Guest Richard Waldron Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Hi, I have a problem currently with Windows Vista Ultimate(Integrale), this occurred last Friday evening. I was finishing off a word document when suddenly all went black. As an end user I assumed this was a system crash and so rebooted my system, then ran registry repair, then checked for viruses etc with Live OneCare, eventually reloaded Vista all to no avail. Each time I rebooted I was greeted by a black screen after logging in. I called my tech support who could not help but I did manage to gain access to the internet and after a short while found an item entitled Black Screen Death. This reported that all my problems where due to Microsoft thinking I had a non genuine copy of Vista it went on to explain how you could circum-navigate the problem (this I did and even though I have to repeat this process each time I log on I can use Windows normally). I purchased my copy of Vista Ulitimate from a large chain store at the not give away price of over 400 Euros and registered the same online on the day of installation and have been running for sometime with other Microsoft products including Live OneCare. Why then am I suddenly crippled for an entire weekend by Microsoft security and how can I rectify the situation perminently Thank you in advance Quote
Guest Malke Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Richard Waldron wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi, > > I have a problem currently with Windows Vista Ultimate(Integrale), this > occurred last Friday evening. I was finishing off a word document when > suddenly all went black. > As an end user I assumed this was a system crash and so rebooted my > system, then ran registry repair, then checked for viruses etc with Live > OneCare, eventually reloaded Vista all to no avail. Each time I rebooted I > was greeted by a black screen after logging in. > I called my tech support who could not help but I did manage to gain > access to the internet and after a short while found an item entitled > Black Screen Death. This reported that all my problems where due to > Microsoft thinking I had a non genuine copy of Vista it went on to explain > how you could circum-navigate the problem (this I did and even though I > have to repeat this process each time I log on I can use Windows > normally). I purchased my copy of Vista Ulitimate from a large chain store > at the not give away price of over 400 Euros and registered the same > online on the day of installation and have been running for sometime with > other Microsoft products including Live OneCare. > Why then am I suddenly crippled for an entire weekend by Microsoft > security and how can I rectify the situation perminently</span> Your assumption that your black screen comes from Microsoft is questionable. How did you determine this? Only from something you read on the Internet or from a message on your computer? We don't have enough information to give you an accurate answer about the cause. How did you manage to "gain access to the Internet" with the black screen problem? Give some solid details about your computer and its current state. It sounds to me more like a hardware failure but it is impossible to tell from your post. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! Quote
Guest Richard Waldron Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Hi Malke, I checked with my tech support and they confirmed that I had no hardware problems with a diagnostic programme (conflict errors etc). This would also be bourne out by the fact that I circumvented the problem my system was fully functional. When the indicent fist occured I received not message at all, however, when I reinstalled Vista I received a message informing me that Microsoft could not verify my version of Windows automatically (this was noted in the bottom right hand corner of the screen). I then verified windows manually on the internet via micorsoft security centre, rebooted the message did not reappear but the screen remained blank. Even with the Black Screen you can access all programmes, drives etc but through the drop down menus, you simply do not have access to the windows explorer and the article posted on the internet indicated that you could manually access explorer via the same menus? My status remains the same as before, I still cannot simply reboot, I have to repeat the same process each time, which is time consuming qnd annoying. "Malke" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Richard Waldron wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Hi, > > > > I have a problem currently with Windows Vista Ultimate(Integrale), this > > occurred last Friday evening. I was finishing off a word document when > > suddenly all went black. > > As an end user I assumed this was a system crash and so rebooted my > > system, then ran registry repair, then checked for viruses etc with Live > > OneCare, eventually reloaded Vista all to no avail. Each time I rebooted I > > was greeted by a black screen after logging in. > > I called my tech support who could not help but I did manage to gain > > access to the internet and after a short while found an item entitled > > Black Screen Death. This reported that all my problems where due to > > Microsoft thinking I had a non genuine copy of Vista it went on to explain > > how you could circum-navigate the problem (this I did and even though I > > have to repeat this process each time I log on I can use Windows > > normally). I purchased my copy of Vista Ulitimate from a large chain store > > at the not give away price of over 400 Euros and registered the same > > online on the day of installation and have been running for sometime with > > other Microsoft products including Live OneCare. > > Why then am I suddenly crippled for an entire weekend by Microsoft > > security and how can I rectify the situation perminently</span> > > Your assumption that your black screen comes from Microsoft is questionable. > How did you determine this? Only from something you read on the Internet or > from a message on your computer? We don't have enough information to give > you an accurate answer about the cause. How did you manage to "gain access > to the Internet" with the black screen problem? > > Give some solid details about your computer and its current state. It sounds > to me more like a hardware failure but it is impossible to tell from your > post. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > Don't Panic! > </span> Quote
