Obama gives progressives the finger and switches political parties

[atlantic]

In the era of globalization being poorly educated ain't good for individuals or nations.

 

What's sad, is thanks to defunding, todays generation, is actually dumber then the last.

 

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Defunding what?

 

Not education. Since 1970 spending per student have sky rocketed, but scores haven't improved.

 

 

 

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Not in all states, Az is right at the bottom. I guess it all depends where you live.

[atlantic]

Obama is doing what he has to in order to push through tax cuts for the middle class, and lower earning class. I'm not too happy about extending unemployment for even longer, especially since it means my chain-smoking alcoholic neighbor Dave who has already been collecting for like 2 years already, who now always needs rides due to DUI and thinks I'm Ms. Daisy is around. I am also not happy with the Democratic party either, and for Harry Reid to be pushing the Dream Act when clearly there is a financial crisis going on is infuriating. I wish I could collect for 3 years, which is shy of a college education.

 

My answer to where are the jobs? Well most of them are in other countries now - period. This country doesn't manufacturer too much anymore. Hell you can't even call customer service and not get someone in Canada (no offense Emkay, I loves me the Canada) or India. So if you are not in the health field you have no guarantees.

 

I think it might take a Trump or a Romney to turn this country around.

[atlantic]

Here's a program:

 

SS age remains 65.

 

Raise benefits to where the elderly can live comfortably.

 

Euthanasia at 70.

 

You get to spend the last 5 years of your life living well, probably spending the majority of your money on things other than food and necessities (like large TVs and the like), and then when it's your time to go, one last meal, one last good lay, and out you go.

 

I would campaign on that right there.

JAW - awesome! Seriously though, I had a step-grandfather (who was a complete wee-wee and wouldn't put it past him if he was a serial killer) live to the ripe old age of 99, he was collecting a huge check every month from ssi. I can guarantee you he didn't pay that much into it. He was blind and in terrible shape when he died, I think he was that way for years. My question is what is the point of this. My grandmother, had a stroke and she is now living with my mother and my grandmother is 90 something. She is now getting the huge ssi check, and sends most of the money to my drunk-ass uncle who never supported his own chiildren.

 

The system will eventually run out/collapse. It cannot handle the expense of seniors who are living to the ages of 90, not to mention the huge influx of people fleeing to this country - which lately confuses me. Newsflash people, our economy is collapsing or hadn't you noticed. I actually knew some people from Mexico who had no desire to come here - they said too expensive and no work - lol.

[builder]

Remember, most people who share your political leanings don't currently pay any federal taxes now, they draw out massive amounts of aid from the Federal Government but pay nothing in.

 

Hey TJ.. doesn't your son collect a monthly check from the federal government, and receive free government housing and free government healthcare just like you did after the failure of your worm farm? Where's that money come from?

 

Please explain..

 

Tj had a worm farm that failed? OMFG. What happened, Tj? Did you feed them your own detritus or something? How does a bloke fail at worm farming?

 

Too progressive, or something?

[ImWithStupid]

What the hell was THAT? All those links linked to is shit about the mortgage financial crisis, which has NOTHING to do with business shutting down. What, did bosses fire employees who couldn't make mortgage payments? Did banks forclose on business' because they were bad business deals made to people who bought homes? GET REAL MAN. There is one VERY huge hole in the whole Fannie and Freddie did it theory... FANNIE AND FREDDIE ARE HOME LENDERS, NOT BUSINESS LENDERS.

 

That Fannie and Freddie meme is horse shit Republican blame game talk about something completely unrelated to America losing it's industrial sector. The banks could have very easily switched liquid assets into the industrial sector and avoided the housing sector, but they didn't, they got greedy.

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Reminds me of one of my favorite Ronald Reagan quotes...

 

 

Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so. ~ Ronald Reagan

 

I sure hope this helps you get a basic grasp of the economy and how bad mortgage loans triggered the economic downturn...

 

 

On May 20, 2009, Public Law No. 111-21, the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009, was enacted into law, creating the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC). According to the Act, the FCIC was established to "examine the causes, domestic and global, of the current financial and economic crisis in the United States." The law requires that today, December 15, 2010, the FCIC submit "to the President and to the Congress a report containing the findings and conclusions of the Commission on the causes of the current financial and economic crisis in the United States."

 

This primer contains preliminary findings and conclusions released by Vice Chairman Bill Thomas, Commissioner Keith Hennessey, Commissioner Douglas Holtz-Eakin, and Commissioner Peter J. Wallison, and represents a portion of the findings and conclusions resulting from our work on the FCIC. As the transmission of the report of the FCIC to the President and Congress requires a majority vote of the Commission, these findings and conclusions do not constitute the Commission's report. Rather, this document is an effort to reflect the clear intention of our enabling legislation.

 

 

http://www.aei.org/d...risisPrimer.pdf

[phreakwars]

http://www.aei.org/d...risisPrimer.pdf

 

Yeah, nice OPINION PIECE from yet another Republican think tank.

