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Guest torbar
Posted

Evening

 

I have Vista Ultimate with 2 User ids (mine as admin, wife's as user). On

my new PC I installed the ASUS utilities under my id. When I log on with my

id the ASUS utiities execute with no UAC intervention (load at startup).

When my wife logs on (uses account), several ASUS programs (part of aisuite)

start up and require a UAC interaction to approve the execution. The request

displays in the Task Bar. Is there an option where UAC does not request

execution approval under my wife's id?

 

Thanks

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torbar

Guest Julian
Posted

Use the Task Scheduler under her account to run applications (at logon or

whenever you wish) with Elevation - supplying the Admin password at task

creation.

 

And you can do it for your own account to eliminate the one UAC prompt you

receive...

 

HTH

 

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Julian I-Do-Stuff

 

Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com

 

"torbar" <torbar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:58B9C624-631C-424C-8698-25B000896606@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue">

> Evening

>

> I have Vista Ultimate with 2 User ids (mine as admin, wife's as user). On

> my new PC I installed the ASUS utilities under my id. When I log on with

> my

> id the ASUS utiities execute with no UAC intervention (load at startup).

> When my wife logs on (uses account), several ASUS programs (part of

> aisuite)

> start up and require a UAC interaction to approve the execution. The

> request

> displays in the Task Bar. Is there an option where UAC does not request

> execution approval under my wife's id?

>

> Thanks

> --

> torbar</span>

Guest t-4-2
Posted

torbar;681798 Wrote: <span style="color:blue">

> Evening

>

> I have Vista Ultimate with 2 User ids (mine as admin, wife's as user).

> On

> my new PC I installed the ASUS utilities under my id. When I log on

> with my

> id the ASUS utiities execute with no UAC intervention (load at

> startup).

> When my wife logs on (uses account), several ASUS programs (part of

> aisuite)

> start up and require a UAC interaction to approve the execution. The

> request

> displays in the Task Bar. Is there an option where UAC does not request

> execution approval under my wife's id?

>

> Thanks

> --

> torbar</span>

Hello torbar,

Any objection on changing your wife's account to admin account as well

?

Why make life anymore complicated than it is now ?

 

 

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t-4-2

  • 3 weeks later...
Guest torbar
Posted

Reply to both Julian and t-4-2 Sorry for the late response to both of you.

 

Julian

 

I researched your suggestion, attempted configurations and have these

questions.

 

1. What happens to the current execution that are part of startup on both ids?

2. How do I determine if there are any parameters that are associated with

the startup (i.e., in the registry)? I assume that I would need to associate

those parameters with the task scheduler.

3. What is the effect of the change from a startup to a task schedule for my

wife's id to the same programs under my id?

 

 

t-4-2

I thought about your suggestion and it is a excellent idea. At this time I

decided to not change the account type for these reasons:

 

1. I would like to keep it as a user account to limit the problems that she

could encounter.

2. I would like to learn the differences between the user and administrator

account types and their ramifications as I implement different software and

we use the system in different patterns.

 

 

Comment/Discovery

1. I executed MSCONFIG andf disabled the 3 ASUS progams and determined that

with the 3 programs disabled, they were disabled for both users.

2. I discovered that I had to log off at least 1 user id in order for the

MSCONFIG change to cause a restart to take effect.

3. I am not sure what happened but it looked like the system did not

complete the restart under this scenario: msconfig, disable 3 programs, close

msconfig since it would not accept the restart option, switch to wife's id,

logoff her id, restart system from logon window (user ids displayed) and my

id still logged on. System appeared to be hung

4. Powered off/on system; logged onto wife's id; all 3 ASUS programs

dispayed the user account control requirement. Normally there is just 1 of

the 3 programs displayed.

5. I have not figured out the pattern for which program of the 3 display the

UAC request.

 

 

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torbar

 

 

"t-4-2" wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

>

> torbar;681798 Wrote: <span style="color:green">

> > Evening

> >

> > I have Vista Ultimate with 2 User ids (mine as admin, wife's as user).

> > On

> > my new PC I installed the ASUS utilities under my id. When I log on

> > with my

> > id the ASUS utiities execute with no UAC intervention (load at

> > startup).

> > When my wife logs on (uses account), several ASUS programs (part of

> > aisuite)

> > start up and require a UAC interaction to approve the execution. The

> > request

> > displays in the Task Bar. Is there an option where UAC does not request

> > execution approval under my wife's id?

> >

> > Thanks

> > --

> > torbar</span>

> Hello torbar,

> Any objection on changing your wife's account to admin account as well

> ?

> Why make life anymore complicated than it is now ?

>

>

> --

> t-4-2

> </span>

Guest t-4-2
Posted

torbar;701830 Wrote: <span style="color:blue">

> Reply to both Julian and t-4-2 Sorry for the late response to both of

> you.

>

> Julian

>

> I researched your suggestion, attempted configurations and have these

> questions.

>

> 1. What happens to the current execution that are part of startup on

> both ids?

> 2. How do I determine if there are any parameters that are associated

> with

> the startup (i.e., in the registry)? I assume that I would need to

> associate

> those parameters with the task scheduler.

