a minuscle cause of the greater picture and problem. Why not focus on the greater problem which really is and has caused the greatest effect?

 

And don't worry, the state of affairs and the economy is certainly driving a lot of these dirty unwanted illegals out of this country and away from your sight.

 

I don't blame the current state of the economy on illegals, but it is foolish to ignore the impact they are having- especially here in the southwest. California is bankrupt. Arizona is getting close. State agencies all over Arizona are being forced to make massive budget cuts to meet the state budget. Furlough days, pay cuts, layoffs, tax increases are all over the place. Will stopping illegal immigration fix all that? probably not- but it the root cause of a 2.7 billion dollar loss each year, and there are lots of places that money could be better spent.

 

as for the current economy driving illegals out? yeah, not happening, at least with many- because our crappy economy still affords them a much better life than what they have in Mexico, Cuba, or many other nations.

 

Focusing on other things to fix the economy is good, but ignoring illegal immigration would be a devastating move to our country. We simply cannot afford to pay for people here that are not putting back into the system. If we continue, it will destroy our country.

[timesjoke]

Idk who was giving negatives on snaf and tj's posts... and you're entitled to your opinion... but those guys are right. nice feel good story hugs... but that doesn't make it right. illegal is still illegal.

Chi and emkay have been running around giving me negative rep on all my posts recently, I lost over a hundred rep points because the system let's them vote over and over again abusing the system.

 

I don't really care though, just another example of how you have to be politically correct or the liberals will try to punnish you any way they can.

 

 

Should we call you a waaaa-mbulance?

 

I negative rep you everytime I see you go off topic and start your crying/rehashing of old crap/throw your own pity party as an excuse to label everyone. Even if you add a good point to the end of it- you get the negative rep (of course, you aren't the only one I do this too, but I do find myself needing to do it to you more than anyone else.) I'm so tired of it all...

There is nothign wrong with giving neg rep sometimes eddo, and I was not the one who brought it up in this thread, I was just agreeing with someone else that is was a tad silly to be so emotional that their spamming neg rep as "part" of their debating.

 

 

For example, what parts of my posts here was wrong eddo? You just agreed with all of my posts on this thread. I was not off topic or anything as your offering until someone else brought the rep point up, not me. Did you negative rep to that person? No, but you do me, because your just falling into the same gangbang mentality you have always fell into. You have never been outside of the gangbangs, and you never will.

[Chi]

 

The economy is not the way it is because of illegals. It is the way it is because of the mismanagement and greed of corrupt politicians and corporate heads. Also because of this war. So let's not use a group of people as a scapegoat, which really is a minuscle cause of the greater picture and problem. Why not focus on the greater problem which really is and has caused the greatest effect?

 

And don't worry, the state of affairs and the economy is certainly driving a lot of these dirty unwanted illegals out of this country and away from your sight.

 

I don't blame the current state of the economy on illegals, but it is foolish to ignore the impact they are having- especially here in the southwest. California is bankrupt. Arizona is getting close. State agencies all over Arizona are being forced to make massive budget cuts to meet the state budget. Furlough days, pay cuts, layoffs, tax increases are all over the place. Will stopping illegal immigration fix all that? probably not- but it the root cause of a 2.7 billion dollar loss each year, and there are lots of places that money could be better spent.

 

as for the current economy driving illegals out? yeah, not happening, at least with many- because our crappy economy still affords them a much better life than what they have in Mexico, Cuba, or many other nations.

 

Focusing on other things to fix the economy is good, but ignoring illegal immigration would be a devastating move to our country. We simply cannot afford to pay for people here that are not putting back into the system. If we continue, it will destroy our country.

 

I can agree with a lot of what you said.

[timesjoke]

 

The economy is not the way it is because of illegals. It is the way it is because of the mismanagement and greed of corrupt politicians and corporate heads. Also because of this war. So let's not use a group of people as a scapegoat, which really is a minuscle cause of the greater picture and problem. Why not focus on the greater problem which really is and has caused the greatest effect?

 

And don't worry, the state of affairs and the economy is certainly driving a lot of these dirty unwanted illegals out of this country and away from your sight.

 

I don't blame the current state of the economy on illegals, but it is foolish to ignore the impact they are having- especially here in the southwest. California is bankrupt. Arizona is getting close. State agencies all over Arizona are being forced to make massive budget cuts to meet the state budget. Furlough days, pay cuts, layoffs, tax increases are all over the place. Will stopping illegal immigration fix all that? probably not- but it the root cause of a 2.7 billion dollar loss each year, and there are lots of places that money could be better spent.

