The Obama alternative

[jokersarewild]

A doctor gave a man six months to live. The man couldn't pay his bill, so he gave him another six months. -

 

Henny Youngman

[atlantic]

Wow Phreak! I am impressed. I never thought I'd hear you say you like Palin. I feel the exact same way too. I saw her shows also, and love this woman. She is the real deal. I would def vote for her too. I would love to see a Romney/Palin run, but would be fine with Palin.

[hugo]

Wow Phreak! I am impressed. I never thought I'd hear you say you like Palin. I feel the exact same way too. I saw her shows also, and love this woman. She is the real deal. I would def vote for her too. I would love to see a Romney/Palin run, but would be fine with Palin.

Phreak was being sarcastic. Palin is an idiot.

[jokersarewild]

Wow Phreak! I am impressed. I never thought I'd hear you say you like Palin. I feel the exact same way too. I saw her shows also, and love this woman. She is the real deal. I would def vote for her too. I would love to see a Romney/Palin run, but would be fine with Palin.

 

Haha. HAHAHAHA. Man, I hope you're just being sarcastic. Like Hugo said, Palin's a moron.

[hugo]

Wow Phreak! I am impressed. I never thought I'd hear you say you like Palin. I feel the exact same way too. I saw her shows also, and love this woman. She is the real deal. I would def vote for her too. I would love to see a Romney/Palin run, but would be fine with Palin.

 

Haha. HAHAHAHA. Man, I hope you're just being sarcastic. Like Hugo said, Palin's a moron.

 

Thinking about voting for Snooki.

[atlantic]

^^^^^ LOL Hugo :woot:

[atlantic]

As far as Palin goes. She at least seems to be for the people. Not for her own personal agenda. Despite all the polls telling the government that people want less ridiculous spending and free hand-outs & amnesty nobody but the Republican party seems to be listening right now and that is just simple fact. Here's a thought, maybe they know something they are not telling us, because there seems to be no regard for our financial future. I mean really unemployment for 3 years, is that really going to help people in the future? Are their jobs really going to come back? I doubt it. So yes, the more I read up on Sarah Palin, the more I like her.

[atlantic]

I also like Donald Trump's ideas for saving this country. The fact that we have become China's bitch isn't a good thing

[ImWithStupid]

you won't find a more viable candidate any more communist

 

Here is where the argument is LOST and just so QUICK into the debate.

 

It's lost because you SIMPLY can not, and will not answer it because you have no answer, you will instead pontificate and change the subject when I query for an extended elaboration and example. The question being simply.....

 

What Communist actions?

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Many Russian immigrants to the “red borough” of Staten Island are flocking to the Republican Party, saying that the national Democrats’ “socialistic” policies remind them too much of the top-down oligarchy they fled in their native land.With many of the borough’s Russian arrivees already owning businesses and active in civic organizations, their muscle could help the Island GOP solidify electoral gains made this year, when the party took back congressional and Assembly seats.

 

Businessman Arkadiy Fridman said that the newly formed Citizens Magazine Business Club, a confederation of more than 50 Russian-owned businesses here and in Brooklyn, has aligned itself with the Molinari Republican Club (MRC) in an effort to increase the Russian community’s political and economic clout. . . . Fridman said that the Democrats “are going in an absolutely different direction,” focusing on “income redistribution” and rich-versus-poor “class war.”

 

“It’s too socialistic,” said Fridman, head of the non-profit Staten Island Community Center and president of Citizens Magazine, a public affairs publication. “It’s very painful for us to see.”

 

The Democrats’ national losses were seen as a rejection of President Barack Obama’s health care reform law and other initiatives that opponents say went too far in pushing government control on Americans. The Big Brother approach reminds Fridman too much of what he left behind in the former Soviet Union.

 

“It’s the same rule like it was there,” said Fridman, who estimates there are around 55,000 Russian immigrants here.