> 3. What is the effect of the change from a startup to a task schedule

> for my

> wife's id to the same programs under my id?

>

>

> t-4-2

> I thought about your suggestion and it is a excellent idea. At this

> time I

> decided to not change the account type for these reasons:

>

> 1. I would like to keep it as a user account to limit the problems that

> she

> could encounter.

> 2. I would like to learn the differences between the user and

> administrator

> account types and their ramifications as I implement different software

> and

> we use the system in different patterns.

>

>

> Comment/Discovery

> 1. I executed MSCONFIG andf disabled the 3 ASUS progams and determined

> that

> with the 3 programs disabled, they were disabled for both users.

> 2. I discovered that I had to log off at least 1 user id in order for

> the

> MSCONFIG change to cause a restart to take effect.

> 3. I am not sure what happened but it looked like the system did not

> complete the restart under this scenario: msconfig, disable 3 programs,

> close

> msconfig since it would not accept the restart option, switch to wife's

> id,

> logoff her id, restart system from logon window (user ids displayed)

> and my

> id still logged on. System appeared to be hung

> 4. Powered off/on system; logged onto wife's id; all 3 ASUS programs

> dispayed the user account control requirement. Normally there is just 1

> of

> the 3 programs displayed.

> 5. I have not figured out the pattern for which program of the 3

> display the

> UAC request.

>

>

> --

> torbar

>

>

> "t-4-2" wrote:<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

> > > >

> > >

> > > torbar;681798 Wrote:

> > > Hello torbar,

> > > Any objection on changing your wife's account to admin account as</span>

> > well<span style="color:darkred">

> > > ?

> > > Why make life anymore complicated than it is now ?

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > t-4-2

> > > > > </span></span></span>

Hello torbar,

Just in case you have not read that. This is an answer to your reason

#2.

 

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t-4-2

Guest t-4-2
Posted

t-4-2;701858 Wrote: <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

> > torbar;701830 Wrote:

> > Reply to both Julian and t-4-2 Sorry for the late response to both of

> > you.

> >

> > Julian

> >

> > I researched your suggestion, attempted configurations and have these

> > questions.

> >

> > 1. What happens to the current execution that are part of startup on

> > both ids?

> > 2. How do I determine if there are any parameters that are associated

> > with

> > the startup (i.e., in the registry)? I assume that I would need to

> > associate

> > those parameters with the task scheduler.

> > 3. What is the effect of the change from a startup to a task schedule

> > for my

> > wife's id to the same programs under my id?

> >

> >

> > t-4-2

> > I thought about your suggestion and it is a excellent idea. At this

> > time I

> > decided to not change the account type for these reasons:

> >

> > 1. I would like to keep it as a user account to limit the problems that

> > she

> > could encounter.

> > 2. I would like to learn the differences between the user and

> > administrator

> > account types and their ramifications as I implement different software

> > and

> > we use the system in different patterns.

> >

> >

> > Comment/Discovery

> > 1. I executed MSCONFIG andf disabled the 3 ASUS progams and determined

> > that

> > with the 3 programs disabled, they were disabled for both users.

> > 2. I discovered that I had to log off at least 1 user id in order for

> > the

> > MSCONFIG change to cause a restart to take effect.

> > 3. I am not sure what happened but it looked like the system did not

> > complete the restart under this scenario: msconfig, disable 3 programs,

> > close

> > msconfig since it would not accept the restart option, switch to wife's

> > id,

> > logoff her id, restart system from logon window (user ids displayed)

> > and my

> > id still logged on. System appeared to be hung

> > 4. Powered off/on system; logged onto wife's id; all 3 ASUS programs

> > dispayed the user account control requirement. Normally there is just 1

> > of

> > the 3 programs displayed.

> > 5. I have not figured out the pattern for which program of the 3

> > display the

> > UAC request.

> >

> >

> > --

> > torbar

> >

> >

> > "t-4-2" wrote:<span style="color:darkred">

> > > > </span></span>

> Hello torbar,

> Just in case you have not read that. This is an answer to your reason

> #2.

>

> 3703 3704

> Which I believe should also answer your reason #1. She just have to

> put up with it as long as she is in user account. Unless of course you

> decide to disable UAC in which case you'll have 6 million people

> telling you not to, another 6 million telling you to go ahead.</span>

I was told you will not be able to see the links without being told to

join something. If that is the case, don't touch them.

The long and short of the whole difference between user acct. and admin

acct. is :

User account can NOT install/uninstall any programs, can NOT change

settings, and in some cases requires admin. password to activate a

program.

Administrator account can do ALMOST all of the above.

 

 

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t-4-2

Guest t-4-2
Posted

I was told that people cannot see what's in my links without being told

to join somethig. If that's the case, don't bother.

The long and short of the difference between user acct. and admin acct.

is that user account can NOT install or uninstall any programs, can Not

change settings, and in some cases requires admin password to continue.

The administrator account can do ALMOST all of the above.

Hope that will clear any uncertaintities.

 

 

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t-4-2

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