Guest Terry Pinnell Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Why does Spybot report RegistryFix.exe as a threat please? I gather it arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of criticism found from a few minutes googling. But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it? If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat? BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying details of its results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In some other programs I recall being able to read details of the entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed? -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK Quote
Guest jen Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:jfkfv357f7vreo52mku6pb201eo00ckomv@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Why does Spybot report RegistryFix.exe as a threat please? I gather it > arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which > has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of > criticism found from a few minutes googling. > > But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in > contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or > a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it? > > If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat? > > BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying details of its > results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In > some other programs I recall being able to read details of the > entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed?</span> Go here: http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=16 -jen Quote
Guest Sirtokalott Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Spybot reports all attempts to change the registry. It even reports it'self when it makes changes after a scan. Basically if you have done nothing and then the message suddenly appears I would not allow it, however if you have instigated something, e.g. installing a programme and you get the warning then allow it "Terry Pinnell" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Why does Spybot report RegistryFix.exe as a threat please? I gather it > arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which > has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of > criticism found from a few minutes googling. > > But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in > contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or > a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it? > > If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat? > > BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying details of its > results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In > some other programs I recall being able to read details of the > entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed? > > -- > Terry, East Grinstead, UK > </span> Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest jen Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm</span> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr 5 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/ -jen Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> > > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm</span> > > Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr 5 > 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/</span> I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look at dates and threading yourself. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest jen Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm</span> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr >> 5 >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/</span> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look > at dates and threading yourself.</span> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that the poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th. Sheesh! FYI the thread: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca HTH, -jen Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > > says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... > >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm > >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr > >> 5 > >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/</span> > > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look > > at dates and threading yourself.</span> > > Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that the > poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th. > Sheesh! > FYI the thread: > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca > </span> No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest jen Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >> > says... >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, >> >> Apr >> >> 5 >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/ >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should >> > look >> > at dates and threading yourself.</span> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that >> the >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the >> 5th. >> Sheesh! >> FYI the thread:</span></span> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca<span style="color:blue"> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.</span> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly is not Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server ATM. BTW, Google archives is not Google Groups, lol! -jen Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > > says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com... > >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > >> > says... > >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... > >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm > >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, > >> >> Apr > >> >> 5 > >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/ > >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should > >> > look > >> > at dates and threading yourself. > >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that > >> the > >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the > >> 5th. > >> Sheesh! > >> FYI the thread:</span></span> > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca<span style="color:green"> > > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.</span> > > No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by > Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly > is not Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server > ATM. > BTW, Google archives is not Google Groups, lol!</span> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done. If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet server owned by MS. Look up Usenet and learn a little about it. Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it that you want. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest jen Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227d6a8564d57caf989744@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >> > says... >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com... >> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, >> >> > jen@example.com >> >> > says... >> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... >> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm >> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted >> >> >> Sat, >> >> >> Apr >> >> >> 5 >> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum >> >> >> style_emoticons/ >> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you >> >> > should >> >> > look >> >> > at dates and threading yourself. >> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) >> >> that >> >> the >> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the >> >> 5th. >> >> Sheesh! >> >> FYI the thread:</span></span></span> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.</span> >> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by >> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it >> certainly >> is not Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server >> ATM. >> BTW, Google archives is not Google Groups, lol!</span> > No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet > (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done. > If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real > Usenet > client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to > the > Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet > server owned by MS. > Look up Usenet and learn a little about it. > Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet > is > open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it > that you want.</span> I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not style_emoticons/ If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article is being posted from, if you know how, that is style_emoticons/ Microsoft does not peer with any other newsservers, and is not a part of Usenet, peroid. Do your homework... -jen Quote
