Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Might not be anti-American but you have to be a fuckin' moron. Muslims also committed genocide against the native americans. There you go again, blaming Muslims for Americas faults. Like you did to the Blacks. Like you are doing to Muslims and Hispanics. Like you have done to the Japanese. Like Hitler did to the Jews. Just like the Native Americans, or to you the "Redskins". Lets not go down that line. Especially with Americas Native American relations. Native American Genocide Still Haunts United States By Leah Trabich Cold Spring Harbor High School New York, USA In the past, the main thrust of the Holocaust/Genocide Project's magazine, An End To Intolerance, has been the genocides that occurred in history and outside of the United States. Still, what we mustn't forget is that mass killing of Native Americans occurred in our own country. As a result, bigotry and racial discrimination still exist. "In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue" . . . and made the first contact with the "Indians." For Native Americans, the world after 1492 would never be the same. This date marked the beginning of the long road of persecution and genocide of Native Americans, our indigenous people. Genocide was an important cause of the decline for many tribes. "By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand. In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years, five million were dead. Las Casas, the primary historian of the Columbian era, writes of many accounts of the horrors that the Spanish colonists inflicted upon the indigenous population: hanging them en mass, hacking their children into pieces to be used as dog feed, and other horrid cruelties. The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today. Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed. Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. "Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians. The Removal Act of 1830 set into motion a series of events which led to the "Trail of Tears" in 1838, a forced march of the Cherokees, resulting in the destruction of most of the Cherokee population." The concentration of American Indians in small geographic areas, and the scattering of them from their homelands, caused increased death, primarily because of associated military actions, disease, starvation, extremely harsh conditions during the moves, and the resulting destruction of ways of life. During American expansion into the western frontier, one primary effort to destroy the Indian way of life was the attempts of the U.S. government to make farmers and cattle ranchers of the Indians. In addition, one of the most substantial methods was the premeditated destructions of flora and fauna which the American Indians used for food and a variety of other purposes. We now also know that the Indians were intentionally exposed to smallpox by Europeans. The discovery of gold in California, early in 1848, prompted American migration and expansion into the west. The greed of Americans for money and land was rejuvenated with the Homestead Act of 1862. In California and Texas there was blatant genocide of Indians by non-Indians during certain historic periods. In California, the decrease from about a quarter of a million to less than 20,000 is primarily due to the cruelties and wholesale massacres perpetrated by the miners and early settlers. Indian education began with forts erected by Jesuits, in which indigenous youths were incarcerated, indoctrinated with non-indigenous Christian values, and forced into manual labor. These children were forcibly removed from their parents by soldiers and many times never saw their families until later in their adulthood. This was after their value systems and knowledge had been supplanted with colonial thinking. One of the foundations of the U.S. imperialist strategy was to replace traditional leadership of the various indigenous nations with indoctrinated "graduates" of white "schools," in order to expedite compliance with U.S. goals and expansion. Probably one of the most ruinous acts to the Indians was the disappearance of the buffalo. For the Indians who lived on the Plains, life depended on the buffalo. At the beginning of the nineteenth century, there were an estimated forty million buffalo, but between 1830 and 1888 there was a rapid, systematic extermination culminating in the sudden slaughter of the only two remaining Plain herds. By around 1895, the formerly vast buffalo populations were practically extinct. The slaughter occurred because of the economic value of buffalo hides to Americans and because the animals were in the way of the rapidly westward expanding population. The end result was widescale starvation and the social and cultural disintegration of many Plains tribes. Genocide entered international law for the first time in 1948; the international community took notice when Europeans (Jews, Poles, and other victims of Nazi Germany) faced cultural extinction. The "Holocaust" of World War II came to be the model of genocide. We, as the human race, must realize, however, that other genocides have occurred. Genocide against many particular groups is still widely happening today. The discrimination of the Native American population is only one example of this ruthless destruction. Credits: Sharon Johnston, The Genocide of Native Americans: A Sociological View, 1996. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 We all know Muslims were responsible for the genocide of the native american and right wing albinos were responsible for 9/11. Ignore the propaganda that tells you otherwise. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 And yet even more information... In the long history of the European colonization of North America, the term "Indian massacre" was often used to describe mass killings of European-Americans ("whites") by Native Americans ("Indians")and mass killings of American Indians by whites. In theory, massacre applied to the killing of civilian noncombatants or to the summary execution of prisoners-of-war. In practice, the label was often haphazardly applied, rarely without bias, and was sometimes used to describe an overwhelming (though lawful) military defeat. Similarly, massacres were sometimes mislabeled "battles" in an attempt to give legitimacy to what would today be considered a war crime. Determining how many people died in these massacres overall is difficult. In the book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans, and 7,193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by whites. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded and prisoners. Different definitions would obviously produce different totals. For example, Osborn does not count Indian deaths on the Trail of Tears (because these were allegedly unintentional), but he does count several episodes of post-mortem mutilation, even of combatants killed in open battle. Osborn's exact total of 16,349 killed on both sides can therefore be disputed. [edit] List of massacres A list of the larger or more notorious events in North America known as massacres: Year Date Name 1500-1600s sustained Massive Killing by European Infectious Diseases Smallpox (1525, 1558, 1589), typhus (1546), influenza (1558), diptheria (1614) and measles (1618) epidemics sweep ahead of European contact killing between 10 million and 110 million indigenous peoples of the Americas in the largest mass killing of humans ever. [1] 1622 March 22 Jamestown Massacre Powhatans kill three hundred and forty-seven English settlers throughout the Virginia colony. 