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Guest hypnotix911
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Enterprise three-tier CA hierarchy on virtual machines?

Or any part of hierarchy (offline or online CAs )? Is it bad idea?

Any thoughts?

Tnx a lot.

Guest Dobromir Todorov
Posted

I don't think it is a bad idea - actually, considering the amount of

computational resources required on a CA, it is probably a good idea to have

all of them on small virtual machines.

 

The only thing that comes to mind is the fact that the CA private key and

other sensitive information better be stored on HSMs (should they be

supported on VM - which I doubt), or SmartCards (these are supported, if

connected to a USB slot). If the private key or other sensitive info is

stored locally on the VM, considering the fact that the VM is just a file,

then stealing the file is equivalent to breaking phusical security on real

servers.

 

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HTH,

Dobromir

 

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"hypnotix911" <hypnotix911@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Enterprise three-tier CA hierarchy on virtual machines?

> Or any part of hierarchy (offline or online CAs )? Is it bad idea?

> Any thoughts?

> Tnx a lot.

> </span>

Guest Brian Komar \(MVP\)
Posted

Only if you use a network attached HSM to protect the CA private keys

Brian

 

"hypnotix911" <hypnotix911@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Enterprise three-tier CA hierarchy on virtual machines?

> Or any part of hierarchy (offline or online CAs )? Is it bad idea?

> Any thoughts?

> Tnx a lot.

> </span>

Guest hypnotix911
Posted

Thank you both,

but what about using bitlocker on VM files?

(we don't have a budget for HSM)

 

 

 

 

"hypnotix911" <hypnotix911@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Enterprise three-tier CA hierarchy on virtual machines?

> Or any part of hierarchy (offline or online CAs )? Is it bad idea?

> Any thoughts?

> Tnx a lot.

> </span>

Guest Brian Komar \(MVP\)
Posted

That does not protect the private keys.

Any body who is local Admin can:

1) Export the CA's private key and certificate

2) Import it into any computer they want

3) Issue a certificate that your org trusts and cannot revoke from the CA

console

What type of business are you in. Are you sure that you are making the right

decision.

But, to summarize, BitLocker does not replace a HSM

Brian

 

"hypnotix911" <hypnotix911@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Thank you both,

> but what about using bitlocker on VM files?

> (we don't have a budget for HSM)

>

>

>

>

> "hypnotix911" <hypnotix911@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>> Enterprise three-tier CA hierarchy on virtual machines?

>> Or any part of hierarchy (offline or online CAs )? Is it bad idea?

>> Any thoughts?

>> Tnx a lot.

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> </span>

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