ImWithStupid Posted July 11, 2010 Posted July 11, 2010 Thought Police at University of Illinois – Urbana: Free Speech Dead…Man Bites Dog Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, July 10, 2010, 11:49 PM Posted by Guest Blogger John Burns– The University of Illinois has finally come out of the closet, formally and openly declaring war on the Freedom of Speech on their campus. Exposing this bare policy to the world, apparently no one is safe – not even professors. Ken Howell, a professor of Catholicism and Modern Catholic Thought was explaining the positions of the Catholic Church regarding homosexuality. In an email to students meant to assist them with their exam preparations for the course, Howell reiterated the Church’s stance on homosexuality. Howell then, as he has on numerous occasions, explained that his personal moral views are aligned with the Catholic Church. In an episode reminiscent of Stalinistic purges or Mao’s Cultural Revolution, Students complained to the administration, citing “hate speech.” The admins defended their assault on speech: “The e-mails sent by Dr. Howell violate university standards of inclusivity, which would then entitle us to have him discontinue his teaching arrangement with us.” So, the university politburo rewards the “political commissars” of the classroom, and persecutes our modern day Thomas More. Welcome to 1984. Of course, the irony here is the constantly disingenuous, pathetic overtures socialist progressives make to free speech and rigorous debate. One cannot escape college without hearing about the Catholic Church’s assault on Copernicus’ and Galileo’s notion of a heliocentric universe. “This,” as they love to pontificate, “is the perfect example of how religion kills the free association of ideas, roots out free thinking, and persecutes unfavored points of view. With religion, dogmatism and sacred cows stampede rationality.” Well, the anti-religion crowd has nonetheless cultivated dogmatism and sacred cows of their own. Socialist pundits will dismiss this, arguing that anti-Tyranny students often try to get their profs fired. The difference, of course, is that in this instance the professor was not making assimilation of his ideas a prerequisite for passing the course. Offering up your ideas, and forcing students to internalize them are two different things…Socialist professors being guilty of the latter, and with high frequency. The list of cases where anti-Tyranny students have been punished and persecuted by socialist professors and administrators is endless. There is no such thing as free speech on college campuses for those who disagree with the socialist progressive agenda. I know a large number of former and current students who have been persecuted – in some instances even to the point of being expelled or beaten by shock troops pet university security personnel. See here for an overview of how US Colleges are bastions of socialism and persecution for anyone who disagrees. See here for a typical example of professors actually indoctrinating US college students through intimidation and force. http://gatewaypundit...6man-bites-dog/ http://www.foxnews.c...tholic-beliefs/ 1 Quote
hugo Posted July 11, 2010 Posted July 11, 2010 This is so common that the outrage factor is about nil. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
phreakwars Posted July 11, 2010 Posted July 11, 2010 According to Faux News, looks like he was fired for saying this: The University of Illinois has fired an adjunct professor who taught courses on Catholicism after a student accused the instructor of engaging in hate speech by saying he agrees with the church's teaching that homosexual sex is immoral. The professor, Ken Howell of Champaign, said his firing violates his academic freedom. He also lost his job at an on-campus Catholic center. Howell, who taught Introduction to Catholicism and Modern Catholic Thought, says he was fired at the end of the spring semester after sending an e-mail explaining some Catholic beliefs to his students preparing for an exam. "Natural Moral Law says that Morality must be a response to REALITY," he wrote in the e-mail. "In other words, sexual acts are only appropriate for people who are complementary, not the same." http://www.foxnews.c...tholic-beliefs/ And of course, the bloggers on the links IWS posted had to go crying that free speech is getting impeded. Is it? Maybe, possibly... but then, one has to wonder, is that free speech, or hate speech? Either way, the blogger INSINUATES this is all the "SECULAR (SOCIALIST, MARXIST, INSERT LAME GLENN BECK TYPE NAME CALLING WORDS HERE) PROGRESSIVES" fault.... say what? Highly doubtful. Progressives would still stick up for the guy even if they didn't like the content of his speech, and want him to expand on it in discussion and debate. But anyways... here is the E-mail the professor sent out to students: http://www.news-gaze...instructor.html And here is the subsequent complaint letter from the students, that got him fired. http://www.news-gaze...instructor.html Keep in mind, the letter was... FROM THE STUDENTS. And LAST... The story is from FAUX NEWS, so for certain.. details are jumbled up and rehashed to make them more conservative friendly. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
Old Salt Posted July 11, 2010 Posted July 11, 2010 In my mind, HATE speech is: Being queer is sinful. All queers should be taken out and strung up. In my mind, DISCUSSION is: Being gay (or homosexual) is not right. I do not agree with their lifestyle. To be able to exercise your freedom of speech, you have to be able to say the second. It invites discussion wherein both parties can express their opinions without fear of repurcussions. But that's just my opinion. Quote
hugo Posted July 11, 2010 Posted July 11, 2010 He is teaching a course on Catholoicism. Yes, the teachings of the Catholic Church is homosexuality violates natural moral law. Other natural law philosophies disagree. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
timesjoke Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 There is no hate speach in that email, the problem with the majority of progressives and socialists is that they must eliminate religion at all costs because it competes with "THEIR GOD" the Government. They believe the Government should be worshiped, not God, why? Because they can control the Government. Quote
hugo Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 From the student complaint letter: I have Cc'd Leslie Morrow, director of the LGBT Resource Center, on this e-mail as well as (name redacted), former features editor at the Daily Illini (I'm sure they'd like to hear about this), and Siobhan Somerville, a former teacher of mine and the founder of the queer studies major. What kind of job opportunities do queer studies majors have? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
phreakwars Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 There is no hate speach in that email, the problem with the majority of progressives and socialists is that they must eliminate religion at all costs because it competes with "THEIR GOD" the Government. They believe the Government should be worshiped, not God, why? Because they can control the Government. That's a pretty lame analogy.. how about maybe... just maybe... people reject the idea of a hateful God who casts out homosexuals, and it has nothing to do with one's political views. Perhaps the blogger, much like you, had to go and put a "progressives and socialists" spin on it to comfort themselves away from reality. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 There is no hate speach in that email, the problem with the majority of progressives and socialists is that they must eliminate religion at all costs because it competes with "THEIR GOD" the Government. They believe the Government should be worshiped, not God, why? Because they can control the Government. That's a pretty lame analogy.. how about maybe... just maybe... people reject the idea of a hateful God who casts out homosexuals, and it has nothing to do with one's political views. Perhaps the blogger, much like you, had to go and put a "progressives and socialists" spin on it to comfort themselves away from reality. . . Are you a parent Bender? If your child did something you told them was wrong and you punished them for their action, did you act out of hate? I just love how people like you believe God holding people accountable for their actions must be because God is hateful. Back on topic, what was said was not driven by hate, it was a statement based on this person's understanding of faith and how the Bible teaches. You guys act like you want everyone of faith to rewrite the Bible to accomidate what "you" think we should have in there. Hate speach is what you and your fellow atheists toss at those of us who practice our faith, you call us names, put us down, and do everything in your power to block our ability to believe how we choose. And it was a great analogy, you guys only worship yourselves and the Government who in your opinion can "fix" your life, and the lives of everyone in the world if we just get people to abandon their self reliance and independence. You look for your answers from Government, we look for our answers from our faith, your just as stuck on faith in Government as any religious person may be. 1 Quote
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