 

 

 

Michael Petrov of the Digital Edge data management firm in Bloomfield, said that he objects to the “micro-managing of the economy” he’s seen from city as well as federal officials.

 

“Government is affecting small business more and more,” said Petrov, who came to the United States in 1994. “It’s the same as what’s happening in Russia.”

 

The Citizens Club, formed earlier this month, looks to support and grow local businesses here; introduce Russian firms to the borough’s existing business and political communities, and promote Russian community representatives to serve in elected office. . . . Brooklyn attorney David Storovin said that the fact that the MRC is made up of business professionals “who are successful in their own right,” also made the match an attractive one.

 

He said that he and other Russian immigrants are also drawn to the GOP’s traditional veneration of flag and country.

 

 

http://www.silive.co...ligning_wi.html

[hugo]

As far as Palin goes. She at least seems to be for the people. Not for her own personal agenda. Despite all the polls telling the government that people want less ridiculous spending and free hand-outs & amnesty nobody but the Republican party seems to be listening right now and that is just simple fact. Here's a thought, maybe they know something they are not telling us, because there seems to be no regard for our financial future. I mean really unemployment for 3 years, is that really going to help people in the future? Are their jobs really going to come back? I doubt it. So yes, the more I read up on Sarah Palin, the more I like her.

Palin raised taxes in order to give every Alaskan a welfare check.

[atlantic]

OMG Hugo. I'll let Snafu answer that one. Now I have to go do more research - Thanks! I really above all other choices do favor Mitt Romney or Donald Trump.

[jokersarewild]

OMG Hugo. I'll let Snafu answer that one. Now I have to go do more research - Thanks! I really above all other choices do favor Mitt Romney or Donald Trump.

 

I'd favor the business-minded if I believed for even a moment it would work. The problem is that you can't run a government like a business. It wasn't designed to be some sort of capitalistic venture. We had the same problem here in California. Ahnold tried to run it as one would a business (same thing Meg Whitman ran on). It didn't work. The government doesn't sell you a product. It doesn't have a marketing team to get you to buy in to it. You're already there, whether you like it or not. Most politicians cave to the fact that unpopular, but tough and worthwhile, decisions are often career ending ones. So I guess if you can overcome the pussification, it might work.

[atlantic]

I wouldn't call Ahnold a business minded person. He can't think outside the box like Donald Trump can. Donald Trump isn't a cat either. We also need someone who is security minded. Security in this country is not top priorty. We need someone who cares about rebuilding America's economy, while ensuring our nation is protected. The fact that terrorists are training the Cartels in Mexico should be worrisome to this nation, yet, their only suggestion is The Dream Act. Wake up people. The problem with California is it is overrun with illegal immigrants who collect from the welfare system, work under the table, and don't pay taxes. The root of the problem on the West Coast are the illegals. I had neighbors in Az who had at least 10 people living in their house, the two youngest daughters 14 & 16 both had babies, dealt drugs and collected welfare. Once a solution to that problem can be solved, we can look forward to stabilizing. Maybe a revision to the dream act could be to step up the application & approval process, I'm sure Obama could appoint a czar for organizing a sect that could concentrate on that issue solely; make sure people are screened throughly so they can then become tax paying citizens and deal with reality like the rest of us.

[jokersarewild]

I wouldn't call Ahnold a business minded person. He can't think outside the box like Donald Trump can. Donald Trump isn't a cat either. We also need someone who is security minded. Security in this country is not top priorty. We need someone who cares about rebuilding America's economy, while ensuring our nation is protected. The fact that terrorists are training the Cartels in Mexico should be worrisome to this nation, yet, their only suggestion is The Dream Act. Wake up people. The problem with California is it is overrun with illegal immigrants who collect from the welfare system, work under the table, and don't pay taxes. The root of the problem on the West Coast are the illegals. I had neighbors in Az who had at least 10 people living in their house, the two youngest daughters 14 & 16 both had babies, dealt drugs and collected welfare. Once a solution to that problem can be solved, we can look forward to stabilizing. Maybe a revision to the dream act could be to step up the application & approval process, I'm sure Obama could appoint a czar for organizing a sect that could concentrate on that issue solely; make sure people are screened throughly so they can then become tax paying citizens and deal with reality like the rest of us.

