Guest Doo Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 Unlike a lot of people I actually don't mind the UAC running in the background. BUT... When I boot up my machine I get UAC prompting me to allow Explorer to run and the controls for my graphics card. Is there a way to permanently allow these programs to run? In other words, can you set up allowances for individual programs? Cheers, Ian -- Doo -asus t3-p5g065- -asus drw-1814blt- -intel q6600 geforce 8600gt 4gb 800mhz ram (2x2gb) maxtor sata 500gb udma 300- Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Doo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Unlike a lot of people I actually don't mind the UAC running in the > background. > BUT... > When I boot up my machine I get UAC prompting me to allow Explorer > to run and the controls for my graphics card. > Is there a way to permanently allow these programs to run? In other > words, can you set up allowances for individual programs?</span> Not really, but there is a workaround utilising the Application Compatibility Toolkit that may work for you. How to disable the UAC prompt for a certain application only: http://blog.tiensivu.com/aaron/archives/14...ation-only.html Download App Compatibility Toolkit 5.0: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en Charlie42 Quote
Guest Robert Moir Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Doo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:07ae32b7be74101cbd9e9bdae4f21c39@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > Unlike a lot of people I actually don't mind the UAC running in the > background. > BUT... > When I boot up my machine I get UAC prompting me to allow Explorer to > run and the controls for my graphics card. > Is there a way to permanently allow these programs to run? In other > words, can you set up allowances for individual programs?</span> Well in the first case this wouldn't happen by default, which suggetss that what is actually being objected to is something that has 'extended' explorer. I'd suggest treating the disease rather than the symptom by tracking down what exactly is happening and either stopping it from running or obtaining an update. Actually, I'd suggest much the same approach for the graphics card stuff. Have you by chance done an upgrade from Windows XP? I found similar errors on a test machine where the old XP drivers for an ATI graphics card still had a driver component listed to start that wasn't required any more. I'd suspect something like that because while all the graphics card makers have had their fair share of stunning incompetence, they're all on the ball enough to notice something like that and nail it down with their updated drivers by now. Quote
Guest Jesper Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 These prompts are actually caused by a flawed graphics card driver suite. It launches some program on startup (logon actually) which requires elevated permissions. This should not happen. The best way to handle this is to see if the manufacturer of the graphics card has a Vista compatible driver. This one, by definition, is not, since the definition of Vista compliant is that it does not launch elevated applications on logon. You can use the Application Compatibility Toolkit, as Charlie suggested, to change the application to not elevate. However, if the application actually needs elevated permissions, doing so will break it. The toolkit cannot configure an application to launch elevated without a prompt. If you cannot find a Vista compliant driver for it you can get rid of the prompt, if you are willing to lose the functionality of the application. More than likely, it just puts a tray icon or something on your computer, and it is not critical to the functioning of the video card. In addition, if that application is so poorly written that it thinks it needs to run elevated, it is likely to create a channel that can be exploited by malware. To disable the application, do the following: 1. Click the Window button 2. In the search box, type msconfig and hit enter 3. Accept the elevation prompt 4. Go to the Startup tab 5. Find the Startup Item corresponding to the application. Not knowing what video card you have I don't know what it might be called. It should have the video card manufacturer in the "Manufacturer" column though. 6. Uncheck its box 7. Click OK 8. Reboot and log on. If the prompt went away you disabled the right application. If not, repeat the steps and try a different application. --- Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047010155...rotectyourwi-20 "Robert Moir" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > > "Doo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message > news:07ae32b7be74101cbd9e9bdae4f21c39@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:green"> > > > > Unlike a lot of people I actually don't mind the UAC running in the > > background. > > BUT... > > When I boot up my machine I get UAC prompting me to allow Explorer to > > run and the controls for my graphics card. > > Is there a way to permanently allow these programs to run? In other > > words, can you set up allowances for individual programs?</span> > > Well in the first case this wouldn't happen by default, which suggetss that > what is actually being objected to is something that has 'extended' > explorer. I'd suggest treating the disease rather than the symptom by > tracking down what exactly is happening and either stopping it from running > or obtaining an update. > > Actually, I'd suggest much the same approach for the graphics card stuff. > Have you by chance done an upgrade from Windows XP? I found similar errors > on a test machine where the old XP drivers for an ATI graphics card still > had a driver component listed to start that wasn't required any more. I'd > suspect something like that because while all the graphics card makers have > had their fair share of stunning incompetence, they're all on the ball > enough to notice something like that and nail it down with their updated > drivers by now. > > > </span> Quote
