Guest BoaterDave Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: Ping Troll Lady Good, thanks Leo! Still waiting to hear from Li, though, in response to my query. style_emoticons/ BD "Leo" <ldontwant@anymail.com> wrote in message news:OvrDVHWAIHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Welcome back. How was the "cruise?" > > -- > Leo > > Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys > to teenage boys." > > > > > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:uqzLOCWAIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Hello Li >> >> "Troll_Lady" <TLOne@DogAgent.com> wrote in message >> news:%23tXjnLf8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> thanks! >>> yes, i did go to your site and look at bug hunter. >>> i might add it. >>> it looks simple and does what it's meant to do. >>> TL >>> OH! >>> haha on making me nervous. i hadn't seen had so much as a tracking >>> cookie in a few years. >>> i was googling, had moderate safe search on, clicked wo checking >>> status. picked up 13 trackers & 2 trojan d'loaders. slipped right >>> through my active x turn offs into my temp files. lesson learned, no >>> matter how many years being 'safe' never become so blaise' i won't >>> forget the status bar check again. LOL! >>> TL</span> >> >> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >> former, what prompted you to search for them? >> >> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - >> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >> >> TIA >> >> BD >></span> > > </span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING Reply below:- "Kerry Brown" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:green"> > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in > > news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: > ><span style="color:darkred"> > >> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) > >> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. > >> > >> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)</span> > > > > I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using > > Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. > ></span> > > > As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer than > any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people dispute > that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of updates for > both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons. > > A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any > newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a newsgroup. > I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia. Read > newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check out > the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any links in > the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or better yet > boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your network and uses a > dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera with no add-ons > installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup post into this > browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is your lucky day. > Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading the web page shut > down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got infected or the web > site may have logged your IP address and passed it on to someone who would > use it for malicious purposes. > > -- > Kerry Brown > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User > http://www.vistahelp.ca > > </span> I'm so sorry that I didn't respond to your sound advice, Tech B (aka Kerry Brown) - I was probably too busy thinking about going boating again at the time you posted. FYI - I believe in only one God. I see that you have now been awarded MVP status. You must be extremely proud of yourself and probably enjoyed a big hug from K.Dee too! Congratulations! Dave Quote
Guest Dustin Cook Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING =?Utf-8?B?Qm9hdGVyRGF2ZQ==?= <BoaterDave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in news:329C2907-01F1-4AE7-BD75-F14069D55478@microsoft.com: <span style="color:blue"> > Reply below:- > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > <span style="color:green"> >> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in >> > news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: >> > >> >> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) >> >> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady. >> >> >> >> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!) >> > >> > I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. >> > Using Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option. >> ></span> >> >> >> As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is >> safer than any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP >> some people dispute that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on >> the state of updates for both browser's, the OS, and any browser >> add-ons. >> >> A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any >> newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a >> newsgroup. I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's >> paranoia. Read newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to >> obfuscate a link. Check out the domain in the link with a Google >> search but don't click on any links in the search results. Start a >> virtual machine that runs linux or better yet boot up your linux >> computer that is not connected to your network and uses a dial up >> connection. Open an up to date version of Opera with no add-ons >> installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup post into >> this browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is your >> lucky day. Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading >> the web page shut down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it >> got infected or the web site may have logged your IP address and >> passed it on to someone who would use it for malicious purposes. >> >> -- >> Kerry Brown >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User >> http://www.vistahelp.ca >> >> </span> > > I'm so sorry that I didn't respond to your sound advice, Tech B (aka > Kerry Brown) - I was probably too busy thinking about going boating > again at the time you posted. FYI - I believe in only one God. > > I see that you have now been awarded MVP status. You must be extremely > proud of yourself and probably enjoyed a big hug from K.Dee too! > Congratulations! > > Dave > </span> Oops. I missed this response. My apologies to the both of you. Kerry, I didn't mean to make such a blanket statement, however, IE's history in so far as security risks goes pretty much speaks for itself. -- Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2d Email.: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com Web...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk Pad...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml PGP...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/bughunter.dustin.txt Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 Re: Ping Troll Lady I'm very sad - I've still not heard from Li - in response to my query, thus: style_emoticons/ Dave <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >> former, what prompted you to search for them? >> >> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - >> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >> >> TIA</span></span> "BoaterDave" <bdoftj@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eN$ru46CIHA.5856@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Good, thanks Leo! > > Still waiting to hear from Li, though, in response to my query. style_emoticons/ > > BD > > "Leo" <ldontwant@anymail.com> wrote in message > news:OvrDVHWAIHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Welcome back. How was the "cruise?" >> >> -- >> Leo >> >> Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys >> to teenage boys." >> >> >> >> >> >> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:uqzLOCWAIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Hello Li >>> >>> "Troll_Lady" <TLOne@DogAgent.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23tXjnLf8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> thanks! >>>> yes, i did go to your site and look at bug hunter. >>>> i might add it. >>>> it looks simple and does what it's meant to do. >>>> TL >>>> OH! >>>> haha on making me nervous. i hadn't seen had so much as a tracking >>>> cookie in a few years. >>>> i was googling, had moderate safe search on, clicked wo checking >>>> status. picked up 13 trackers & 2 trojan d'loaders. slipped right >>>> through my active x turn offs into my temp files. lesson learned, no >>>> matter how many years being 'safe' never become so blaise' i won't >>>> forget the status bar check again. LOL! >>>> TL >>> >>> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >>> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >>> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >>> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >>> former, what prompted you to search for them? >>> >>> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - >>> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> BD >>></span> >> >></span> > > > </span> Quote
Guest Peter Foldes Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Re: Ping Troll Lady Wow. 2 1\2 month later the saga continues -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:O2WXGEUSIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > I'm very sad - I've still not heard from Li - in response to my query, > thus: style_emoticons/ > > Dave > <span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >>> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >>> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >>> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >>> former, what prompted you to search for them? >>> >>> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - >>> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >>> >>> TIA</span></span> > > > > "BoaterDave" <bdoftj@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eN$ru46CIHA.5856@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Good, thanks Leo! >> >> Still waiting to hear from Li, though, in response to my query. style_emoticons/ >> >> BD >> >> "Leo" <ldontwant@anymail.com> wrote in message >> news:OvrDVHWAIHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Welcome back. How was the "cruise?" >>> >>> -- >>> Leo >>> >>> Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys >>> to teenage boys." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:uqzLOCWAIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Hello Li >>>> >>>> "Troll_Lady" <TLOne@DogAgent.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23tXjnLf8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> thanks! >>>>> yes, i did go to your site and look at bug hunter. >>>>> i might add it. >>>>> it looks simple and does what it's meant to do. >>>>> TL >>>>> OH! >>>>> haha on making me nervous. i hadn't seen had so much as a tracking >>>>> cookie in a few years. >>>>> i was googling, had moderate safe search on, clicked wo checking >>>>> status. picked up 13 trackers & 2 trojan d'loaders. slipped right >>>>> through my active x turn offs into my temp files. lesson learned, no >>>>> matter how many years being 'safe' never become so blaise' i won't >>>>> forget the status bar check again. LOL! >>>>> TL >>>> >>>> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >>>> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >>>> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >>>> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >>>> former, what prompted you to search for them? >>>> >>>> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - >>>> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> BD >>>> >>> >>></span> >> >> >> </span> > ></span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Re: Ping Troll Lady Hi Peter - Happy New Year! style_emoticons/ FYI - here's a question posed to me elsewhere recently: "Who or what is Peter Foldes? My MVP Profile at Microsoft is publicly viewable. My AumHa Profile is publicly viewable". I thought just about everybody knew you, Peter! <wink!