Guest Sadie Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - Symantec, I see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to do for the Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed and working well? Appreciate! Sadie Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and > and Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - > Symantec, I see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to > do for the Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed > and working well?</span> Under the assumption Norton 360 itself reports to be up and running: There is a general fix that can solve the problem with Vista reporting malware protection is missing, although it is present. All commands are typed in at the command prompt, you need to run as administrator: Method 1: winmgmt /verifyrepository If WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent, run the following command: winmgmt /salvagerepository Method 2: net stop winmgmt /y cd %windir%\system32\wbem ren repository repository.old Then reboot the computer. Charlie42 Quote
Guest Dwarf Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Sadie, This is one of the reasons why Norton products are not recommended for use with Vista by several people who frequent these newsgroups. If you check the newsgroups, you will find numerous posts concerning Norton and McAfee products. I myself used to use Norton Internet Security 2007 with the Vista compatibility update and, despite installing Visat and NIS2007 the same way a number of times, some of the times it used to integrate with Vista's Security Center and sometimes it did not, for no apparent reason. There was no difference in how I installed it, and I did not connect to any network until after I had installed it. Needless to sya, I no longer use Norton and now use Kaspersky. Dwarf "Sadie" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and > Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - Symantec, I > see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to do for the > Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed and working well? > Appreciate! Sadie</span> Quote
Guest Kayman Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:21:04 -0800, Sadie wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and > Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - Symantec, I > see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to do for the > Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed and working well? > Appreciate! Sadie</span> The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it using Norton's own uninstall tool http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 and get a refund style_emoticons/ As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before proceeding. Or http://www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_T...mNRT_d4749.html If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this: Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily http://www.revouninstaller.com/ and/or RegSeeker http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and very effective but suggest not to use the 'Clean the Registry' option. Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type Norton ; The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case, ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by typing in the Search for' box Symantec . You can then go on search and remove associated files as well. Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions. http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ (Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.) Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free http://www.eset.com/ Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"? http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509 Quote
Guest SG Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 Hi Kayman, Have you used NTREGOPT with Vista? Doesn't seem to be supported and I really do think these programs are useless and can be dangerous. http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.d...nt/ntregopt.txt I would be very cautious when someone states: Quote: Question: Should I disable Windows XP's System Restore function when using ERUNT? Answer: Yes! Though System Restore backs up more than just the registry, the registry is essentially all you need to revert your system to a previous state. End Quote http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/faq.htm -- All the best, SG ALEX NICHOL (1935-2005) http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm You will never be forgotten my friend "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message news:eFcy7RmeIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:21:04 -0800, Sadie wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and >> Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - >> Symantec, I >> see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to do for the >> Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed and working >> well? >> Appreciate! Sadie</span> > > The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it > using Norton's own uninstall tool > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 > and get a refund style_emoticons/ > As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before > proceeding. > Or > http://www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_T...mNRT_d4749.html > > If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this: > Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily > http://www.revouninstaller.com/ > and/or > RegSeeker > http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm > RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and > folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and > very effective but suggest not to use the 'Clean the Registry' option. > Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type Norton ; > The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case, > ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by > typing in the Search for' box Symantec . You can then go on search and > remove associated files as well. > Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions. > http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt > > Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free > http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html > > Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition > http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident > Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) > > AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition > http://free.grisoft.com/ > (Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.) > > Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free > http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser > > ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free > http://www.eset.com/ > Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"? > http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509 </span> Quote
Guest Kayman Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:23:26 -0500, SG wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi Kayman, > > Have you used NTREGOPT with Vista? > Doesn't seem to be supported and I really do think these programs are > useless and can be dangerous.</span> Based on what...your thinking? You've got to be kidding! ERUNT and NTREGOPT Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Question: Do ERUNT and NTREGOPT run on Windows Vista? Answer: Yes. To make sure the programs are executed with proper administrative privileges, you should however turn off User Account Control in Vista¢s system settings.<span style="color:blue"> > > I would be very cautious when someone states: > Quote: > Question: Should I disable Windows XP's System Restore function when using > ERUNT? > Answer: Yes! Though System Restore backs up more than just the registry, the > registry is essentially all you need to revert your system to a previous > state. > End Quote</span> Re-read my post; I never suggested to use ERUNT (but I use both utilities without any problems) Quote
Guest SG Posted March 1, 2008 Posted March 1, 2008 >>>I never suggested to use ERUNT<<< Nope you didn't and I missed that, my apologies. <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>>Based on what...your thinking? You've got to be kidding!<<<</span></span></span> Well lets see here Kayman, maybe I should have said something besides "THINK" and suggested after my 18 some years with computer experience, would that suite you better? <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>>(but I use both utilities without any problems)<<<</span></span></span> So, because you didn't have problems that makes these two programs SAFE?, you got to be kidding :>). I wasn't after you Kayman for what you posted, not sure why, but it seems to me you took this personally and that's not the case at all. When I see these snake oil programs and that's all they are, I simply point out they are dangerous. It's been debated for years and probably always will be about compacting the registry and in my professional opinion it doesn't amount to a grain of salt. Do some of these programs really work? I'm sure some do and I know in Win98 Scanreg /Fix and Opt did indeed reduce the size of the Registry. The question was, is it noticeable enough for the user to tell and in many test done by me and many others years was no. BTW, in Win98 and WinMe if the Registry contain more than 500 KB of empty data blocks, Windows Registry Checker automatically optimized it. When I see things like: "You may want to disable the tracker to avoid this message in the future (see the Windows help for information on how to do this)" this is referring to the NTREGOPT sometimes fails with error 1450. Right, now lets turn off Tracker so we can run his program without the error not really knowing what other problems this my cause the user and if it did no one would know what or where this new error may be coming from. " To make sure the programs are executed with proper administrative privileges, you should however turn off User Account Control in Vista's system settings " Nothing at all about turning off UAC and the dangers this can cause, for example, the problem lies when turning off UAC after Vista has been used for a while with UAC turned on. Vista intercepts any file operations that attempts to write to a Program Files directory for a specific app, like when a program tries to create a saved file for example. These files are virtualized to a special Program Data folder instead. If you save a file and then turn off UAC, virtualization is also turned off. So then the program can not find the saved file. This can also happen with anything else the application tries to store in its program files directory. You can Google "dangers turning off UAC" and find many reasons NOT to turn it off. I find it amazing the author suggest totally disabling one of the best security features ever in windows only to compact the Registry that supposedly