Bob is a racist

[timesjoke]

 

And not only that, but the "illegal aliens" who are being targeted now ironically are or are descendants of those Native Indians who were here first. If anything, everyone else should go back to their country. We are in our country. If you want to play that game (not you, but those with TJ's thinking.)

So all white people are decendents of Europeans and are entitled to a "free ride" with free money and housing without earning it because someone in our heritage was most likely from Europe?

 

 

 

This has nothing to do with any one specific race, it is about the fact that we are out of money and it would not matter if the Mexicans were replaced with white Canadians who were invading America, I would still be against it.

 

 

 

I have been all for a guest workers program where if someone from another Nation has a job lined up and can take care of themselves I woiuld gladly welcome them into America and accept their fair share of taxes. My problem is not about race, it is about taxpayer money being spent on those who cannot support themselves, it is about the crime they cause, and it is about the drugs they smuggle into America and the harms those drugs cause.

[hugo]

I am 100% white, a good part English, and we got the right to be here because we kicked the Injuns' ass. we kicked the Spaniards' ass, bought out the French and kicked the Mexicans' ass.

[Chi]

I am 100% white, a good part English, and we got the right to be here because we kicked the Injuns' ass. we kicked the Spaniards' ass, bought out the French and kicked the Mexicans' ass.

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

[RegisteredAndEducated]

There is next to nobody in the US who has an ultra-hard stance on immigration.

 

There is a broad and majority opinion against "illegal immigration" or more appropriately, "illegal aliens".

 

Almost all those for tougher stance on immigration are for a better, expanded way to immigrate legally or expanded alien worker programs.

 

What about Sheriff Joe Arpaio and all the redneck freaks who think he's great?

 

The thing that really annoys me about this (bullshit) issue is that everyone who came over on the Mayflower was an illegal alien. Everyone "legal" living in America today, except for Native Indians, is a descendant of an 'illegal immigrant'.

 

Then, to add to the bullshit, you have bigots in denial like TJ who live to spread negative 'facts' about illegal immigrants to justify their own selfishness and hatred, and to try to breed it in others. How very UN-CHRISTIAN of him.

 

And TJ wonders why I can't stand him.

 

And not only that, but the "illegal aliens" who are being targeted now ironically are or are descendants of those Native Indians who were here first. If anything, everyone else should go back to their country. We are in our country. If you want to play that game (not you, but those with TJ's thinking.)

 

No. Most are descendants of Mexico/Central American native populations. Not from here. I'm 1/8th Cheyenne. I have more claim than any Guatemalan to this area. At least my people's land is incorporated in the borders of the US.

 

 

I'm with you. My grandfather's grandmother on my dad's side was full blooded Cherokee. And My grandfather's grandmother on my mother's side was full blooded Cherokee... So I'm pretty sure I have more claim to the land than some mexican who's ancestor who came over from spain or originated in central or south America...

[Chi]

There is next to nobody in the US who has an ultra-hard stance on immigration.

 

There is a broad and majority opinion against "illegal immigration" or more appropriately, "illegal aliens".

 

Almost all those for tougher stance on immigration are for a better, expanded way to immigrate legally or expanded alien worker programs.

 

What about Sheriff Joe Arpaio and all the redneck freaks who think he's great?

 

The thing that really annoys me about this (bullshit) issue is that everyone who came over on the Mayflower was an illegal alien. Everyone "legal" living in America today, except for Native Indians, is a descendant of an 'illegal immigrant'.

 

Then, to add to the bullshit, you have bigots in denial like TJ who live to spread negative 'facts' about illegal immigrants to justify their own selfishness and hatred, and to try to breed it in others. How very UN-CHRISTIAN of him.

 

And TJ wonders why I can't stand him.

 

And not only that, but the "illegal aliens" who are being targeted now ironically are or are descendants of those Native Indians who were here first. If anything, everyone else should go back to their country. We are in our country. If you want to play that game (not you, but those with TJ's thinking.)

 

No. Most are descendants of Mexico/Central American native populations. Not from here. I'm 1/8th Cheyenne. I have more claim than any Guatemalan to this area. At least my people's land is incorporated in the borders of the US.

 

 

I'm with you. My grandfather's grandmother on my dad's side was full blooded Cherokee. And My grandfather's grandmother on my mother's side was full blooded Cherokee... So I'm pretty sure I have more claim to the land than some mexican who's ancestor who came over from spain or originated in central or south America...

 

See my last response to IWS, also my last response to Hugo. It's all good:)

[ImWithStupid]

 

But they are from at least this continent. What about the Natives in the lands that used to belong to Mexico? - California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona (more irony), New Mexico, Texas, parts of Colorado, Kansas and Wyoming. Over 55% of the land that used to belong to Mexico. A lot of those Mexican people stayed in those lands and their descendants are still there.

 

 

So, by your logic, I guess that makes me French because before the Louisiana purchase, the Cheyenne tribal lands were in French claimed lands.

[timesjoke]

 

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

I would not care as much if "you hispanics" would just support yourselves in the process and not leech your existence off the American taxpayer.

