Guest razor_303 Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware etc. I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the software? getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... Thanks Quote
Guest Dennis Pack Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 razor_303: I've been using Nod32 for a few years without any infestations. It doesn't come with a firewall or spyware program but in Vista built-in firewall works quite well, Defender is a fair spyware program. You may add SpyBot or A-Squared (both free) for spyware. The programs listed are Vista x86, Vista x64, XP and XP x64 compatible. Have a great day. -- Dennis Pack XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 Office Professional Plus 2007 "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software? > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > Thanks </span> Quote
Guest Vigilante Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 I found Avast was the better of the systems available for anti spyware & anti virus. Very low use of resources. Any anti spyware and anti virus will slow a reboot but the system performs as well as it normally does without any AV programs installed with the Avast system installed. I tried Nortons, Trend, AVG, Macafee, PC Tools.... They all tanked my PC and processes so badly it isn't funny. Try it out. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com... I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware etc. I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the software? getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... Thanks Quote
Guest razor_303 Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 what about kaspersky's latest internet security software, i think its 7 im not sure, is it any good? "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software? > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > Thanks </span> Quote
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 razor_303 wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently > purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews > for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, > anti-spyware etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for > a while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software? > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > Thanks</span> You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will responses. I'll start by saying that I don't think any security "suite" is a good choice. It'd be better to use smaller, less-resource-draining stand-alone products. I used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all without any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that. But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they were acquired by Network Associates. However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ) and the free version of Sygate's Personal Firewall (http://smb.sygate.com/free/default.php ). Both have proven to be easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I was pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable improvement in my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec product. Of course, since then, Symantec has purchased Sygate and ended the distribution of the free firewall. Fortunately, there's still ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio, et al. A recent comparison: Retrospective / ProActive Test http://www.av-comparatives.org/ -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell Quote
Guest Victek Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently <span style="color:blue"> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software?</span> I currently use a collection of free security applications. I like the AOL AVS (rebranded Kaspersky AV 6), so if I wanted a security suite I would definitely consider Kaspersky IS7. Have a look at the web site forum to see what people are saying about it. You can also download a 30 trial of the suite and test drive it: www.kaspersky.com I've had good experiences with ZoneAlarm over the years, but unfortunately the Vista version of the free firewall really slowed down web browsing on my system. For that reason I wouldn't consider their suite. Quote
Guest Spirit Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Use the Vista Firewall Start - type WF.msc into Search if you need the advanced features. If you need or want more Firewall then get a hardware solution such as a router to use with the Windows Firewall. Another software solution is a waste of money. Use Avast as your anti-virus and turn off any of the 7 "Providers" you don't use or need regularly such as Outlook, P2P, and Instant Messaging. I use only 3 of the 7 and its easy enough to turn on one of the others as needed. (Install all 7 and then turn off the ones you will not use regularly.) Use Windows Defender and supplement with SpyBot and Lavasoft's AdAware. Use the latter two as occasional scanners. Unless you have a very unusual setup those will provide all the security you really need and you haven't spent an extra penny. "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently > purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for > the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software? > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > Thanks ></span> Quote
Guest Kayman Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... ></span> Good decision. Now do this (important!): Norton's own uninstall tool http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before proceeding. If this doesn't work use this: Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily http://www.revouninstaller.com/ and/or RegSeeker http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry then do a reboot immediately. http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt <span style="color:blue"> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc.</span> You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community...guy/cg0905.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx Jesper's Blog http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/arc...il-is-free.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/.../01/426921.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetma...ll/default.aspx "Outbound protection is security theater-it's a gimmick..." "...the Windows firewall will provide the protection you need..." Vista Firewall Control http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/ Stimulating thought from Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Forget about paid versions, free AV/A-S ware are just as efficient and reliable!" Question: "Do you think that the free AV can be really as efficient that the other ones?" Answer: "Absolutely. In fact, when it comes to real efficiency, the ability to scan accurately for viruses without getting in the way of the rest of the computer's functions, some of the free ones are more efficient than some of the most expensive. For instance, Norton and McAfee, and even Trend Micro in some packages, are among the most inefficient applications out there,whereas Avast!, AVG, and other free offerings are among the most efficient. After that, it's a question of the definitions used, and whether or not they're free has absolutely no bearing on those stats. Understand, many of the best offerings are offered to home users for free by huge companies that make their money serving business and industry clients,and their logic is that the more home machines they can get protected,preventing them from becoming zombies that distribute malware, the better off business and industry are." Real-time AV applications (choose one (1) only). Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption. In the case of Avast, choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange. Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second opinion" av scanner). BitDefender10 Free Edition http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--...ee-Edition.html A-S applications (grab'em all). The effectiveness of an individual AV A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what another may miss. SuperAntispyware - Free http://www.superantispyware.com/superantis...efreevspro.html Ad-Aware - Free http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html Spybot Search & Destroy - Free http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html Windows Defender _ Free http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx Note: Windows OneCare as an anti virus software just isn't good at all. It has the lowest catch rates. Some more useful applications: Spyware Blaster - Free http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Rootkit Revealer - Free http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern...itRevealer.mspx Crap Cleaner - Free http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities uncheck "Windows Defender" CW Shredder - Free http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popu...WShredder.shtml For your consideration: Ensure that you OS is current/updated/patched. http://www.update.microsoft.com/windowsupd...t.aspx?ln=en-us Ensure that all software on your pc is current/updated. Practice Safe-Hex http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html Read this also: So How Did I Get Infected Anyway? http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=27971 Now stay safe style_emoticons/ Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently > purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for > the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc.</span> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best product(s) in each category. It is not true that because company A makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its firewall, anti-spyware program, etc. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest razor_303 Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:096pd3hd9brvljo8dt7iaoi7c6qh0i8qet@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303" > <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews >> for >> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. >> >> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy >> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, >> anti-spyware >> etc.</span> > > > > I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or > any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best > product(s) in each category. It is not true that because company A > makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its > firewall, anti-spyware program, etc. > > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup</span> Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus programs, and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at what they do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of people that believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im willing to pay since it is for protecting my data and my school investment. thanks Quote
Guest Spirit Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Point is there aren't any better than the free ones, at least not significantly. See my previous message. "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:14E45BBF-F47C-40D8-9526-8A9347C96550@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:096pd3hd9brvljo8dt7iaoi7c6qh0i8qet@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303" >> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews >>> for >>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. >>> >>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy >>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, >>> anti-spyware >>> etc.</span> >> >> >> >> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or >> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best >> product(s) in each category. It is not true that because company A >> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its >> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc. >> >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup</span> > > > > Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus programs, > and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at what they > do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of people that > believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im willing to pay > since it is for protecting my data and my school investment. > > thanks ></span> Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:23:17 -0700, "Spirit" <noone@notthere.net> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Point is there aren't any better than the free ones, at least not significantly. > See my previous message.</span> I agree. I use the Vista firewall, the free Avast Anti-virus, and for anti-spyware, Windows Defender, Spybot Search and Destroy, and Spyware Blaster. <span style="color:blue"> > > "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:14E45BBF-F47C-40D8-9526-8A9347C96550@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> > > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > > news:096pd3hd9brvljo8dt7iaoi7c6qh0i8qet@4ax.com...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303" > >> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently > >>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews > >>> for > >>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > >>> > >>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > >>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, > >>> anti-spyware > >>> etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or > >> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best > >> product(s) in each category. It is not true that because company A > >> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its > >> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup</span> > > > > > > > > Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus programs, > > and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at what they > > do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of people that > > believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im willing to pay > > since it is for protecting my data and my school investment. > > > > thanks > ></span></span> -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... ></span> If memory and CPU usage is a concern, you should take a look at Eset's NOD32 anti-virus/anti-malware. It's well known for going easy on a computer's resources. You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost are known to work well with NOD32. Until Eset release their full security suite in v3 (currently in beta), I'd go for one of the combinations above. Links: www.eset.com www.personalfirewall.comodo.com www.agnitum.com Charlie42 Quote
Guest pauncejones Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Hi, One thing to note - Vista comes w/ an outbound FW, but it isn't on by default - it doesn't have any rules configured. To make it work, you'd have to manually configure everything yourself, which seems like a big pain. -- pauncejones Quote
Guest PTravel Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender. "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software? > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > Thanks </span> Quote
Guest Paul Adare Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, PTravel wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.</span> Windows Defender is not a firewall. -- Paul Adare MVP - Virtual Machines http://www.identit.ca Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.</span> Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all. <span style="color:blue"> > "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> > >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently > >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for > >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > > etc. > > > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > > software? > > > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > > > Thanks </span></span> -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest Victek Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 > If memory and CPU usage is a concern, you should take a look at Eset's <span style="color:blue"> > NOD32 anti-virus/anti-malware. It's well known for going easy on a > computer's resources. > > You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost > are known to work well with NOD32. > > Until Eset release their full security suite in v3 (currently in beta), > I'd go for one of the combinations above.</span> Keep in mind that Comodo's firewall for Vista is still in beta as well and pretty rough around the edges at the moment. Quote
