Guest BR Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Do you own this server? Then don't try to issue commands. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eKhrCyP6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Hello again, PCButts1 - you don't seem to be offering much help or advice. Best keep out of this thread. style_emoticons/ BD "BR" <none@Glochester.non> wrote in message news:EdKdnemjq60Az07bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@trueband.net...<span style="color:blue"> > You are indeed a clueless dofuss. > > Research your telly. > > It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen. > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > My quest is to determine just how it was done. By whom is > another matter, probably best left to the police. > > Any help will be much appreciated. style_emoticons/ > > David > > ></span> Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 why? of course i'll answer and have, repeatedly. maybe you visited an infected web site, or you clicked 'click this to protect your pc!' or you opened an attachment from an unknown or even a known person and infected yourself. maybe you didn't keep your computer up to date with all patches. maybe you got 'caught' the day before your av updated for whatever it was YOU picked up. so, your question of why goes right back to you, the one using your computer. if you want to know how\why it could be done by another person, this isn't the group for that. does your isp carry any of the alt.hackers. groups? if so, they might tell you how\why it was done. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... I don't mind you constantly replying with useless comments, Li. style_emoticons/ At no time did I mention a 'dial-up' modem. I was connected to Broadband via a modem supplied by my ISP (at that time Wanadoo, now Orange) - I was connected and, as you mentioned (correctly) succeptible to attack. My PC was attacked. Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you wouldn't tell others here! <g> BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:-qqdndY1_MQjUE7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> > you were given a few simple answers as to why your dial up modem would > disconnect. > there are many more. > > a malicious attack on your computer is not one of them. > again, anyone wanting to harm your computer andor steal your identity > would > want you connected. > > whine to google > "why does my dial up modem disconnect" > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:e3jqNdP6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question. > > I therefore guess you aren't pretending at all. <g> > > BD > > > "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message > news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> ok. >> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated' >> >> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer? >> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked. >> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.) >> >> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine. >> >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> You are either pretending to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is >> it? style_emoticons/ >> >> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post. >> Sorry >> about that. >> >> BD >> >> >> >> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message >> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected >>> quite >>> often. >>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get >>> disconnected >>> trying to open a web page. >>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again. >>> >>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel >>> you've >>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall) >>> >>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a >>> coincidence, >>> not a malicious attack. >>> >>> TL >>> >>> >>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE. >>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit. >>> >>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did >>> it >>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true! >>> >>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware' >>> and >>> try to discover just how I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought >>> that >>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and >>> Spybot >>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. >>> Insufficient >>> protection as it turned out! >>> >>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and >>> you'll >>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less >>> than >>> two years ago - how naive was that! <g>). >>> >>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of >>> curiosity. >>> I >>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful >>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A >>> person >>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I >>> was >>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of >>> occasions. My quest is to determine just how it was done. By whom is >>> another matter, probably best left to the police. >>> >>> Any help will be much appreciated. style_emoticons/ >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message >>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net... >>>> www.annexcafe.com >>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed. >>>> >>>> www.dogagent.com >>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public. >>>> >>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in >>>> case >>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans. >>>> >>>> this is suspicious to BD. >>>> >>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be >>>> staff >>>> for both servers. >>>> >>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience >>>> on >>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it. >>>> >>>> TL >>> <snip> >>> >>> >>></span> >> >> >></span> > > ></span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I despair Troll_Lady. However, I'll reiterate just one more time so that other reader here will know exactly what was meant. My PC was 'attacked', and put out of service (for a time) by a person unknown who was operating from the US site of the Annexcafe User2User newsgroup. (annexcafe.general.user2user). Nowhere else. I have no doubt. As I've said on numerous occasions now, 'The truth will out' BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:6eGdnfWuc8CGvUnbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> > why? of course I know! > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > My PC was attacked. > > Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you > wouldn't > tell others here! <g> > > BD > > </span> Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 i have no doubt that you are mistaken. you need to learn about servers, newsgroups and security. until you have, and can type with some knowledge, your quest will be full of despair. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eOCD89X6HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... I despair Troll_Lady. However, I'll reiterate just one more time so that other reader here will know exactly what was meant. My PC was 'attacked', and put out of service (for a time) by a person unknown who was operating from the US site of the Annexcafe User2User newsgroup. (annexcafe.general.user2user). Nowhere else. I have no doubt. As I've said on numerous occasions now, 'The truth will out' BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:6eGdnfWuc8CGvUnbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> > why? of course I know! > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > My PC was attacked. > > Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you > wouldn't > tell others here! <g> > > BD > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I'll need some help then! <g> Any volunteers here? BD "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:HPednfD6ONzAx0nbnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:blue"> >i have no doubt that you are mistaken. > > you need to learn about servers, newsgroups and security. > until you have, and can type with some knowledge, your quest will be full > of > despair. > > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eOCD89X6HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I despair Troll_Lady. > > However, I'll reiterate just one more time so that other reader here will > know exactly what was meant. > > My PC was 'attacked', and put out of service (for a time) by a person > unknown who was operating from the US site of the Annexcafe User2User > newsgroup. (annexcafe.general.user2user). > > Nowhere else. I have no doubt. > > As I've said on numerous occasions now, 'The truth will out' > > BD > > > > "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message > news:6eGdnfWuc8CGvUnbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@bright.net...