Guest pcbutts1 [MS MVP] Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Umm Jen, you are arguing with a troll. Be careful he might start stalking you like he does me. -- Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz, Beauregard T. Shagnasty,Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell "jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message news:uB3yHt%23pIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227d6a8564d57caf989744@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> >> In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >> says...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com... >>> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >>> > says... >>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com... >>> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >>> >> > says... >>> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... >>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm >>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, >>> >> >> Apr >>> >> >> 5 >>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/ >>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should >>> >> > look >>> >> > at dates and threading yourself. >>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that >>> >> the >>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the >>> >> 5th. >>> >> Sheesh! >>> >> FYI the thread:</span></span> > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet. >>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by >>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly >>> is not Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server >>> ATM. >>> BTW, Google archives is not Google Groups, lol!</span> >> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet >> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done. >> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet >> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the >> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet >> server owned by MS. >> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it. >> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is >> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it >> that you want.</span> > > I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not style_emoticons/ > If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google > would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including > mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article > is being posted from, if you know how, that is style_emoticons/ Microsoft does not > peer with any other newsservers, and is not a part of Usenet, peroid. > Do your homework... > > -jen > </span> Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 In article <bKPQj.3562$26.1647@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, pcbutts1 @leythosthestalker.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > Umm Jen, you are arguing with a troll. Be careful he might start stalking > you like he does me.</span> Considering you're not an MVP, considering you've posted links to the porn you host on your site to many Usenet groups, considering that none of the MVP's believe you..... This is Usenet, even if you have a Web interface to it. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 "jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message news:erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> >> In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >> says...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com... >>> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >>> > says... >>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... >>> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm >>> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr >>> >> 5 >>> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/ >>> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look >>> > at dates and threading yourself. >>> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that the >>> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th. >>> Sheesh! >>> FYI the thread:</span></span> > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca<span style="color:green"> >> No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.</span> > > No, this is not Usenet.</span> Yes, it is. The NNTP protocol - newsgroups - usenet. It is MS's server, MS's news server (NNTP) <span style="color:blue"> > whom allows archiving by Google and allows other NSP's to carry their > groups. But it certainly is not Usenet...</span> Yes, it is. <span style="color:blue"> > I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server ATM.</span> MS's news server. <span style="color:blue"> > BTW, Google archives is not Google Groups, lol!</span> Google provides a web interface to usenet newsgroups. It is still usenet. Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 "jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message news:uB3yHt%23pIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227d6a8564d57caf989744@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> >> In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >> says...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com... >>> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >>> > says... >>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com... >>> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >>> >> > says... >>> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >>> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com... >>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm >>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, >>> >> >> Apr >>> >> >> 5 >>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum style_emoticons/ >>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should >>> >> > look >>> >> > at dates and threading yourself. >>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, ppl " style_emoticons/ The OP(Original Poster) that >>> >> the >>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the >>> >> 5th. >>> >> Sheesh! >>> >> FYI the thread:</span></span> > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...1e8079d7bb4ecca<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet. >>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by >>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly >>> is not Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server >>> ATM. >>> BTW, Google archives is not Google Groups, lol!</span> >> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet >> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done. >> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet >> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the >> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet >> server owned by MS. >> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it. >> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is >> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it >> that you want.</span> > > I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not style_emoticons/ > If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google > would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including > mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article > is being posted from, if you know how, that is style_emoticons/ Microsoft does not > peer with any other newsservers, and is not a part of Usenet, peroid. > Do your homework...</span> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they do use the NNTP protocol for usenet. Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they > do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.</span> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server can subscribe to them. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but >> they >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.</span> > > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server > can subscribe to them.</span> ....or archive them. In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are broadcast and propagated to usenet at large. So this is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by microsoft by only carrying their groups. Quote
