Guest BoaterDave Posted August 13, 2007 Posted August 13, 2007 How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest Philip K. Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 HI BoaterDave, Join the crowd. Your complaint is not specific to this news group or Microsoft. It is true of every news group which I have visited. Large companies no longer give out free advice. Large companies do not monitor news groups. When push comes to shove, how much free advice and/or monitoring can you expect on a one hundred or two hundred dollar retail sale. I have no idea if it is still true, but the Windows 98 news group did not even have an automatic check to weed out filthy attack language and counter-attacks. Phil "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Well I'm glad that someone reads my posts, Phil! style_emoticons/ Thanks for writing in. BD "Philip K." <Philip@aol.com> wrote in message news:%2390fL953HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > HI BoaterDave, > Join the crowd. Your complaint is not specific to this news group or > Microsoft. It is true of every news group which I have visited. Large > companies no longer give out free advice. Large companies do not monitor > news groups. When push comes to shove, how much free advice and/or > monitoring can you expect on a one hundred or two hundred dollar retail > sale. I have no idea if it is still true, but the Windows 98 news group > did not even have an automatic check to weed out filthy attack language > and counter-attacks. > Phil > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they > will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? > > I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by > Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about > that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears > that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' > and > is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. > > This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE > received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me > to > help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have > also > learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. > > PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run > HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. > Here's an example - O4 - HKLM..Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] > "C:Program FilesAdobeReader 8.0ReaderReader_sl.exe" > > Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at > leisure. <g> > > What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who > perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I > do! > > So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and > also having been > 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H > Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys > after > all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any > more! > > BD > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread." Are you going to remove same, Andrew? BD "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest Jim Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 This is an unmoderated group. Jim "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread." Are you going to remove same, Andrew? BD "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Thanks, Jim. (Andrew will understand <g>) BD "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message news:mXIxi.28143$RX.7366@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net... This is an unmoderated group. Jim "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread." Are you going to remove same, Andrew? BD "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest Peter Foldes Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Andrew Have you turned into a bad guy now. :-) -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Hello Peter Andrew is one of the good guys. His credentials have never been in question. It is you who is the unknown quantity. I accept that someone at Annexcafe newsgroups could have been masquerading as you. All you had to do was confirm, here, that it wasn't you who was posting 'over there'. Simple really. Yet you refused to do so. David "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:us0NW4h4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Andrew Have you turned into a bad guy now. :-) -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at leisure. <g> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do! So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more! BD Quote
Guest Dave H Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Guvf zna vf pyrneyl ybbarl, vg vf orfg gb vtaber uvz. rot13 Dave H "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:uuypz5l4HHA.2108@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Hello Peter > > Andrew is one of the good guys. His credentials have never been in > question. > > It is you who is the unknown quantity. I accept that someone at > Annexcafe newsgroups could have been masquerading as you. All you had to > do was confirm, here, that it wasn't you who was posting 'over there'. > Simple really. Yet you refused to do so. > > David > > > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:us0NW4h4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Andrew > > Have you turned into a bad guy now. :-) > > -- > Peter > > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. > > "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message > news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... > Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad > advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. > > I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. > -- > Andrew Taylor > ~ > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that they > will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? > > I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by > Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure > about > that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears > that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' > and > is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. > > This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE > received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me > to > help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have > also > learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. > > PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to > run > HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google. > Here's an example - O4 - HKLM..Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] > "C:Program FilesAdobeReader 8.0ReaderReader_sl.exe" > > Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at > leisure. <g> > > What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who > perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I > do! > > So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and > also having been > 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H > Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys > after > all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any > more! > > BD > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 So - you still here tracking me Dave. Someone posting "This man is clearly looney, it is best to ignore him" must surely have better things to do on a Sunday afternoon? BD "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message news:F05FE077-6F26-4603-8906-315FA82EE9BF@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Guvf zna vf pyrneyl ybbarl, vg vf orfg gb vtaber uvz. > rot13 > > Dave H > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:uuypz5l4HHA.2108@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Hello Peter >> >> Andrew is one of the good guys. His credentials have never been in >> question. >> >> It is you who is the unknown quantity. I accept that someone at >> Annexcafe newsgroups could have been masquerading as you. All you had to >> do was confirm, here, that it wasn't you who was posting 'over there'. >> Simple really. Yet you refused to do so. >> >> David >> >> >> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:us0NW4h4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Andrew >> >> Have you turned into a bad guy now. :-) >> >> -- >> Peter >> >> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others >> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. >> >> "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in >> message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... >> Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad >> advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. >> >> I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. >> -- >> Andrew Taylor >> ~ >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> How can anyone visiting here for the first time have any idea that >> they >> will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice? >> >> I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by >> Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure >> about >> that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears >> that no such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' >> and >> is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit. >> >> This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE >> received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me >> to >> help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have >> also >> learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it. >> >> PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to >> run >> HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into >> Google. >> Here's an example - O4 - HKLM..Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] >> "C:Program FilesAdobeReader 8.0ReaderReader_sl.exe" >> >> Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at >> leisure. <g> >> >> What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who >> perpetrates the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I >> do! >> >> So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, >> and also having been >> 'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H >> Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys >> after >> all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any >> more! >> >> BD >> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 why are you goading Andrew? he's a 'good guy' and doesn't deserve this embarrassment from one of his 'friends'. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread." Are you going to remove same, Andrew? BD "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. -- Andrew Taylor ~ Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Goading? I truly do not understand. How can I have possibly caused Andrew embarrassment here? I completely agree that Andrew is a 'good guy' - as I said in my response to Peter Foldes just two hours ago. You should have listened to Andrew yourself when he advised you to let me have my own group. Better still, you should never have excluded me from Annexcafe in the first place. You may be an innocent party, Li, but something is NOT straight-forward 'over there'. Think about anyone who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are. What made you come here looking for me again anyway? Are you part of some secret society which needs to track those who may be suspicious of the motives of others? Why should my personal views be of any concern to you? As your very close friend has stated this very afternoon, ""This man is clearly looney, it is best to ignore him". Why didn't you take Dave's advice and simply ignore me? So many questions .... yet rarely a straight-forward answer. BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message news:eDXVrym4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > why are you goading Andrew? > he's a 'good guy' and doesn't deserve this embarrassment from one of his > 'friends'. > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator > would remove this thread." > > Are you going to remove same, Andrew? > > BD > > > "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in > message > news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... > Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad > advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. > > I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. > -- > Andrew Taylor > ~ > > > > ></span> Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 not the last time I looked in the mirror Peter :>) -- Andrew Taylor Toronto - Canada ~ "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:us0NW4h4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Andrew Have you turned into a bad guy now. :-) Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 I don't Delete. It is being dealt with by someone more senior than me. -- Andrew Taylor Toronto - Canada ~ "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread." Are you going to remove same, Andrew? BD Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Think about anyone who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are. it was you, yourself, who caused you to be 'excluded'. search Usenet for Admin groups, ask them for a group. to find 'bad guys' search Usenet for them. (use google groups if you don't know how to access Usenet using a news client.) as you have noticed in over 2 years of searching 'private' servers, you have found nothing. move on to bigger, meaner, badder pastures. or are you afraid to meet and confront real 'bad guys' ? two steps closer you go to where you truly belong. i suspect someone will have a new toy to play with soon. how are you coming along with your ip scanners? TL (follow up set) "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%233cXdPn4HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Goading? I truly do not understand. How can I have possibly