<span style="color:green"> >> why? of course I know! >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> My PC was attacked. >> >> Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you >> wouldn't >> tell others here! <g> >> >> BD >> >> </span> > > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 You, Sir, were 'presuming' my answer! <g> I made a suggestion only. I have never tried to issue commands, ever - I've either issued commands or, if appropriate, obeyed them. BD "BR" <none@Glochester.non> wrote in message news:sJSdndf3gYpOe07bnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@trueband.net...<span style="color:blue"> > Do you own this server? > Then don't try to issue commands. > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eKhrCyP6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hello again, PCButts1 - you don't seem to be offering much help or advice. > Best keep out of this thread. style_emoticons/ > > BD > > > "BR" <none@Glochester.non> wrote in message > news:EdKdnemjq60Az07bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@trueband.net...<span style="color:green"> >> You are indeed a clueless dofuss. >> >> Research your telly. >> >> It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen. >> >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> My quest is to determine just how it was done. By whom is >> another matter, probably best left to the police. >> >> Any help will be much appreciated. style_emoticons/ >> >> David >> >> >></span> > > > </span> Quote
Guest BR Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 You are so lost even a high end GPS unit will not bring you back. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:ezf8CoZ6HHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... I'll need some help then! <g> Any volunteers here? BD Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in news:cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@bright.net: <span style="color:blue"> > ah, he' new to playing with ip scanners. > he's looking for 'vulnerable' computers so he can tell them about the > 'bad guys'. > > to me, no computer at that ip is no response. > is there a difference?</span> Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ <span style="color:blue"> > i'm willing to help him technically, i'm not willing to gossip with > him so i'm a bad guy. > (in my case it should be a bad lady, but... )</span> I really don't know anything about the issues between you two. I'm neutral. I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/ -- #################################################### Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml #################################################### Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 I understand that there are 'control' problems over on 'Wormhole' now - annexcafe.sff.wormhole I'm amazed that Li/Trolli/Troll_Lady has enough hours in the day to deal with all her Administrative duties - all voluntary, un-paid, work so I was once told. Hardly time for Real Life at all, I suspect! We are so lucky to have such folk willing to protect our interests, don't you think? <g> BD "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:uDrFrR75HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> >I must have missed your post Andrew. Sorry for my lack of response. > > What I would have said at the time was "and here am I thinking that you > were/are the 'top dog' in your own U2U group". Seems like someone else is > keeping you and your posters 'under control'. Now I wonder why that is? > <g> > > David > > > > "Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message > news:46c88c99$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... > I don't Delete. It is being dealt with by someone more senior than me. > > -- > Andrew Taylor > Toronto - Canada > ~ > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator > would remove this thread." > > Are you going to remove same, Andrew? > > BD > </span> Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited for public.security.homeusers. i don't have that group on this server. if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? thanks! TL snipped extra. "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/ -- #################################################### Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml #################################################### Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 you understand nothing. how you have enough hours in a day to follow me all over, i'll never know. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 i don't see you there. if you do sub that group, please ping me? thanks, TL "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net... ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited for public.security.homeusers. i don't have that group on this server. if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? thanks! TL snipped extra. "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/ -- #################################################### Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml #################################################### Quote
Guest Tom Willett Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 If you subscribe directly to the MS news servers, you'll see that group. "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net... | ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited | for public.security.homeusers. | i don't have that group on this server. | if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? | thanks! | TL | | snipped extra. | | "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message | news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... | | Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no | response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I | were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ | | I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/ | -- | #################################################### | Dustin Cook | Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c | Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com | Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk | Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml | #################################################### | | Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!) Perhaps others with the PC skills to identify 'malware' could check this item and report 'their' findings. Is it possible the McAfee found a false positive? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Dave "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message news:O%23pXn%23x5HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > LMBO! > Troll_Lady is NOT my nick on Annexcafe, as you well know. > > http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/micros...uthor.html#3842 > Li > a.. Re: 4 hours (10/31/03) > a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03) > a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03) > a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03) > a.. 4 hours (10/30/03) > just a small example, BD. > you want answers to questions that are easily found using correct > keywords. > > pay attention to the dates you find for my posts here and other ms groups. > so, who has followed who where? > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:uD6NALx5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > It would seem that there is more than one of you then! I'm sorry if this > is > another case of mistaken identity. > > Instead of 'Googling' for the name only - I 'Googled' for "Troll_Lady > +Annexcafe" > > Here is an example of what was found: > http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?p=3101124 > > Perhaps you will confirm that the Troll_Lady posting therein was NOT you > either. TIA. > > BD > > > "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message > news:%23wAwl8w5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> correction. i am NOT the Administrator at Annexcafe. >> >> i'm sure if you did a google search, you could find many posts from me on >> various MS groups over the years. long before you discovered the 'net. >> >> i keep my dial up account for my email address. it's been the same >> address >> since 1998. >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:eB9Ylwu5HHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post >> here? >> >> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g> >> >> Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from home >> to >> monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the poster >> actually >> is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the activities of someone >> like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm perceived as being a threat, >> either here on MS or over in 'that other place'. >> >> Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain >> hidden. style_emoticons/ >> >> BD >> >> >> "Dustin Cook" <spamfilterineffect.see.sig@nowhere.