Young Turk Cenk's rants

[phreakwars]

Oh I see, OBAMA sent the jobs over seas. Guess your short term memory loss forgot whom it was that voted AGAINST ending tax breaks for people who ship jobs overseas.

 

Let me refresh your memory..

 

IT WAS REPUBLICANS.

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[timesjoke]

Oh I see, OBAMA sent the jobs over seas. Guess your short term memory loss forgot whom it was that voted AGAINST ending tax breaks for people who ship jobs overseas.

 

Let me refresh your memory..

 

IT WAS REPUBLICANS.

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People only send jobs overseas because it was the Democrats who forced them to either move their operations overseas or go out of business Bender.

 

 

How can we compete when an American business has to spend millions in conforming to regulations other Countries do not impose? How do we compete when our business must spend ten times more for employees than the competition? Did you know retired UAW workers make way more money than a full time Nissan worker?

 

 

American business can have a slightly higher cost because other companies must pay for shipping to America, but the difference is so huge there is no way to compete.

 

 

 

 

But the oil thing is not about competing, we can compete and produce our own oil domestically, those are thriving, very high paying jobs for Americans and what does Obama do?

 

Obama kills them so he can make tree hugging Progressives happy.

[phreakwars]

People only send jobs overseas because it was the Democrats who forced them to either move their operations overseas

So all the jobs that went overseas in the last 10 years (mostly in 2001-2007) were the Democrats doing?

 

Refresh my memory... who was the President, and who controlled congress back then.

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[timesjoke]

People only send jobs overseas because it was the Democrats who forced them to either move their operations overseas

So all the jobs that went overseas in the last 10 years (mostly in 2001-2007) were the Democrats doing?

 

Refresh my memory... who was the President, and who controlled congress back then.

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10 years? No buddy, over the last 40 years it has been all powerful Unions and heavy handed Government buracrats that have plundered and over regulated the jobs out of America.

 

Sure, other things like NAFTA helped to kill American jobs, but I also was very vocal against Bush for signing it.

 

 

 

 

But nothing can compare to the destruction of jobs on a recent scale against the harms done by this Administration and it's new agenda through the EPA. Ending oil production was just the beginning.

 

Give this a little read:

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/quietest_jobs_killing_machine_xAlRo2nRYjtYKaWKAwe7fN

[phreakwars]

blah blah and more denial and blah...

 

Give this a little read:

 

http://www.nypost.co...RYjtYKaWKAwe7fN

Sorry, I don't read things that have the word "OPINION" in the URL.

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[timesjoke]

blah blah and more denial and blah...

 

Give this a little read:

 

http://www.nypost.co...RYjtYKaWKAwe7fN

Sorry, I don't read things that have the word "OPINION" in the URL.

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It appears you never read anything that does not prop up your own belief structure Bender.

 

You even tried to claim Obama never promised not to raise taxes, you seem to be the lest informed person on this forum next to Builder, I find it interesting you share the same political views, it seems being uninformed is the most common connection with Progressives.

 

 

 

 

 

One insidious force keeping unemployment high is regulatory uncertainty: Companies that could hire (or re-hire), don't -- because they're worried about what new restrictions will be coming down from Washington.

 

Congress bears much of the blame -- especially for the new "financial reform" law, which leaves so many details to be filled in later. But a major contributor to businesses' worries is the Obama Environmental Protection Agency, which is issuing a daily barrage of rules and regulations threatening jobs in American industry.

 

So concludes "EPA's Anti-Industrial Policy: Threatening Jobs and America's Manufacturing Base" -- a new report from the minority staff of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works (on which I serve as ranking member).

 

 

The report focuses on four of the EPA's most egregiously anti-business proposals and explains how they threaten American jobs and global competitiveness.

 

One example: the EPA's proposed rules for industrial boilers -- which the consulting firm IHS-Global Insight found could cost 800,000 jobs.

 

The United Steel Workers union says the proposal "will be sufficient to imperil the operating status of many industrial plants . . . Tens of thousands of these jobs will be imperiled . . . many more tens of thousands of jobs in the supply chains and in the communities where these plants are located also will be at risk."

 

Communities should also be bracing for new regulatory burdens from EPA's pending ozone decision. The Obama EPA is now expected to demand, in some areas, ozone levels lower than what occur naturally in the ambient air.

 

The economic impacts are sure to be disastrous. Nearly 600 counties across the nation could be in "non-attainment," which entails, among other things, draconian new regulations to lower emissions; loss of industry and economic development, including plant closures, and increased fuel and energy costs.

 

Several New York counties -- Monroe, Seneca, Fulton and Essex, among others -- are at risk of "non-attainment" status, meaning more job losses.

 

Unions for Jobs and the Environment, an organization of 12 national and international labor unions (including the United Mine Workers, the Teamsters and the Sheet Metal Workers) warns that the ozone rules "would lead to significant job losses across the country during a period of high unemployment."