 

He's not really business-minded, no. But he campaigned on running California like a business.

 

Yes, Illegals are an issue. A big issue. They are leeches. Get 'em all registered right quick so we can tax them. I doubt that'll happen, but hey, anything's possible.

 

Also, a 14 year old with a kid is disgusting. She should have the kid taken away, esp. if she's on welfare.

[atlantic]

You're right JAW!

[phreakwars]

you won't find a more viable candidate any more communist

 

Here is where the argument is LOST and just so QUICK into the debate.

 

It's lost because you SIMPLY can not, and will not answer it because you have no answer, you will instead pontificate and change the subject when I query for an extended elaboration and example. The question being simply.....

 

What Communist actions?

.

.

 

Many Russian immigrants to the “red borough” of Staten Island are flocking to the Republican Party, saying that the national Democrats’ “socialistic” policies remind them too much of the top-down oligarchy they fled in their native land.With many of the borough’s Russian arrivees already owning businesses and active in civic organizations, their muscle could help the Island GOP solidify electoral gains made this year, when the party took back congressional and Assembly seats.

 

Businessman Arkadiy Fridman said that the newly formed Citizens Magazine Business Club, a confederation of more than 50 Russian-owned businesses here and in Brooklyn, has aligned itself with the Molinari Republican Club (MRC) in an effort to increase the Russian community’s political and economic clout. . . . Fridman said that the Democrats “are going in an absolutely different direction,” focusing on “income redistribution” and rich-versus-poor “class war.”

 

“It’s too socialistic,” said Fridman, head of the non-profit Staten Island Community Center and president of Citizens Magazine, a public affairs publication. “It’s very painful for us to see.”

 

The Democrats’ national losses were seen as a rejection of President Barack Obama’s health care reform law and other initiatives that opponents say went too far in pushing government control on Americans. The Big Brother approach reminds Fridman too much of what he left behind in the former Soviet Union.

 

“It’s the same rule like it was there,” said Fridman, who estimates there are around 55,000 Russian immigrants here.

 

 

 

Michael Petrov of the Digital Edge data management firm in Bloomfield, said that he objects to the “micro-managing of the economy” he’s seen from city as well as federal officials.

 

“Government is affecting small business more and more,” said Petrov, who came to the United States in 1994. “It’s the same as what’s happening in Russia.”

 

The Citizens Club, formed earlier this month, looks to support and grow local businesses here; introduce Russian firms to the borough’s existing business and political communities, and promote Russian community representatives to serve in elected office. . . . Brooklyn attorney David Storovin said that the fact that the MRC is made up of business professionals “who are successful in their own right,” also made the match an attractive one.

 

He said that he and other Russian immigrants are also drawn to the GOP’s traditional veneration of flag and country.

 

 

http://www.silive.co...ligning_wi.html

Great opinion piece... is there ANYTHING SPECIFIC there?? All I see is accusations and rhetoric.

 

Short summary of what that just said:

 

Oh yeah, their socialists, don't ask for anything specific or any examples, just take my word for it... believe me because I say so... yep socialists... don't ask for any real proof or any kind of data to back it up... just saying it... proof enough..

 

That's all I read. :whistling:

 

If I'm wrong, then site the proof & or example in the quote, color it red so it stands out.

