so where are the jobs?

[timesjoke]

Of course. It's just that assholes like you expect immediate results for 8 years worth of damage. Ain't gonna happen in 4 years, it will take a second term. Which he WILL win.

 

First of all, Obama is done, he is about to lose his progressive controlled Congress and any improvement to job growth will be from Republicans holding the purse strings just like it was the progressives holding the purse strings from Bush that slowed job growth.

 

 

Obama and the progressive controlled Congress will end with a massive loss in jobs, Progressive policies have failed, and that is why the public is about to vote them out of power.

 

 

Don't ask me sh t until you show me those jobs. Just saying it happened doesn't prove sh t, show me proof, show me documentation, show me charts.

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Your own chart showed a net gain in jobs, as usual your progressive mind won't even let you see your own proof that does not agree with what you want it to be.

[phreakwars]

TJ's idea of a NET GAIN:

 

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Wow, a WHOPPING 1.1%

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[timesjoke]

TJ's idea of a NET GAIN:

 

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Wow, a WHOPPING 1.1%

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Sure beats the -3.1 Obama has with his policies.

 

 

Obama got everything he wanted. His advisors and all the progressives agreed on a set of actions to take and fix the economy and spur job growth through massive spending of tax money we did not have. Obama and all of the progressives promised us a cap on unemployment of 8% if they got their massive "Stimulus Package". Obama and company even claimed it was so important to start the program right then, nobody was allowed to actually read it before voting for it.

 

 

Obama and the progressives have proven they are idiots, and what private sector will trust them to not further screw things up? We will see job creation in the private sector when they can feel confident on what the rules will be from day to day to include the taxes.

[eddo]

TJ's idea of a NET GAIN:

 

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Wow, a WHOPPING 1.1%

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looks pretty good compared to Obama's -3.1...

[phreakwars]

That isn't a full term morons 1 and 2. Give the guy 8 years and watch what happens.

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[ImWithStupid]

That isn't a full term morons 1 and 2. Give the guy 8 years and watch what happens.

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Yep. Trickle up poverty, the Progressive plan.

 

Can't wait.

[phreakwars]

That isn't a full term morons 1 and 2. Give the guy 8 years and watch what happens.

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Yep. Trickle up poverty, the Progressive plan.

 

Can't wait.

100% fear mongering to yourself.

 

That's why our opinions on this will never change. You believe your own fears, and parrot them like they are fact.

 

That is no where close to what the plan of action is.. what, fuck all the unemployed?

 

Guess I will NEVER EVER EVER hear a REAL Republican proposal for our nation. Just complaints.

 

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[timesjoke]

That isn't a full term morons 1 and 2. Give the guy 8 years and watch what happens.

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Yep. Trickle up poverty, the Progressive plan.

 

Can't wait.

100% fear mongering to yourself.

 

That's why our opinions on this will never change. You believe your own fears, and parrot them like they are fact.

 

That is no where close to what the plan of action is.. what, f all the unemployed?

 

Guess I will NEVER EVER EVER hear a REAL Republican proposal for our nation. Just complaints.

 

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While you have your own fear mongering by trying to pain business and the 'rich' as evil. You tell all your people that the only salvation is through massive Government controls and the few Elite telling everyone else what to do, what to eat, where to live, and what medical care they are allowed to have.

 

 

8 years for Obama?

 

He is done right now, after this election Republicans will hold the purse strings and the damage from Obama will be all but haulted. After the Republicans do take power, jobs will start to grow and unemployment will decline. Some of that success will be from new policies but even more of it will be because the job creaters will not be scared to death of a group (Democrats) that only wants to attack them.

[jokersarewild]

That isn't a full term morons 1 and 2. Give the guy 8 years and watch what happens.

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Yep. Trickle up poverty, the Progressive plan.

 

Can't wait.

100% fear mongering to yourself.

 

That's why our opinions on this will never change. You believe your own fears, and parrot them like they are fact.

