jokersarewild Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
hugo Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". Does your anus still hurt? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
ImWithStupid Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". Jon Stewart is the voice of those who choose to not think for themselves and take comedy out of context as political fact. Quote
hugo Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". Jon Stewart is the voice of those who choose to not think for themselves and take comedy out of context as political fact. Colbert is at least funny. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
jokersarewild Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". Jon Stewart is the voice of those who choose to not think for themselves and take comedy out of context as political fact. Shrug . That may be. Doesn't mean he's small. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
ImWithStupid Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". Jon Stewart is the voice of those who choose to not think for themselves and take comedy out of context as political fact. Shrug . That may be. Doesn't mean he's small. You're right. He has a huge following. Unfortunately, most of them are very much uninformed, and only get their political information from him and his comedy skits. Much of which are taken out of context to enhance the comedy effect. Quote
timesjoke Posted November 1, 2010 Author Posted November 1, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". What is it with your constant stream of personal flames on me lately kid? John Stewart is small, compared to the office of the President of the United States kid. Stewart speaks and a bunch of children and brainwashed socialist idiots listen. The President of the United States speaks and the entire world listens. Many in the world may not like what he says, but they all listen. The distance from Stewart to the President should be light years on the respect chart..........SHOULD. Obama has allowed himself to be taken out of his higher possition of importance and reduced to some irrelevant "dude" and diminished the office of President. I watched portions of that show and Stewart actually look the more important figure on the stage, in my opinion, that was a big mistake for Obama to allow to happen. Seriously, Stewart called the President of the United States "dude" this guy has no respect for the office at all. Even if he thinks Obama is messing up, there is still a certain level of respect you should show the office Joker. I don't like about 99% of what Obama has done, but at the end of the day he is still my President and I would show him nothing but respect if I were to talk to him. Stewert basically waved off the office of President as irrelivent and spoke to Obama like he was a dead beat dad or something. Quote
jokersarewild Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 So Obama decided to go on Stewart's show and I have to say, Stewart really ripped Obama apart and hit Obama with harder questions that I have ever seen a liberal leaning reporter/host ask of him. Obama was stumbling and purely on the defensive and even tried to say when he promised "change" it was not "change right now", lol. The situation was bleak for Obama then suddenly Stweart called Obama "dude". Dude, really? Talk about being reduced to nothing, Obama had lost his spark and he has lost the respect his office should represent. Say what you want about Bush, he was never just some "dude" to be waved off by someone as small as John Stewart. You're quite ignorant/uninformed if you think John Stewart is "small". What is it with your constant stream of personal flames on me lately kid? It's not personal. You just aren't well informed if you think John Stewart is small. For instance, he interviewed the President. That's not small. John Stewart is small, compared to the office of the President of the United States kid. Stewart speaks and a bunch of children and brainwashed socialist idiots listen. The President of the United States speaks and the entire world listens. Many in the world may not like what he says, but they all listen. The distance from Stewart to the President should be light years on the respect chart..........SHOULD. Obama has allowed himself to be taken out of his higher possition of importance and reduced to some irrelevant "dude" and diminished the office of President. I watched portions of that show and Stewart actually look the more important figure on the stage, in my opinion, that was a big mistake for Obama to allow to happen. Seriously, Stewart called the President of the United States "dude" this guy has no respect for the office at all. Even if he thinks Obama is messing up, there is still a certain level of respect you should show the office Joker. I don't like about 99% of what Obama has done, but at the end of the day he is still my President and I would show him nothing but respect if I were to talk to him. Stewert basically waved off the office of President as irrelivent and spoke to Obama like he was a dead beat dad or something. I don't think Stewart has any disrespect for the office. It's his job to ask questions like he did, whether they be hard or not. And if they're hard and make Obama look like a dolt, sucks to be Obama. John did what he does well. Obama put himself in a place to receive such. Did he never watch the show? I find that a little hard to believe, assuming he ever claims this. Again, he knew what he was getting into. I think Stewart did what he does, and that's what's expected of him. I'd find it more disrespectful if he gave him softball questions and didn't call him "dude". Edit: Just rewatched the whole interview, and the context of "dude" was actually perfect. Obama said that Larry Summers has done a "heck of a job", which is the same way GW described Michael Brown (the FEMA director) post-Katrina. Stewart, immediately connecting the two, said "You don't wanna use those words, dude." It worked, and he wasn't trying to disrespect the President. The interview (including the "dude") was actually quite good, considering the line the two had to walk to do it. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