speeds up the system. WOW what a trade off, lets all get infected with Spyware, Trojans and Viruses, but not to worry, with our Registry compacted it will make getting rid of these pest much faster. "Should I disable Windows XP's System Restore function when using ERUNT? Yes! Though System Restore backs up more than just the registry, the registry is essentially all you need to revert your system to a previous state." Now you ask me if I was kidding and you should have ask the author. Disable XP's System Restore for what? to save a little hard drive space? man this is unbelievable. He says the registry is essentially all you need to revert your system to a previous state. Humm, well I guess MS screwed up when they added all the other features that go along with System Restore eh? Hard Drive space is just about a thing of the past and as cheap as they are now no one should be to worried about space. DVD's, CD Writers, Memory Cards and 8 Gig pocket drives at Wal-Mart for $79.00, USB to IDE/SATA cables drives makes it easy for more than enough backup space. Well enough said and again I do apologize if I worded my post to the extent if offended you, it surely wasn't meant to be that way. You can have the last word as I will be moving on and sorry to the OP for high-jacking this thread. -- All the best, SG ALEX NICHOL (1935-2005) http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm You will never be forgotten my friend "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message news:ea4FW7yeIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Quote
Guest Kayman Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:08:27 -0500, SG wrote: <drivel snipped><span style="color:blue"> > Well enough said </span> indeed<span style="color:blue"> > and again I do apologize</span> not needed as I was never offended Quote
Guest Sadie Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 -- Sadie "Charlie42" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and > > and Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - > > Symantec, I see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to > > do for the Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed > > and working well?</span> > > Under the assumption Norton 360 itself reports to be up and running: > There is a general fix that can solve the problem with Vista reporting > malware protection is missing, although it is present. All commands are > typed in at the command prompt, you need to run as administrator: > > Method 1: > > winmgmt /verifyrepository > > If WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent, run the following command: > > winmgmt /salvagerepository > > Method 2: > > net stop winmgmt /y > cd %windir%system32wbem > ren repository repository.old > > Then reboot the computer. > > Charlie42</span> Appreciate your reply. With my tech skills, I will leave as is for now; hopefully Norton 360 will improve eventually. Had difficult time removing Norton Internet Security 2007 to install Norton 360; mission accomplished & pleased. All things will never be perfect! Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Appreciate your reply. With my tech skills, I will leave as is for now; > hopefully Norton 360 will improve eventually. Had difficult time removing > Norton Internet Security 2007 to install Norton 360; mission accomplished > & pleased. All things will never be perfect!</span> I can not help myself (rant of the day follows): Not with Symantec products anyway. Norton really is not the best security software around, it is also has a huge footprint and comes jam packed with bloatware few need. Next time your subscription is up for renewal, you should honestly consider obtaining a different solution. (Rant finished.) Search this group for "best anti virus", "best anti spyware", "best security" an so on, and you will find good recommendations. What you need is an anti virus, an additional anti spyware (you already have Windows Defender) and a firewall (the built in Windows Firewall serves most home user's needs just fine). Enable your router firewall if you have one, it makes an excellent first line of defense, and educate yourself on online do's and don'ts. Microsoft Security at Home: http://www.microsoft.com/protect/default.mspx I am sorry my previous post appeared a wee bit too technical, command line work can be a bit advanced. If your problems persist, you should take your computer to a professional and have him or her take a look at it. As for removing Norton products, Symantec offers a removal tool. Perhaps you are already aware of it. You may have to run it 2-3 times in order to to wipe out your system properly, sadly even then Norton may leave residue behind. Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 Charlie42 Quote