 

That is no where close to what the plan of action is.. what, f all the unemployed?

 

Guess I will NEVER EVER EVER hear a REAL Republican proposal for our nation. Just complaints.

 

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While you have your own fear mongering by trying to pain business and the 'rich' as evil. You tell all your people that the only salvation is through massive Government controls and the few Elite telling everyone else what to do, what to eat, where to live, and what medical care they are allowed to have.

 

 

8 years for Obama?

 

He is done right now, after this election Republicans will hold the purse strings and the damage from Obama will be all but haulted. After the Republicans do take power, jobs will start to grow and unemployment will decline. Some of that success will be from new policies but even more of it will be because the job creaters will not be scared to death of a group (Democrats) that only wants to attack them.

 

Couldn't at all be because Big Bidniz has many Republican friends that would make them the beneficiaries of tax breaks and the like? They'll worry less when all of their friends are in high places. Don't pretend that all business only flourishes under Republicans, or that the Republicans are the magical creators of jobs.

[timesjoke]

That isn't a full term morons 1 and 2. Give the guy 8 years and watch what happens.

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Yep. Trickle up poverty, the Progressive plan.

 

Can't wait.

100% fear mongering to yourself.

 

That's why our opinions on this will never change. You believe your own fears, and parrot them like they are fact.

 

That is no where close to what the plan of action is.. what, f all the unemployed?

 

Guess I will NEVER EVER EVER hear a REAL Republican proposal for our nation. Just complaints.

 

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While you have your own fear mongering by trying to pain business and the 'rich' as evil. You tell all your people that the only salvation is through massive Government controls and the few Elite telling everyone else what to do, what to eat, where to live, and what medical care they are allowed to have.

 

 

8 years for Obama?

 

He is done right now, after this election Republicans will hold the purse strings and the damage from Obama will be all but haulted. After the Republicans do take power, jobs will start to grow and unemployment will decline. Some of that success will be from new policies but even more of it will be because the job creaters will not be scared to death of a group (Democrats) that only wants to attack them.

 

Couldn't at all be because Big Bidniz has many Republican friends that would make them the beneficiaries of tax breaks and the like? They'll worry less when all of their friends are in high places. Don't pretend that all business only flourishes under Republicans, or that the Republicans are the magical creators of jobs.

 

Please try to read what I post, look at it, I clearly said some of the positive changes will be from new Republican policies but more of it will be because the job creaters will not be scared of the Progressives who attack them.

 

 

There is a conspiracy theory among the Progressives that the "rich" are intentionally not creating jobs to make Obama look bad, now there is a huge pile of crap but it is based on one truth, the rich are not investing but it is not because they are trying to make anyone look bad, the rich are not investing because they don't know what the rules are going to be, take for example the Bush tax cuts, if they expire it will cost the rich billions on their invested money, they could actually lose money instead of make money on investments from that one tax change alone and combine that with severely increased employment costs because of things like the new healthcare law and suddenly you can see where a 'rich' guy must be very, very careful with any investment while Progressives are in power.............you never know what new tax or cost is comming next with Progressives.

 

 

The one thing Progressives have always done is raise taxes and go after business and the "rich" like they are laying golden eggs.

 

 

 

Ask yourself a question joker, if you wanted to start a new business, would you like the Progressives circling above like vultures waiting for you to open your doors so they can start feeding on you?

[ImWithStupid]

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[phreakwars]

So where is that free lunch?

 

I mean you wanna post an image of a lunch box as a claim that everyones getting all these great free things, so where is this free lunch all the unemployed people are supposedly getting that's keeping them from getting/wanting a job?

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[timesjoke]

Giving away a free lunch would be like extending unemployment benefits, the Government will give away tax money, but the Progressives have no idea how to help the ecomony because they hate business and private enterprise.

 

 

The solutions are in the hands of those they hate and attack.