timesjoke Posted November 1, 2010 Author Posted November 1, 2010 It's not personal. Looks that way being you are always using nasty language in my direction, you could just ask me why I see him as small and I would gladly tell you why but instead you flame me and act like Stewart is your personal God or something. You just aren't well informed if you think John Stewart is small. For instance, he interviewed the President. That's not small. A few bloggers who nobody knows got to interview the President before Stewart so does that mean he was less important than the bloggers? Get past your knee jerk attack mode and look at the context of my point. In comparison to who he was interviewing, Stewart is small. You can't possibly compare a comedian with a very narrow following limited to children and far left extremists to the President of the United States kid. The two compared, Stewart is small in reality but was seen as bigger than Obama in that setting, I already said Obama screwed up stooping down to such a low level. I don't think Stewart has any disrespect for the office. It's his job to ask questions like he did, whether they be hard or not. And if they're hard and make Obama look like a dolt, sucks to be Obama. John did what he does well. Obama put himself in a place to receive such. Did he never watch the show? I find that a little hard to believe, assuming he ever claims this. Everything Stewart did was disrespectful, from creating a similar stage to the inauguration to treating him in a disrespectful tone and such was purely wrong. I think you are mistaking Stewart for a true journalist. He is a comedian who twists truth in a funny way to earn money, nothing more. Again, he knew what he was getting into. I think Stewart did what he does, and that's what's expected of him. I'd find it more disrespectful if he gave him softball questions and didn't call him "dude". It is a comedy show....hello.......... Stop giving Stewart more credit than he has earned. There are a lot of real reporters out there who do the job every day, Stewart takes the news, twists it enough to make it funny and dishes it out to a bunch of idiots who think he knows what he is talking about, nothing more. Just rewatched the whole interview, and the context of "dude" was actually perfect. Obama said that Larry Summers has done a "heck of a job", which is the same way GW described Michael Brown (the FEMA director) post-Katrina. Stewart, immediately connecting the two, said "You don't wanna use those words, dude." It worked, and he wasn't trying to disrespect the President. The interview (including the "dude") was actually quite good, considering the line the two had to walk to do it. Calling the President of the United States "dude" is never appropriate kid. I watched only part of the show and I felt my IQ dropping rapidly. Nobody with self respect and a speck of independence could watch that show. Quote
eddo Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 repeatedly calling JAW "kid" isn't a personal flame? insinuating that his age is somehow a determent to him and his intelligence/knowledge of topics is ok? double standards suck TJ.... Quote I'm trusted by more women.
jokersarewild Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 It's not personal. Looks that way being you are always using nasty language in my direction, you could just ask me why I see him as small and I would gladly tell you why but instead you flame me and act like Stewart is your personal God or something. No, I stated a fact. You took it as an insult. Boo hoo. You just aren't well informed if you think John Stewart is small. For instance, he interviewed the President. That's not small. A few bloggers who nobody knows got to interview the President before Stewart so does that mean he was less important than the bloggers? I'm sure they have as many fans as Stewart too, right? Get past your knee jerk attack mode and look at the context of my point. In comparison to who he was interviewing, Stewart is small. You can't possibly compare a comedian with a very narrow following limited to children and far left extremists to the President of the United States kid. The two compared, Stewart is small in reality but was seen as bigger than Obama in that setting, I already said Obama screwed up stooping down to such a low level. Yes, John Stewart is less well known than the President of the US. Great point. Did you SERIOUSLY expect him to OVERSHADOW the host of the show he was on? Really? Why would they let that happen? John Stewart is SUPPOSED to overshadow the person he's interviewing. He's the comedian, the host has to be a "straight man" so to speak, in order for jokes to be made. It's how it works. He wasn't disrespectful, he did what he does for a living every night. Suck it up. I don't think Stewart has any disrespect for the office. It's his job to ask questions like he did, whether they be hard or not. And if