Guest Donchano Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm not posting to the right group. Please let me know. Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed) OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online. Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software. The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes. When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem. Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these problems on my PC. Quote
Guest Spirit Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Use the Windows Firewall until after SP1 in installed.... and I doubt she needs more than it anyway. Update ALL drivers before attempting SP1. http://snipurl.com/22cqz [www_csd_toshiba_com] Select your model here. "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:gv30v3lgq1nigothgf405psfhg35nspc2t@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm > not posting to the right group. Please let me know. > > Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop > OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed) > > OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I > helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online. > > Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a > firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as > well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software. > > The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes. > > When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me > that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled > Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem. > > Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer > would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these > problems on my PC. > > </span> Quote
Guest Spirit Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Also to install A|NY programs in Vista - RIGHT CLICK on program and select RUN AS ADMIN. "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:gv30v3lgq1nigothgf405psfhg35nspc2t@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm > not posting to the right group. Please let me know. > > Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop > OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed) > > OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I > helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online. > > Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a > firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as > well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software. > > The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes. > > When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me > that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled > Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem. > > Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer > would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these > problems on my PC. > > </span> Quote
Guest Spirit Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Also to install A|NY programs in Vista - RIGHT CLICK on program and select RUN AS ADMIN. "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:gv30v3lgq1nigothgf405psfhg35nspc2t@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm > not posting to the right group. Please let me know. > > Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop > OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed) > > OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I > helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online. > > Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a > firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as > well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software. > > The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes. > > When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me > that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled > Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem. > > Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer > would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these > problems on my PC. > > </span> Quote
Guest Donchano Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:37:55 -0700, "Spirit" <noone@notthere.net> magnanimously proffered: <span style="color:blue"> >Also to install A|NY programs in Vista - RIGHT CLICK on >program and select RUN AS ADMIN.</span> Many thanks. That solved the problem. <span style="color:blue"> > >"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >news:gv30v3lgq1nigothgf405psfhg35nspc2t@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> >> Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop >> OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed) >> >> Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a >> firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as >> well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software. >> >> The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes. >> >> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me >> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled >> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem. >> >> Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer >> would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these >> problems on my PC. >> >> </span></span> Quote
Guest C.B. Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:gv30v3lgq1nigothgf405psfhg35nspc2t@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm > not posting to the right group. Please let me know. > > Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop > OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed) > > OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I > helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online. > > Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a > firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as > well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software. > > The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes. > > When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me > that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled > Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem. > > Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer > would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these > problems on my PC. > ></span> Donchano, A little advice about Comodo's firewall: Since November of 2007 I had many problems installing updates from WU. The updates would install successfully but then some time after a reboot the updates would uninstall and then become available again. I could only install the updates after completely uninstalling the Comodo firewall first. I would then reinstall Comodo. If you have future problems with updates not installing, or installing and then becoming available for installation again you should try completely uninstalling your Comodo firewall prior to updating. Comodo informed me many times that the problems were fixed but I found this to be untrue. Perhaps Comodo has finally fixed the problem. I don't know because I won't use their firewall again. I am satisfied with the native Windows firewall. Please don't misunderstand me. I think Comodo is a very good firewall. I liked it better than any other firewall I tried. If I had not had the associated problems I would still be using it. I think you will be very satisfied with it. C.B. -- It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged and unfortunate among us. Quote