 

http://www.sourcewat...prise_Institute

 

Explain why Freddie & Fannie still have 90% of their loans still out there and still solid investments.

 

10% of their loans were crap and that caused the housing bubble?

 

The Republican think tanks "blame the poor" excuse doesn't hold water, neither does their "BLAME THE LIBERALS/EVIL GOVERNMENT" agenda report..

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[ImWithStupid]

http://www.aei.org/d...risisPrimer.pdf

 

Yeah, nice OPINION PIECE from yet another Republican think tank.

 

http://www.sourcewat...prise_Institute

 

Explain why Freddie & Fannie still have 90% of their loans still out there and still solid investments.

 

10% of their loans were crap and that caused the housing bubble?

 

The Republican think tanks "blame the poor" excuse doesn't hold water, neither does their "BLAME THE LIBERALS/EVIL GOVERNMENT" agenda report..

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I see you once again didn't read it or your bias made you see it as a Republican think tank piece.

 

Oh well, you can't force the blind to see.

[ImWithStupid]

[phreakwars]

I see you once again didn't read it or your bias made you see it as a Republican think tank piece.

 

Oh well, you can't force the blind to see.

 

No, it is BECAUSE I read it, that I know it is bullshit. And it is also because of where it came from that I am UNBIASED.

 

TELL ME that isn't a right wing think tank you got the info from.

 

I should just take their word for it because they put it in a .pdf file and called it research?

 

If I accept THAT BS, I might as well watch Fox News ( an admitted arm of the GOP ) and say they are accurate.

 

And no commentary on why 90% of Freddie & Fanny's loans are still solid yet their to blame?

 

I apologize if my pondering drives things DEEPER then just Freddie or Fanny and yours stops right there. Must be your superior right wing skills of only looking at one thing and not seeing the other shit around you, like you claimed here: http://Off Topic Forum.com/topic/35177-science-prove-that-sheeple-exist

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[ImWithStupid]

I see you once again didn't read it or your bias made you see it as a Republican think tank piece.

 

Oh well, you can't force the blind to see.

 

No, it is BECAUSE I read it, that I know it is bullshit. And it is also because of where it came from that I am UNBIASED.

 

You've never been unbiased on anything political. You've been inconsistent, wrong, maybe right, but never unbiased.

 

TELL ME that isn't a right wing think tank you got the info from.

 

I should just take their word for it because they put it in a .pdf file and called it research?

 

 

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The facts of the issue make it a non-right wing think tank. First off it was a committee established in May of 2009. Tell me who was in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches of the government in May of 2009?

 

Second. It is the report from the 4 out of 10 members of the committee who even made a report as Congress required. I would love to hear the opinion of the Democrats on the committee, but as the Democrats didn't even bother to release a report as required BY LAW, kind of like it wasn't necessary for this Democratic Congress to do the basic requirements of their job and come up with a budget in 2010.

[phreakwars]

The facts of the issue make it a non-right wing think tank.

No, the "facts" are "ACCORDING TO THIS RIGHT WINGER"

 

First off it was a committee established in May of 2009.

A right wing comitee

 

Tell me who was in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches of the government in May of 2009?

Tell me, is it, whoever is in charge, are the ones who get to choose comitees? Uh.. NO. IRRELEVANT INFO and digression.

 

Second. It is the report from the 4 out of 10 members of the committee

All right wingers

 

 

who even made a report as Congress required.

So it MUST be the truth?

 

I would love to hear the opinion of the Democrats on the committee, but as the Democrats didn't even bother to release a report as required BY LAW,

So since they didn't release an "official" type report, we must ONLY take the word of the "official right wing" version?

 

kind of like it wasn't necessary for this Democratic Congress to do the basic requirements of their job and come up with a budget in 2010.

This is called changing the topic because you have nothing more relevant to offer about the original one, it is a diversionary tactic meant to spur commentary on an unrelated incident.

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[ImWithStupid]

The facts of the issue make it a non-right wing think tank.

No, the "facts" are "ACCORDING TO THIS RIGHT WINGER"

 

First off it was a committee established in May of 2009.

A right wing comitee

 

Tell me who was in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches of the government in May of 2009?

Tell me, is it, whoever is in charge, are the ones who get to choose comitees? Uh.. NO. IRRELEVANT INFO and digression.

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I see you still have no IDEA how government works. Yes. In Congress, whoever is in charge does get to decide the makeup of committees.

 

They decide who is the head of the committee. They have the majority on every committee. They decide what gets introduced and who gets to testify in the committee.

 

I know I said in another post that I could tolerate the stupid more than the ignorant, but I swear I can only handle one TJ at a time.

[phreakwars]

So, the minority party doesn't get to make their own committees? But that's unfair!! Are you sure?

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[ImWithStupid]

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