> Dave "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ua6yNmcSIHA.1528@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Wow. 2 1\2 month later the saga continues -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:O2WXGEUSIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > I'm very sad - I've still not heard from Li - in response to my query, > thus: style_emoticons/ > > Dave ><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >>> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >>> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >>> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >>> former, what prompted you to search for them? >>> >>> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - >>> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >>> >>> TIA</span></span> > > > > "BoaterDave" <bdoftj@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eN$ru46CIHA.5856@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Good, thanks Leo! >> >> Still waiting to hear from Li, though, in response to my query. style_emoticons/ >> >> BD >> >> "Leo" <ldontwant@anymail.com> wrote in message >> news:OvrDVHWAIHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Welcome back. How was the "cruise?" >>> >>> -- >>> Leo >>> >>> Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys >>> to teenage boys." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:uqzLOCWAIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Hello Li >>>> >>>> "Troll_Lady" <TLOne@DogAgent.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23tXjnLf8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> thanks! >>>>> yes, i did go to your site and look at bug hunter. >>>>> i might add it. >>>>> it looks simple and does what it's meant to do. >>>>> TL >>>>> OH! >>>>> haha on making me nervous. i hadn't seen had so much as a tracking >>>>> cookie in a few years. >>>>> i was googling, had moderate safe search on, clicked wo checking >>>>> status. picked up 13 trackers & 2 trojan d'loaders. slipped right >>>>> through my active x turn offs into my temp files. lesson learned, no >>>>> matter how many years being 'safe' never become so blaise' i won't >>>>> forget the status bar check again. LOL! >>>>> TL >>>> >>>> I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to >>>> determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders >>>> onto your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your >>>> protection pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the >>>> former, what prompted you to search for them? >>>> >>>> I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar >>>> check' - >>>> what is it? (Google didn't help me!) >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> BD >>>> >>> >>></span> >> >> >></span> > ></span> Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Re: Ping Troll Lady Hello Li I'm still awaiting a response from you! style_emoticons/ How are you? (I hear Peter Foldes has been unwell - please give him my regards) BD "BoaterDave" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hello Li > I'd be most grateful if you would explain what programmes you used to > determine that you had inadvertently attracted two Trojan Downloaders onto > your machine. Did you actively seek to discover same or did your protection > pinpoint them automatically without your involvement? If the former, what > prompted you to search for them? > > I'd also appreciate your advice on carrying out 'the status bar check' - > what is it? (Google didn't help me!) > > TIA > > BD > > > </span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Bump! Wondering if this thread is still active style_emoticons/ Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 "~BD~" <BD.3fdckm@news.home.local> wrote in message news:BD.3fdckm@news.home.local...<span style="color:blue"> > > Bump! > > Wondering if this thread is still active style_emoticons/ > > > -- > ~BD~ > Posted via http://techhelpforum.net Forum to Usenet gateway > ></span> Seems not, using Outlook Express 6 .......... but it is still here:- http://techhelpforum.net/virus-information/90006-t...es-dilemma.html Dave -- Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 On 7 Sep, 16:05, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "~BD~" <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> wrote in messagenews:BD.3fdckm@news.home.local... ><span style="color:green"> > > Bump!</span> ><span style="color:green"> > > Wondering if this thread is still active style_emoticons/</span> ><span style="color:green"> > > -- > > ~BD~ > > Posted viahttp://techhelpforum.netForum to Usenet gateway</span> > > Seems not, using Outlook Express 6 .......... > > but it is still here:-http://techhelpforum.net/virus-information/90006-the-newbies-dilemma.html > > Dave > > --</span> Hmmm! I wonder if the thread is still active through Google Groups. Let's see! style_emoticons/ Dave -- Quote
Guest Peter Foldes Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 It is over a year old. Why bring this up. If it shows on your system then ...... sigh.... I don't know what to say to you. Time to clean up your mess Dave -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "~BD~" <BD.3fdckm@news.home.local> wrote in message news:BD.3fdckm@news.home.local...<span style="color:blue"> > > Bump! > > Wondering if this thread is still active style_emoticons/ > > > -- > ~BD~ > Posted via http://techhelpforum.net Forum to Usenet gateway ></span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O0WXWNQEJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... It is over a year old. Why bring this up. If it shows on your system then ...... sigh.... I don't know what to say to you. Time to clean up your mess Dave -- Peter Hello Peter - I trust you are well. Why bring it up again? Well, nothing has changed for newbies and as it's not been resolved, I thought maybe Dan would help me figure things out. Maybe if you were to email me (my Hotmail address is active) and suggest what I could/should do to 'clean up your mess' as you put it, some progress could be made. Please post a note here to advise me if you do email as I don't often check that address. Thank you. I'm equally happy for you to make suggestions here, though! style_emoticons/ Dave -- Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a151@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On 7 Sep, 16:05, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> "~BD~" <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> wrote in messagenews:BD.3fdckm@news.home.local... >><span style="color:darkred"> >> > Bump!