Guest Robert Moir Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Jesper" <Jesper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:25231B96-DA3E-4DE8-9554-B6907E364863@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > These prompts are actually caused by a flawed graphics card driver suite. > It > launches some program on startup (logon actually) which requires elevated > permissions. This should not happen.</span> Yep. I've seen this exact same issue with an upgrade XP --> Vista recently on a testbed. I just can't remember the name of the damn app that was causing it - in this case upgrading to vista compatible drivers didn't tidy this app out, it was still left behind and running, which I thought was nice of ATI. Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I just can't remember the name of the damn app that was causing it - in > this case upgrading to vista compatible drivers didn't tidy this app out, > it > was still left behind and running, which I thought was nice of ATI.</span> Was it ATI External Event? In early versions of the Catalyst software, this service had a habit of crashing on Vista computers, and sometimes cause further problems. Charlie42 Quote
Guest Robert Moir Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message news:eDAT%23y$oIHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> I just can't remember the name of the damn app that was causing it - in >> this case upgrading to vista compatible drivers didn't tidy this app out, >> it >> was still left behind and running, which I thought was nice of ATI.</span> > > Was it ATI External Event? In early versions of the Catalyst software, > this service had a habit of crashing on Vista computers, and sometimes > cause further problems.</span> Oooh no. It was something that exists and is used in the XP drivers but not in the Vista ones. Also, I went from latest XP drivers to latest vista. I'd know it if I saw it again but I kinda forgot about it when it stopped being a problem. Quote
Guest Doo Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 i went through "msconfig" and turned of the graphics' control panel. I'll need to look further into the cause of the conflict. I've never had XP on this machine as it was a fresh build. I did however use the disc which came with the graphics card to install the drivers needed to run it. I've since updated many times from the nvidia website. graphics card is NVIDIA 8600GT. As for the other, The source file requesting permission is; C:\Windows\SysWOW64\updater\explorer Anybody got any ideas why this prompt is coming up? It didn't always. I'm not even sure whether or not it was appearing before I updated to SP1. -- Doo -asus t3-p5g065- -asus drw-1814blt- -intel q6600 geforce 8600gt 4gb 800mhz ram (2x2gb) maxtor sata 500gb udma 300- Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 "Doo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > As for the other, The source file requesting permission is; > C:WindowsSysWOW64updaterexplorer > Anybody got any ideas why this prompt is coming up? It didn't always. > I'm not even sure whether or not it was appearing before I updated to > SP1.</span> Do you have 32- or 64-bit Vista? Afaik, this folder only exists on 64-bit systems, where it stores 32-bit files for compatibility. The problem could be related to this. Charlie42 Quote
Guest Doo Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Vista 64-bit. Spec of PC is in my sig. Cheers, Ian -- Doo -asus t3-p5g065- -asus drw-1814blt- -intel q6600 geforce 8600gt 4gb 800mhz ram (2x2gb) maxtor sata 500gb udma 300- Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 "Doo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Vista 64-bit. > Spec of PC is in my sig.</span> Try to identify what purpose this 'explorer' file serves. Right-click it, and take a look at the properties details. I am pretty certain this is a 32-bit app not compliant with UAC. Hopefully you can disable it like Jesper wrote, without loosing vital functionality. If you can find out what it is, you can also see if there is a 64-bit Vista compatible version at the developer's support pages. Charlie42 Quote
Guest Doo Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Charlie42;690777 Wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Try to identify what purpose this 'explorer' file serves. Right-click > it, and take a look at the properties details. I am pretty certain this > is a > 32-bit app not compliant with UAC.</span> At work at the moment so can't look at the file just now. From what I've read on the net it seems it would be a 32-bit internet explorer...but what I don't understand is how it got there. -- Doo -asus t3-p5g065- -asus drw-1814blt- -intel q6600 geforce 8600gt 4gb 800mhz ram (2x2gb) maxtor sata 500gb udma 300- Quote
Guest Doo Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 In Task Manager, the file is call explorer.exe 32. Do other people have this file? Is it located in the same location as mine? The other thing i noticed was that iexplorer.exe 32 is there also. I assume the "32" means 32-bit, I thought IE would have been 64-bit as that's what installed with the OS. Cheers, Ian -- Doo -asus t3-p5g065- -asus drw-1814blt- -intel q6600 geforce 8600gt 4gb 800mhz ram (2x2gb) maxtor sata 500gb udma 300- Quote
Guest Doo Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Anybody got any ideas? -- Doo -asus t3-p5g065- -asus drw-1814blt- -intel q6600 geforce 8600gt 4gb 800mhz ram (2x2gb) maxtor sata 500gb udma 300- Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 "Doo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> In Task Manager, the file is call explorer.exe 32. >> Do other people have this file? Is it located in the same location >> as mine? >> >> The other thing i noticed was that iexplorer.exe 32 is there also. >> I assume the "32" means 32-bit, I thought IE would have been >> 64-bit as that's what installed with the OS.</span> > > Anybody got any ideas? </span> I apologise for the late reply. Both explorer.exe and iexplore.exe are legitimate processes located in %windir% and %programfiles%\Internet Explorer respectively. Needless to say, they are both Vista compatible. With this and the name of your file in mind (iexplorer.exe instead of iexplore.exe), I am starting to wondering if this may be malware. Both adwares and trojans are known to hide themselves under this name. Take a look at Malke's general advice in the discussion below, and consider starting a new thread in the current newsgroup for greater exposure. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communiti...ng=en&cr=US&p=1 Charlie42 Quote
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