 

as for the current economy driving illegals out? yeah, not happening, at least with many- because our crappy economy still affords them a much better life than what they have in Mexico, Cuba, or many other nations.

 

Focusing on other things to fix the economy is good, but ignoring illegal immigration would be a devastating move to our country. We simply cannot afford to pay for people here that are not putting back into the system. If we continue, it will destroy our country.

 

I can agree with a lot of what you said.

Interesting that I said exactly what eddo said over and over and each time I said it, I was called a racist, but someone other than me parrots almost my exact same words and suddenly you agree?

 

Well the real thing that matters is you see the point being made, even if you were too closed off to get that point from me, lol.

[eddo]

There is nothign wrong with giving neg rep sometimes eddo, and I was not the one who brought it up in this thread, I was just agreeing with someone else that is was a tad silly to be so emotional that their spamming neg rep as "part" of their debating.

 

I didn't say you brought it up.

 

 

For example, what parts of my posts here was wrong eddo? You just agreed with all of my posts on this thread. I was not off topic or anything as your offering until someone else brought the rep point up, not me. Did you negative rep to that person? No, but you do me, because your just falling into the same gangbang mentality you have always fell into. You have never been outside of the gangbangs, and you never will.

This part of your reply style is what earns you negative rep from me. The "I'm a weepy vagina so look at me, look at me I'm being repressed" baloney that is older than the crust in my underwear...

 

For the record: I most certainly have negative repped others for doing this too. absolutely. but like I said- you get it more because you do it more.

 

if you want to believe different, go ahead. tis ok with me.

[timesjoke]

So I deserve a negative rep from you if I point out that I am being blamed for something I did not do?

 

Funny as hell eddo.

 

As I just poointed out, everything you just said I said first, nothing you mention is new from my posts but you get praise while I get negative rep and called a racist for the same exact words. That was my point and I did not even start complaining, I was just replying to what someone else brought up about the rep points.

 

As usual you never actually read what happened and you assume I was the one who started it because other people are jumping on me you just follow their lead not even knowing that what your assuming is wrong.

[ImWithStupid]

So I deserve a negative rep from you if I point out that I am being blamed for something I did not do?

 

Funny as hell eddo.

 

As I just poointed out, everything you just said I said first, nothing you mention is new from my posts but you get praise while I get negative rep and called a racist for the same exact words. That was my point and I did not even start complaining, I was just replying to what someone else brought up about the rep points.

 

As usual you never actually read what happened and you assume I was the one who started it because other people are jumping on me you just follow their lead not even knowing that what your assuming is wrong.

 

 

Whaaa! Waaa!

 

Chi isn't playing fair. Waaaaaa!

 

Maybe if you weren't such a whiny bitch people would take you seriously or at least give some credence to your postings.

[timesjoke]

So I deserve a negative rep from you if I point out that I am being blamed for something I did not do?

 

Funny as hell eddo.

 

As I just poointed out, everything you just said I said first, nothing you mention is new from my posts but you get praise while I get negative rep and called a racist for the same exact words. That was my point and I did not even start complaining, I was just replying to what someone else brought up about the rep points.

 

As usual you never actually read what happened and you assume I was the one who started it because other people are jumping on me you just follow their lead not even knowing that what your assuming is wrong.

 

 

Whaaa! Waaa!

 

Chi isn't playing fair. Waaaaaa!

 

Maybe if you weren't such a whiny bitch people would take you seriously or at least give some credence to your postings.

And you crying about my crying is better Joe?

[eddo]

So I deserve a negative rep from you if I point out that I am being blamed for something I did not do?

 

Funny as hell eddo.

 

no, you get the negative rep for acting like a whiny little girl.

 

As I just poointed out, everything you just said I said first, nothing you mention is new from my posts but you get praise while I get negative rep and called a racist for the same exact words. That was my point and I did not even start complaining, I was just replying to what someone else brought up about the rep points.

 

I said you have some good points, and on the issue of illegal immigration, you and I pretty much agree. The problem, once again, is you acting like a whiny little girl. Once I see you take that tone, I don't read what you wrote and you get the negative rep from me. I have no idea why anyone else gives you negative or positive rep. Ya know, I have given you positive rep too. some of your posts show no rep because I offset some others negative rep. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

As usual you never actually read what happened and you assume I was the one who started it because other people are jumping on me you just follow their lead not even knowing that what your assuming is wrong.