</span> >><span style="color:darkred"> >> > Wondering if this thread is still active style_emoticons/</span> >><span style="color:darkred"> >> > -- >> > ~BD~ >> > Posted viahttp://techhelpforum.netForum to Usenet gateway</span> >> >> Seems not, using Outlook Express 6 .......... >> >> but it is still here:-http://techhelpforum.net/virus-information/90006-the-newbies-dilemma.html >> >> Dave >> >> --</span> > > Hmmm! > > I wonder if the thread is still active through Google Groups. > > Let's see! style_emoticons/ > > Dave > > -- ></span> It is! Wow! Does anyone know how long Microsoft leaves messages on its servers? (for these newsgroups) Dave -- Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 > Does anyone know how long Microsoft leaves messages on its servers? (for <span style="color:blue"> > these newsgroups)</span> Just because it is still cached on the web interface or "archived" by google groups, it doesn't mean it is still retained on the newsgroup server. I probably wouldn't have been able to find it if it were not for the (ugh) web interface URL you posted. Quote
Guest Richard Urban Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 If you are using Outlook Express just reset the folders on the left. This will dump all present messages and allow you to start anew. Properties | Local File | Reset -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eSDO2tQEJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:O0WXWNQEJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > It is over a year old. Why bring this up. If it shows on your system then > ...... sigh.... I don't know what to say to you. > > Time to clean up your mess Dave > > -- > Peter > > > > Hello Peter - I trust you are well. > > Why bring it up again? Well, nothing has changed for newbies and as it's > not been resolved, I thought maybe Dan would help me figure things out. > > Maybe if you were to email me (my Hotmail address is active) and suggest > what I could/should do to 'clean up your mess' as you put it, some > progress could be made. Please post a note here to advise me if you do > email as I don't often check that address. Thank you. > > I'm equally happy for you to make suggestions here, though! style_emoticons/ > > Dave > > -- > > > </span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Many thanks for your advice, Richard. style_emoticons/ Do you know how long Microsoft leaves these messages on its servers? TIA Dave -- "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eNX1heVEJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > If you are using Outlook Express just reset the folders on the left. This will dump all present > messages and allow you to start anew. > > Properties | Local File | Reset > > -- > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP > Windows Desktop Experience > > > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eSDO2tQEJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O0WXWNQEJHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> It is over a year old. Why bring this up. If it shows on your system then ...... sigh.... I >> don't know what to say to you. >> >> Time to clean up your mess Dave >> >> -- >> Peter >> >> >> >> Hello Peter - I trust you are well. >> >> Why bring it up again? Well, nothing has changed for newbies and as it's not been resolved, I >> thought maybe Dan would help me figure things out. >> >> Maybe if you were to email me (my Hotmail address is active) and suggest what I could/should do >> to 'clean up your mess' as you put it, some progress could be made. Please post a note here to >> advise me if you do email as I don't often check that address. Thank you. >> >> I'm equally happy for you to make suggestions here, though! style_emoticons/ >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> >> >></span> > > </span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message news:OXaMEQSEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> Does anyone know how long Microsoft leaves messages on its servers? (for these newsgroups)</span> > > Just because it is still cached on the web interface or > "archived" by google groups, it doesn't mean it is still > retained on the newsgroup server. > > I probably wouldn't have been able to find it if it were > not for the (ugh) web interface URL you posted. ></span> Haha! Thanks for your reply. Maybe you can help me further. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group earlier this morning in the Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook Express) the message header had a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the server. Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- It was in response to you saying .......... "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the e-mail protocols". Hmmm! <stroking chin!> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including screenshots) - there's a term for that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to be sent to me). I opened the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! Inside that file, above all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were live links to all manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of course I went and looked! <grin> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM (advertising the likes of Viagra and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, taking me to a SPAM site! I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own eyes! So there! Any thoughts? Dave -- Quote