Guest Sadie Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 -- Sadie "Charlie42" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Appreciate your reply. With my tech skills, I will leave as is for now; > > hopefully Norton 360 will improve eventually. Had difficult time removing > > Norton Internet Security 2007 to install Norton 360; mission accomplished > > & pleased. All things will never be perfect!</span> > > I can not help myself (rant of the day follows): Not with Symantec products > anyway. Norton really is not the best security software around, it is also > has a huge footprint and comes jam packed with bloatware few need. Next time > your subscription is up for renewal, you should honestly consider obtaining > a different solution. (Rant finished.) > > Search this group for "best anti virus", "best anti spyware", "best > security" an so on, and you will find good recommendations. What you need is > an anti virus, an additional anti spyware (you already have Windows > Defender) and a firewall (the built in Windows Firewall serves most home > user's needs just fine). Enable your router firewall if you have one, it > makes an excellent first line of defense, and educate yourself on online > do's and don'ts. > > Microsoft Security at Home: > http://www.microsoft.com/protect/default.mspx > > I am sorry my previous post appeared a wee bit too technical, command line > work can be a bit advanced. If your problems persist, you should take your > computer to a professional and have him or her take a look at it. > > As for removing Norton products, Symantec offers a removal tool. Perhaps you > are already aware of it. You may have to run it 2-3 times in order to to > wipe out your system properly, sadly even then Norton may leave residue > behind. > > Norton Removal Tool: > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 > > Charlie42 > > THANKS! Will pursue when N360 expires. Also well aware of the Norton Removal Tools needing to be run several times.</span> Quote
Guest Bob Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Don't wait until N360 expires. It's foolish to do so if it's causing problems. Replace Norton with the free AVG http://free.grisoft.com/ or Avast http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html, and Windows Firewall and Windows Defender. Disabling Norton is not enough. You need to completely uninstall it. If it doesn't solve the problem, get rid of Norton anyway. Norton is known to cause many problems in Vista and they don’t always appear immediately. Download and run the Norton Removal Tool. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F9DC907E-925F-4DDF-A1D3-78DD86CBF93C@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > -- > Sadie > > > "Charlie42" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >> > Appreciate your reply. With my tech skills, I will leave as is for >> > now; >> > hopefully Norton 360 will improve eventually. Had difficult time >> > removing >> > Norton Internet Security 2007 to install Norton 360; mission >> > accomplished >> > & pleased. All things will never be perfect!</span> >> >> I can not help myself (rant of the day follows): Not with Symantec >> products >> anyway. Norton really is not the best security software around, it is >> also >> has a huge footprint and comes jam packed with bloatware few need. Next >> time >> your subscription is up for renewal, you should honestly consider >> obtaining >> a different solution. (Rant finished.) >> >> Search this group for "best anti virus", "best anti spyware", "best >> security" an so on, and you will find good recommendations. What you need >> is >> an anti virus, an additional anti spyware (you already have Windows >> Defender) and a firewall (the built in Windows Firewall serves most home >> user's needs just fine). Enable your router firewall if you have one, it >> makes an excellent first line of defense, and educate yourself on online >> do's and don'ts. >> >> Microsoft Security at Home: >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/default.mspx >> >> I am sorry my previous post appeared a wee bit too technical, command >> line >> work can be a bit advanced. If your problems persist, you should take >> your >> computer to a professional and have him or her take a look at it. >> >> As for removing Norton products, Symantec offers a removal tool. Perhaps >> you >> are already aware of it. You may have to run it 2-3 times in order to to >> wipe out your system properly, sadly even then Norton may leave residue >> behind. >> >> Norton Removal Tool: >> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 >> >> Charlie42 >> >> THANKS! Will pursue when N360 expires. Also well aware of the Norton >> Removal Tools needing to be run several times. </span></span> Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 "Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Don't wait until N360 expires. It's foolish to do so if it's causing > problems</span> Norton is not causing her problems, it is just not integrating with the Security Center. This is an error that occasionally occurs with many different AV's, due to repository issues. It is a problem with Vista. Charlie42 Quote
Guest asmodeus Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Could someone give me some plain language help please? When I bought Norton 360, I thought it would replace the Windows defender series and that this would be a good thing to do. Clearly some people do not rate Norton, so would it be best for me to: 1) Use Windows Defender only, for firewall, anti-virus etc etc, or 2) Use Norton for anti-virus and windows for everything else? or 3) Find another anti-virus and use it alongside Windows Defender for everything else? Should I then also discard the other packages I have bought, including my registry organiser and the ant-Spyware package. There is so much stuff on the market, some guidance on an effective line-up would be great. Thank you. "SG" wrote: <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > >>>I never suggested to use ERUNT<<<</span></span> > > Nope you didn't and I missed that, my apologies. > <span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > >>>Based on what...your thinking? You've got to be kidding!