I never said you started the rep talk. You do, however, keep acting like a whiny little girl.

[timesjoke]

So if someone says I did something I did not do, just accept it as real because if I speak out against it, you will negative rep me for daring to speak out to defend myself?

 

Then again, your always on the side of those making the false attacks so I guess I see why you would say that, I mean when your attacking someone they should just take it like a man right?

[eddo]

So if someone says I did something I did not do, just accept it as real because if I speak out against it, you will negative rep me for daring to speak out to defend myself?

 

Then again, your always on the side of those making the false attacks so I guess I see why you would say that, I mean when your attacking someone they should just take it like a man right?

most of us are smart enough to read and comprehend who did and did not start what. Just because someone said something on here does not make it real. (just like your slam at me "always being on the side of the false attacks- people know me enough to know the truth, no matter what you say it is.)

 

Feel free to defend yourself. But acting like a whiny little girl will earn you negative rep from me. Saying things like "You're just a liberal and all Liberals act like that" is an example of this. saying things like "You're just picking on me" is another one. rehashing arguments from years ago is another.

 

and derailing an entire thread to talk about your rep is exactly what a whiny little girl would do.

[timesjoke]

So if someone says I did something I did not do, just accept it as real because if I speak out against it, you will negative rep me for daring to speak out to defend myself?

 

Then again, your always on the side of those making the false attacks so I guess I see why you would say that, I mean when your attacking someone they should just take it like a man right?

most of us are smart enough to read and comprehend who did and did not start what. Just because someone said something on here does not make it real. (just like your slam at me "always being on the side of the false attacks- people know me enough to know the truth, no matter what you say it is.)

 

Derailing an entire thread to talk about your rep is exactly what a whiny little girl would do.

But I did not do that, someone else mentioned the rep eddo, see what I mean? I get blamed for stuff I did not even do, all I did was reply to it, then I have everyone all gangbanging me attacking me when it was not me who started it.

[eddo]

So if someone says I did something I did not do, just accept it as real because if I speak out against it, you will negative rep me for daring to speak out to defend myself?

 

Then again, your always on the side of those making the false attacks so I guess I see why you would say that, I mean when your attacking someone they should just take it like a man right?

most of us are smart enough to read and comprehend who did and did not start what. Just because someone said something on here does not make it real. (just like your slam at me "always being on the side of the false attacks- people know me enough to know the truth, no matter what you say it is.)

 

Derailing an entire thread to talk about your rep is exactly what a whiny little girl would do.

But I did not do that, someone else mentioned the rep eddo, see what I mean? I get blamed for stuff I did not even do, all I did was reply to it, then I have everyone all gangbanging me attacking me when it was not me who started it.

 

again, I am fully aware that you did not start the rep talk. but you are the one that acted like a whiny little girl about it and kept it going til now that is all we are talking about. You are the one that attacked Em and Chi for "running around and negative repping all of my posts" when you really have no idea who is bad repping you, positive repping you, or just screaming cuss words at their computers because of your douchery.

 

You did it in the Clarance Thomas thread too- now the thread is all about you and the apology you got but won't accept. you are an attention whore, just like a whiny little girl...

[RegisteredAndEducated]

So I deserve a negative rep from you if I point out that I am being blamed for something I did not do?

 

Funny as hell eddo.

 

no, you get the negative rep for acting like a whiny little girl.

 

As I just poointed out, everything you just said I said first, nothing you mention is new from my posts but you get praise while I get negative rep and called a racist for the same exact words. That was my point and I did not even start complaining, I was just replying to what someone else brought up about the rep points.

 

I said you have some good points, and on the issue of illegal immigration, you and I pretty much agree. The problem, once again, is you acting like a whiny little girl. Once I see you take that tone, I don't read what you wrote and you get the negative rep from me. I have no idea why anyone else gives you negative or positive rep. Ya know, I have given you positive rep too. some of your posts show no rep because I offset some others negative rep. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

As usual you never actually read what happened and you assume I was the one who started it because other people are jumping on me you just follow their lead not even knowing that what your assuming is wrong.

I never said you started the rep talk. You do, however, keep acting like a whiny little girl.

 

That's pretty much what I was thinking.

[timesjoke]

 

again, I am fully aware that you did not start the rep talk. but you are the one that acted like a whiny little girl about it and kept it going til now that is all we are talking about. You are the one that attacked Em and Chi for "running around and negative repping all of my posts" when you really have no idea who is bad repping you, positive repping you, or just screaming cuss words at their computers because of your douchery.