Guest RJK Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 mmmm ! ...tried to OE "Reply to Group" to ~BD~ 's 4th post on this thread and my OE or MS rejected it with a "malformed header" ! .... ~BD~ 's security has been compromised ? ....initially attempted to post on this thread :- Several times in the past, only on rare occasions, in a MS NG, I've had an OP "bomb out" with a line through it saying that "Message is no longer available on the server," and resetting the NG in OE fixes it, and the "problem" OP is re-collected okay - though more likely a problem in my OE ! Having said that, I haven't had the "Message is no longer available on the server," "glitch" for ages. regards, Richard "~BD~" <BD.3fdckm@news.home.local> wrote in message news:BD.3fdckm@news.home.local...<span style="color:blue"> > > Bump! > > Wondering if this thread is still active style_emoticons/ > > > -- > ~BD~ > Posted via http://techhelpforum.net Forum to Usenet gateway > </span> Quote
Guest RJK Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 e.g. ? From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <efmicmI5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@bright.net> <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@bright.net> <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@bright.net> <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net> <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <epDBVsU7HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <#tXjnLf8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> <uqzLOCWAIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2892@microsoft.com> <BD.3fdckm@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a151@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The newbie's dilemma! Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0100 Lines: 43 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <OyCGtHSEJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-0-202-70.as43234.net 92.0.202.70 Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:82677 Quote
Guest BoaterDave Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 On 10 Sep, 10:57, "RJK" <notatos...@hotmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > e.g. ? > > From: "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> > References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> > <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> > <efmicmI5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> > <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> > <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@bright.net> > <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> > <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_vein...@bright.net> > <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> > <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSln...@bright.net> > <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> > <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommn...@bright.net> > <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> > <epDBVsU7HHA....@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> > <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> > <#tXjnLf8HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> > <uqzLOCWAIHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> > <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2...@microsoft.com> > <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> > <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: The newbie's dilemma! > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0100 > Lines: 43 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original > Message-ID: <OyCGtHSEJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus > NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-0-202-70.as43234.net 92.0.202.70 > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:82677</span> Hi Richard! Thanks for posting. style_emoticons/ Now - can you, or anyone else, explain just where all those 'References' have come from? Interesting 'stuff'! (to me anyway!) Dave Quote
Guest RJK Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 I haven't a clue ! ...I looked at your, (4th on this thread), post header / Properties, that I tried to "Reply to Group" with, and just wondered if any of it was what my OE / or MS GN server objected to with the "malformed header" warning ! ....and even though I copied and pasted in plain text, ...all that stuff is not appearing as it does when viewing that 4th post | properties | details | Message Source ? regards, Richard "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:cf1f6993-4d9a-43e0-b6e7-bec402c65108@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On 10 Sep, 10:57, "RJK" <notatos...@hotmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> e.g. ? >> >> From: "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> >> References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >> <efmicmI5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> >> <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@bright.net> >> <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_vein...@bright.net> >> <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSln...@bright.net> >> <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommn...@bright.net> >> <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <epDBVsU7HHA....@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <#tXjnLf8HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >> <uqzLOCWAIHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >> <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2...@microsoft.com> >> <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: The newbie's dilemma! >> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0100 >> Lines: 43 >> X-Priority: 3 >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 >> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 >> X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original >> Message-ID: <OyCGtHSEJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus >> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-0-202-70.as43234.net 92.0.202.70 >> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:82677</span> > > Hi Richard! Thanks for posting. style_emoticons/ > > Now - can you, or anyone else, explain just where all those > 'References' have come from? > > Interesting 'stuff'! (to me anyway!) > > Dave </span> Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:cf1f6993-4d9a-43e0-b6e7-bec402c65108@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On 10 Sep, 10:57, "RJK" <notatos...@hotmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> e.g. ? >> >> From: "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> >> References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >> <efmicmI5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> >> <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@bright.net> >> <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_vein...@bright.net> >> <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSln...@bright.net> >> <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommn...@bright.net> >> <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <epDBVsU7HHA....@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >> <#tXjnLf8HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >> <uqzLOCWAIHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >> <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2...@microsoft.com> >> <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >> <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: The newbie's dilemma! >> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0100 >> Lines: 43 >> X-Priority: 3 >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 >> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 >> X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original >> Message-ID: <OyCGtHSEJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus >> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-0-202-70.as43234.net 92.0.202.70 >> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:82677</span> > > Hi Richard! Thanks for posting. style_emoticons/ > > Now - can you, or anyone else, explain just where all those > 'References' have come from? > > Interesting 'stuff'! (to me anyway!)</span> That is how usenet posts are threaded - when you crosspost, dig up old posts, and change subject lines in the middle of a conversation - (and use web interfaces?) things might get a little confused. If you have a new subject - start a new thread rather than hijacking an old or current (different subject) thread. In fact even if your subject is the same as the subject of the thread the conversation may have drifted to the point that others have chosen to ignore the entire thread - starting a new one is the best option. This is not a web forum in the traditional sense where you would be asked to post within a preexisting topic structure laid out by the webmaster. Also, replying to a post from months ago probably won't help the person that made that post because that person has probably moved on by then (there is no webmaster to declare a subject as "dead" or "resolved" or whatever). Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Moved to bottom post! <span style="color:blue"> > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:cf1f6993-4d9a-43e0-b6e7-bec402c65108@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On 10 Sep, 10:57, "RJK" <notatos...@hotmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> e.g. ? >>> >>> From: "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> >>> References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >>> <efmicmI5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> >>> <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@bright.net> >>> <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_vein...@bright.net> >>> <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSln...@bright.net> >>> <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommn...@bright.net> >>> <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <epDBVsU7HHA....@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <#tXjnLf8HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>> <uqzLOCWAIHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>> <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2...@microsoft.com> >>> <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: The newbie's dilemma! >>> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0100 >>> Lines: 43 >>> X-Priority: 3 >>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 >>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 >>> X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original >>> Message-ID: <OyCGtHSEJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus >>> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-0-202-70.as43234.net 92.0.202.70 >>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:82677</span> >> >> Hi Richard! Thanks for posting. style_emoticons/ >> >> Now - can you, or anyone else, explain just where all those >> 'References' have come from? >> >> Interesting 'stuff'! (to me anyway!) >> >> Dave</span></span> -- "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OdfI4xzEJHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> >I haven't a clue ! ...I looked at your, (4th on this thread), post header / Properties, that I >tried to "Reply to Group" with, and just wondered if any of it was what my OE / or MS GN server >objected to with the "malformed header" warning ! > > ...and even though I copied and pasted in plain text, ...all that stuff is not appearing as it > does when viewing that 4th post | properties | details | Message Source ? > > regards, Richard</span> -- Hi Richard. You've no doubt noticed that when I post using Outlook Express, I'm using ~BD~ an my 'nickname'. When checking on my PC at the 4th in this thread, I see "References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>". (Same as you in the first line of References) When posting from Google Groups I use BoaterDave. On checking here, in OE, the 3rd post all the References are showing in the Properties just as you have indicated. Puzzled, I looked again at the Properties box for the post from OE. Then I noticed ... Doh! There are scroll bars! So I copied and pasted everything I could under References: and