they're hard and make Obama look like a dolt, sucks to be Obama. John did what he does well. Obama put himself in a place to receive such. Did he never watch the show? I find that a little hard to believe, assuming he ever claims this. Everything Stewart did was disrespectful, from creating a similar stage to the inauguration to treating him in a disrespectful tone and such was purely wrong. Disrespectful tone? You're so ridiculous sometimes. There was nothing about his tone that was disrespectful. Rewatch it. He wasn't disrespectful to him at all. He treated him like he would any other guest he had, and I don't know why Obama would expect to be treated any differently. I think you are mistaking Stewart for a true journalist. He is a comedian who twists truth in a funny way to earn money, nothing more. I know his show is purely for comedic purposes. I understand this. Then why the f would he spare the guy he makes fun of so frequently? That would be hypocritical and wrong. "I'll talk sh t about you when you aren't near me, but I'll smile and be all nice to your face and not ask hard questions or try to call you out, because you're the President." Again, he knew what he was getting into. I think Stewart did what he does, and that's what's expected of him. I'd find it more disrespectful if he gave him softball questions and didn't call him "dude". It is a comedy show....hello.......... Stop giving Stewart more credit than he has earned. There are a lot of real reporters out there who do the job every day, Stewart takes the news, twists it enough to make it funny and dishes it out to a bunch of idiots who think he knows what he is talking about, nothing more. I know it's a comedy show. YOU seem to have an issue with that. You act like The Daily Show is CNN and Stewart is a respected journalist, and it's an outrage that comedy happened. Just rewatched the whole interview, and the context of "dude" was actually perfect. Obama said that Larry Summers has done a "heck of a job", which is the same way GW described Michael Brown (the FEMA director) post-Katrina. Stewart, immediately connecting the two, said "You don't wanna use those words, dude." It worked, and he wasn't trying to disrespect the President. The interview (including the "dude") was actually quite good, considering the line the two had to walk to do it. Calling the President of the United States "dude" is never appropriate kid. I watched only part of the show and I felt my IQ dropping rapidly. Nobody with self respect and a speck of independence could watch that show. Times: pissed off at the arrogance of Obama Obama sees himself as a kind of "pope" of Government Obama is the most arrogant man I have ever known Obama seems to be as dumb as a rock Obama has made our international "cred" worse, he is weak and everyone knows it You hold only THE HIGHEST opinion and UTMOST RESPECT for him, right? Yes, calling him weak, arrogant, and dumb as a rock is SO MUCH BETTER than "dude". Fucking hypocrite. 1 Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
timesjoke Posted November 2, 2010 Author Posted November 2, 2010 repeatedly calling JAW "kid" isn't a personal flame? insinuating that his age is somehow a determent to him and his intelligence/knowledge of topics is ok? No eddo, the comment is about his behavior, not his knowledge, try to keep up. double standards suck TJ.... Only a double standard if you try to insert something that is not there eddo, I have made it very clear my comment about him being a kid is only concerning his behavior, a 30+ year old person could still come here and behave like a child, Wez comes to mind as an example. Quote
timesjoke Posted November 2, 2010 Author Posted November 2, 2010 No, I stated a fact. You took it as an insult. Boo hoo. It is not a fact that Stewart is on the same level as the President just because you say it kid. You turned to personal attacks on me because you are still holding a massive grudge and carrying it all over the forum........acting like a......kid. I'm sure they have as many fans as Stewart too, right? Fans? I have no idea, only kids and brain washed idiots are concerned about either group and I don't fall into that category. Stewart is not on the same level as a real news person though, he is a comedian, nothing more, no matter how many people like his act, that does not change who he is. Let me offer you an example: Sandra Bullock is famous and has a huge following. In the last two movies it is estimated she earned $56 million dollars. Her name is known by almost everyone around the world, but if she commented on political issues or hard news her words would mean the same as Stewart as a comedian. Just being known and having a following does not automatically mean you are good kid. Yes, John Stewart is less well known than the President of the US. Great point. And less powerful, and not even on the playing field of American politics, and he is not a news reporter, Stewart is nothign compared to the President of the United States kid and that is my point about being small in comparison. Do you know what a comparison is kid? Did you SERIOUSLY expect him to OVERSHADOW the host of the show he was on? Really? Why would they let that happen? John Stewart is SUPPOSED to overshadow the person he's interviewing. He's the comedian, the host has to be a "straight man" so to speak, in order for jokes to be made. It's how it works. He wasn't disrespectful, he did what he does for a living every night. Suck it up. Yes. First of all it was stupid for Obama to enter into that arena, but if he had to he should