black mamba, damiana, k2, should it be legal?

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Almost without exception, my positions are about responsibility. To me, once you have children of your own, it is time to stop acting immature yourself and conduct yourself considering the needs of your children first.

 

Just so I'm clear... According to your text in red... Since you've had kids, you've never done anything irresponsible or possibly dangerous? You haven't had an alcoholic beverage since your kid/kids were born? You haven't driven on the highway since then or, God forbid, driven them on the highway?

 

And before you go and blow this up and make it a personal attack in some way... I'm only doing to you what you are doing to phreak. I'm asking you how you could be so irresponsible as to not think of your kids first, whether they were there or not.

 

Think about what you say. You're not perfect. Nobody is. And you're not a moral authority, I don't care how high and mighty you think you are. So bump yourself back down to the same level as everyone else and get off your high horse. It's really why you can't seem to get along with anyone else.

 

Apples and hand grenades.

 

 

This is nothing like the point I made with Bender.

 

 

Bender admitted to taking a known recreational drug with no medical studies to show how safe/unsafe it may be and even admitted that there were no ingredients included with the blended substance and put himself at risk anyway.

 

 

Your right, nobody is perfect but there are degrees of irresponsibility, some place you at great risk, others only slight risk. You seem to be missing the point that life is shades of gray, not black and white. Driving on the highway is not even in the same bracket as using drugs when considering irresponsibility and potential harm.

 

 

 

 

But to answer your question as best I can, I have never operated a motor vehicle after drinking in my life, not one time. One of my greatest fears in life is to cause an innocent death and impaired driving is one of the most common ways to do so. I don't know why you think driving on a road is dangerous, do you have any idea how many people drive on roads without incident? Seems to me like your just desperately trying to find fault where there is no fault.

 

 

 

 

Look, I know you and most other people here are always looking for any excuse to attack me but this was way, way childish to try and defend what Bender did and call it responsible comparable to driving on a road. You can't possibly make that comparison and claim it is honest.

 

No, after becoming a parent I have never placed my life on "CHANCE" the way Bender just did.

 

Not one time.

 

Apples to hand grenades my ass... It's exactly the same thing.

 

More people died last year from driving on the highway than taking "black mamba". So when you got out to drive this morning (or whenever the last time you were on a highway) you were putting yourself at a higher risk than Phreakwars was by taking the recommended dose of a legal substance. I wasn't being childish. I was being facetious. That's very different. But I was mainly trying to prove a point.

 

I will post this statement again... "Think about what you say. You're not perfect. Nobody is. And you're not a moral authority, I don't care how high and mighty you think you are. So bump yourself back down to the same level as everyone else and get off your high horse. It's really why you can't seem to get along with anyone else." I think this is the part you need to see the most out of my entire comment.

 

p.s. I fixed all of your spelling errors. Use Firefox to help you with that. If you are using it and it's not telling you that words are wrong, right click and put a check by "check spelling"

[timesjoke]

How many people used the roads compared to how many used the drug? Do you even know what drug kills an addict when they are usually on so many at the same time? The number of people who are hurt driving is almost invisible comapred to the number who drive on the roads, you can't mention one without the other unless your being dishonest Rae.

 

 

Illegal recreational drugs serve no useful purpose to society while roads do, in fact, without roads you would not even get your drugs delivered, lol. While there "may be" a tiny danger to driving, at least the use of roads are not inherently childish and stupid while all recreational drug use is inherently childish and proves the person doing it has never matured to an adult no matter what their age on a calender may be.

 

 

So you honestly believe someone handing you a substance and you taking it without knowing what is in that substance is exactly the same degree of possible harm as driving on a road? I gurantee you that I know a lot more about the possible harms of driving than Bender knew about the possible ingredients in that concoction he exposed himself to and his only reason to expose himself to that danger was to get stoned.

 

 

To get stoned.

 

 

Really? I use the roads to get my kids to school, to go shopping, to take a vacation, none of those things are irresponsible but getting stoned is the very definition of irresponsibility especially when you consider that he knew nothing about the unknown ingredients and just said to hell with it and took the stuff anyway.