Guest Charles Tomaras Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:gv30v3lgq1nigothgf405psfhg35nspc2t@4ax.com... <span style="color:blue"> > > When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me > that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled > Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.</span> Just out of curiously why have you deemed the Windows firewall in Vista worthless? You say you are not a Vista user. Have you or someone whom you have supported on Vista had some sort of problem or incursion with the Vista firewall? Do you have some dying need to install a third party product to replace anything that comes from Microsoft? Sounds to me like your friend is not the most experienced computer user. My suggestion for security and updates would be to go with something simple and secure like Windows Live One Care. Takes all the work out of staying safe and up to date, especially for folks who don't want to deal with all the hassles of third party solutions. http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/One...pdsch&WT.srch=1 Free 90 day trial. Quote
Guest Straight Talk Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:18:55 +1300, Donchano <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a >firewall. </span> Huh??? - Vista already comes with a decent one. <span style="color:blue"> >I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as >well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.</span> Fine. And now, what are you planning to do in terms on security? <span style="color:blue"> >The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.</span> You should be happy about that. <span style="color:blue"> >When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me >that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled >Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.</span> Calling the windows firewall worthless says more about you than anything else. <span style="color:blue"> >Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer >would be greatly appreciated. </span> Your ignorance makes your idea of even "securing a computer" moot. <span style="color:blue"> >I use WXPpro, so I don't have these problems on my PC.</span> But it doesn't keep you from bashing stuff you don't understand. Get a clue. Quote
Guest Charles Tomaras Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com... <span style="color:blue"> > > Besides, I don't want my friend's computer protected by just a > "decent" firewall, I want it protected by the best freeware firewall > available (according to independent reviews) - and the best is > definitely is not Vista's firewall. > > To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the > past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster and > that I am justified in not trusting Vista's firewall any more than I > trust the operating system itself.</span> Even if all of your firewall effectiveness data is founded, I don't think that computers with decent firewalls are being targeted all that much. The malicious hackers/thieves/spammers out there are looking for NO FIREWALL or for higher value targets. Whatever third party solution you install for your novice friend you will from my experience end up having to support because novices have a tendency to screw stuff up. My suggestion of using One Care is a very effective way of providing fairly automated protection from malicious attacks as well as basic maintenance including functional and security updates, hard drive defragmentation and junk file removal. It's also very good at alerting novices that there is something wrong or in need of attention. The family and acquaintance computers that I've installed it on have been purring along quite nicely with a minimum of "support" from me. It's free to try for 90 days and you just might be surprised at what a nicely integrated low overhead solution it provides. "All things Microsoft" do not suck, and I think One Care has developed quite nicely in the two or so years since they purchased the basic technology that it's based on (can't remember the name of the company now?) Charles Tomaras Seattle, WA Quote
Guest Gordon Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the > past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster</span> Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) and I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful! Quote
Guest Donchano Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> magnanimously proffered: <span style="color:blue"> >"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> >> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the >> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster</span> > >Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) and >I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful! </span> Congratulations! Quote
Guest Gordon Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:umbev3ldm2tjerob91f09bk87pk57inebg@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon" > <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> magnanimously proffered: ><span style="color:green"> >>"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the >>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster</span> >> >>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) >>and >>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!</span> > > Congratulations! ></span> So define "unmitigated disaster". Quote
Guest Donchano Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:01:03 +0100, "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> magnanimously proffered: <span style="color:blue"> >"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >news:umbev3ldm2tjerob91f09bk87pk57inebg@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon" >> <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> magnanimously proffered: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >>>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the >>>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster >>> >>>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) >>>and >>>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!</span> >> >> Congratulations! >></span> > > >So define "unmitigated disaster". </span> Windows Vista. BTW - I didn't come here to argue about whether or not Windows Vista is a POS. That verdict has already been delivered by tens of thousands of dissatisfied users and countless reviews. I simply asked for assistance and got it. Thank you to those who helped. Frankly, I'm not interested in the apologists for or defenders of Vista. IMO, it is the Ford Edsel of operating systems. Thank God some enlightened computer manufacturers still offer customers a choice of OS - as they should. No customer - personal or enterprise - should be dictated to by an OS provider that is "supposed" to be fulfilling the customer's needs, not their own. Shame on Microsoft for imposing Vista on their customers. Their "denial" reminds me of the Cold War Soviet Union and Vista's champions as their "dupes." Quote