Guest Malke Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Richard Waldron wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I checked with my tech support and they confirmed that I had no hardware > problems with a diagnostic programme (conflict errors etc). This would > also be bourne out by the fact that I circumvented the problem my system > was fully functional.</span> If your tech support people didn't test the hard drive (and other hardware components) with a diagnostic program run outside of Windows, then the hardware testing wasn't adequate. If your tech support people are long-distance, you may wish to take the machine to a local professional. Do not use someone from a BigComputerStore type of place. If your tech support are local and they tested correctly, then the issue is being caused by something else. <span style="color:blue"> > When the indicent fist occured I received not message at all, however, > when I reinstalled Vista I received a message informing me that Microsoft > could not verify my version of Windows automatically (this was noted in > the bottom right hand corner of the screen). I then verified windows > manually on the internet via micorsoft security centre, rebooted the > message did not reappear but the screen remained blank.</span> The fact that you were not able to activate Windows over the Internet is completely understandable and does not mean you have - or were told you have - a pirated copy. It simply means that the key was still in use and all you needed to do was choose to activate by telephone and stay on the line to get a human. You would tell the human that you reinstalled Windows and they would activate Vista. <span style="color:blue"> > Even with the Black Screen you can access all programmes, drives etc but > through the drop down menus, you simply do not have access to the windows > explorer and the article posted on the internet indicated that you could > manually access explorer via the same menus?</span> Something you are running has caused the issue. It could be viruses/malware, it could be a legitimate program, it could be bad drivers for the video card. There is simply no way for me to know without seeing the computer. Here are a few suggestions: A. First, of course you will make sure that your computer is not infected. Even though you did a clean install of Windows, there is always the possibility that you are then reinstalling some program that is malware and thus reinfecting yourself. http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2....emoving_Malware B. If the computer is clean, you will boot into Safe Mode. Do this by repeatedly tapping the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get you to the correct menu to choose Safe Mode. If the problem doesn't occur in Safe Mode, you have something starting with Windows that is causing the issue. It could be a driver (probably the video driver) or some other legitimate program/process. B1. Make sure you are using the correct drivers for your hardware. See this general information about drivers: Never get drivers from Windows Update. Get them from: 1. The device mftr.'s website; OR 2. The motherboard mftr.'s website if hardware is onboard; OR 3. The OEM's website for your specific machine if you have an OEM computer (HP, Dell, Sony, etc.). Read the installation instructions on the website where you get the drivers. To find out what hardware is in your computer: 1. Read any documentation you got when you bought the computer. 2. If the computer is OEM, go to the OEM's website for your specific model machine and look at the specs (you'll be there to get the drivers anyway) 3. Download, install and run a free system inventory program like Belarc Advisor or System Information for Windows. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html - Belarc Advisor http://www.gtopala.com/ - System Information for Windows B2. If all drivers are correct, then do clean-boot troubleshooting to see what is running to cause this issue. How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;929135 The free Autoruns program is very useful for managing your Startup - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx - Autoruns C. You can also see if repairing winlogon helps, although if you are getting this issue on a clean install of Vista, something is damaging winlogon and fixing the underlying cause is preferable. From MVP Rick Rogerts - The shell entry may be damaged in the registry. From Task Manager, click 'new task' on the applications tab. Type regedit and click ok. Agree to the UAC prompt, then expand the branches to reach this one: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon Click on the Winlogon key, then on the right find the "shell" string. Double click it, change the value data to read "explorer.exe" (without the quotes) and click ok. Then close the registry editor and restart the system by entering another new task as 'shutdown /r'. That should give you plenty to work on. Standard disclaimer: I can't see and test your computer myself, so these are just suggestions based on many years of being a professional computer tech; suggestions based on what you've written. You should not take my suggestions as a definitive diagnosis. If you can't do the work yourself (and there is no shame in admitting this isn't your cup of tea), take the machine to a professional computer repair shop (not your local equivalent of BigComputerStore/GeekSquad). If possible, have all your data backed up before you take the machine into a shop. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! Quote