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns999713321B497HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in >>> news:eMC9Lal5HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: >>> >>>> I think I'm going to need some help with this task. >>>> >>>> Any volunteers? >>> >>> One is a dialup? account, the other is a dsl line. Likely the same >>> person... style_emoticons/ >>> >>> I don't know why you wish to play detective here. Is there something to >>> gain from doing this? >>> >>> It seems cloak and dagger like in nature to me. >>> >>> -- >>> Dustin Cook >>> Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c >>> email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis >>> web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk >>> Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml >>></span> >> >> >></span> > > > </span> Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 hi, Tom. i do sub that group on this server. however, it doesn't show in any of my other Usenet accounts for some reason. my security questions to Dustin would be off topic here. thanks! TL "Tom Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message news:e6YUA4%236HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... If you subscribe directly to the MS news servers, you'll see that group. "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net... | ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited | for public.security.homeusers. | i don't have that group on this server. | if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? | thanks! | TL | | snipped extra. | | "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message | news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... | | Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no | response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I | were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ | | I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/ | -- | #################################################### | Dustin Cook | Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c | Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com | Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk | Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml | #################################################### | | Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Hi TL Most of what's in this thread is way OT anyway, so I'm sure no-one will be upset if you ask your questions of Dustin right here. What would you like to know? BD "Troll_Lady" <TLOne@DogAgent.com> wrote in message news:uNSr3HH7HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > hi, Tom. > i do sub that group on this server. > however, it doesn't show in any of my other Usenet accounts for some > reason. > my security questions to Dustin would be off topic here. > thanks! > TL > > > "Tom Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message > news:e6YUA4%236HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If you subscribe directly to the MS news servers, you'll see that group. > > "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message > news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net... > | ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better > suited > | for public.security.homeusers. > | i don't have that group on this server. > | if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? > | thanks! > | TL > | > | snipped extra. > | > | "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > | news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... > | > | Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get > no > | response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I > | were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ > | > | I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/ > | -- > | #################################################### > | Dustin Cook > | Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c > | Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com > | Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > | Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml > | #################################################### > | > | > > > </span> Quote
Guest Sandy Mann Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:O1Yv8RH7HHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Most of what's in this thread is way OT anyway</span> I wonder whose fault that is? -- Sandy Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: <span style="color:blue"> > FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) > flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. > > The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. <span style="color:blue"> > Perhaps others with the PC skills to identify 'malware' could check > this item and report 'their' findings. Is it possible the McAfee found > a false positive?</span> I have found that the site advisor is a bit paranoid and it's data isn't always accurate. I do not believe troll lady is trying to infect you or anyone else with that link. Dave, shoot me an email, I'd like to offer some help in basic networking and security; as I see alot of your issue really is lack of understanding, and we can fix that without further name calling between yourself and a few other posters. Ok? -- #################################################### Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml #################################################### Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Ping Troll Lady "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net: <span style="color:blue"> > ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better > suited for public.security.homeusers. > i don't have that group on this server. > if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? > thanks! > TL > > snipped extra. > > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... > > Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I > get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a > firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ > > I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/</span> I have crossposted this to that newsgroup as you requested so they can benefit from the information as well. Feel free to continue the questions. -- #################################################### Dustin Cook Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml #################################################### Quote
Guest Kerry Brown Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:blue"> > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in > news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: ><span style="color:green"> >> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) >> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. >> >> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> > > I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using > Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. ></span> As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer than any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people dispute that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of updates for both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons. A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a newsgroup. I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia. Read newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check out the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any links in the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or better yet boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your network and uses a dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera with no add-ons installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup post into this browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is your lucky day. Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading the web page shut down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got infected or the web site may have logged your IP address and passed it on to someone who would use it for malicious purposes. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING Hi Kerry - just HOW did you do that? I'd just love to know how it's done! <g> BD "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c a m> wrote in message news:2B0B56C7-2B8A-4D29-A519-AAC5FEC164D9@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:green"> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in >> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) >>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. >>> >>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> >> >> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using >> Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. >></span> > > > As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer > than any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people > dispute that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of > updates for both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons. > > A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any > newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a > newsgroup. I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia. > Read newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check > out the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any > links in the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or > better yet boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your > network and uses a dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera > with no add-ons installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup > post into this browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is > your lucky day. Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading > the web page shut down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got > infected or the web site may have logged your IP address and passed it on > to someone who would use it for malicious purposes. > > -- > Kerry Brown > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING OK, Dustin. I really will appreciate some help. TIA David "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:blue"> > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in > news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: ><span style="color:green"> >> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) >> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. >> >> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> > > I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using > Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. ><span style="color:green"> >> Perhaps others with the PC skills to identify 'malware' could check >> this item and report 'their' findings. Is it possible the McAfee found >> a false positive?</span> > > I have found that the site advisor is a bit paranoid and it's data isn't > always accurate. I do not believe troll lady is trying to infect you or > anyone else with that link. > > Dave, shoot me an email, I'd like to offer some help in basic networking > and security; as I see alot of your issue really is lack of > understanding, and we can fix that without further name calling between > yourself and a few other posters. Ok? > > > > -- > #################################################### > Dustin Cook > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c > Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com > Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml > #################################################### </span> Quote
Guest Peter Foldes Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING very big :-) -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c a m> wrote in message news:2B0B56C7-2B8A-4D29-A519-AAC5FEC164D9@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:green"> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in >> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) >>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. >>> >>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> >> >> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using >> Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. >></span> > > > As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer than > any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people dispute > that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of updates for > both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons. > > A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any > newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a newsgroup. > I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia. Read > newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check out > the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any links in > the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or better yet > boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your network and uses a > dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera with no add-ons > installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup post into this > browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is your lucky day. > Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading the web page shut > down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got infected or the web > site may have logged your IP address and passed it on to someone who would > use it for malicious purposes. > > -- > Kerry Brown > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User > http://www.vistahelp.ca > ></span> Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted September 2, 2007 Posted September 2, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c a m> wrote in news:2B0B56C7-2B8A-4D29-A519-AAC5FEC164D9@microsoft.com: <span style="color:blue"> > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:green"> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in >> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) >>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. >>> >>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> >> >> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. >> Using Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. >></span> > > > As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is</span> My apologies for making the statement as generic as I did. -- Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c Email.: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml PGP...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/bughunter.dustin.txt Quote
Guest Troll_Lady Posted September 2, 2007 Posted September 2, 2007 Re: Ping Troll Lady thanks! "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:blue"> > "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in > news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net: ><span style="color:green"> >> ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better >> suited for public.security.homeusers. >> i don't have that group on this server. >> if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping? >> thanks! >> TL >> >> snipped extra. >> >> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121... >> >> Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I >> get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a >> firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further. style_emoticons/ >> >> I'll offer advice/help when I can do so. style_emoticons/</span> > > I have crossposted this to that newsgroup as you requested so they can > benefit from the information as well. Feel free to continue the > questions. ></span> hi, Dustin, thanks! my tests at grc shields up have always been 'stealth'. i have assumed this was enough. i have a dsl modem connected to a router, plus a software firewall. (not much incoming on sw firewall, unless i'm using my dial up, but all gets blocked when doing so. i use it to block my games from going out). from what i understand you to say above, the 'no response' is NOT good enough? if so, how\what do i configure for 'host unreachable' ? i'm not running a server. if there is something further i need to do to protect myself, i want to know about it. xphome sp2, almost fully patched (last updates caused a system restore to be needed and i've not been back since, so, i'm a month behind) router (hopefully strong pw) spyware blaster ad aware avg free za firewall crap cleaner custom security settings safe hex i've used all grc tools to turn things off as recommended. windows pop up stopper works pretty good so i've not installed any 3rd party. i use an old 95\98 power toy that adds to my 'tools' in ie, add site to trusted, add to restricted. i have 2 sites in trusted, allow everything for those 2. all other sites i visit fall under custom security unless they really irritate me (tripod) then i just 'tools' add to restricted sites. i don't use the phishing filter. (i don't buy online, i go to the bank in person, etc....) so, other than the windows updates i'm behind on, what else do i need to do to protect my computer? thanks, TL <span style="color:blue"> > -- > #################################################### > Dustin Cook > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c > Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com > Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml > #################################################### </span> Quote
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