<<<</span></span> > > Well lets see here Kayman, maybe I should have said something besides > "THINK" and suggested after my 18 some years with computer experience, would > that suite you better? > <span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > >>>(but I use both utilities without any problems)<<<</span></span> > > So, because you didn't have problems that makes these two programs SAFE?, > you got to be kidding :>). I wasn't after you Kayman for what you posted, > not sure why, but it seems to me you took this personally and that's not the > case at all. When I see these snake oil programs and that's all they are, I > simply point out they are dangerous. It's been debated for years and > probably always will be about compacting the registry and in my professional > opinion it doesn't amount to a grain of salt. Do some of these programs > really work? I'm sure some do and I know in Win98 Scanreg /Fix and Opt did > indeed reduce the size of the Registry. The question was, is it noticeable > enough for the user to tell and in many test done by me and many others > years was no. BTW, in Win98 and WinMe if the Registry contain more than 500 > KB of empty data blocks, Windows Registry Checker automatically optimized > it. > > When I see things like: > "You may want to disable the tracker to avoid this message in the future > (see the Windows help for information on how to do this)" this is referring > to the NTREGOPT sometimes fails with error 1450. > > Right, now lets turn off Tracker so we can run his program without the error > not really knowing what other problems this my cause the user and if it did > no one would know what or where this new error may be coming from. > > > " To make sure the programs are executed with proper administrative > privileges, you should however turn off User Account Control in Vista's > system settings " > > Nothing at all about turning off UAC and the dangers this can cause, for > example, the problem lies when turning off UAC after Vista has been used for > a while with UAC turned on. Vista intercepts any file operations that > attempts to write to a Program Files directory for a specific app, like when > a program tries to create a saved file for example. These files are > virtualized to a special Program Data folder instead. If you save a file and > then turn off UAC, virtualization is also turned off. So then the program > can not find the saved file. This can also happen with anything else the > application tries to store in its program files directory. You can Google > "dangers turning off UAC" and find many reasons NOT to turn it off. I find > it amazing the author suggest totally disabling one of the best security > features ever in windows only to compact the Registry that supposedly speeds > up the system. WOW what a trade off, lets all get infected with Spyware, > Trojans and Viruses, but not to worry, with our Registry compacted it will > make getting rid of these pest much faster. > > > "Should I disable Windows XP's System Restore function when using ERUNT? > Yes! Though System Restore backs up more than just the registry, the > registry is essentially all you need to revert your system to a previous > state." > > Now you ask me if I was kidding and you should have ask the author. Disable > XP's System Restore for what? to save a little hard drive space? man this is > unbelievable. He says the registry is essentially all you need to revert > your system to a previous state. Humm, well I guess MS screwed up when they > added all the other features that go along with System Restore eh? Hard > Drive space is just about a thing of the past and as cheap as they are now > no one should be to worried about space. DVD's, CD Writers, Memory Cards and > 8 Gig pocket drives at Wal-Mart for $79.00, USB to IDE/SATA cables drives > makes it easy for more than enough backup space. > > Well enough said and again I do apologize if I worded my post to the extent > if offended you, it surely wasn't meant to be that way. You can have the > last word as I will be moving on and sorry to the OP for high-jacking this > thread. > > > -- > All the best, > SG > > ALEX NICHOL > (1935-2005) > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm > You will never be forgotten my friend > > "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message > news:ea4FW7yeIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > </span> Quote
Guest Bob Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 What do you mean by "registry organiser"? Do you mean "registry cleaner"? DO NOT use registry cleaners! See this: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 Replace Norton with the free AVG http://free.grisoft.com/ or Avast http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html, and Windows Firewall and Windows Defender. Norton is known to cause many problems in Vista which don’t always appear immediately. Download and run the Norton Removal Tool. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 It's called "360" because Symantec's goal is complete ownership of your computer, and with even less communication about what it's trying to do or ways to configure it than ever before (which would only interfere with its goal.) That, along with Symantec's famous technical support, makes Norton 360 a disaster that I would only install on Granny's computer if she was going to disinherit me. ------- Report back, please [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to so that others may learn and benefit from the issue] [How to ask a question] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "asmodeus" <asmodeus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AC876A68-0C29-4BA5-9955-82C4A7215D46@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Could someone give me some plain language help please? When I bought > Norton > 360, I thought it would replace the Windows defender series and that this > would be a good thing to do. Clearly some people do not rate Norton, so > would > it be best for me to: > > 1) Use Windows Defender only, for firewall, anti-virus etc etc, or 2) Use > Norton for anti-virus and windows for everything else? or 3) Find another > anti-virus and use it alongside Windows Defender for everything else? > Should > I then also discard the other packages I have bought, including my > registry > organiser and the ant-Spyware package. There is so much stuff on the > market, > some guidance on an effective line-up would be great. Thank you. > > "SG" wrote: ><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >> >>>I never suggested to use ERUNT<<<</span> >> >> Nope you didn't and I missed that, my apologies. >><span style="color:darkred"> >> >>>Based on what...your thinking? You've got to be kidding!<<<</span> >> >> Well lets see here Kayman, maybe I should have said something besides >> "THINK" and suggested after my 18 some years with computer experience, >> would >> that suite you better? >><span style="color:darkred"> >> >>>(but I use both utilities without any problems)<<<</span> >> >> So, because you didn't have problems that makes these two programs SAFE?, >> you got to be kidding :>). I wasn't after you Kayman for what you posted, >> not sure why, but it seems to me you took this personally and that's not >> the >> case at all. When I see these snake oil programs and that's all they are, >> I >> simply point out they are dangerous. It's been debated for years and >> probably always will be about compacting the registry and in my >> professional >> opinion it doesn't amount to a grain of salt. Do some of these programs >> really work? I'm sure some do and I know in Win98 Scanreg /Fix and Opt >> did >> indeed reduce the size of the Registry. The question was, is it >> noticeable >> enough for the user to tell and in many test done by me and many others >> years was no. BTW, in Win98 and WinMe if the Registry contain more than >> 500 >> KB of empty data blocks, Windows Registry Checker automatically optimized >> it. >> >> When I see things like: >> "You may want to disable the tracker to avoid this message in the future >> (see the Windows help for information on how to do this)" this is >> referring >> to the NTREGOPT sometimes fails with error 1450. >> >> Right, now lets turn off Tracker so we can run his program without the >> error >> not really knowing what other problems this my cause the user and if it >> did >> no one would know what or where this new error may be coming from. >> >> >> " To make sure the programs are executed with proper administrative >> privileges, you should however turn off User Account Control in Vista's >> system settings " >> >> Nothing at all about turning off UAC and the dangers this can cause, for >> example, the problem lies when turning off UAC after Vista has been used >> for >> a while with UAC turned on. Vista intercepts any file operations that >> attempts to write to a Program Files directory for a specific app, like >> when >> a program tries to create a saved file for example. These files are >> virtualized to a special Program Data folder instead. If you save a file >> and >> then turn off UAC, virtualization is also turned off. So then the program >> can not find the saved file. This can also happen with anything else the >> application tries to store in its program files directory. You can Google >> "dangers turning off UAC" and find many reasons NOT to turn it off. I >> find >> it amazing the author suggest totally disabling one of the best security >> features ever in windows only to compact the Registry that supposedly >> speeds >> up the system. WOW what a trade off, lets all get infected with Spyware, >> Trojans and Viruses, but not to worry, with our Registry compacted it >> will >> make getting rid of these pest much faster. >> >> >> "Should I disable Windows XP's System Restore function when using ERUNT? >> Yes! Though System Restore backs up more than just the registry, the >> registry is essentially all you need to revert your system to a previous >> state." >> >> Now you ask me if I was kidding and you should have ask the author. >> Disable >> XP's System Restore for what? to save a little hard drive space? man this >> is >> unbelievable. He says the registry is essentially all you need to revert >> your system to a previous state. Humm, well I guess MS screwed up when >> they >> added all the other features that go along with System Restore eh? Hard >> Drive space is just about a thing of the past and as cheap as they are >> now >> no one should be to worried about space. DVD's, CD Writers, Memory Cards >> and >> 8 Gig pocket drives at Wal-Mart for $79.00, USB to IDE/SATA cables drives >> makes it easy for more than enough backup space. >> >> Well enough said and again I do apologize if I worded my post to the >> extent >> if offended you, it surely wasn't meant to be that way. You can have the >> last word as I will be moving on and sorry to the OP for high-jacking >> this >> thread. >> >> >> -- >> All the best, >> SG >> >> ALEX NICHOL >> (1935-2005) >> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm >> You will never be forgotten my friend >> >> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message >> news:ea4FW7yeIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> </span></span> Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:46:01 -0700, asmodeus <asmodeus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Could someone give me some plain language help please? When I bought Norton > 360, I thought it would replace the Windows defender series and that this > would be a good thing to do. Clearly some people do not rate Norton, so would > it be best for me to: > > 1) Use Windows Defender only, for firewall, anti-virus etc etc, or </span> No. Windows Defender is neither a firewall, nor an anti-virus program. It is an anti-spyware program. <span style="color:blue"> > 2) Use Norton for anti-virus and windows for everything else?