Guest Richard Waldron Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Hi Malke, Have downloaded all software and completed all steps as noted in your post of yesterday, still have exactly the same problem. However, last step as noted by Rick Rogerts regarding registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon I cannot find the last path \WinLogon in the CurrentVersion path? Regards "Malke" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Richard Waldron wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > I checked with my tech support and they confirmed that I had no hardware > > problems with a diagnostic programme (conflict errors etc). This would > > also be bourne out by the fact that I circumvented the problem my system > > was fully functional.</span> > > If your tech support people didn't test the hard drive (and other hardware > components) with a diagnostic program run outside of Windows, then the > hardware testing wasn't adequate. If your tech support people are > long-distance, you may wish to take the machine to a local professional. Do > not use someone from a BigComputerStore type of place. If your tech support > are local and they tested correctly, then the issue is being caused by > something else. > <span style="color:green"> > > When the indicent fist occured I received not message at all, however, > > when I reinstalled Vista I received a message informing me that Microsoft > > could not verify my version of Windows automatically (this was noted in > > the bottom right hand corner of the screen). I then verified windows > > manually on the internet via micorsoft security centre, rebooted the > > message did not reappear but the screen remained blank.</span> > > The fact that you were not able to activate Windows over the Internet is > completely understandable and does not mean you have - or were told you > have - a pirated copy. It simply means that the key was still in use and > all you needed to do was choose to activate by telephone and stay on the > line to get a human. You would tell the human that you reinstalled Windows > and they would activate Vista. > <span style="color:green"> > > Even with the Black Screen you can access all programmes, drives etc but > > through the drop down menus, you simply do not have access to the windows > > explorer and the article posted on the internet indicated that you could > > manually access explorer via the same menus?</span> > > Something you are running has caused the issue. It could be viruses/malware, > it could be a legitimate program, it could be bad drivers for the video > card. There is simply no way for me to know without seeing the computer. > Here are a few suggestions: > > A. First, of course you will make sure that your computer is not infected. > Even though you did a clean install of Windows, there is always the > possibility that you are then reinstalling some program that is malware and > thus reinfecting yourself. > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2....emoving_Malware > > B. If the computer is clean, you will boot into Safe Mode. Do this by > repeatedly tapping the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get > you to the correct menu to choose Safe Mode. If the problem doesn't occur > in Safe Mode, you have something starting with Windows that is causing the > issue. It could be a driver (probably the video driver) or some other > legitimate program/process. > > B1. Make sure you are using the correct drivers for your hardware. See this > general information about drivers: > > Never get drivers from Windows Update. Get them from: > > 1. The device mftr.'s website; OR > 2. The motherboard mftr.'s website if hardware is onboard; OR > 3. The OEM's website for your specific machine if you have an OEM computer > (HP, Dell, Sony, etc.). > > Read the installation instructions on the website where you get the drivers. > > To find out what hardware is in your computer: > > 1. Read any documentation you got when you bought the computer. > 2. If the computer is OEM, go to the OEM's website for your specific model > machine and look at the specs (you'll be there to get the drivers anyway) > 3. Download, install and run a free system inventory program like Belarc > Advisor or System Information for Windows. > > http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html - Belarc Advisor > http://www.gtopala.com/ - System Information for Windows > > B2. If all drivers are correct, then do clean-boot troubleshooting to see > what is running to cause this issue. > > How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista - > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;929135 > > The free Autoruns program is very useful for managing your Startup - > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx - Autoruns > > C. You can also see if repairing winlogon helps, although if you are getting > this issue on a clean install of Vista, something is damaging winlogon and > fixing the underlying cause is preferable. > > From MVP Rick Rogerts - The shell entry may be damaged in the registry. From > Task Manager, click 'new task' on the applications tab. Type regedit and > click ok. Agree to the UAC prompt, then expand the branches to reach this > one: > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon > > Click on the Winlogon key, then on the right find the "shell" string. Double > click it, change the value data to read "explorer.exe" (without the quotes) > and click ok. Then close the registry editor and restart the system by > entering another new task as 'shutdown /r'. > > That should give you plenty to work on. Standard disclaimer: I can't see and > test your computer myself, so these are just suggestions based on many > years of being a professional computer tech; suggestions based on what > you've written. You should not take my suggestions as a definitive > diagnosis. If you can't do the work yourself (and there is no shame in > admitting this isn't your cup of tea), take the machine to a professional > computer repair shop (not your local equivalent of > BigComputerStore/GeekSquad). If possible, have all your data backed up > before you take the machine into a shop. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > Don't Panic! > </span> Quote