1637 May 26 Mystic Massacre English colonists, with Mohegan and Narragansett allies, attack a large Pequot village on the Mystic River in what is now Connecticut, killing around five hundred villagers. 1690 February 8 French and Iroquois destroy Schenectady, New York, killing sixty settlers, including ten women and at least twelve children. 1704 February 29 Deerfield Massacre A force comprised of Abenaki, Kanienkehaka, Wyandot and Pocumtuck Indians, led by a small contingent of French-Canadian militia, sack the town of Deerfield, Massachusetts, killing fifty-six civilians and taking dozens more as captives. 1757 August Following the fall of Fort William Henry, between seventy and one hundred and eighty British and colonial prisoners are killed by Indian allies of the French. 1778 July 3 Wyoming Valley Massacre Following a battle with Patriot defenders of Forty Fort, Iroquois allies of the Loyalist forces hunt and kill those who flee, then torture those who surrendered to death. August 31 Stockbridge Massacre A battle of the American Revolutionary War that rebel propaganda portrays as a massacre. November 11 Cherry Valley Massacre More than thirty settlers killed. 1782 March 8 Gnadenh Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Hamza is truly dumber than toast. We all know his propaganda is BS. Muslims destroyed the native americans. He can't admit it. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 The good news for Muslims is it was Girl Scouts who were responsible for 9/11. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 We all know Muslims were responsible for the genocide of the native american and right wing albinos were responsible for 9/11. Ignore the propaganda that tells you otherwise. Trying to get me to fall for your trap so you can get me to call you a conspiracy theorist? Fuck you. Muslims have not conducted genocide on the Native American. Americans have conducted genocide on Iraqis and Afghans, and played a majore role on the Genocide of Palestinians. Thats a known fact. The body count says it all. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Hamza is truly dumber than toast. We all know his propaganda is BS. Muslims destroyed the native americans. He can't admit it. What evidence do you have? What a perposterous claim... Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 The good news for Muslims is it was Girl Scouts who were responsible for 9/11. No, simply put, Right Wankers were. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Shut the fuck up and debate or get smacked the fuck up. You seem to like option B. Native American Muslims The Message, July 1996 My name is Mahir Abdal-Razzaaq El and I am a Cherokee Blackfoot American Indian who is Muslim. I am known as Eagle Sun Walker. I serve as a Pipe Carrier Warrior for the Northeastern Band of Cherokee Indians in New York City. There are other Muslims in our group. For the most part, not many people are aware of the Native American contact with Islam that began over one thousand years ago by some of the early Muslim travelers who visited us. Some of these Muslim travelers ended up living among our people. For most Muslims and non-Muslims of today, this type of information is unknown and has never been mentioned in any of the history books. There are many documents, treaties, legislation and resolutions that were passed between 1600s and 1800s that show that Muslims were in fact here and were very active in the comunities in which they lived. Treaties such as Peace and Friendship that was signed on the Delaware River in the year 1787 bear the signatures of Abdel-Khak and Muhammad Ibn Abdullah. This treaty detailes our continued right to exist as a community in the areas of commerce, maritime shipping, current form of government at that time which was in accordance with Islam. According to a federal court case from the Continental Congress, we help put the breath of life in to the newly framed constitution. All of the documents are presently in the National Archives as well as the Library of Congress. If you have access to records in the state of South Carolina, read the Moors Sundry Act of 1790. In a future article, Inshallah, I will go in to more details about the various tribes, their languages; in which some are influenced by Arabic, Persian, Hebrew words. Almost all of the tribes vocabulary include the word Allah. The traditional dress code for Indian women includes the kimah and long dresses. For men, standard fare is turbans and long tops that come down to the knees. If you were to look at any of the old books on Cherokee clothing up until the time of 1832, you will see the men wearing turbans and the women wearing long head coverings. The last Cherokee chief who had a Muslim name was Ramadhan Ibn Wati of the Cherokees in 1866. Cities across the United States and Canada bear names that are of Indian and Islamic derivation. Have you ever wondered what the name Tallahassee means? It means that He Allah will deliver you sometime in the future. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Custer, Columbus, Andrew Jackson just 3 of the many Muslims responsible for the genocide of the native american. Sad, quite sad. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Custer, Columbus, Andrew Jackson just 3 of the many Muslims responsible for the genocide of the native american. Sad, quite sad. And whats funny is that NONE are/were Muslim. Are you okay? How many beers have you had? Are you baked? Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Muslims were also responsible for the fire on board Apollo 1. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Muslims also were responsible for wiping out most of Muhammads descendents. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Muslims also shot JFK. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 John Wilkes Booth was a Muslim. So was Sirhan Sirhan. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Muslims were responsible for the San Francisco earthquake of 1906. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Sweet... Useless spam. You really need a life. Not just any life either. I mean another person in your life. MODs? Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 It is aborigines and bushmen killing each other in the Sudan. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 It is aborigines and bushmen killing each other in the Sudan. Ill only use a sentence. A certain part of the American public is respsonsible for the Genocide of Muslims on their own soil. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Ain't alternative history fun? I see the nut who argues a plane did not hit the Pentagon and that Muslims were not responsible for 9/11 believes MODs should act when others bring up alternative theories. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Ill only use a sentence. A certain part of the American public is respsonsible for the Genocide of Muslims on their own soil. Poor, dumb Muslims cain't ever be responsible for themselves. Always someone else to blame. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Tell me this, Hamza; when Muhammad's descendents were massacred in his grandson's generation were white Europeans to blame? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 It was Jews that cut off Danny Pearl's head. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 THe suicide bombers in the Middle East are actually primarily Buddhists. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
hugo Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 George Washington was black. Aunt Jemima was white. Adolf Hitler was a Muslim. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
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