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[jokersarewild]

I wouldn't call Ahnold a business minded person. He can't think outside the box like Donald Trump can. Donald Trump isn't a cat either. We also need someone who is security minded. Security in this country is not top priorty. We need someone who cares about rebuilding America's economy, while ensuring our nation is protected. The fact that terrorists are training the Cartels in Mexico should be worrisome to this nation, yet, their only suggestion is The Dream Act. Wake up people. The problem with California is it is overrun with illegal immigrants who collect from the welfare system, work under the table, and don't pay taxes. The root of the problem on the West Coast are the illegals. I had neighbors in Az who had at least 10 people living in their house, the two youngest daughters 14 & 16 both had babies, dealt drugs and collected welfare. Once a solution to that problem can be solved, we can look forward to stabilizing. Maybe a revision to the dream act could be to step up the application & approval process, I'm sure Obama could appoint a czar for organizing a sect that could concentrate on that issue solely; make sure people are screened throughly so they can then become tax paying citizens and deal with reality like the rest of us.

 

An addition:

 

$533.8 billion in DoD spending. The request for the DoD in 2011 is $721.3 billion. So we're in debt up to our eyeballs, the US (and our closest allies) account for between 66% and 75% of military spending (of which the majority is the US), and we aren't spending enough on security?

 

Methinks we can afford a cut.

[Nosey Parker]

will the democrats exist in 2 years or the republicans???

 

..whatever will be, will be...

[atlantic]

It will be the Republicans. Most Americans are out of work now so they have plenty of time to vote Seriously though, Canada just lowered their Corporate tax rate again, yet we are still at 35%. Why?????

[jokersarewild]

will the democrats exist in 2 years or the republicans???

 

..whatever will be, will be...

 

That makes no sense.

[builder]

will the democrats exist in 2 years or the republicans???

 

..whatever will be, will be...

 

That makes no sense.

 

Niether does politics in general, JAW, but let's move on, shall we?

 

I still see no clear winner in the stakes of which conservative candidate could be a viable alternative to the current administrator, that being a Kenyan half-breed, with an impeccable and seemingly flawless academic resume.

[jokersarewild]

will the democrats exist in 2 years or the republicans???

 

..whatever will be, will be...

 

That makes no sense.

 

Niether does politics in general, JAW, but let's move on, shall we?

 

I still see no clear winner in the stakes of which conservative candidate could be a viable alternative to the current administrator, that being a Kenyan half-breed, with an impeccable and seemingly flawless academic resume.

 

Well, I hear Hawaii will issue Certificates of Live Birth to any foreigner these days, so just get somebody from out of the US, create an academic record, and boom, he's the president. Simple.

[atlantic]

I really have to say, Donald Trump is looking better to me everyday. He is a financial genius, and also understands who our allies really are. He is strong enough to do what is right for this country. I want the Donald, and if we can't have him, then Mitt Romney. Otherwise it's not looking good for this country.

[jokersarewild]

I really have to say, Donald Trump is looking better to me everyday. He is a financial genius, and also understands who our allies really are. He is strong enough to do what is right for this country. I want the Donald, and if we can't have him, then Mitt Romney. Otherwise it's not looking good for this country.

 

The financial genius who's Casino companies keep filing for bankruptcy? He's been sued for his outstanding debts he can't pay. Financial Genius, he is not.

 

The LAST thing we need is somebody who can't keep their own companies from going into bankruptcy to be given the chance to run a country into the ground. I can almost promise Obama would be re-elected over this sorry bag of mismanaged finances and horrible hair.

[jokersarewild]

I really have to say, Donald Trump is looking better to me everyday. He is a financial genius, and also understands who our allies really are. He is strong enough to do what is right for this country. I want the Donald, and if we can't have him, then Mitt Romney. Otherwise it's not looking good for this country.

 

The financial genius who's Casino companies keep filing for bankruptcy? He's been sued for his outstanding debts he can't pay. Financial Genius, he is not.

 

The LAST thing we need is somebody who can't keep their own companies from going into bankruptcy to be given the chance to run a country into the ground. I can almost promise Obama would be re-elected over this sorry bag of mismanaged finances and horrible hair.