have set the limits on how Stewart could behave. Obama is not doing the job of straight man, he is the President of the United States and Obama should respect that office more than to allow his office to be ridiculed by a nobody like Stewart. Presidents have been going to comedian shows like the late show for many years and each time the comedian shows the President enough respect to not do as Stewart just did. Why is it comedians like Lenno and Letterman could figure out how to be funny without being disrespectful but Stewart could not? Disrespectful tone? You're so ridiculous sometimes. There was nothing about his tone that was disrespectful. Rewatch it. He wasn't disrespectful to him at all. He treated him like he would any other guest he had, and I don't know why Obama would expect to be treated any differently. Obama is the President of the United States, he is not "any other guest" and there is a level of respect that should always be shown to the President of the United States even if you don't like him. Other Comedians have figued that out on their shows, why is it you think Stewart could not? I know his show is purely for comedic purposes. I understand this. Then why the f would he spare the guy he makes fun of so frequently? That would be hypocritical and wrong. "I'll talk sh t about you when you aren't near me, but I'll smile and be all nice to your face and not ask hard questions or try to call you out, because you're the President." Most of the stuff Stewart calls him out on and calls other peopel out on is distorted for comedy kid. Stewart is a comedian, not a news reporter, you need to understand that part first. Other comedians in the past have been able to still be funny without being disrespectful. I know it's a comedy show. YOU seem to have an issue with that. You act like The Daily Show is CNN and Stewart is a respected journalist, and it's an outrage that comedy happened. You are the guy trying to prop up Stewart as an important figure kid, not me. I know he is nothing but a comedian and that is why I said in comparison to the Office of President of the United States, Stewart is small. You are the guy who kept trying to claim Stewart is as big as the President just because Stweart has a lot of fans, not me. All I am pointing out is Obama made a big mistake going to such a small time venue and that Stewart was disrecpectful during the show. You hold only THE HIGHEST opinion and UTMOST RESPECT for him, right? Yes, calling him weak, arrogant, and dumb as a rock is SO MUCH BETTER than "dude". Fucking hypocrite. Wow, now you show why I call you kid, this is childish garbage...this is the best you can come up with to defend your little mini 'god' Stewart for being disrespectful? Let me ask you a question, did I say any of those things in front of Obama on television? When we dissagree about these things there are proper ways of saying we dissagree and still maintaining a air of respect. If I were to speak with Obama about how I feel I would not be crass and disrespectful because I would show him the respect he deserves as President of the United States. I consider it a matter of self-respect to conduct myself in the proper way when around people who deserve that respect Joker. Obama is not the usual losers Stewart gets on his show and after the way he acted do you think anyone else who is respectable will want to go there? It is a comedy show Joker, nothign more, and Stewart is nothing more than a comedian on that show. Quote
wez Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 I have made it very clear my comment about him being a kid is only concerning his behavior, a 30+ year old person could still come here and behave like a child, Wez comes to mind as an example. Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. ~ Jesus Sweet.. I'm goin' to heaven.. yay me.. Quote
jokersarewild Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 repeatedly calling JAW "kid" isn't a personal flame? insinuating that his age is somehow a determent to him and his intelligence/knowledge of topics is ok? No eddo, the comment is about his behavior, not his knowledge, try to keep up. It's still a personal flame. If I think you act like a dipshit, and ended half of my sentences in my posts calling you a dipshit, would it be a personal flame? Yes. Yes it would. Mind you, I think you're a smart guy. Most of the time double standards suck TJ.... Only a double standard if you try to insert something that is not there eddo, I have made it very clear my comment about him being a kid is only concerning his behavior, a 30+ year old person could still come here and behave like a child... Like he said, TJ, double standards suck. 1 Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
jokersarewild Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 No, I stated a fact. You took it as an insult. Boo hoo. It is not a fact that Stewart is on the same level as the President just because you say it kid. You turned to personal attacks on me because you are still holding a massive grudge and carrying it all over the forum........acting like a......kid. I don't hold a grudge against you. I just enjoy going against you on most things because you're normally a good fight. I rarely agree with you because of my viewpoints, although I can understand both sides of the argument and choose mine accordingly. If I had a grudge against you, I'd be far, far more insulting and troll every post you have. I'm sure they have as many fans as Stewart too, right? Fans? I have no idea, only kids and brain washed idiots are concerned about