 

You did it in the Clarance Thomas thread too- now the thread is all about you and the apology you got but won't accept. you are an attention whore, just like a whiny little girl...

I saw most of the negative reps happen and I saw who was the only ones logged on at the time, so yes, I did know who gave me the negative rep, and you could have asked me how I knew how did it, but you did not ask, you "assumed" I could not possibly know and ran with your insults based on that assumption and the general desire to keep the gangbangs going.

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry everyone, once again I get sucked into their game of insults and I don't ever seem to learn that this is exactly what they want.

 

I am done, I hate that this happens.

[Chi]

 

again, I am fully aware that you did not start the rep talk. but you are the one that acted like a whiny little girl about it and kept it going til now that is all we are talking about. You are the one that attacked Em and Chi for "running around and negative repping all of my posts" when you really have no idea who is bad repping you, positive repping you, or just screaming cuss words at their computers because of your douchery.

 

You did it in the Clarance Thomas thread too- now the thread is all about you and the apology you got but won't accept. you are an attention whore, just like a whiny little girl...

I saw most of the negative reps happen and I saw who was the only ones logged on at the time, so yes, I did know who gave me the negative rep, and you could have asked me how I knew how did it, but you did not ask, you "assumed" I could not possibly know and ran with your insults based on that assumption and the general desire to keep the gangbangs going.

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry everyone, once again I get sucked into their game of insults and I don't ever seem to learn that this is exactly what they want.

 

I am done, I hate that this happens.

 

Well you have yourself to thank. If you would just drop things when you should, accept that not everyone thinks like you do, take things like a man and not a victim or a whiny baby, people wouldn't get so annoyed by you. Funny how everyone else manages to get along most of the time even though we all have our own views...

[timesjoke]

Well you have yourself to thank. If you would just drop things when you should, accept that not everyone thinks like you do, take things like a man and not a victim or a whiny baby, people wouldn't get so annoyed by you. Funny how everyone else manages to get along most of the time even though we all have our own views...

 

Chi, you see this is frustrating for me to a certain degree because you all have a double standard:

 

This will also be my last post. You all know where I stand on this issue and I know where you stand so let's leave it at that. Arguing about it is not going to make either of us change our minds, just probably make us cling to our beliefs even more.

 

 

Right there you said you would not post again, if you can't drop something after you said you were dropping it, why come down on me for what you believe is my inability to drop something?

 

 

I fully admit I love to debate until the cows come home but........I don't take anything any of you say so personal I try to e-kill you for it, that is the biggest difference between my posting and those of you who get personal and crazy in your attacks on me. Remember how you attacked my spelling then you made your own spelling mistakes?

 

 

The only reason I ever mention any of this is the double standard.

[timesjoke]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/03/justice-dept-challenges-arizona-immigration-law-targeting-employers/?test=latestnews

 

The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overturn an appeals court decision that upheld Arizona's right to punish employers for hiring illegal immigrants.

 

The Arizona law gives the state the right to suspend or terminate business licenses.

 

"If you hire a person in this country illegally knowingly, you'll lose your license. First offense, 10 days. Second offense, revocation, never to do business in the state of Arizona again," said Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Republican who helped draft the new controversial Arizona law that cracks down on illegal immigrants.

 

The Obama administration apparently worries letting that law stand would leave in place a precedent that states have a legitimate role in enforcing immigration laws – a notion the administration fiercely opposes.

 

"The argument that the Justice Department is making here, is you know, the fundamental question, which is where does state authority begin and end when it comes to federal immigration law?" said Benjamin Johnson, executive director of the American Immigration Council.

 

The Arizona statue relies on a law passed by the U.S. Congress in 1986, which made clear federal law preempts the states on immigration – but left one exception: "The provisions of this section preempt any state or local law imposing civil or criminal sanctions (other than through licensing and similar laws) upon those who employ unauthorized aliens."

 

"Congress said very clearly that licensing and similar laws can be used to impose consequences on employers who hire unauthorized aliens at the state level," said Kris Kobach, a law professor at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. "And that's exactly what Arizona did."

 

Oddly enough, the law in question was signed in 2007 by then-Gov. Janet Napolitano, now Obama's Homeland Security secretary.