Guest jen Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 (Snipped attribution restored) "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com... "jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message news:uB3yHt%23pIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com says...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> > > I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is > > not style_emoticons/ > > If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then > > Google > > would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few > > servers(including > > mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an > > article > > is being posted from, if you know how, that is style_emoticons/ Microsoft does > > not > > peer with any other newsservers, and is not a part of Usenet, > > peroid. > > Do your homework...<span style="color:darkred"> > > > Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, > > > but they > > > do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.</span></span> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet > server > can subscribe to them.</span> What makes you think I'm a "she"? My nym is not a name... You seem to be very presumptive style_emoticons/ From the "horses mouth": What are the Microsoft newsgroups? "For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public newsgroup hierarchy and made it available to anyone ON the Usenet (my emphasis)". http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...ln%5D;newswhelp Also see here: [FAQ] How to add the microsoft. hierarchy to a news server: Last-modified: 2007/08/02 Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out what your peers think and getting information from people who use the same products and technologies you use. The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on Usenet for a number of years. http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/c...crosoft-faq.txt Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public groups "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Get it yet? I'm not going to waste any more of my time educating you. As I said before, do your homework! -jen Quote
Guest jen Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 "FromTheRafters" <Erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message news:eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> >> In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com >> says...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, >>> but they >>> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.</span> >> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal >> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet >> server >> can subscribe to them.</span> > ...or archive them. > In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used > outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the > statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are > broadcast and propagated to usenet at large. > So this is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's > microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by > microsoft by only carrying their groups.</span> I'm simply using MS's newsserver ATM for their groups. My own newsserver carries all the hierarchies... To be on MS's server for their groups is more desirable to me. -jen(not a name) Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 In article <eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com > > says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but > >> they > >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.</span> > > > > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal > > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server > > can subscribe to them.</span> > > ...or archive them. > > In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used > outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the > statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are > broadcast and propagated to usenet at large. > > So this is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's > microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by > microsoft by only carrying their groups. </span> I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service in the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web interface for it. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their .public </span> Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure, the foundation, the technology that they use to build from. Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to access it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet. Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some limit you monthly byte count, etc.... Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with a web interface to it also. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest jen Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227ec0127ee5fa95989756@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, >> > Erratic@ne.rr.com >> > says... >> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, >> >> but >> >> they >> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet. >> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even >> > personal >> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet >> > server >> > can subscribe to them.</span> >> ...or archive them. >> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used >> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the >> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are >> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large. >> So this is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's >> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by >> microsoft by only carrying their groups.</span> > I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service > in > the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web > interface for it.</span> The NNTP protocal That MS newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I see you still don't get it... Oh well... -jen Quote
Guest jen Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their >> .public </span> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure, > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from. > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to > access > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet. > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some > limit > you monthly byte count, etc.... > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with > a > web interface to it also.</span> You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really... The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I see you still don't get it... Oh well... Do your homewark! -jen Quote
Guest Leythos Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > > says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their > >> .public </span> > > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the > > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure, > > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from. > > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a > > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to > > access > > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet. > > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet > > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some > > limit > > you monthly byte count, etc.... > > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as > > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with > > a > > web interface to it also.</span> > > You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really... > The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I > see you still don't get it... Oh well... > Do your homewark!</span> Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers where private servers allow public connections. Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/ -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest jen Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.227edbf3ec811aed98975a@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <ekZucDMqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com > says...<span style="color:green"> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.227ec0e466ba45d4989757@adfree.usenet.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <#wZ44TKqIHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com >> > says... >> >> Microsoft is not a part of Usenet. They simply make their >> >> .public >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's >> > the >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the >> > infrastructure, >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from. >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have >> > a >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to >> > access >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet. >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every >> > Usenet >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some >> > limit >> > you monthly byte count, etc.... >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use >> > as >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet >> > with >> > a >> > web interface to it also.</span> >> You're the one missing the point style_emoticons/ It's very simple, really... >> The NNTP protocal That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. >> I >> see you still don't get it... Oh well... >> Do your homewark!</span> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers > where private servers allow public connections. > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet: > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/</span> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft does not peer with any other newsservers, therefore msnews.microsoft.com is not a part of Usenet, period. It appears you cannot understand simple logic... Case closed. -jen Quote
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