The real progressive mind revealed.

[wez]

So I have a direct question for you Wez, let's see if you can answer it.

 

If every high ranking Progressive who had access to the intel available all agree and openly say that Iraq had Weapons of mass destruction before Bush ever took office, why is it a "Bush lie" if he says exactly what they said before him?

As a professional nurse I am responsible for all staff working under my delegation. A LPN med error is a wez med error. A Rumsfeld and Cheney lie is a Bush lie.

 

Progressives before he ever took office? Really? Why? Were we planning on invading Iraq before 9/11 ever happened because we were still flexing his Daddy's muscle from the first gulf war after we supplied him with WMD the decade before while he was vice Prez under Reagan?

 

Why is it other progressives like Nancy Pelosi how has her own access to the reports outside of what Bush does agrees with what Bush and Bill clinton said and agreed that the evidence clearly showed these things, again, how does that make what Bush said a lie?

Cuz she's a self serving bitch who would also lie to advance her own agenda's?

 

How does her lying make Bush's lies less of a lie? Fancy Nancy didn't have the authority to declare war, Bush did.

 

There is the biggest problem with almost every arguement you progressives make, your hold a clear and well defined double standard, Bill Clinton says there are WMD's and right or wrong, you will never say one word against him, but Bush says the exact same thing and suddenly everyone wants to claim he lied.

Bill Clinton never declared war on Iraq based upon lies and I'm not a "you progressive", moron.

 

The only way Bush could have lied is if everyone else to include the Prince of Progressives Al Gore had to also be in on that lie together, is that what your trying to claim Wez? That everyone worked together long before Bush ever took office to conspire to attack Iraq?

Yep.. I believe he came into office ready to carry on with his Daddy's "good works" in Iraq before 9/11 happened..

 

Only confirmed by the fact that IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

[wez]

Hey TJ.. do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

Either way.. you lose.

[builder]

 

Foaming at the mouth? Your such a child sometimes Builder, I was just screwing around with you two, you both decided to flame me when I said nothing to you and after I gave it back, then suddenly you tried to pretend to ignore me while I kept playing wiht you, I laughed so hard at you guys having to admit you can't compete with me I almost spotted.

 

 

 

 

Louis, nipple clamps are adult sex toys. You claimed that every purchase in America has to be okayed by the admin, who, in this day and age, is your blg black nemesis, Obama.

 

I asked you if your purchase of nipple clamps had to be okayed by the admin,(tongue in cheek) and you immediately launched an attack on not only my person, but my anus, and my integrity.

 

You have now placed yourself in the realm of the NPD sufferer that you are, and probably always have been.

 

Revel in your irrelevance, dudess.

[timesjoke]

 

As a professional nurse I am responsible for all staff working under my delegation. A LPN med error is a wez med error. A Rumsfeld and Cheney lie is a Bush lie.

 

Nice dancing from the question but no cigar.

 

You have to prove either Bush or anyone else actually told a lie first. Based on all the facts and even Bill Clinton what Bush said was no more than what Bill Clinton already said. How can it be a lie if even Bill Clinton said the exact same thing Wez?

 

 

And by the way, if a staff under you broke the rules and made an error because they went outside the rules and guidelines, no your not responsible.

 

 

 

Progressives before he ever took office? Really? Why? Were we planning on invading Iraq before 9/11 ever happened because we were still flexing his Daddy's muscle from the first gulf war after we supplied him with WMD the decade before while he was vice Prez under Reagan?

 

 

But you keep dodging the fact that it was Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore, Harry Reid, all the progressive leadership who said Iraq had WMD;s "FIRST", long before Bush took office so stay on that fact and tell me why Bill Clinton was telling the lie? Are you trying to say Bill Clinton, Al Gore, all the progressives were just the puppets of Bush?

 

Cuz she's a self serving bitch who would also lie to advance her own agenda's?

 

How does her lying make Bush's lies less of a lie?

 

Bush only repeated what she and Bill Clinton said, he was saying what they said based on the same intel, if there was a lie created and intel that was falsed to create the impression there were WMD's in Iraq then that had to be planted by Clinton and the progressives, not Bush, Bush only said what he saw based on the intel, intel already there long before he took office.

 

Bill Clinton never declared war on Iraq based upon lies and I'm not a "you progressive", moron.

 

Bill Clinton did toss a few missles here and there based on this info and he also said the exact same things Bush said so if there was any lie it was one created by Bill Clinton, not Bush.