Guest PTravel Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message news:14vzvis3dpan0.cp4bxjd9v5gc$.dlg@40tude.net...<span style="color:blue"> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, PTravel wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.</span> > > Windows Defender is not a firewall.</span> You're correct. I meant Windows Firewall. AVG will also replace all the functions provided by Defender. <span style="color:blue"> > > -- > Paul Adare > MVP - Virtual Machines > http://www.identit.ca > Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. </span> Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 "Victek" <Victek@xyz.com> wrote in news:Oqhkcoz7HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > Keep in mind that Comodo's firewall for Vista is still in beta as well and > pretty rough around the edges at the moment.</span> Sorry about that, Victek is right. Comodo PF 3 should be used only for testing at the moment. Outpost for Vista is also beta. However, NOD32 in it's current version 2.7 works with Vista. It's the upcoming Eset Smart Security suite who is still in beta. Charlie42 Quote
Guest VistaGeek Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few months now! No impact on system. Good value for two licences VG "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:28jrd3hn7tqotjvt3udp57l4vaue6i743k@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel" > <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.</span> > > > Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all. > > ><span style="color:green"> >> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews >> >for >> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. >> > >> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can >> > buy >> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, >> > anti-spyware >> > etc. >> > >> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've >> > tried >> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for >> > a >> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either >> > >> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the >> > software? >> > >> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... >> > >> > Thanks</span></span> > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup </span> Quote
Guest razor_303 Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 ok thanks, i think i'll go out and do some research on my own on AVG, kasperky, and zonealarm. "VistaGeek" <vista.geek@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:uzdF8h%237HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> >I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few >months now! No impact on system. Good value for two licences > > VG > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:28jrd3hn7tqotjvt3udp57l4vaue6i743k@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel" >> <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.</span> >> >> >> Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all. >> >> >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com... >>> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my >>> >recently >>> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews >>> >for >>> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. >>> > >>> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can >>> > buy >>> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, >>> > anti-spyware >>> > etc. >>> > >>> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've >>> > tried >>> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton >>> > for a >>> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either >>> > >>> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the >>> > software? >>> > >>> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... >>> > >>> > Thanks</span> >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup</span> > </span> Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:13:29 +0100, "VistaGeek" <vista.geek@btinternet.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few > months now! </span> Your choice, of course. My view is that no matter how well something works, it's always possible that something else could work better. Just because you haven't had any problems with it doesn't mean it's the best possible choice. <span style="color:blue"> > No impact on system. </span> But that's flat out impossible. Anything you run has an impact on system performance. Some things have more of an impact than others, and some have a small enough impact on performance that you don't notice it. But nothing has a zero impact. In this case, I would suspect that the impact is greater than you realize. <span style="color:blue"> > Good value for two licences</span> Perhaps. A much better value is freeware. And there's lots of good freeware around to compete with it. <span style="color:blue"> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:28jrd3hn7tqotjvt3udp57l4vaue6i743k@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel" > > <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote: > ><span style="color:darkred"> > >> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.</span> > > > > > > Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all. > > > > > ><span style="color:darkred"> > >> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com... > >> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently > >> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews > >> >for > >> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > >> > > >> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can > >> > buy > >> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, > >> > anti-spyware > >> > etc. > >> > > >> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've > >> > tried > >> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for > >> > a > >> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > >> > > >> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > >> > software? > >> > > >> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > >> > > >> > Thanks</span> > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup </span></span> -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest Donald McDaniel Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. > > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware > etc. > > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either > > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the > software? > > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... > > Thanks</span> I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night. Here's my take on it: 1) Takes too much control away from the OS. 2) Takes too much control away from the user. 3) Too ponderous. 4) Too complicated. Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite: 1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't even install under Vista). 2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent. 3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008 4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than a unified Security Suite. 5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista! Donald McDaniel Quote
Guest razor_303 Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 "Donald McDaniel" <orthocross@comcast.invalid> wrote in message news:2D06E851-1F0D-4463-8D93-A9A17377FECA@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently >>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews >>for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it. >> >> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy >> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, >> anti-spyware etc. >> >> I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried >> those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a >> while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either >> >> Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the >> software? >> >> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory... >> >> Thanks</span> > > > I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night. > Here's my take on it: > > 1) Takes too much control away from the OS. > 2) Takes too much control away from the user. > 3) Too ponderous. > 4) Too complicated. > > Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite: > 1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't > even install under Vista). > 2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent. > 3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008 > 4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than > a unified Security Suite. > 5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista! > > Donald McDaniel</span> Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32 companie's website? ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software Quote
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