</span> No. In my opinion, Norton is the worst security software on the market. <span style="color:blue"> > 3) Find another > anti-virus and use it alongside Windows Defender for everything else? </span> Yes. I recommend the freeware Avast! anti-virus. Or if you want to pay for a product, NOD32 or Kaspersky are well-respected. But that's not enough. A single anti-spyware program like Defender isn't good enough. Note what Eric Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware products, states: "No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the best-performing anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one quarter of the "critical" files and Registry entries" See http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm <span style="color:blue"> > Should > I then also discard the other packages I have bought, including my registry > organiser </span> What's a "registry organizer"? Specifically, what's the name of the program? Is this a registry cleaner ? If so, note that registry cleaning programs are all snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may have. <span style="color:blue"> > and the ant-Spyware package. </span> Which anti-spyware package? There are many and they are not all equally good. I recommend having at least two good ones. See the quote from Eric Howes above. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest John Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: McAfee not recognized as Malware Protection I am using Windows VISTA, Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection is not found (turned off) Upon accessing McAfee SecurityCenter, McAfee VirusScan and Personal Firewall are turned on. I tried under administrator mode: Method 1:<span style="color:blue"> > > winmgmt /verifyrepository > > WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent is the ressult.</span> Then I tried <span style="color:blue"> > > winmgmt /salvagerepository</span> WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent is the ressult. Should I reinstall my virus software downloaded from the vendor (McAfee)? Please advise what to do for Vista to recognize my McAfee anti-virous software <span style="color:blue"> > </span> "Charlie42" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and > > and Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - > > Symantec, I see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to > > do for the Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed > > and working well?</span> > > Under the assumption Norton 360 itself reports to be up and running: > There is a general fix that can solve the problem with Vista reporting > malware protection is missing, although it is present. All commands are > typed in at the command prompt, you need to run as administrator: > > Method 1: > > winmgmt /verifyrepository > > If WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent, run the following command: > > winmgmt /salvagerepository > > Method 2: > > net stop winmgmt /y > cd %windir%system32wbem > ren repository repository.old > > Then reboot the computer. > > Charlie42 > </span> Quote
Guest Erik_Steger Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 For me, the method proposed here worked at first attempt. "Sadie" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > > -- > Sadie > > > "Charlie42" wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > "Sadie" <Sadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > <span style="color:darkred"> > > > Upon accessing Windows Security Center, I see both Virus Protection and > > > and Spyware are both turned Off. Upon accessing Security Provider - > > > Symantec, I see only Norton Internet Security listed. What do we need to > > > do for the Windows Security Center to acknowledge Norton 360 installed > > > and working well?</span> > > > > Under the assumption Norton 360 itself reports to be up and running: > > There is a general fix that can solve the problem with Vista reporting > > malware protection is missing, although it is present. All commands are > > typed in at the command prompt, you need to run as administrator: > > > > Method 1: > > > > winmgmt /verifyrepository > > > > If WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent, run the following command: > > > > winmgmt /salvagerepository > > > > Method 2: > > > > net stop winmgmt /y > > cd %windir%system32wbem > > ren repository repository.old > > > > Then reboot the computer. > > > > Charlie42</span> > > Appreciate your reply. With my tech skills, I will leave as is for now; > hopefully Norton 360 will improve eventually. Had difficult time removing > Norton Internet Security 2007 to install Norton 360; mission accomplished & > pleased. All things will never be perfect!</span> Quote
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