 

 

 

Your just once again desperately trying to bring me down to your level of irresponsibility and childish attitudes instead of being man enough to admit that doing drugs to get stoned is a pretty stupid thing to do. What is wrong RaE? You a stoner? You need to defend drug use to satisfy your own irresponsibility?

 

 

 

You guys react so poorly because you know I am right, but you try to justify your bad behaviors, you try to make it "sound not so bad". Well if you have to jump through those hoops, you already admit I am right. Why waste your time trying to bring me down?

[hugo]

Alcohol is a recreational drug used responsibly by tens of millions of Americans.

[mercury]

It's also legal and used irresponsibly by millions every day.

[phreakwars]

You guys react so poorly because you know I am right, but you try to justify your bad behaviors, you try to make it "sound not so bad". Well if you have to jump through those hoops, you already admit I am right. Why waste your time trying to bring me down?

 

Tried some new stuff I got in the mail today.

 

http://emeraldspice.net/

 

This is the stuff alot of the guys in the military use.

 

How did I hear about it? Reading the reviews of a bunch of military guys.

 

Figured, if I'm gonna believe an HONEST OPINION OF IT, WHO more to trust then military personnel.

 

Man, were they right, This Emerald spice is way better then the localized LEGAL black mamba that I tried the other day.

 

I LOVE LEGAL HERBS!!

 

The Military guys can't be wrong, and damn am I susceptible to influence.

 

Thanks to my US military service men for recommending a GREAT brand of VERY LEGAL K2 to try.

 

God bless our troops.

 

Got high as shit off of http://emeraldspice.net/ I highly recommend this VERY LEGAL site.

 

Since this is the second time I have used k2, I guess I am an addict now.

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[phreakwars]

A responsible person would have given the mother of his children help instead of divorcing her.

For better or for worse, a classic tradition no longer followed in our modern day "LIBERAL" society. Yet the very essence of a CONSERVATIVE lifestyle.

 

Tis' a shame indeed.

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[timesjoke]

Your a liberal Bender, you don't trust anyone in the military, stop pretending, lol.

 

 

You already admitted to not knowing what was in the substance you ingested so you were willing to take what I consider a great chance for the sole purpose of getting stoned? To me, that is placing a great deal of trust in whoever created the combination. Is putting that level of trust in a strnger who deals in drugs really reasonable to recreational drug users?

 

 

 

 

As far as the attacks on me concerning being divorced, I keep asking you guys what you think I should have done? Should I tie them up and force them to stay? Force someone else to do what they don't want to do? Really? This is once again a glaring example of how none of you can debate anything without turning to personal attacks. If you really felt good about yourself and what you have done you would not feel the need to try and bring me down to your level.

 

 

You hide reality and truth behind your agressive and constant attacks:

 

“The idea that truth always triumphs over persecution is one of those pleasant falsehoods, which most experience refutes. History is teeming with instances of truth put down by persecution. If not put down forever, it may be set back for centuries.” ~ not put down forever, it may be set back for centuries.”

John Stuart Mill

[RegisteredAndEducated]

How many people used the roads compared to how many used the drug? Do you even know what drug kills an addict when they are usually on so many at the same time? The number of people who are hurt driving is almost invisible compared to the number who drive on the roads, you can't mention one without the other unless your being dishonest Rae.

 

Yes I can. Who said you make the rules? I can mention what I want when I want to. And you can't do _shit about it. So _fuck you buddy.

 

 

Illegal recreational drugs serve no useful purpose to society while roads do, in fact, without roads you would not even get your drugs delivered, lol. While there "may be" a tiny danger to driving, at least the use of roads are not inherently childish and stupid while all recreational drug use is inherently childish and proves the person doing it has never matured to an adult no matter what their age on a calender may be.

 

You must be a really short guy... Like 4'3" or something... Cause the point keeps going over your head.

 

 

So you honestly believe someone handing you a substance and you taking it without knowing what is in that substance is exactly the same degree of possible harm as driving on a road? I guarantee you that I know a lot more about the possible harms of driving than Bender knew about the possible ingredients in that concoction he exposed himself to and his only reason to expose himself to that danger was to get stoned.

 

 

To get stoned.

 

 

Really? I use the roads to get my kids to school, to go shopping, to take a vacation, none of those things are irresponsible but getting stoned is the very definition of irresponsibility especially when you consider that he knew nothing about the unknown ingredients and just said to hell with it and took the stuff anyway.