 

And yes you are a progressive, socialist, America hater, anti-colonialist.

 

Yep.. I believe he came into office ready to carry on with his Daddy's "good works" in Iraq before 9/11 happened..

 

But you still dodge the point, the so called "LIE" existed before Bush took over, Bill Clinto and every progressive in power said that Iraq had WMD's before Bush took office so there is no possible way Bush could have lied.

 

 

A lie would mean he knew a truth outside of the offered facts Wez, are you now saying Bush was smarter than Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the progressives who all said the information available pointed to Iraq having WMD's so Bush should have come to a completely different conclusion than they did?

 

 

Only confirmed by the fact that IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

 

The attack in Iraq was not about 9/11, please try to keep up.

 

 

Unless you work a little harder on trying to stay on the facts I will simply ignore you, I really do try and give everyone a fair shake at conversation but you always seem more interested in fighting with someone than having a honest discussion so if that is all you want, I really see no point in paying attention to you.

 

 

 

I know, I am most likely not doing the right thing in giving you chances to be reasonable, but I really believe all people can be reasonable if you can get them to look past their hate.

[wez]

And yes you are a progressive, socialist, America hater, anti-colonialist.

hahahaha.. whatever.. still better than being .. you.

 

Hey TJ.. do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

Either way.. you lose.

[ImWithStupid]

anti-colonialist.

 

 

[timesjoke]

So clearly there was no lie from Bush.

 

Bush said exactly what Bill Clinton and the rest of the progressive leadership said before Bush took office, there was no lie unless that lie was planted by Bill Clinton and company.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't understand the term IWS?

[wez]

Hey TJ.. Are you now an expert on nursing scopes and standards of practice?

 

And.. do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

Either way.. you lose.

[timesjoke]

So Bush never told a lie and now your busy trying to cover up your failure to prove he did with your usual personal attacks and such, can't say I did not expect it.

[wez]

So Bush never told a lie and now your busy trying to cover up your failure to prove he did with your usual personal attacks and such, can't say I did not expect it.

 

Problem with the questions?

 

Do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

Either way.. you lose.

 

Are you now an expert on nursing scopes and standards of practice?

[builder]

Hey TJ.. Are you now an expert on nursing scopes and standards of practice?

 

And.. do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

Either way.. you lose.

 

You gotta realise that with NPD sufferers, you have to give them "nice" options, Wez.

 

Like, either way, you're still a fixated loser tyke, but if you're not, you're a loser tyke.

 

It's all in the presentations, Wez. :lol:

[timesjoke]

You refused to answer the questions first Wez, lol.

 

 

So you admit with all this crap that you were wrong and being as you can't prove that Bush ever lied about anything, now you want to redirect attention away from the fact you once again shot your mouth off about something you knew nothing about just to be hateful and support the progressive agenda.

[wez]

You refused to answer the questions first Wez, lol.

 

 

So you admit with all this crap that you were wrong and being as you can't prove that Bush ever lied about anything, now you want to redirect attention away from the fact you once again shot your mouth off about something you knew nothing about just to be hateful and support the progressive agenda.

 

I answered them.. you just didn't like the answer..

 

Are you now an expert on nursing scopes and standards of practice?

 

Do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

What is the progressive agenda? Telling the truth? Not closing ones eyes to reality? Holding ones own country responsible for it's actions?

[timesjoke]

No you inserted lies and dodged the direct question.

 

 

How did Bush tell a lie if Clinton and all the progressives said the exact same thing based on the exact same intel long before Bush ever took office?

[ImWithStupid]

You don't understand the term IWS?

 

I do, but not sure you do.

 

Being anti-colonialism, is a good thing.

[wez]

No you inserted lies and dodged the direct question.

Really? What lies would those be Louis? Then it should be easy for you to cut and paste and show me the error of my ways..

 

How did Bush tell a lie if Clinton and all the progressives said the exact same thing based on the exact same intel long before Bush ever took office?

He said God talks to him and commanded him to wage war.. Lie or truth?

 

Either way.. you know the score.. so quit dodging and answer, Louis.

[timesjoke]

You don't understand the term IWS?

 

I do, but not sure you do.

 

Being anti-colonialism, is a good thing.

 

Just like the word "liberal" can have many meanings depending on where your standing in the world and what time period your discussing using that term (liberal in America was something very different not that long ago) being anti-colonialism in the modern world in the majority of European and American circles is a description of how these people view those who operate the majority of the wealth. The original concept was one against military might but it has evolved in modern times to consider economic might to be seen as the exact same things as military might.