pasted it into Notepad (word wrap). This was the result: References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <efmicmI5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@bright.net> <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@bright.net> <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@bright.net> <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net> <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <epDBVsU7HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121> <#tXjnLf8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> <uqzLOCWAIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2892@microsoft.com> <BD.3fdckm@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a151@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> As far as I can tell- it is EXACTLY the same information as shown in the header from google.!!!! Hopefully then ............. Your question "... ~BD~ 's security has been compromised ?" has been answered in the negative (but one never knows! <wink!> No doubt there are complicated technical reasons for showing things in a different format, but I suspect I don't really need to know! (or do I?!!) Dave Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23LT1ad0EJHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:cf1f6993-4d9a-43e0-b6e7-bec402c65108@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On 10 Sep, 10:57, "RJK" <notatos...@hotmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> e.g. ? >>> >>> From: "~BD~" <BoaterD...@nospam.invalid> >>> References: <OdCCegf3HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <Ok#FDu$4HHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >>> <efmicmI5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <eXkj9RJ5HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> >>> <XtGdnTPldJuFQlPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@bright.net> >>> <Xns9997127BF7B03HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_vein...@bright.net> >>> <Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSln...@bright.net> >>> <Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommn...@bright.net> >>> <Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <epDBVsU7HHA....@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <Xns999F75E1EF697HHI2948AJD...@69.28.186.121> >>> <#tXjnLf8HHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>> <uqzLOCWAIHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>> <D9CF1052-EBB7-463E-974D-295D419E2...@microsoft.com> >>> <BD.3fd...@news.home.local> <u6wrvsPEJHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>> <7648cfa1-c7aa-4247-8a84-ee760fe4a...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: The newbie's dilemma! >>> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0100 >>> Lines: 43 >>> X-Priority: 3 >>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 >>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 >>> X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original >>> Message-ID: <OyCGtHSEJHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> >>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus >>> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-0-202-70.as43234.net 92.0.202.70 >>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:82677</span> >> >> Hi Richard! Thanks for posting. style_emoticons/ >> >> Now - can you, or anyone else, explain just where all those >> 'References' have come from? >> >> Interesting 'stuff'! (to me anyway!)</span> > > That is how usenet posts are threaded - when you crosspost, > dig up old posts, and change subject lines in the middle of a > conversation - (and use web interfaces?) things might get a > little confused. > > If you have a new subject - start a new thread rather than > hijacking an old or current (different subject) thread. In fact > even if your subject is the same as the subject of the thread > the conversation may have drifted to the point that others > have chosen to ignore the entire thread - starting a new one > is the best option. This is not a web forum in the traditional > sense where you would be asked to post within a preexisting > topic structure laid out by the webmaster. > > Also, replying to a post from months ago probably won't help > the person that made that post because that person has probably > moved on by then (there is no webmaster to declare a subject > as "dead" or "resolved" or whatever). > > > </span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23LT1ad0EJHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... <snip> <span style="color:blue"> > That is how usenet posts are threaded - when you crosspost, > dig up old posts, and change subject lines in the middle of a > conversation - (and use web interfaces?) things might get a > little confused. > > If you have a new subject - start a new thread rather than > hijacking an old or current (different subject) thread. In fact > even if your subject is the same as the subject of the thread > the conversation may have drifted to the point that others > have chosen to ignore the entire thread - starting a new one > is the best option. This is not a web forum in the traditional > sense where you would be asked to post within a preexisting > topic structure laid out by the webmaster. > > Also, replying to a post from months ago probably won't help > the person that made that post because that person has probably > moved on by then (there is no webmaster to declare a subject > as "dead" or "resolved" or whatever). > > ></span> All your points noted and much appreciated FTR. Thank you. You will recall this link which I posted for those very reasons: http://techhelpforum.net/virus-information/90006-t...es-dilemma.html What I had hoped was that Dan, or someone like yourself, would take the time to read, and comment maybe on all that had gone before ......... and is now but a muddle in my head! There's a clue in there somewhere though! I have a mission - and was/am looking for help and/or guidance. Additionally, it might just help others if they read the original thread. I do hope so anyway. Dave Quote
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