either group and I don't fall into that category. Stewart is not on the same level as a real news person though, he is a comedian, nothing more, no matter how many people like his act, that does not change who he is. Let me offer you an example: Sandra Bullock is famous and has a huge following. In the last two movies it is estimated she earned $56 million dollars. Her name is known by almost everyone around the world, but if she commented on political issues or hard news her words would mean the same as Stewart as a comedian. Just being known and having a following does not automatically mean you are good kid. I can find John Stewart amusing while taking what he says as comedy, nothing more. Only morons take what he says as actual "news". Those people should be shot. I understand he's a comedian. But not every comedian has a show where they pick apart political matters in such a way, however. As far as political issues/hard news commentating, on his show, he's not to be taken seriously. In another forum, perhaps. But his show doesn't pretend to be real news. Yes, John Stewart is less well known than the President of the US. Great point. And less powerful, and not even on the playing field of American politics, and he is not a news reporter, Stewart is nothign compared to the President of the United States kid and that is my point about being small in comparison. Do you know what a comparison is kid? You really are a condescending butt hole. Do know what "condescending" means, old man? I can link you an online dictionary. But would typing it in be too hard for your arthritic little fingers to handle, grandpa? Would clicking be difficult? Wanna ask the nurse to click the link after she changes your diaper? Might be a good idea. To continue the actual debate: If he's nothing, then why did the President of the United States go on his show? Sure, John Stewart isn't the President of the United States, but I sure as hell didn't get to interview Obama on my Fake News Show. I'm pretty sure you didn't either. 1 Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
jokersarewild Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Did you SERIOUSLY expect him to OVERSHADOW the host of the show he was on? Really? Why would they let that happen? John Stewart is SUPPOSED to overshadow the person he's interviewing. He's the comedian, the host has to be a "straight man" so to speak, in order for jokes to be made. It's how it works. He wasn't disrespectful, he did what he does for a living every night. Suck it up. Yes. Haha. HAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Your expectations are a little off. First of all it was stupid for Obama to enter into that arena, but if he had to he should have set the limits on how Stewart could behave. Obama is not doing the job of straight man, he is the President of the United States and Obama should respect that office more than to allow his office to be ridiculed by a nobody like Stewart. Presidents have been going to comedian shows like the late show for many years and each time the comedian shows the President enough respect to not do as Stewart just did. Why is it comedians like Lenno and Letterman could figure out how to be funny without being disrespectful but Stewart could not? Stewart isn't a nobody. Again, if he's a nobody, why did Obama go on Stewart's show? Also, he wasn't disrespectful. John Stewart makes fun of politics every day. He makes fun of Obama every day. Leno and Letterman are a different type of show, really. Stewart was going to ask questions that Leno and Letterman just wouldn't, because of what their show is about. Disrespectful tone? You're so ridiculous sometimes. There was nothing about his tone that was disrespectful. Rewatch it. He wasn't disrespectful to him at all. He treated him like he would any other guest he had, and I don't know why Obama would expect to be treated any differently. Obama is the President of the United States, he is not "any other guest" and there is a level of respect that should always be shown to the President of the United States even if you don't like him. Other Comedians have figued that out on their shows, why is it you think Stewart could not? Except he didn't disrespect him. I know his show is purely for comedic purposes. I understand this. Then why the f would he spare the guy he makes fun of so frequently? That would be hypocritical and wrong. "I'll talk sh t about you when you aren't near me, but I'll smile and be all nice to your face and not ask hard questions or try to call you out, because you're the President." Most of the stuff Stewart calls him out on and calls other peopel out on is distorted for comedy kid. Stewart is a comedian, not a news reporter, you need to understand that part first. Other comedians in the past have been able to still be funny without being disrespectful. Nope, John Stewart knows nothing of current events. Most of the stuff Stewart calls him out on and calls other peopel out on is distorted for comedy kid. Now, how did we go, in two years, from "Hope and Change: We are the People We've Been Looking For" to "You're not gonna give them the keys, are you?" Is it — are you disappointed in how it's gone? Are you surprised that other people — even your base — can be disappointed? Or do you reject that narrative? Not really distorted, no. Pretty straight-forward question about a real topic. Have you convinced your own party that the legislative progress has been enough, and how do you feel about their reaction to it? Same thing. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