 

Not only that, but the law was upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

 

"And bear in mind that 9th Circuit is generally regarded as one of the more liberal circuits in the United States – and so the Obama administration, evidently, believes that the 9th Circuit views on this question is too conservative for this administration," Kobach said.

 

And this is yet another issue in the ongoing tug of war between Washington and the states, especially Arizona.

 

"The idea that states can't be involved in immigration law in any way is wrong," Johnson said. "The states have always had a role to play in immigration enforcement. The tricky part is defining where that authority begins and ends."

 

 

 

Even Chi said going after the employers is an important step but Obama is also against that idea.

 

I have no problem with the Federal Government stepping up and saying "this is our job" as long as they do their job, but if the Federal Government intentionally turns their backs on the illegal problem, then 'someone' has to act.

[snafu]

http://www.foxnews.c...test=latestnews

 

The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overturn an appeals court decision that upheld Arizona's right to punish employers for hiring illegal immigrants.

 

The Arizona law gives the state the right to suspend or terminate business licenses.

 

"If you hire a person in this country illegally knowingly, you'll lose your license. First offense, 10 days. Second offense, revocation, never to do business in the state of Arizona again," said Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Republican who helped draft the new controversial Arizona law that cracks down on illegal immigrants.

 

The Obama administration apparently worries letting that law stand would leave in place a precedent that states have a legitimate role in enforcing immigration laws – a notion the administration fiercely opposes.

 

"The argument that the Justice Department is making here, is you know, the fundamental question, which is where does state authority begin and end when it comes to federal immigration law?" said Benjamin Johnson, executive director of the American Immigration Council.

 

The Arizona statue relies on a law passed by the U.S. Congress in 1986, which made clear federal law preempts the states on immigration – but left one exception: "The provisions of this section preempt any state or local law imposing civil or criminal sanctions (other than through licensing and similar laws) upon those who employ unauthorized aliens."

 

"Congress said very clearly that licensing and similar laws can be used to impose consequences on employers who hire unauthorized aliens at the state level," said Kris Kobach, a law professor at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. "And that's exactly what Arizona did."

 

Oddly enough, the law in question was signed in 2007 by then-Gov. Janet Napolitano, now Obama's Homeland Security secretary.

 

Not only that, but the law was upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

 

"And bear in mind that 9th Circuit is generally regarded as one of the more liberal circuits in the United States – and so the Obama administration, evidently, believes that the 9th Circuit views on this question is too conservative for this administration," Kobach said.

 

And this is yet another issue in the ongoing tug of war between Washington and the states, especially Arizona.

 

"The idea that states can't be involved in immigration law in any way is wrong," Johnson said. "The states have always had a role to play in immigration enforcement. The tricky part is defining where that authority begins and ends."

 

 

 

Even Chi said going after the employers is an important step but Obama is also against that idea.

 

I have no problem with the Federal Government stepping up and saying "this is our job" as long as they do their job, but if the Federal Government intentionally turns their backs on the illegal problem, then 'someone' has to act.

 

Now why would Obama be against this other than being a stanch liberal. This is what I'm talking about when I call him the enemy from within. Anything to f sh t up!

[hugo]

 

Now why would Obama be against this other than being a stanch liberal. This is what I'm talking about when I call him the enemy from within. Anything to f sh t up!

Probably because he is a smart politician who knows the Republican Party has enough racists (such as TJ) that he can hook the label on the party.

[timesjoke]

 

Now why would Obama be against this other than being a stanch liberal. This is what I'm talking about when I call him the enemy from within. Anything to f sh t up!

Probably because he is a smart politician who knows the Republican Party has enough racists (such as TJ) that he can hook the label on the party.

Another great example of how people like Hugo are actually helping Liberals, not fighting against them. Hugo joins in the concept that I must be a racist if I don't want the illegals to stay.

 

Hugo as usual is using all the liberal talking points.

 

 

 

 

Obama like all liberals don't want the border secured and they certainly do not want to lose the votes sending the illegals home would represent. But it goes deeper, Obama has demonstrated that he believes American rights and benefits should extend to everyone in the world, even terrorists captured on foreign soil should get free lawyers and all the comforts an American committing a regular crime in Ohio would receive.

[hugo]

Once you have stated, as TJ has, that biracial children should never be born you will be classified as a racist. It is sad his brand of racism still exists in 2010.

 

It was not the liberals that destroyed federalism it was Lester Maddox and George Wallace (TJs heroes) claiming the states had the right to treat blacks as second class citizens.

 

I'll bet Tami's white.