Guest Dave Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message news:naeev3poek0gsgbg6djsvt7e2s0ne5nia0@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:01:03 +0100, "Gordon" > <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> magnanimously proffered: ><span style="color:green"> >>"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >>news:umbev3ldm2tjerob91f09bk87pk57inebg@4ax.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon" >>> <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> magnanimously proffered: >>> >>>>"Donchano" <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote in message >>>>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the >>>>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster >>>> >>>>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) >>>>and >>>>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful! >>> >>> Congratulations! >>></span> >> >> >>So define "unmitigated disaster".</span> > > Windows Vista. > > > > > BTW - I didn't come here to argue about whether or not Windows Vista > is a POS. That verdict has already been delivered by tens of thousands > of dissatisfied users and countless reviews. I simply asked for > assistance and got it. Thank you to those who helped. > > Frankly, I'm not interested in the apologists for or defenders of > Vista. IMO, it is the Ford Edsel of operating systems. > > Thank God some enlightened computer manufacturers still offer > customers a choice of OS - as they should. No customer - personal or > enterprise - should be dictated to by an OS provider that is > "supposed" to be fulfilling the customer's needs, not their own. Shame > on Microsoft for imposing Vista on their customers. Their "denial" > reminds me of the Cold War Soviet Union and Vista's champions as their > "dupes." > ></span> I don't know if any of you remember when Bill Gates was pushing windows 98 when it first was about to come out and demonstrated it at a conference and on TV where 100's attended. As soon as he booted his PC up the dam thing crashed and he made a remark, -- well back to the drawing board! I suggest that he and MS do the same with Vista instead of pushing a halfassed version of Vista. Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and coming out with one update after another My 2 cents worth.. Quote
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Gordon wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > > > > So define "unmitigated disaster".</span> "I can't figure out how to configure it." -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot Quote
Guest Charles Tomaras Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Dave" <dave@telnet.com> wrote in message news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... <span style="color:blue"> > Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the > real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing > exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and coming > out with one update after another > My 2 cents worth..</span> Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of software in history. Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted trolling. As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at McDonalds but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I think your path is clear. Go away Dave. Quote
Guest Adam Albright Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:58:14 -0700, "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > >"Dave" <dave@telnet.com> wrote in message >news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... > ><span style="color:green"> >> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the >> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing >> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and coming >> out with one update after another >> My 2 cents worth..</span> > >Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of software >in history.</span> Which resulted in Microsoft dumping a poorly designed, bug riddled, crash prone, very bloated half-ass version on the public just like every other prior version of Windows has been. It's the Microsoft way! Release a buggy version, hope their customers find the bugs they (Microsoft) were too lazy and too stupid to find on their own, release SP1, SP2, etc,, repeat, repeat, repeat until the next "new" version of Windows with a whole new set of bugs plus many of the old ones from the prior versions that never got addressed is released and then the cycle starts all over again. Rubes like Charles claps his hands and actually enjoys the abuse and probably waits in line to buy the new copy of Windows at midnight. <span style="color:blue"> > >Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted trolling. </span> Why don't losers like you pull your stupid heads out of your dumb asses and realize Microsoft NEVER has released a "good" version of Windows and likely never will because of morons like you that accept good enough as good enough. <span style="color:blue"> >As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at McDonalds >but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I think your >path is clear. Go away Dave. </span> Can't handle the truth about Windows I see. Quote
Guest Dave Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message news:mlNJj.104614$Ft5.21398@newsfe15.lga...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Dave" <dave@telnet.com> wrote in message > news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... > ><span style="color:green"> >> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the >> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing >> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and >> coming out with one update after another >> My 2 cents worth..</span> > > Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of > software in history. > > Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted > trolling. As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at > McDonalds but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I > think your path is clear. Go away Dave. ></span> KISS MY ASS Quote
Guest Charles Tomaras Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Dave" <dave@telnet.com> wrote in message news:OoidnRtO8to8IWranZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@comcast.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message > news:mlNJj.104614$Ft5.21398@newsfe15.lga...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Dave" <dave@telnet.com> wrote in message >> news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the >>> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing >>> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and >>> coming out with one update after another >>> My 2 cents worth..</span> >> >> Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of >> software in history. >> >> Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted >> trolling. As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at >> McDonalds but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I >> think your path is clear. Go away Dave. >></span> > KISS MY ASS</span> smooch.... now see ya. Quote
Guest Ed Mullikin Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:eU1bfNzlIHA.5260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Gordon wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> >> >> >> So define "unmitigated disaster".</span> > > > "I can't figure out how to configure it." > > -- > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand > Russell > > The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has > killed a great many philosophers. > ~ Denis Diderot</span> I had three progams I used frequently on XP that I could not use on VISTA and my HP printer would not work causing me to buy a new one. I suppose Vista cost me $300 extra and I do like it nearly as well as XP. Quote
Guest Gordon Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Ed Mullikin" <edmull2@cox.net> wrote in message news:vvQOj.10635$3N1.6931@newsfe17.lga...<span style="color:blue"> ><span style="color:green"> >> ~ Denis Diderot</span> > > I had three progams I used frequently on XP that I could not use on VISTA</span> Do you mean they wouldn't install. or wouldn't run? Did you try installing them in Compatability Mode? <span style="color:blue"> > and my HP printer would not work causing me to buy a new one.</span> Did you look on HP's website for a Vista driver for your printer? My Samsung printer must be nearly ten years old - they produced a Vista driver for it, so I would be VERY surprised that HP did not... I suppose<span style="color:blue"> > Vista cost me $300 extra and I do like it nearly as well as XP.</span> Quote
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