Guest Malke Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Richard Waldron wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi Malke, > > Have downloaded all software and completed all steps as noted in your post > of yesterday, still have exactly the same problem. > However, last step as noted by Rick Rogerts regarding registry > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon > > I cannot find the last path WinLogon in the CurrentVersion path?</span> Path? What path? The entry is in the registry. If you don't know what you're looking at, you should stay out of the registry and take the machine to a professional computer repair shop. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! Quote
Guest Richard Waldron Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Hi, All now solved : I ran the regedit.exe from task manager and located the following the registry; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon and then changed the String data Value "Shell" to read Explorer.exe now boots up everytime. Thanks for your help Malke "Malke" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Richard Waldron wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Hi Malke, > > > > Have downloaded all software and completed all steps as noted in your post > > of yesterday, still have exactly the same problem. > > However, last step as noted by Rick Rogerts regarding registry > > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon > > > > I cannot find the last path WinLogon in the CurrentVersion path?</span> > > Path? What path? The entry is in the registry. If you don't know what you're > looking at, you should stay out of the registry and take the machine to a > professional computer repair shop. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > Don't Panic! > </span> Quote
Guest Malke Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Richard Waldron wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi, > > All now solved : > > I ran the regedit.exe from task manager and located the following the > registry; > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsNTCurrentVersionWinlogon > > and then changed the String data Value "Shell" to read Explorer.exe > > now boots up everytime. > > > Thanks for your help Malke > </span> Glad to hear you got it sorted. Thanks for taking the time to post back. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! Quote
Guest Lorraine Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 My name is lorraine and i have been reading posts for the last 4 hrs im tired and just when i was about to give up i came across this post by MALKE i tried ur suggestion about the registry and i just had to come back and say "MALKE, YOU ROCK!!!!!!" i have had my laptop for 2 weeks its brand new and i thought i was doomed lol i'm so very grateful for ur post and i wish u all the best style_emoticons/style_emoticons/style_emoticons/style_emoticons/ xxxx "Malke" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Richard Waldron wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > I checked with my tech support and they confirmed that I had no hardware > > problems with a diagnostic programme (conflict errors etc). This would > > also be bourne out by the fact that I circumvented the problem my system > > was fully functional.</span> > > If your tech support people didn't test the hard drive (and other hardware > components) with a diagnostic program run outside of Windows, then the > hardware testing wasn't adequate. If your tech support people are > long-distance, you may wish to take the machine to a local professional. Do > not use someone from a BigComputerStore type of place. If your tech support > are local and they tested correctly, then the issue is being caused by > something else. > <span style="color:green"> > > When the indicent fist occured I received not message at all, however, > > when I reinstalled Vista I received a message informing me that Microsoft > > could not verify my version of Windows automatically (this was noted in > > the bottom right hand corner of the screen). I then verified windows > > manually on the internet via micorsoft security centre, rebooted the > > message did not reappear but the screen remained blank.</span> > > The fact that you were not able to activate Windows over the Internet is > completely understandable and does not mean you have - or were told you > have - a pirated copy. It simply means that the key was still in use and > all you needed to do was choose to activate by telephone and stay on the > line to get a human. You would tell the human that you reinstalled Windows > and they would activate Vista. > <span style="color:green"> > > Even with the Black Screen you can access all programmes, drives etc but > > through the drop down menus, you simply do not have access to the windows > > explorer and the article posted on the internet indicated that you could > > manually access explorer via the same menus?