 

 

Several new books have come out recently to explain that most of the modern movements that some consider to be socialist in design are actually more closely related to anti-colonialism in their execution and attitudes.

 

 

 

Of course the original usage fits how the progressives saw our involvement in places like Iraq as well.

 

 

 

Put short, the modern concept of economic might being seen as the same as military might allows those who hold these beliefs to see any success by those with the economic might as actually stealing their success from the masses. That is why they seem to be socialist in many ways when they are out to punish the "rich".

[wez]

Gonna answer those question or keep dodging and changing the subject, Louis?

 

 

Do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

[hugo]

God sure gave GW some lousy advice.

[snafu]

Gonna answer those question or keep dodging and changing the subject, Louis?

 

 

Do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

 

no but the 14 resolutions and 9/ll told him to.

[hugo]

Gonna answer those question or keep dodging and changing the subject, Louis?

 

 

Do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

 

no but the 14 resolutions and 9/ll told him to.

How many resolutions were there against Israel? Since when do we take orders from the United Nations?

[ImWithStupid]

You don't understand the term IWS?

 

I do, but not sure you do.

 

Being anti-colonialism, is a good thing.

 

Just like the word "liberal" can have many meanings depending on where your standing in the world and what time period your discussing using that term (liberal in America was something very different not that long ago) being anti-colonialism in the modern world in the majority of European and American circles is a description of how these people view those who operate the majority of the wealth. The original concept was one against military might but it has evolved in modern times to consider economic might to be seen as the exact same things as military might.

 

 

Several new books have come out recently to explain that most of the modern movements that some consider to be socialist in design are actually more closely related to anti-colonialism in their execution and attitudes.

 

 

 

Of course the original usage fits how the progressives saw our involvement in places like Iraq as well.

 

 

 

Put short, the modern concept of economic might being seen as the same as military might allows those who hold these beliefs to see any success by those with the economic might as actually stealing their success from the masses. That is why they seem to be socialist in many ways when they are out to punish the "rich".

 

 

Oh BS. I'm calling a big time BS flag on this.

 

It is so obvious that you so hooked onto the stories in the new about Newt Gingrich about his description of President Obama when he said, "What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?" and didn't have a clue what that meant. You just assumed it was a bash on Obama and liberal/progressives.

 

Now you're back peddling terribly.

 

It's quite obvious what happened here.

 

Just like your verbage suddenly changed from, liberal to progressive. You heard the catch phrase anti-colonial and jumped on it.

 

Ha.

 

The truth. The United States was never meant to be involved in colonialism, and wasn't for the most part other than after the Spanish American war when Progressives pushed for it with Teddy Roosevelt pushing to take Cuba, the Phillipines, etc...

 

It's obvious you didn't know what you were saying and parroted Newt's words.

 

It's quite comical.

[wez]

Bush only repeated what she and Bill Clinton said, he was saying what they said based on the same intel, if there was a lie created and intel that was falsed to create the impression there were WMD's in Iraq then that had to be planted by Clinton and the progressives, not Bush, Bush only said what he saw based on the intel, intel already there long before he took office.

Was part of the intel spoken commandments from God to declare war?

 

 

 

 

God sure gave GW some lousy advice.

hahahaha.. indeed

 

Bush's God is a dumbass.

[wez]

no but the 14 resolutions and 9/ll told him to.

 

Why ain't we "resolution'd" for our WMD program and where are the weapons inspectors turning our country upside down looking for nukes? Think they'd find anything like they were looking for in Iraq?

 

Who's the threat to who?

 

I dunno snaf.. ya think there's a country on Earth with more WMD's than us? I doubt it.. Kinda hypocritical, wouldn't ya say?

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Go tell your neighbors they can't own so much as a single bb gun but you can have a basement full of M16's, AK 47's and 44 Magnums.. or else..

 

Now.. How ya gonna justify it? Point your finger in their face in judgment with your hand on your sidearm?

[jokersarewild]

Gonna answer those question or keep dodging and changing the subject, Louis?

 

 

Do you really believe God talks to Bush and commanded him to wage war or do ya think he was lying?

 

 

no but the 14 resolutions and 9/ll told him to.

How many resolutions were there against Israel? Since when do we take orders from the United Nations?

 

Yeah, last time I checked, the UN is more our b!tch than we are theirs.