jokersarewild Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Is the difficulty that you have here the distance between what you ran on and what you delivered? Is that — you ran with such (if I may) "audacity" — so much of what you said was, "great leaders lead in a time of opportunity," "we're the ones we're looking for" — yet legislatively it has felt timid at times. I'm not even sure at times what you want out of a healthcare bill. Gasp! A question about the issues! Doesn't seem disrespectful. He's saying "it seems like it's been a bit timid, what say you?" The response: Obama: And this is — Jon, I love your show, but — Stewart: Very kind of you! Obama: — but this is something where, you know, I have a profound disagreement with you and — I don't want to lump you in with a lot of other pundits — but — Stewart: You may. Obama: — but this notion that healthcare was "timid": you've got 30 million people who are gonna get health insurance as a consequence of this — Stewart: Right. Stewart goes "Whoa, wait, I didn't mean it like that..." Stewart: The suggestion was not that it's inconsequential or that it doesn't help — Obama: The suggestion was that it was "timid." Stewart: Timid. Obama: Yeah, that was — Stewart: And I'll tell you what I mean, and I don't mean to lump you in with other Presidents. (laughter) But I think if I were to try to coalesce whatever criticism of it may be, it's that you ran on the idea that this system needed basic reform — Obama: Yup. Stewart: It feels like some of the reforms that have passed, like healthcare, have been done in a very political manner that has papered over a foundation that is corrupt. So Stewart is saying "there are some real problems I don't think you've addressed" and shown he knew what he was talking about. Sounds like a normal comedian to me. Oh wait, it doesn't. It SOUNDS like someone who had to actually ask some REAL POLITICAL QUESTIONS on a comedy show that DEALS WITH POLITICS all the time. Watch the interview between Obama and Letterman. He asks him about his family and his home life, among other things. Doesn't really ask the hard questions though. Stewart does, for a reason. And if you had the chance to talk to the President face to face, wouldn't you ask him a few things you wanted to know yourself? Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
jokersarewild Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Obama: — you've got a Patient's Bill of Rights that makes sure that insurance companies can't drop you when you get sick, if you've been paying premiums, that make sure there aren't lifetime limits, make sure kids who don't have health insurance can stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26, and cuts the deficit by over a trillion dollars. This is what I think most people would say is as significant a piece of legislation as we've seen in this country's history. And the notion that — but what happens is, it gets discounted because the presumption is, well, we didn't get 100% of what we wanted, we got 90% of what we wanted, so let's focus on the 10% we didn't get as opposed to the 90% that we did. And right now there is a woman in New Hampshire who doesn't have to sell her house to get her cancer treatments because of that healthcare bill. And she doesn't think it's inconsequential. She doesn't think it's "timid." ^^^This is supposed to go in after Stewart says "Right" and the quote tag ends, but when I put it in there, it said "you must post something" or something like that. Quite odd. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
timesjoke Posted November 3, 2010 Author Posted November 3, 2010 I didn't bother reading most of that either kid, you seem desperate to try and pain Stewart as a God or something when he is not. Stewart is a comedian only, nothing more. Syewart is "small" in the context of who he is compared to the President of the United States. Your inability to understand that point and what appears to be your worship of Stewart is forcing you to post a lot of fluff that has nothing to do with the basic fact that Stewart is a small time host of a small time show who twists the news into something to entertain children and far left liberals who feed off distorted reality. Take the 'timid' comment. In what was was Obama and company ignoring the majority of the American people to force through bad legislation after bad legislation 'timid'? Obama forced through what he wanted, he was not 'timid'. But this small man being able to call the President of the United States 'timid' to his face made him feel more important than he really is. This was about Stewart feeding his own ego, not trying to have a serious conversation about the facts. And to be honest, that is what he is supposed to do. Going back to the original point, Stewart is a comedian, he entertains and his brand of entertainment is being disrespectful to those who are in power most of the time. That is why so many immature kids like him because they also hate authority and want to thrash against the system. It was a huge mistake for Obama to go on that show, if I was running against him in 2012, I definately would have that part of Stewats calling Obama 'timid' in the campaign notes for later use, lol. Quote