</span> > > Something you are running has caused the issue. It could be viruses/malware, > it could be a legitimate program, it could be bad drivers for the video > card. There is simply no way for me to know without seeing the computer. > Here are a few suggestions: > > A. First, of course you will make sure that your computer is not infected. > Even though you did a clean install of Windows, there is always the > possibility that you are then reinstalling some program that is malware and > thus reinfecting yourself. > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2....emoving_Malware > > B. If the computer is clean, you will boot into Safe Mode. Do this by > repeatedly tapping the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get > you to the correct menu to choose Safe Mode. If the problem doesn't occur > in Safe Mode, you have something starting with Windows that is causing the > issue. It could be a driver (probably the video driver) or some other > legitimate program/process. > > B1. Make sure you are using the correct drivers for your hardware. See this > general information about drivers: > > Never get drivers from Windows Update. Get them from: > > 1. The device mftr.'s website; OR > 2. The motherboard mftr.'s website if hardware is onboard; OR > 3. The OEM's website for your specific machine if you have an OEM computer > (HP, Dell, Sony, etc.). > > Read the installation instructions on the website where you get the drivers. > > To find out what hardware is in your computer: > > 1. Read any documentation you got when you bought the computer. > 2. If the computer is OEM, go to the OEM's website for your specific model > machine and look at the specs (you'll be there to get the drivers anyway) > 3. Download, install and run a free system inventory program like Belarc > Advisor or System Information for Windows. > > http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html - Belarc Advisor > http://www.gtopala.com/ - System Information for Windows > > B2. If all drivers are correct, then do clean-boot troubleshooting to see > what is running to cause this issue. > > How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista - > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;929135 > > The free Autoruns program is very useful for managing your Startup - > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx - Autoruns > > C. You can also see if repairing winlogon helps, although if you are getting > this issue on a clean install of Vista, something is damaging winlogon and > fixing the underlying cause is preferable. > > From MVP Rick Rogerts - The shell entry may be damaged in the registry. From > Task Manager, click 'new task' on the applications tab. Type regedit and > click ok. Agree to the UAC prompt, then expand the branches to reach this > one: > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon > > Click on the Winlogon key, then on the right find the "shell" string. Double > click it, change the value data to read "explorer.exe" (without the quotes) > and click ok. Then close the registry editor and restart the system by > entering another new task as 'shutdown /r'. > > That should give you plenty to work on. Standard disclaimer: I can't see and > test your computer myself, so these are just suggestions based on many > years of being a professional computer tech; suggestions based on what > you've written. You should not take my suggestions as a definitive > diagnosis. If you can't do the work yourself (and there is no shame in > admitting this isn't your cup of tea), take the machine to a professional > computer repair shop (not your local equivalent of > BigComputerStore/GeekSquad). If possible, have all your data backed up > before you take the machine into a shop. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > Don't Panic! > </span> Quote
Guest Malke Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Lorraine wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > My name is lorraine and i have been reading posts for the last 4 hrs im > tired and just when i was about to give up i came across this post by > MALKE i tried ur suggestion about the registry and i just had to come back > and say "MALKE, YOU ROCK!!!!!!" i have had my laptop for 2 weeks its brand > new and i thought i was doomed lol i'm so very grateful for ur post and i > wish u all the best</span> Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you got things sorted. P.S. - You're usually "doomed" in computing only if you don't back up your data regularly. So if you're not doing that, you should. ;-) Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Quote
Guest SpyCatcher Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 When my system starts or restarts I get a black screen with the mouse cursor visable. The registry edit you suggest is already set as recommended, I still get the balck screen. Any ideas how to fix? Thank you "Lorraine" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > My name is lorraine and i have been reading posts for the last 4 hrs im tired > and just when i was about to give up i came across this post by MALKE i tried > ur suggestion about the registry and i just had to come back and say "MALKE, > YOU ROCK!!!!!!" i have had my laptop for 2 weeks its brand new and i thought > i was doomed lol i'm so very grateful for ur post and i wish u all the best > style_emoticons/style_emoticons/style_emoticons/style_emoticons/ xxxx > > "Malke" wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Richard Waldron wrote: > > <span style="color:darkred"> > > > I checked with my tech support and they confirmed that I had no hardware > > > problems with a diagnostic programme (conflict errors etc). This would > > > also be bourne out by the fact that I circumvented the problem my system > > > was fully functional.