 

 

At least when us Europeans took over this land we supported ourselves during the process.

[wez]

I'm 1/10000th T Rex .. great great great great etc. grandmammy had a traveling "donkey show" in what is now Montana.. I trump all you squatters.. get the F ck out.. thanks.

[hugo]

I am 100% white, a good part English, and we got the right to be here because we kicked the Injuns' ass. we kicked the Spaniards' ass, bought out the French and kicked the Mexicans' ass.

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

 

The kid pretends he is Mexican. Still don't know why we bought out the French. Their asses' would have been the easiest to kick.

 

TJ ain't gonna be happy when he has to dial two for English.

[hugo]

I'm 1/10000th T Rex .. great great great great etc. grandmammy had a traveling "donkey show" in what is now Montana.. I trump all you squatters.. get the F ck out.. thanks.

Anything less than 1/32nd don't count.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I am 100% white, a good part English, and we got the right to be here because we kicked the Injuns' ass. we kicked the Spaniards' ass, bought out the French and kicked the Mexicans' ass.

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

 

That's all well and good... You just don't cry when we start enforcing our laws and kicking illegals out. And take back OUR lands with whatever we need to.

[Chi]

 

But they are from at least this continent. What about the Natives in the lands that used to belong to Mexico? - California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona (more irony), New Mexico, Texas, parts of Colorado, Kansas and Wyoming. Over 55% of the land that used to belong to Mexico. A lot of those Mexican people stayed in those lands and their descendants are still there.

 

 

So, by your logic, I guess that makes me French because before the Louisiana purchase, the Cheyenne tribal lands were in French claimed lands.

 

No. Come on now, be logical. Don't go all TJ on me now. We were talking about Native Indian/American ancestors. And that's it, lands and peoples on THIS continent, who were here first (as far as we know.) Including your Cheyenne, RaE's Cherokee, mine whatever, etc.

[Chi]

 

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

I would not care as much if "you hispanics" would just support yourselves in the process and not leech your existence off the American taxpayer.

 

 

At least when us Europeans took over this land we supported ourselves during the process.

 

And you wonder why you're labeled a racist (and not just by me.) Anywho, not all Hispanics are leeches, just like not all whites are racist. TJ, newsflash, there are a ton of whites on welfare who also shouldn't be on it, cheating the system! Then as immigrants and now.

[Chi]

I am 100% white, a good part English, and we got the right to be here because we kicked the Injuns' ass. we kicked the Spaniards' ass, bought out the French and kicked the Mexicans' ass.

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

 

The kid pretends he is Mexican. Still don't know why we bought out the French. Their asses' would have been the easiest to kick.

 

TJ ain't gonna be happy when he has to dial two for English.

 

So now I'm a HE??lol

[Chi]

I am 100% white, a good part English, and we got the right to be here because we kicked the Injuns' ass. we kicked the Spaniards' ass, bought out the French and kicked the Mexicans' ass.

 

That's good and dandy. Just don't cry when we take back our land in numbers:)

 

That's all well and good... You just don't cry when we start enforcing our laws and kicking illegals out. And take back OUR lands with whatever we need to.

 

Cool. We'll all get to see what the outcome is eventually.

[wez]

hahahaha.. this is getting ridiculous..

 

The problem is not where people came/come from.. the problem is with our delusions of "money".. Fact is.. the Earth has resources and capabilities that support human life.. "Money" does not increase this capacity and never will.. matter of fact, it encourages us to waste and hoard them in fun and exciting ways to create the illusion that our lives somehow have more value then someone else's.

 

Money, as we know it and use it, has served it's purpose.. it's now become a detriment to our species.. Hard work and labor is no longer a valued commodity.. the capacity for people to be self sufficient has been taken away on nearly every square inch of the planet.. civilized society my ass.. No one wants to "leech off the government".. cept the high society folk that make the rules of the land for everyone but themselves and run around Washington DC thinking their sh t doesn't stink.

 

The biggest "welfare leeches" wear $2000 suits and ride in the back of limo's.. and are typically white males. Open the eyes..

 

yeah yeah.. we "need" money, right? How else would we be able to judge a persons worth as a human being? It no longer matters how one obtains it.. it only matters that you have it or you don't.. what a sad, pathetic existence we've created for ourselves.

[Chi]

hahahaha.. this is getting ridiculous..

 

The problem is not where people came/come from.. the problem is with our delusions of "money".. Fact is.. the Earth has resources and capabilities that support human life.. "Money" does not increase this capacity and never will.. matter of fact, it encourages us to waste and hoard them in fun and exciting ways to create the illusion that our lives somehow have more value then someone else's.

 

Money, as we know it and use it, has served it's purpose.. it's now become a detriment to our species.. Hard work and labor is no longer a valued commodity.. the capacity for people to be self sufficient has been taken away on nearly every square inch of the planet.. civilized society my ass.. No one wants to "leech off the government".. cept the high society folk that make the rules of the land for everyone but themselves and run around Washington DC thinking their sh t doesn't stink.

 

The biggest "welfare leeches" wear $2000 suits and ride in the back of limo's.. and are typically white males. Open the eyes..

