Guest AlanP Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss of security. I think UAC has some real merits if it could learn what a user of a PC wants to do on a regular basis. I think everyone, except MVPs supporting the Microsoft community, agree it's very annoying to have the interrupt on running non Microsoft products. If UAC were modified to interrupt the first time a specific user runs a program (direct or by association) and during that interrupt ask for permission to switch the interrupt off for that specific program version, then not so many of us would scrap (turn off permanently) the UAC prompt. AlanP Quote
Guest Dustin Harper Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Although UAC is annoying, and in my opinion not ready for prime time (as you say, has potential if it knows what the user wants), it was able to stop all the root kits from installing when these guys were testing anti-virus products. So, it's not all a loss. I do think that UAC needs a lot of work to be less intrusive, as well as be application specific and "learn" what is good and what is not. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...tests_find.html -- Dustin Harper dharper@vistarip.com http://www.vistarip.com | Vista Resource & Information Page Was this helpful? Then click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales/help/...teAPostAsAnswer "AlanP" <alanpereira@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23uAWF9NwIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss > of security. > > I think UAC has some real merits if it could learn what a user of a PC > wants > to do on a regular basis. I think everyone, except MVPs supporting the > Microsoft community, agree it's very annoying to have the interrupt on > running non Microsoft products. If UAC were modified to interrupt the > first > time a specific user runs a program (direct or by association) and during > that interrupt ask for permission to switch the interrupt off for that > specific program version, then not so many of us would scrap (turn off > permanently) the UAC prompt. > AlanP > </span> Quote
Guest Bender Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 A lot of older programs do not have to be run as administrator, however they were written that way anyway. The programmer should have designed the application in the first place to be able to run as a standard user. UAC will help older programs to be updated to run under a standard user because of complaints by users. Complain to the makers of your applications so they do the right thing and release an update. Its not because the application is not a Microsoft product, its because the maker of the application didn't follow guidelines available years ago or do not want to bother updating their applications to follow the guidelines on security. "AlanP" <alanpereira@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:#uAWF9NwIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss > of security. > > I think UAC has some real merits if it could learn what a user of a PC > wants > to do on a regular basis. I think everyone, except MVPs supporting the > Microsoft community, agree it's very annoying to have the interrupt on > running non Microsoft products. If UAC were modified to interrupt the > first > time a specific user runs a program (direct or by association) and during > that interrupt ask for permission to switch the interrupt off for that > specific program version, then not so many of us would scrap (turn off > permanently) the UAC prompt. > AlanP > </span> Quote
Guest AlanP Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Most of the non Microsoft programs written before Vista was launched have this problem with UAC, the software world at large will not go back and rewrite their programs to suit Vista, they will only do this when they upgrade their own software. If people are happy with their existing programs they will not pay for upgrades just to overcome UAC - hence my opening remarks. "Bender" <imnotgivingmynametoa@machine.net> wrote in message news:uiWY0nXwIHA.5124@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... A lot of older programs do not have to be run as administrator, however they were written that way anyway. The programmer should have designed the application in the first place to be able to run as a standard user. UAC will help older programs to be updated to run under a standard user because of complaints by users. Complain to the makers of your applications so they do the right thing and release an update. Its not because the application is not a Microsoft product, its because the maker of the application didn't follow guidelines available years ago or do not want to bother updating their applications to follow the guidelines on security. "AlanP" <alanpereira@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:#uAWF9NwIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss > of security. > > I think UAC has some real merits if it could learn what a user of a PC > wants > to do on a regular basis. I think everyone, except MVPs supporting the > Microsoft community, agree it's very annoying to have the interrupt on > running non Microsoft products. If UAC were modified to interrupt the > first > time a specific user runs a program (direct or by association) and during > that interrupt ask for permission to switch the interrupt off for that > specific program version, then not so many of us would scrap (turn off > permanently) the UAC prompt. > AlanP > </span> Quote
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