[phreakwars]

And what would YOU do with the millions of unemployed? Tell them to "GET A JOB" even though there are none? I see IWS has no problem calling them lazy.

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[timesjoke]

And what would YOU do with the millions of unemployed? Tell them to "GET A JOB" even though there are none? I see IWS has no problem calling them lazy.

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I don't think you make a problem better by creating more problems. Giving away "free money" sounds like a good short term solution to those who restrict their view to the hear and now, but the logical thing to do is consider how many harms are being done in the long run by spending money we don't have for "feel good" programs.

 

 

If any money should be spent by big Government, it is better to help the job creaters and settle the markets, not treat the job creaters like the enemy and keep markets unbalanced the way Progressives do.

 

 

 

 

The people out of work are not all "lazy" but I fail to see how their being lazy or not means the Government must take responsibility for them.

[ImWithStupid]

Denmark has long held the title of the best place on earth to be laid off. With an expensive, generous welfare state, and the world’s most lavish unemployment insurance scheme, virtually no one falls through the cracks upon losing a job.

 

But the government unveiled an unpleasant surprise in June, when it halved the country’s whopping four-year unemployment benefits period to help mend its finances after the financial crisis.

 

The reason: Danish studies show that the longer a person goes without a job, the harder it is to find work. Many people get a job within the first three months of entering the system, but many more wait until just before benefits expire to take anything available.

 

“So you need to have a period of unemployment that is as short as possible,” Claus Hjort Frederiksen, the finance minister, told me recently in Copenhagen.

 

Consider this 2009 chart from Denmark’s Labor Market Commission:

 

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It shows that between 2005-7, the number of people who got jobs during their four years of benefits — the green line – rose at the beginning before dropping sharply, then spiked as benefits were about to run out, only to plummet after. The red line shows similar behavior in 1998, when Denmark’s benefit period was five years.

 

“It shows that people are not seeking all the jobs they could get, but just the jobs they would like to have,” said Steen Bocian, chief economist at Danske Bank.

 

http://economix.blog...ial-safety-net/

[timesjoke]

Why do we still have millions of illegals here if there are no jobs?

 

Obviously there are jobs available, but some people would rather suck on the Government tit instead of working a job that is available but is undesirable.

 

 

And guess what, if we can get Americans to work these jobs, sudenly the illegal problem is mostly fixed because there are no jobs here to draw them to America illegally.

 

 

Oh, and instead of paying out massive amounts og free Government money, suddenly we are instead getting taxes from their income.....talk about a perfect solution....

[ImWithStupid]

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[phreakwars]

Neither of you wants to answer the question, of course. I'll ask it again.

 

And what would YOU do with the millions of unemployed?

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[ImWithStupid]

[phreakwars]

Still no answer?

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[jokersarewild]

Yeah, illegals are hired ONLY because other people don't want their jobs. Not because they're cheaper in pretty much every way.

[hugo]

And what would YOU do with the millions of unemployed? Tell them to "GET A JOB" even though there are none? I see IWS has no problem calling them lazy.

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Would you let your parents, siblings or best friend go hungry or homeless? I would not.

[timesjoke]

Yeah, illegals are hired ONLY because other people don't want their jobs. Not because they're cheaper in pretty much every way.

 

"ONLY"? Who said that? Certainly not me. But answer me this question:

 

If you had no welfare or other "free money" to live on, would you pick vegtables to earn some money? No matter what it pays, it is still better than zero.

 

 

 

 

And what would YOU do with the millions of unemployed? Tell them to "GET A JOB" even though there are none? I see IWS has no problem calling them lazy.

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Would you let your parents, siblings or best friend go hungry or homeless? I would not.

 

And that is my point as well and it is also the Christian answer. Charity begins with your own circles.

 

 

All the Federal Government can do is make things worse, get out of the way of American business and we will get new jobs, people want to make money, they just need the freedom to do so.