 

yeah yeah.. we "need" money, right? How else would we be able to judge a persons worth as a human being? It no longer matters how one obtains it.. it only matters that you have it or you don't.. what a sad, pathetic existence we've created for ourselves.

 

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

[wez]

People are insane..

[timesjoke]

And you wonder why you're labeled a racist (and not just by me.) Anywho, not all Hispanics are leeches, just like not all whites are racist. TJ, newsflash, there are a ton of whites on welfare who also shouldn't be on it, cheating the system! Then as immigrants and now.

People like you label me and everyone else a racist for one reason, to block an honest discussion based on the facts.

 

Look at what you just did, I never said all Hispanics are leeches, you just lied Chi, those are your words inserted into my mouth so you can then have an excuse to claim I am a racist.

 

I also never said whites were not on welfare, only you are talking about race, my possition has nothing to do with race, I am talking about illegal immigrants, why is it you can't talk about that group?

 

 

 

 

Greed?

 

Are not the illegals taking what they did not earn? Do they 'deserve' to take a better life by force? At least the actions done by the businessman is supporting the American system and he pays taxes to help pay for the services like schools that the illegals are taking by force.

 

 

The illegal is nothing more than a thief.

[wez]

 

I'm with you. My grandfather's grandmother on my dad's side was full blooded Cherokee. And My grandfather's grandmother on my mother's side was full blooded Cherokee... So I'm pretty sure I have more claim to the land than some mexican who's ancestor who came over from spain or originated in central or south America...

 

Appears your only claim to fame is getting your ass kicked according to Hugo.. you should just be thankful his ancestors allowed yours to live to birth your sorry kicked ass.. now get to work.. you got bills to pay.. no welfare leeching off your employer.. I don't think he/she pays/owns you to sit around and post on BS..

[eddo]

Please delete IWS..

 

 

I agree. Let's delete IWS. He's done enough damage around here. Time for him to go.

 

Cloaked? Phreak? Let's make this happen.

[timesjoke]

hahahaha.. this is getting ridiculous..

 

The problem is not where people came/come from.. the problem is with our delusions of "money".. Fact is.. the Earth has resources and capabilities that support human life.. "Money" does not increase this capacity and never will.. matter of fact, it encourages us to waste and hoard them in fun and exciting ways to create the illusion that our lives somehow have more value then someone else's.

 

Money, as we know it and use it, has served it's purpose.. it's now become a detriment to our species.. Hard work and labor is no longer a valued commodity.. the capacity for people to be self sufficient has been taken away on nearly every square inch of the planet.. civilized society my ass.. No one wants to "leech off the government".. cept the high society folk that make the rules of the land for everyone but themselves and run around Washington DC thinking their sh t doesn't stink.

 

The biggest "welfare leeches" wear $2000 suits and ride in the back of limo's.. and are typically white males. Open the eyes..

 

yeah yeah.. we "need" money, right? How else would we be able to judge a persons worth as a human being? It no longer matters how one obtains it.. it only matters that you have it or you don't.. what a sad, pathetic existence we've created for ourselves.

You kno Wez, that was a pretty good post and not so nasty so I will comment.

 

 

Sure, the "Utopia" idea seems good in theory where we all just get what we "need" and everyone shares equally but the problem is, life is not a math equasion where everyone divides evenly on all levels of work/reward.

 

Some people work harder than other people, some people put more energy into their education than other people (notice I did not say smarter, my possition is we almost all have the same potential to learn, just some choose not to) and use their education to better benefit them.

 

 

I have a question for you Wez, if all humans got whatever they wanted without working, would they work anyway? In other words, if you got free electricity, free food, free television, free internet and there was no requirement to ever lift your finger to survive, would you go out and work just as hard as if you had to earn your living? I doubt many would work even close to the same degree so there is your measiring stick and why some people get more than other people, they "earn" it Wez.

 

 

That is the biggest flaw in your point, you ignore the fact that some people are lazy, and even those who are not lazy still have some who are more energetic and outgoing than other people and will still make more money and be more successful.

 

 

 

This concept works on all levels, not just business Wez, consider a basketball player like Jordan, he practiced playing his game almost constantly, from a young child to a young adult almost all of his spare time was spent working on his skills in the game, and as a result, he became one of the richest men in America, not because he took his success from someone else but because he earned it with more hard work than the next guy.

 

 

I've failed over and over and over again in my life and that is why I succeed. ~ Michael Jordan

 

 

Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. ~ Abraham Lincoln

[ImWithStupid]

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

 

 

You're close. If you go one or two steps back, you would find somewhere, somehow, a woman is at fault.

[hugo]

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

 

 

You're close. If you go one or two steps back, you would find somewhere, somehow, a woman is at fault.

In the modern era sometimes it is a gay male.

[timesjoke]

Totally left field, but totally agree. Think about it, when you really think about it you can trace most every problem to money, greed and selfishness.

 

 

You're close. If you go one or two steps back, you would find somewhere, somehow, a woman is at fault.

In the modern era sometimes it is a gay male.

Would that be the gay male playing the male role or the gay male playing the female role?