caused Andrew embarrassment here? I completely agree that Andrew is a 'good guy' - as I said in my response to Peter Foldes just two hours ago. You should have listened to Andrew yourself when he advised you to let me have my own group. Better still, you should never have excluded me from Annexcafe in the first place. You may be an innocent party, Li, but something is NOT straight-forward 'over there'. Think about anyone who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are. What made you come here looking for me again anyway? Are you part of some secret society which needs to track those who may be suspicious of the motives of others? Why should my personal views be of any concern to you? As your very close friend has stated this very afternoon, ""This man is clearly looney, it is best to ignore him". Why didn't you take Dave's advice and simply ignore me? So many questions .... yet rarely a straight-forward answer. BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message news:eDXVrym4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > why are you goading Andrew? > he's a 'good guy' and doesn't deserve this embarrassment from one of his > 'friends'. > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator > would remove this thread." > > Are you going to remove same, Andrew? > > BD > > > "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in > message > news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... > Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad > advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. > > I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. > -- > Andrew Taylor > ~ > > > > ></span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Hi Li I'm fine right here. Thanks for asking. I note that you've not answered any of my questions - nothing changes, eh? <g> David "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:nqSdnfQVzv44xFTbnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> > Think about anyone who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may > then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are. > > it was you, yourself, who caused you to be 'excluded'. > > search Usenet for Admin groups, ask them for a group. > > to find 'bad guys' search Usenet for them. (use google groups if you don't > know how to access Usenet using a news client.) > > as you have noticed in over 2 years of searching 'private' servers, you > have > found nothing. move on to bigger, meaner, badder pastures. or are you > afraid > to meet and confront real 'bad guys' ? > > two steps closer you go to where you truly belong. > i suspect someone will have a new toy to play with soon. > how are you coming along with your ip scanners? > > TL > (follow up set) > > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%233cXdPn4HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Goading? I truly do not understand. How can I have possibly caused Andrew > embarrassment here? > > I completely agree that Andrew is a 'good guy' - as I said in my response > to > Peter Foldes just two hours ago. > > You should have listened to Andrew yourself when he advised you to let me > have my own group. Better still, you should never have excluded me from > Annexcafe in the first place. You may be an innocent party, Li, but > something is NOT straight-forward 'over there'. Think about anyone who > may > have encouraged you to exclude me - you may then be a step closer to > discovering who the bad guys really are. > > What made you come here looking for me again anyway? Are you part of some > secret society which needs to track those who may be suspicious of the > motives of others? Why should my personal views be of any concern to you? > As > your very close friend has stated this very afternoon, ""This man is > clearly > looney, it is best to ignore him". Why didn't you take Dave's advice and > simply ignore me? So many questions .... yet rarely a straight-forward > answer. > > BD > > > "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message > news:eDXVrym4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> why are you goading Andrew? >> he's a 'good guy' and doesn't deserve this embarrassment from one of his >> 'friends'. >> >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator >> would remove this thread." >> >> Are you going to remove same, Andrew? >> >> BD >> >> >> "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in >> message >> news:46c119e6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... >> Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad >> advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong. >> >> I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing. >> -- >> Andrew Taylor >> ~ >> >> >> >> >></span> > > > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 I've been a bit 'off colour' suffering from a summer cold, so didn't at first pick up on this comment of yours, Li - "how are you coming along with your ip scanners?" Although others here will not be at all interested I'm sure, I'd be most pleased if you would remind me of how you know about my IP scanners - you've not been peeking inside my PC have you, Li? That's impossible, of course! ..... or is it? (but you wouldn't tell me and the rest of the world if you are able to, now would you? <g>) BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:nqSdnfQVzv44xFTbnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> > Think about anyone who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may > then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are. > > it was you, yourself, who caused you to be 'excluded'. > > search Usenet for Admin groups, ask them for a group. > > to find 'bad guys' search Usenet for them. (use google groups if you don't > know how to access Usenet using a news client.) > > as you have noticed in over 2 years of searching 'private' servers, you > have > found nothing. move on to bigger, meaner, badder pastures. or are you > afraid > to meet and confront real 'bad guys' ? > > two steps closer you go to where you truly belong. > i suspect someone will have a new toy to play with soon. > how are you coming along with your ip scanners? > > TL > (follow up set) > > </span> <snip> Quote