jokersarewild Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 I didn't bother reading most of that either kid, you seem desperate to try and pain Stewart as a God or something when he is not. Stewart is a comedian only, nothing more. Syewart is "small" in the context of who he is compared to the President of the United States. Your inability to understand that point and what appears to be your worship of Stewart is forcing you to post a lot of fluff that has nothing to do with the basic fact that Stewart is a small time host of a small time show who twists the news into something to entertain children and far left liberals who feed off distorted reality. Hm. An idiotic, bullshit response where you parrot your previous posts as if they're actual talking points. Oh, and according to you, everybody else in the country is small time. So Obama should just cocoon himself in his office since even his advisors are so beneath him, to converse with them would soil his great office. Again, Obama went on HIS show. Obviously he's not that small time. I don't worship Stewart. I'm defending his interview against your puritanical vision of "respect". Take the 'timid' comment. In what was was Obama and company ignoring the majority of the American people to force through bad legislation after bad legislation 'timid'? Obama forced through what he wanted, he was not 'timid'. But this small man being able to call the President of the United States 'timid' to his face made him feel more important than he really is. This was about Stewart feeding his own ego, not trying to have a serious conversation about the facts. And to be honest, that is what he is supposed to do. Going back to the original point, Stewart is a comedian, he entertains and his brand of entertainment is being disrespectful to those who are in power most of the time. That is why so many immature kids like him because they also hate authority and want to thrash against the system. He was saying "You haven't actually done what you've promised. You passed healthcare reform on top of the same corrupt system you promised to change." If you actually took time to read this, you'd understand. But the guy who talks trash behind others backs (while still claiming to respect them) can't possibly be bothered to do anything more than trash talk. Classic. It was a huge mistake for Obama to go on that show, if I was running against him in 2012, I definately would have that part of Stewats calling Obama 'timid' in the campaign notes for later use, lol. And someone probably will. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
timesjoke Posted November 5, 2010 Author Posted November 5, 2010 Hm. An idiotic, bullshit response where you parrot your previous posts as if they're actual talking points. You mean like you saying Stewart is a big person on the same level as the President when he is not? All I can do is keep telling the truth and keeping things in the realm of reality kid, if that means the truth must be spoken over and over to keep the conversation in reality...then so be it. Oh, and according to you, everybody else in the country is small time. So Obama should just cocoon himself in his office since even his advisors are so beneath him, to converse with them would soil his great office. Again, Obama went on HIS show. Obviously he's not that small time. Where did I say "everyone" kid? Another lie by you inserted into the conversation to give you an excuse to flame? This style of yours to lie is very childish kid. Obama should not avoid anyone kid, I never said he should avoid people, just that as President of the United States he has to take control of these things. I guess you don't know but it is common practice for strong public personalities to set limits and restrictions on these little guys before they will appear on their shows to prevent these kinds of things from happening. They will actually have an appearance contract. Obama went on this idiots show and didn't even bother to put him in his place with the same kind of appearance contract even Oprah requires before she will allow an interview. The fact that Stewart took advantage of Obama's lack of planning and went so far to even be completely disrespectful shows just how small Stewart really is. I don't worship Stewart. I'm defending his interview against your puritanical vision of "respect". Bull, any idiot can see that when measured side by side, the respect level between comedian on a barely watched comedy show and the President of the United States "SHOULD" be a world apart. Stewart treated Obama as beneath him, that was the disrespect. He was saying "You haven't actually done what you've promised. You passed healthcare reform on top of the same corrupt system you promised to change." If you actually took time to read this, you'd understand. But the guy who talks trash behind others backs (while still claiming to respect them) can't possibly be bothered to do anything more than trash talk. Classic. And being so immature you missed the point in your desperation to defend your little entertainment god Stewart. Stewart twists the truth in politics just enough to make it funny, well funny to the immature crowd who watches his show. What "corrupt system" did Stewart think needed to be removed? The only thing Obama did not do is put the private healthcare companies out of business...is that what Stewart was complaining about? And if so, show me the direct quote from Obama saying he would put them out of business for Stewart to hold him accountable for? And someone probably will. Oh, and Stewart calling him "dude" like a nobody, that would really hurt Obama's campaign when even a nobody comedian stuck on the cartoon channel does not have any respect for Obama as the President either. Just loop him calling Obama dude and timid over and over, who wants a "timid dude" as President? Quote
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