</span> > > > > If your tech support people didn't test the hard drive (and other hardware > > components) with a diagnostic program run outside of Windows, then the > > hardware testing wasn't adequate. If your tech support people are > > long-distance, you may wish to take the machine to a local professional. Do > > not use someone from a BigComputerStore type of place. If your tech support > > are local and they tested correctly, then the issue is being caused by > > something else. > > <span style="color:darkred"> > > > When the indicent fist occured I received not message at all, however, > > > when I reinstalled Vista I received a message informing me that Microsoft > > > could not verify my version of Windows automatically (this was noted in > > > the bottom right hand corner of the screen). I then verified windows > > > manually on the internet via micorsoft security centre, rebooted the > > > message did not reappear but the screen remained blank.</span> > > > > The fact that you were not able to activate Windows over the Internet is > > completely understandable and does not mean you have - or were told you > > have - a pirated copy. It simply means that the key was still in use and > > all you needed to do was choose to activate by telephone and stay on the > > line to get a human. You would tell the human that you reinstalled Windows > > and they would activate Vista. > > <span style="color:darkred"> > > > Even with the Black Screen you can access all programmes, drives etc but > > > through the drop down menus, you simply do not have access to the windows > > > explorer and the article posted on the internet indicated that you could > > > manually access explorer via the same menus?</span> > > > > Something you are running has caused the issue. It could be viruses/malware, > > it could be a legitimate program, it could be bad drivers for the video > > card. There is simply no way for me to know without seeing the computer. > > Here are a few suggestions: > > > > A. First, of course you will make sure that your computer is not infected. > > Even though you did a clean install of Windows, there is always the > > possibility that you are then reinstalling some program that is malware and > > thus reinfecting yourself. > > > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2....emoving_Malware > > > > B. If the computer is clean, you will boot into Safe Mode. Do this by > > repeatedly tapping the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get > > you to the correct menu to choose Safe Mode. If the problem doesn't occur > > in Safe Mode, you have something starting with Windows that is causing the > > issue. It could be a driver (probably the video driver) or some other > > legitimate program/process. > > > > B1. Make sure you are using the correct drivers for your hardware. See this > > general information about drivers: > > > > Never get drivers from Windows Update. Get them from: > > > > 1. The device mftr.'s website; OR > > 2. The motherboard mftr.'s website if hardware is onboard; OR > > 3. The OEM's website for your specific machine if you have an OEM computer > > (HP, Dell, Sony, etc.). > > > > Read the installation instructions on the website where you get the drivers. > > > > To find out what hardware is in your computer: > > > > 1. Read any documentation you got when you bought the computer. > > 2. If the computer is OEM, go to the OEM's website for your specific model > > machine and look at the specs (you'll be there to get the drivers anyway) > > 3. Download, install and run a free system inventory program like Belarc > > Advisor or System Information for Windows. > > > > http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html - Belarc Advisor > > http://www.gtopala.com/ - System Information for Windows > > > > B2. If all drivers are correct, then do clean-boot troubleshooting to see > > what is running to cause this issue. > > > > How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista - > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;929135 > > > > The free Autoruns program is very useful for managing your Startup - > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx - Autoruns > > > > C. You can also see if repairing winlogon helps, although if you are getting > > this issue on a clean install of Vista, something is damaging winlogon and > > fixing the underlying cause is preferable. > > > > From MVP Rick Rogerts - The shell entry may be damaged in the registry. From > > Task Manager, click 'new task' on the applications tab. Type regedit and > > click ok. Agree to the UAC prompt, then expand the branches to reach this > > one: > > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon > > > > Click on the Winlogon key, then on the right find the "shell" string. Double > > click it, change the value data to read "explorer.exe" (without the quotes) > > and click ok. Then close the registry editor and restart the system by > > entering another new task as 'shutdown /r'. > > > > That should give you plenty to work on. Standard disclaimer: I can't see and > > test your computer myself, so these are just suggestions based on many > > years of being a professional computer tech; suggestions based on what > > you've written. You should not take my suggestions as a definitive > > diagnosis. If you can't do the work yourself (and there is no shame in > > admitting this isn't your cup of tea), take the machine to a professional > > computer repair shop (not your local equivalent of > > BigComputerStore/GeekSquad). If possible, have all your data backed up > > before you take the machine into a shop. > > > > Malke > > -- > > MS-MVP > > Elephant Boy Computers > > www.elephantboycomputers.com > > Don't Panic! > > </span></span> Quote
Guest shivays Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 Hi all, I have the problem of going screen into black screen means processor, harddrive everything is reading. but screen goes off. anyhelp would be highly appreciated -- shivays ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shivays's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/shivays.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/vista-security/942023.htm http://forums.techarena.in Quote
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