Guest Dave H Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 All logical. We watch for bad guys here. Bad guys do IP scanning. If you have used an IP scanner, your ISP will disconnect you, for being a bad guy. Dave H "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:Ok%23FDu$4HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > I've been a bit 'off colour' suffering from a summer cold, so didn't at > first pick up on this comment of yours, Li - "how are you coming along > with your ip scanners?" > > Although others here will not be at all interested I'm sure, I'd be most > pleased if you would remind me of how you know about my IP scanners - > you've not been peeking inside my PC have you, Li? > > That's impossible, of course! ..... or is it? (but you wouldn't tell me > and the rest of the world if you are able to, now would you? <g>) > > BD > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message news:%236uv07A5HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > All logical. > We watch for bad guys here.</span> I'd like you to qualify the word 'we', please, Dave. I didn't notice your presence here before you came here looking for me. <span style="color:blue"> > Bad guys do IP scanning.</span> Indeed - so why do you do it? <span style="color:blue"> > If you have used an IP scanner, your ISP will disconnect you, for being a > bad guy.</span> That will apply equally to you, no doubt. <span style="color:blue"> > > Dave H > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:Ok%23FDu$4HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> I've been a bit 'off colour' suffering from a summer cold, so didn't at >> first pick up on this comment of yours, Li - "how are you coming along >> with your ip scanners?" >> >> Although others here will not be at all interested I'm sure, I'd be most >> pleased if you would remind me of how you know about my IP scanners - >> you've not been peeking inside my PC have you, Li? >> >> That's impossible, of course! ..... or is it? (but you wouldn't tell >> me and the rest of the world if you are able to, now would you? <g>) >> >> BD >> </span></span> Quote
Guest Dave H Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 I do not IP scan. Well, maybe not "we" any more, I'm pretty sure fewer people can even be bothered with you. You just proved to me that either you like twisting words (as below), or you are befuddled, it matters not which you are. So, like so many others, I shall now kill file you, but you can still reply for your own pleasure. Quite simply, I don't want to know you, or your problems, in any shape or form. You are a danger to yourself and others, and should keep under the radar. One parting note, if you are capable of learning quick, it won't happen quick. Reasons are- 1/ you don't listen 2/ your mind is not open 3/ you are a waste of time and space. Bet you reply, which will prove my point(s), which are- you are a bad guy you don't listen. Dave H "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OyRbdZD5HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message > news:%236uv07A5HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> All logical. >> We watch for bad guys here.</span> > > I'd like you to qualify the word 'we', please, Dave. > > I didn't notice your presence here before you came here looking for me. ><span style="color:green"> >> Bad guys do IP scanning.</span> > > Indeed - so why do you do it? ><span style="color:green"> >> If you have used an IP scanner, your ISP will disconnect you, for being a >> bad guy.</span> > > That will apply equally to you, no doubt. ><span style="color:green"> >> >> Dave H >> >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:Ok%23FDu$4HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> I've been a bit 'off colour' suffering from a summer cold, so didn't at >>> first pick up on this comment of yours, Li - "how are you coming along >>> with your ip scanners?" >>> >>> Although others here will not be at all interested I'm sure, I'd be most >>> pleased if you would remind me of how you know about my IP scanners - >>> you've not been peeking inside my PC have you, Li? >>> >>> That's impossible, of course! ..... or is it? (but you wouldn't tell >>> me and the rest of the world if you are able to, now would you? <g>) >>> >>> BD >>></span></span> > > </span> Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in news:#6uv07A5HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: <span style="color:blue"> > All logical. > We watch for bad guys here. > Bad guys do IP scanning. > If you have used an IP scanner, your ISP will disconnect you, for > being a bad guy.</span> Your just being cheeky right? style_emoticons/ -- Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:OyRbdZD5HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: <span style="color:blue"> > > "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message > news:%236uv07A5HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> All logical. >> We watch for bad guys here.</span> > > I'd like you to qualify the word 'we', please, Dave. > > I didn't notice your presence here before you came here looking for > me. > <span style="color:green"> >> Bad guys do IP scanning.</span> > > Indeed - so why do you do it?</span> Not all bad guys do IP scanning. I scan IP ranges from time to time myself. -- Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 you use ip scanners to find vulnerable computers so you can 'help' them by showing them they are unprotected. as you've seen by trying to scan mine, mine doesn't exist to you. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:Ok%23FDu$4HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I've been a bit 'off colour' suffering from a summer cold, so didn't at first pick up on this comment of yours, Li - "how are you coming along with your ip scanners?" Although others here will not be at all interested I'm sure, I'd be most pleased if you would remind me of how you know about my IP scanners - you've not been peeking inside my PC have you, Li? That's impossible, of course! ..... or is it? (but you wouldn't tell me and the rest of the world if you are able to, now would you? <g>) BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:nqSdnfQVzv44xFTbnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> > Think about anyone who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may > then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are. > > it was you, yourself, who caused you to be 'excluded'. > > search Usenet for Admin groups, ask them for a group. > > to find 'bad guys' search Usenet for them. (use google groups if you don't > know how to access Usenet using a news client.) > > as you have noticed in over 2 years of searching 'private' servers, you > have > found nothing. move on to bigger, meaner, badder pastures. or are you > afraid > to meet and confront real 'bad guys' ? > > two steps closer you go to where you truly belong. > i suspect someone will have a new toy to play with soon. > how are you coming along with your ip scanners? > > TL > (follow up set) > > </span> <snip> Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 no, not cheeky. what bd does with the results his scans are illegal. "Dustin Cook" <spamfilterineffect.see.sig@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns99944BF7704EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in news:#6uv07A5HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: <span style="color:blue"> > All logical. > We watch for bad guys here. > Bad guys do IP scanning. > If you have used an IP scanner, your ISP will disconnect you, for > being a bad guy.</span> Your just being cheeky right? style_emoticons/ -- Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml Quote
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