 

The Obama administration clearly knows these numbers won't sell with the American public -- it has delayed announcement of the ozone rules from August to the end of this month, too late (it hopes) to register before Election Day.

 

The EPA adds insult to injury with its endangerment finding for greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act. This finding (issued after the Senate refused to pass a cap-and-trade bill for the fourth time in seven years) will lead to onerous new regulations potentially covering over 6 million sources in the economy.

 

According to the US Chamber of Commerce, the finding may "force" the EPA to regulate 260,000 office buildings, 150,000 warehouses, 92,000 health-care facilities, 71,000 hotels and motels, 51,000 food-service facilities, 37,000 churches and other places of worship and 17,000 farms. The regulations will pinch a vast range of industries -- including aluminum production, ammonia production, cement, iron, steel, lime, petrochemical, phosphoric acid production and pulp and paper manufacturing.

 

Yet, by EPA estimates, the net effect of these regulations would be to cut global mean temperature by about one-hun dredth of a degree by 2100.

 

Of course, reducing global warming is not the point. As the report shows, the EPA's proposals have negligible environmental benefits. Instead, they are the vanguard of President Obama's anti-industrial policy agenda -- pushing America's manufacturing base overseas.

 

As Americans continue to feel the economic pain of the recession and fear for their jobs, it's time for Congress to do its job: This agenda must be stopped.

[phreakwars]

You even tried to claim Obama never promised not to raise taxes

He didn't. He said "UNDER HIS PLAN"

 

Obviously, Republicans wouldn't go for his plan and his plan was never implemented.

 

The smoke tax is a non issue (unless you wanna cry about smokers paying too much), and the tan tax was part of the healthcare plan by congress, not Obama.

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[phreakwars]

It appears you never read anything that does not prop up your own belief structure Bender.

No, I don't read anything with the word "OPINION" in it.

 

You know what they say about opinions being like assholes don't ya?

 

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what you typed and never read it because it's quite simply... TOO FUCKING LONG DIDN'T READ.

 

Like I'm gonna read 26 paragraphs of your long drawn out bullshit? Hell no. Your lucky if I get through 2 paragraphs without clicking on another link or switch tabs & play farmville.

 

I tend to skip over ANYBODY who does that, so don't think your special.

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[ImWithStupid]

You even tried to claim Obama never promised not to raise taxes

He didn't. He said "UNDER HIS PLAN"

 

Obviously, Republicans wouldn't go for his plan and his plan was never implemented.

 

The smoke tax is a non issue (unless you wanna cry about smokers paying too much), and the tan tax was part of the healthcare plan by congress, not Obama.

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What Republicans?

 

For one year, Obama didn't need a single Republican vote to pass anything he wanted. If the Obama/progressive agenda is to save the world, why isn't the US a utopia yet?

 

Answer. Just like with every other time the Progressives came to power and people actually saw what they wanted to do, not what they promised/lied about, they rejected it.

[phreakwars]

Answer. Just like with every other time the Progressives came to power and Republicans in bed with insurance lobbyists actually saw what they wanted to do, not what they promised/lied about, they filibustered it.

 

Fixed.

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[timesjoke]

You even tried to claim Obama never promised not to raise taxes

He didn't. He said "UNDER HIS PLAN"

 

Obviously, Republicans wouldn't go for his plan and his plan was never implemented.

 

The smoke tax is a non issue (unless you wanna cry about smokers paying too much), and the tan tax was part of the healthcare plan by congress, not Obama.

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BS, he was still making that claim about his plan after it was passed.

 

And Obama made the same promise all during his campaign about not raising taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.

[phreakwars]

His plan was NEVER implemented, how many fucking times do I have to say it?

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[ImWithStupid]

Answer. Just like with every other time the Progressives came to power and Republicans in bed with insurance lobbyists actually saw what they wanted to do, not what they promised/lied about, they filibustered it.

 

Fixed.

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More like, completely false.

 

For one year, the Republicans couldn't block anything if the Dems wanted to pass it. Filibuster proof Senate, 60 seat majority. Remember?

[timesjoke]

His plan was NEVER implemented, how many fucking times do I have to say it?

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I don't care how many times you tell that lie, it is not true.

 

 

It was his plan 100%. Republicans were completely shut out of the creation of this bill/law and all of the back room deals and special gifts to Unions were ordered specifically by Obama.

 

 

Even after promising to make jobs his first priority, Obama broke that promise, set job creation aside, and dive back into creating his healthcare bill that was later passed into law. This is all Obama, there is nothing in this bill that was not approved and signed off on by Obama.

 

 

 

Obama did sign it, don't forget that fact Bender. If this bill was not what he promised to give Americans, why did he sign it? Obama made the promises and by signing this law he broke his promises so he did this with his eyes wide open.