 

I didn't realize you were phreak's mother. I did realize however that you plead for the nanny state. On one hand you reject "liberalism" and on the other hand you beg for the government to seize more and more government control. You've made this argument about one little statement, that was only made to show you that you're not an authority. the debate is about should this be legal, not how dangerous it is (without proof).

 

 

Your just once again desperately trying to bring me down to your level of irresponsibility and childish attitudes instead of being man enough to admit that doing drugs to get stoned is a pretty stupid thing to do. What is wrong RaE? You a stoner? You need to defend drug use to satisfy your own irresponsibility?

 

I am absolutely not a stoner. What difference would that make? None.. I've smoked pot a total of 4 or 5 times in my life.. It just wasn't for me. I couldn't get into it. I was a cigarette smoker. I used to be a really heavy drinker on the weekends. Then I turned 21 and that dropped off alot. lol. Nowadays, I might have a drink once a month, maybe. But I'm not sure that this all qualifies me to be a stoner. lol. Are you a dumbass? I really shouldn't ask loaded questions, huh?

 

 

You guys react so poorly because you know I am right, but you try to justify your bad behaviors, you try to make it "sound not so bad". Well if you have to jump through those hoops, you already admit I am right. Why waste your time trying to bring me down?

 

Nobody reacted poorly. If you think I did, again _fuck you and what you think. Nobody admitted that you were right. In fact, you are wrong, and I believe that's the consensus on this post. You are nobody. Your opinions mean less than nothing... And I'm just about done arguing with you. I've NEVER used the ignore button before, not even with wez... but you are seconds away guy. And that's sad.

 

Nobody wants to bring you down... We just don't want to be shouted at from your high and mighty pedestal that you've got yourself on.

 

 

 

 

Your a liberal Bender, you don't trust anyone in the military, stop pretending, lol.

 

Stop judging. You're a "republican conservative" who is a nanny statist. IMHO that's worse.

 

 

You already admitted to not knowing what was in the substance you ingested so you were willing to take what I consider a great chance for the sole purpose of getting stoned? To me, that is placing a great deal of trust in whoever created the combination. Is putting that level of trust in a strnger who deals in drugs really reasonable to recreational drug users?

 

 

 

As far as the attacks on me concerning being divorced, I keep asking you guys what you think I should have done? Should I tie them up and force them to stay? Force someone else to do what they don't want to do? Really? This is once again a glaring example of how none of you can debate anything without turning to personal attacks. If you really felt good about yourself and what you have done you would not feel the need to try and bring me down to your level.

 

We would have preferred you to not try to be a moral authority when you obviously have several short comings yourself. Grow up some, guy.

 

 

You hide reality and truth behind your agressive and constant attacks:

 

“The idea that truth always triumphs over persecution is one of those pleasant falsehoods, which most experience refutes. History is teeming with instances of truth put down by persecution. If not put down forever, it may be set back for centuries.” ~ not put down forever, it may be set back for centuries.”

John Stuart Mill

 

Don't you start quoting things about truth. You can tell 100 truths and 1 lie and it still makes you a liar, and a hypocrite. So enjoy that.

[phreakwars]

Your a liberal Bender, you don't trust anyone in the military, stop pretending, lol.

Your forgetting... us liberals respect the troops, we want the commanders shot... remember?

 

But anyways, the whole point of my last post was to point out that military soldiers abound are using k2.

 

Emerald Spice incense is very popular for military guys.

 

The website even flaunts and brags a bit about it's notoriety for getting servicemen with it's little "WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS" line they added in.

 

And I'm not talking about a couple here and there, I'm talking about thousands of troops in every branch of the military.

 

They use it because they are subject to random piss tests all the time.

 

I guess by your reasoning, all the troops in the military who are using it, are irresponsible and childish...also risking their lives... I guess the troops need to grow up too huh?

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[hugo]

Never heard of anyone dying from smoking incense. Many deaths from elective cosmetic surgury.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=4520099

[emkay64]

Never heard of anyone dying from smoking incense. Many deaths from elective cosmetic surgury.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=4520099

 

Like boob jobs?